Hell

Started by altered, February 23, 2015, 11:51:55 PM

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altered

http://www.theingersolltimes.com/hell/

Is it necessary that Heaven should borrow its light from the glare of Hell?

Infinite punishment is infinite cruelty, endless injustice, immortal meanness. To worship an eternal gaoler hardens, debases, and pollutes even the vilest soul. While there is one sad and breaking heart in the universe, no good being can be perfectly happy.

Against the heartlessness of the Christian religion every grand and tender soul should enter solemn protest. The God of Hell should be held in loathing, contempt and scorn. A God who threatens eternal pain should be hated, not loved – cursed, not worshiped. A heaven presided over by such a God must be below the lowest hell. I want no part in any heaven in which the saved, the ransomed and redeemed will drown with shouts of joy the cries and sobs of hell – in which happiness will forget misery, where the tears of the lost only increase laughter and double bliss.

The idea of hell was born of ignorance, brutality, fear cowardice, and revenge. This idea testifies that our remote ancestors were the lowest beasts. Only from dens, lairs, and caves, only from mouths filled with cruel fangs, only from hearts of fear and hatred, only from the conscience of hunger and lust, only from the lowest and most debased could come this cruel, heartless and bestial of all dogmas.

I would not for my life destroy one star of human hope, but I want it so that when a poor woman rocks the cradle and sings a lullaby to the dimpled darling, she will not be compelled to believe that ninety-nine chances in a hundred she is raising kindling wood for hell.

I would not for anything blot out the faintest star that shines in the horizon of human despair, nor in the sky of human hope; but I will do what I can to get that infinite shadow out of the heart of man.
''The Jews are born with raging fanaticism in their hearts, just as the Bretons and the Germans are born with blond hair. I would not be in the least bit surprised if these people would not some day become deadly to the human race."
Voltaire

daniel5606

Possibly you should do some research on conscience and free will. 
God does not put people in hell . People choose it.

altered

I don't know a single person who say "hey I want to burn forever". That's just nuts. I don't believe in hell but according to your book your god created hell so...

''The Jews are born with raging fanaticism in their hearts, just as the Bretons and the Germans are born with blond hair. I would not be in the least bit surprised if these people would not some day become deadly to the human race."
Voltaire

altered

daniel5606...you must have felt it was really important to create an account and leave that reply. Let me ask you this. Would you put a blow torch for a single second to your child's face simply for not loving you because your child realizes that you are an evil psychopath? If so, I do not want to engage in any further conversation with you. Your god is just that, a complete psychopath and hell alone should be enough to prove that your god (imaginary) is.

http://www.evilbible.com/

http://www.nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/DarkBibleContents.htm
''The Jews are born with raging fanaticism in their hearts, just as the Bretons and the Germans are born with blond hair. I would not be in the least bit surprised if these people would not some day become deadly to the human race."
Voltaire

Christopher Marlowe

God does not desire that anyone go to hell.  People choose hell because they love sin more than they love God. Essentially the choices people make in life determines their eternal destiny. God is all good, and there is no evil in heaven. God will not become evil and he cannot join himself to it. Evil is forever separate from God.

Your argument attempts to say that God is evil because he won't join himself to evil. That doesn't make any sense.

We must be purified of all evil (purgatory) before we can enter heaven. But heaven is for eternity. God is all-knowing, and he knows what we desire and what is best for us. But our sin nature leads us to choose things that are evil. We must learn to overcome our sinful natures and learn to love God more. Human pride makes people think that they know more than God, or that they can judge God, or that their foolish argument can explain why God is somehow evil. 
And, as their wealth increaseth, so inclose
    Infinite riches in a little room

altered

#5
"God does not desire that anyone go to hell."

Than why did he create it? After creating it did he say it was good?

So hell sits well with you. Are you really going to feel great in your happy place if your family members and friends are burning for eternity?

Man created hell. Hell is not in harmony with a god of love.
''The Jews are born with raging fanaticism in their hearts, just as the Bretons and the Germans are born with blond hair. I would not be in the least bit surprised if these people would not some day become deadly to the human race."
Voltaire