TiU Radio 22st Aug 2014 - Foley Hoax Explained

[Ognir]

TiU Radio
theinfounderground.com
Host Ognir
Recorded 22nd Aug 2014


Topic The Foley Hoax Explained
Audio http://theinfounderground.com/archives/2014/2014.8.22/TiU.Radio.22.Aug.2014%20-%20The%20Foley%20Beheading%20Hoax.mp3

My video from yesterday on utube

direct link here http://theinfounderground.com/archives/2014/hollywoodisis/isis-made-in-hollywood-ognir.avi


FULL VERSION ON Liveleaks
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bc1_1408481278



What's so odd?
1) In video, Foley wearing very loose jumpsuit, afterwards it is a tight fit
2) Foley wearing long sleeves, afterwards short sleeves
3) At least 3 different cameras used, video was sliced and diced
4) Foley speech doesn't make sense in part
5) Afterwards, arm looks plastic
6) So called killer never used ALLAH once, that's odd
7) No Allah is great before chop chop
last images just when he goes with the knife, he bursts blood bag on Foley head
9) The knife is fake
10) ELA analysis show lots of evidence of Photoshopping
11) Recorded interviews with Foley. completely different voice
12) How many Foley characters do we have

Supporting videos

Different Actor/voice facial features

Analysis of the video

Other radio show

Thanks Dick Eastman

[maz]

My first question is why Foley was wearing orange outfit that is reminiscent Guantanamo detainee uniforms. Wikipedia has this to say about the outfits, which is interesting.

Detainees held at the US-run Guantanamo Bay detention camp are typically issued one of two uniforms, either a white jumpsuit if the prisoner has been labelled "compliant", or an orange jumpsuit if the detainee has been labelled "non-compliant".[1][2][3]

So why would Islamic militants be running around Iraq with what seems to be US military issued outfits and making their victims wear them as they are being beheaded? We could say that it is because these Al Qaeda-style groups are government ops to some exent, but what is the message that they are sending to the average teevee watcher with the color orange?

James Foley script same as Nick Berg script. Boots on the ground in Iraq propaganda.

[MikeWB]

I'm not buying any of this

[Ognir]

What Mike, that the video is real, I don't understand what you are saying

[MikeWB]

What Mike, that the video is real, I don't understand what you are saying

I don't think it's fake at all. All these points about how it's fake don't make much sense to me. Fake knife? Length of robe? Fake blood? It's all very flimsy evidence and doesn't prove much at all IMO.

This is approaching that shapeshifting video stuff on YT.

It might be fake, but the evidence just isn't there.

It's not like those ISIS fuckers haven't chopped hundreds of heads off on Liveleak... and it's obvious that hundreds of British muslim extremists are now in ISIS.

So I don't really the point of faking anything. They just chopped the guy's head off... like they did to hundreds upon hundreds of others.

[Ognir]

It's not like those ISIS fuckers haven't chopped hundreds of heads off on Liveleak... and it's obvious that hundreds of British muslim extremists are now in ISIS.

How are all those nice jewish boys doing now back already in the US, after killing tons of arabs?

Tell me Mike which group worries you the most?

Why don't ISIS attack Israel?

[yankeedoodle]

The supposedly super-sophisticated media-savvy politically-astute ISIS group have been slaughtering for months and months, and nobody has been bothering them, but, suddenly...OOPS...they slip up and somehow decide to slaughter - or, pretend to slaughter? - an American, just as the jews embark on another round of slaughter.  The first time, of course, the jew media had MH17 to distract people, and now they have Jim Foley, and, surely, the jew-media will soon be calling for a stop - yes, a STOP - to the killing of Palestinian children.  But, of course, they will, instead, be calling for the killing of Palestinian FETUSES.   

Thursday's attack, on a day when a total of 26 people were reported killed in Gaza, came a day after the Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, said Israel's offensive may be an extended operation. 

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/08/israel-vows-continue-bombing-gaza-201482154350149949.html

[MikeWB]

It's not like those ISIS fuckers haven't chopped hundreds of heads off on Liveleak... and it's obvious that hundreds of British muslim extremists are now in ISIS.

How are all those nice jewish boys doing now back already in the US, after killing tons of arabs?

Tell me Mike which group worries you the most?

Why don't ISIS attack Israel?

The group that worries me the most are AIPAC and their minions because they have trillions of dollars and have a near total control of US media and finances.

Second group that worries me the most are Islamic fundamentalist fanatics. Most of them are savages (in a true sense of the word). They're the scum of the earth. They're worse than jеwiѕh fanatics (even though jewsih fanatics are pretty fucking bad as well).

ISIS has their hands full at the moment with Shia/Iraq, Assad and Kurds (who are aided by US special forces and US Air Force). Attacking Israel at this point would be idiotic. Israel won't go away so they can wait. Also, if you take a look at the map, you can see that the border area between Israel and Syria, beside Golan Heights, is controlled by Assad. So ISIS doesn't have a direct line to Israel.

One common trend that I see on almost all anti-zionist forums is the belief that Israel is bad and Islam is good because they fight Israel. I think both are bad for Christians. I don't like either.

[Ognir]

The group that worries me the most are AIPAC and their minions

[rmstock]

In view of the timing of this beheading, where amongst others i.e.
the UK Column tacitly mention the Foley beheading as a Saddam Hussein
execution video new style  (including the latest Hollywood rendering
technology), it can be concluded that it is nothing but a lightning rod
diversion for the most disconcerting news of August 20 : Rumors go that
in London the investigations of the MH17 black boxes have been completed,
and what do you think? It's getting archived and labeled linea rectum as
state secrets. Also the mentioning of that very fact is getting
silenced. What happened earlier was that on August 8 The Netherlands,
Belgium, Australia and the Ukraine signed a so-called "Non-Disclosure
Agreement" concerning MH17 [1][2][3][4]:

  "Holland, Belgium, Australia & Ukraine signed a "Non-Disclosure
   Agreement" 10 days ago [Friday Aug 8, 2014] that prevents any of
   them from disclosing the results of the MH17 investigation and
   gives any one of them arbitrary veto power over disclosure which is
   binding on the other signatories. It's still fuzzy about Malaysia;
   at first Malaysia "categorically refused to sign", then it might
   have signed in a hush-hush manner. No official confirmation from
   Kuala Lumpur.
   ---Mark Sleboda " [1]

A day before the NDA signing the following had been reported by the
Malaysian Transport Minister [7] :


(A Malaysian expert (left) examines a black box belonging to Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 during
its handover from pro-Russian separatists, in Donetsk July 22, 2014. ― Reuters pic)

  "KUALA LUMPUR, Aug 7 — A preliminary report on the "black boxes"
   from Flight MH17 that could reveal vital clues on how the plane
   crashed and killed 298 people may be ready by next week, said
   Transport Minister Datuk Seri Liow Tiong Lai today.
   [ ... ]"

So it seems the Malaysians did retrieve their own Black Box for a
analysis on Flight MH17. So what happened also on the day of the
staged beheading ? It was made public that on Friday 22, the 20 dead
Malasian victims will return to Putrajaya Malasia [8] :

  "PUTRAJAYA, Aug 20 — The government has called for a moment of
   silence on Friday when the remains of 20 passengers on board the
   ill-fated Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 arrive home.
   [ ... ]"

The next day after the beheading, Thurday 21 aug 2014, the Dutch
right-wing Liberal party VVD in the city of Utrecht, suggested that the
name of Schiphol airport should be changed [5], which is highly
interesting might Amsterdam Airport be charged with legal claims in
the near future. I sent in the following comment in Dutch :

   Gisteren is in London het onderzoek naar de zwarte dozen van de
   MH17 afgerond, en wat dacht U, het gaat linea rectum het archief in
   en wordt staatsgeheim. Dit nadat op 8 aug Nederland, België,
   Australie en de Oekraïne een z.g. "Non-Disclosure Agreement"
   ondertekenden wat het recht ontneemt om over het MH17 onderzoek te
   publiceren en veto recht geeft over publicaties welke bindend zijn
   voor de andere ondergetekenden. Vandaag komt er een suggestie om de
   naam van Schiphol te veranderen, het vliegveld vanwaar MH17 opsteeg
   richting Kuala Lumpur.

But the moderator of the Telegraaf denied my comment :

  "Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 17:16:49 +0200
   From: Mijn Telegraaf <noreply@telegraaf.nl>
   Message-Id: <E1XKU6b-0003Ry-TO@comm-app1.telegraaf.net>
   To: stock@stokkie.net
   Subject: Uw reactie op 2 VVD Domstad pleit
   Beste lezer,

   U heeft gereageerd op een artikel op De Telegraaf. Ons moderatingteam
   heeft uw reactie beoordeeld en niet vrijgegeven voor publicatie op De
   Telegraaf.

   Met vriendelijke groeten,

   Het moderatingteam van De Telegraaf."

   PS. Dit is een automatisch gegenereerd bericht."

A day before the beheading on Facebook some very sturdy censureship was
applied to web-pages of Dutch people who created their own study and
analysis of what happened with Flight MH17 [6]. Poof and all of your
work on MH17 is gone, because apparently this Zuckerberg suck-puppet is
not in control of his own con -- which is Facebook Corp. Inc.

Robert
PS.
[1] MH17: Explaining the silence
   Tuesday, 19 August 2014
   http://robinwestenra.blogspot.nl/2014/08/mh17-explaining-silence.html

[2] Ukraine: MH17 und Omerta – Kronzeuge packt über "libysche" Sniper aus
   Posted by Maria Lourdes - 20/08/2014
   http://lupocattivoblog.com/2014/08/20/ukraine-mh17-und-omerta-kronzeuge-packt-uber-libysche-sniper-aus/

[3] MH17: Waarom Obama en de media muisstil zijn..?
   19 augustus 2014 Door GuidoJ.
   http://www.wanttoknow.nl/hoofdartikelen/mh17-waarom-obama-en-de-media-muisstil-zijn/

[4] 'Officieel onderzoek naar MH17 gaat in doofpot.'
   20 augustus 2014 om 16:47
   http://joostniemoller.nl/2014/08/officieel-onderzoek-naar-mh17-gaat-in-doofpot/

[5] 'Schiphol moet naam veranderen'
    VVD Domstad pleit voor vliegveld 'Amsterdam-Utrecht Airport Schiphol'
   by Mike Muller, Thu 21 aug 2014, 12:56 | 553 reacties
   http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/22990680/___Utrecht_moet_bij_Schiphol_Airport___.html

[6] Facebook verwijdert MH17 berichten (video)
   Dinsdag, 19 augustus 2014 08:10
   http://www.niburu.co/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8256:facebook-verwijdert-mh17-berichten-video&catid=22:internet&Itemid=35

[7] Putrajaya hopeful early report on MH17 black boxes ready by next week
    Malaysia, The Malay Mail Online
   BY BOO SU-LYNAugust 7, 2014  UPDATED: August 07, 2014 04:21 pm
   http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/article/putrajaya-hopeful-early-report-on-mh17-black-boxes-ready-by-next-week

[8] Putrajaya calls for moment of silence on Friday as remains of MH17
    victims return home
    Malaysia, The Malay Mail Online
   BY JOSEPH SIPALANAugust 20, 2014UPDATED: August 20, 2014 03:50 pm
   http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/article/putrajaya-calls-for-moment-of-silence-on-friday-as-remains-of-mh17-victims
--
Robert M. Stockmann - RHCE
Network Engineer - UNIX/Linux Specialist
crashrecovery.org  stock@stokkie.net

[yankeedoodle]

Amazing, isn't it?  MH370 goes down the memory hole, and now MH17, as well.

Remember the fucking daily ping ping ping stories about MH370?  Now nothing. 

Zio-criminals had a change of mind. 

They stole MH370 and were going to false-flag Iran to start a war with Iran, and they used the ping ping ping stories as tension-builders to maximize the effect of the big boom they were planning.  But, for some reason - BRICS, secret deal with Iran (perhaps Iran saw MH370 as a gun to their head), recognition of Khazar roots in Europe, who knows - the zio-criminals decided to false-flag Russia, instead of Iran. 

Problem:  MH370 is in Indian Ocean - Diego Garcia, or thereabouts - and no believable explanation for MH370 ending up in Europe. 
Solution:  Simple.  Use another plane, and, in particular, another Malaysian plane, because 1) they hate anti-zionist Malaysia, and 2) because using a Malaysian plane provides continuity with original plan, and, 3) of course, just for laughs, just to show what they can do, leaving people saying "Oh no, not another Malaysian plane.  How can that be?  What are the odds?  Hmm...."

[Ognir]

mh370 what?
WTF

[sullivan]

One common trend that I see on almost all anti-zionist forums is the belief that Israel is bad and Islam is good because they fight Israel. I think both are bad for Christians. I don't like either.

I'm not enamoured with any of the three as I perceive them all as being bad for the rest of us. However, the perception that Islam is a religion full of crazies is about as accurate as believing Christianity to be full of crazies based on the behaviour of a few Christian fundamentalists. All these religions have their crazy elements. Only Judaism has a doctrine of contempt for anyone who is not in their fold.

[yankeedoodle]

Truer words were never spoken.  Here's a quote from a crazy-arsed crusading fucking Christian cop in Ferguson, Missouri, USA.

"I personally believe in Jesus Christ as my lord savior, but I'm also a killer. I've killed a lot. And if I need to, I'll kill a whole bunch more. If you don't want to get killed, don't show up in front of me, it's that simple," Page says in an hour-long presentation, which also includes incendiary comments on minority groups, women, liberals and politicians.

http://rt.com/usa/182284-police-ferguson-insult-protesters/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

[Ognir]

[Ognir]

Come on Mike, still not buying it?


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/journalists/bill-gardner/11054488/Foley-murder-video-may-have-been-staged.html

[rmstock]

Australia bans reporting of multi-nation corruption case involving Malaysia, Indonesia and Vietnam
http://wikileaks.org/aus-suppression-order/
"Today, 29 July 2014, WikiLeaks releases an unprecedented Australian censorship order concerning a multi-million dollar corruption case explicitly naming the current and past heads of state of Indonesia, Malaysia and Vietnam, their relatives and other senior officials. The super-injunction invokes "national security" grounds to prevent reporting about the case, by anyone, in order to "prevent damage to Australia's international relations". The court-issued gag order follows the secret 19 June 2014 indictment of seven senior executives from subsidiaries of Australia's central bank, the Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA). The case concerns allegations of multi-million dollar inducements made by agents of the RBA subsidiaries Securency and Note Printing Australia in order to secure contracts for the supply of Australian-style polymer bank notes to the governments of Malaysia, Indonesia, Vietnam and other countries. [ ... ]"


  IN THE SUPREME COURT OF VICTORIA AT MELBOURNE
  CRIMINAL DIVISION

                                         S CR 2013: 0173, 0174, 0175, 0215
                             S CR 2014: 0047, 0048, 0049, 0058, 0079, 0080

  BETWEEN:

  THE QUEEN

  -and-

  BARRY THOMAS BRADY & ORS

                         GENERAL FORM OF ORDER

  JUDGE:                The Honourable Justice Hollingworth
  DATE MADE:            19 June 2014
  ORIGINATING PROCESS:  Indictment
  HOW OBTAINED:         Oral application, following the giving of notice
                        under s 10 of the Open Courts Act 2013 (Vic)
  ATTENDANCE:           Dr S Danaghue QC and Mr J Forsaith for the Commonwealth
                        of Australia (instructed by the Department of Foreign
                        Affairs and Trade)
                        Mr J Forsaith for the Commissioner of the Australian
                                Federal Police
                        Mr N Robinson QC and Mr K Armstrong for the
                                Commonwealth Director of Public Prosecutions
                        Mr M Cahill for Barry Thomas Brady
                        Mr C Mandy for Peter Sinclair Hutchinson
                        Mr C Thomson for John Leckenby
                        Mr P Tehan QC for Steven Kim Wong
                        Mr P Higham for Christian Boillot and Clifford John
                                Gerathy
                        Ms M Fox for Myles Andrew Curtis



  THE COURT ORDERS THAT:

     1. Subject to further order, there be no disclosure, by publication or
        otherwise, of any information (whether in electronic or paper form)
        derived from or prepared for the purposes of these proceedings
        (including the terms of these orders, and the affidavit of Gillian
        Elizabeth Bird affirmed on 12 June 2014) that reveals, implies,
        suggests or alleges that any person to whom this order applies:

            * received or attempted to receive a bribe or improper payment;
            * acquiesced in or was wilfully blind as to any person receiving
              or attempting to receive a bribe or improper payment; or
            * was the intended or proposed recipient of a bribe or improper
              payment.

     2. Subject to further order, order 1 applies to the following persons:

            * any current or former Prime Minister of Malaysia (including
              refereces to 'PM');
            * any current or former Deputy Prime Minister of Malaysia
              (including references to 'DPM');
            * any current or former Finance Minister of Malaysia (including
              references to 'FM');
            * Mohammad Najib Abdul Razak, currently Prime Minister (since 2009)
              and Finance Minister (since 2008) of Malaysia;
            * Abdullah Ahmad Badawi (also known as Pak Lah), a former Prime
              Minister (2003 - 2009) and Finance Minister (2003 - 2008) of
              Malaysia;
            * Puan Noni (also knows as Ms/Madame Noni, or Nonni), a
              sister-in-law of Abdullah Ahmad Badawi;
            * Mahathir Mohamed, a former Prime Minister (1981 - 2003) and
              Finance Minister (2001 - 2003) of Malaysia;
            * Daim Zainuddin, a former Finance Minister of Malaysia
              (1984 - 1991; 1999 - 2001);
            * Rafidah Aziz, a former Trade Minister of Malaysia (1987 - 2008);
            * Hamid Albar, a former Minister for Foreign Affairs (1999 - 2008)
              and Minister of Home Affairs (2008 - 2009) of Malaysia;
            * Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono (also known as SBY), currently
              President of Indonesia (since 2004);
            * Megawati Sukarnoputri (also known as Mega), a former President
              of Indonesia (2001 - 2004) and current leader of the PDI-P
              political party;
            * Laksamana Sukardi, a former Indonesian minister (2001 - 2004; in
              Megawati Sukarnoputri's goverment);
            * Truong Tan San, currently President of Vietnam (since 2011);
            * Nguyen Tan Dung, currently Prime Minister of Vietnam (since 2006);
            * Le Duc Thuy, a Former Chairman of the National Financial
              Supervisory Committee (2007 - 2011) and a former Governor of
              the State Bank of Vietnam (1999 - 2007); and
            * Nong Duc Manh, a former General Secretary of the Communist Party
              of Vietnam (2001 - 2011).

     3. Subject to further order, order 1 does not prevent:

            * disclosures to and among Commonwealth officers (as defined by
              s 3 of Crimes Act 1914 (Cth)) or international investigators,
              international prosecuting authorities, and other like
              international entities;
            * provision by the Court to registered media organisations, under
              cover of a notice referring to the existence of these orders, of
              transcript and exhibits (which, for the avoidance of doubt, must
              then be treated in accordance with order 1 above);
            * provision of material by the Commonwealth Director of Public
              Prosecutions to Note Printing Australia Pty Ltd and its legal
              representatives, provided any such material is provided together
              with a copy of these orders.

     4. The prohibition on publication in order 1 applies throughout Australia.
     5. The purpose of these orders is to prevent damage to Australia's
        international relations that may be caused by the publication of
        material that may damage the reputations of specified individuals who
        are not the subject of charges in these proceedings.
     6. These orders are made on the grounds that they are:

            * necessary to prevent a real and substantial risk of prejudice to
              the proper administration of justice that cannot be prevented by
              other reasonably available means; and
            * necessary to prevent prejudice to the interests of the
              Commonwealth in relation to national security.

     7. These orders operate for a period of 5 years from the date of these
        orders, unless sooner revoked.
     8. The affidavit of Gillian Elizabeth Bird affirmed on 12 June 2014 be
        sealed in an envelope marked "Not to be opened without an order of the
        Court", and not be opened without order of the Court.
     9. There be liberty to apply.



  DATE AUTHENTICATED: 19 June 2014

                                         [ Signature of ]
                                         The Honourable Justice Hollingworth


Please note that the  downing of the Malaysian Boeing 777, Flight MH17 , occurred on June 17, 2014
and that a Boeing 777 contains multiple black box recorders, at least four, which are all logging
the same content.
Correcttion : Malaysian Flight MH17 went down on 17 July 2014, but Malaysian Flight MH 317 disappeared
before  June 17 on March 8, 2014.

[Ognir]

I had forgotten that myself and Mike went at it

I wonder what he thinks now young Mike WB
I called it correctly last August

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-29/hackers-claim-john-mccain-knew-isis-execution-videos-were-staged

[Ognir]