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[Michael K.]

"So I'm all like, 'fuck human rights', you know?"
http://observer.com/2015/01/borscht-belt-will-israel-spurn-america-for-russia/

Borscht Belt: Will Israel Spurn America for Russia?

By Lincoln Mitchell | 01/22/15 10:32am

FOR MOST OF LAST YEAR, THE WEST STRUGGLED TO find an appropriate response to Russia's incursions into Crimea and eastern and southern Ukraine. Many European and North American governments strongly condemned Russia and its president, Vladimir Putin, but Israel has been noticeably silent.

In the past, Israel has been similarly mum on Russian aggression—or worse. In 2008, when the Russia-Georgia war began, Israel cut its previously substantial military support for Georgia and withdrew its military advisors.

Why has Israel declined to slap Russia? Because the Jewish state may someday need Russia as a powerful ally if relations with the U.S. wither—something that's not an immediate risk but not necessarily unthinkable .

Any responsible Israeli leader must at least explore the unimaginable, especially with younger Americans viewing Israel quite differently from older Americans.

Those who see themselves as Democrats are less likely than Republicans to be positively predisposed to Israel. During last summer's war in Gaza, 45 percent of Democrats called Israel's actions justified versus 73 percent of Republicans, according to a CNN poll. If this trend continues and Israel policy becomes a genuinely partisan issue, the future of the Israel-U.S. relationship will be in grave danger.

Some Middle East experts say it's nosediving already, including Martin Indyk, a former U.S. ambassador to Israel. "The U.S.-Israel relationship is critical, is essential to Israel's survival. And the relationship is in trouble," he said in a recent speech.

t is, of course, a very big step from declining popular support for Israel to abolishing or even substantially reducing U.S. assistance to Israel. Nonetheless, this is clearly the goal of at least some Americans who oppose Israel. Interestingly, there are also some supporters of Israel who have called for ending U.S. assistance to the Jewish state.

If that happened, Israel would do what it feels is necessary to survive, including finding a new patron. And among the powerful countries that would be very happy to assume that role, Russia is in many ways the most appealing.

India and China are also possibilities, but less likely ones. India might be drawn to Israel, but India's enormous Muslim population could be a dealbreaker. A resource-hungry China is unlikely to get any closer to Israel because it could jeopardize Beijing's relationship with Israel's oil-rich foes.

Russia, however, is uniquely positioned to be a strong partner for Israel. Given Russia's enormous wealth of natural resources including minerals and fossil fuels, there's a much weaker demand in Russia for Arab oil. Because of that, a close relationship with Israel would be less damaging for Russia than for China.

Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, Israel has become home to more than 1 million Jews from Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Georgia and the 11 other states that were once part of the Soviet Union. This has created a climate of strong cultural and linguistic ties between Israel and the region, particularly Russia.

For Russia, a close relationship with Israel would be a boon. Israel is still the most stable, well-functioning and militarily powerful country in a region that is extremely important to Russia. The Israeli economy that has grown in recent years due in part to its burgeoning tech sector and would be an excellent partner for a Russia that is increasingly cut off economically from the West

But the real reasons why Russia would benefit from strong ties with Israel are political.

If Russia could legitimately present itself as being on the side of Israel and against jihadist terror in the Middle East, it would be much more difficult for American presidents to pass sanctions against Russia or try to bring its neighbors into NATO against Moscow's will if the American people, even if only a sizable minority of them, viewed Russia as a reliable friend of the Jewish state.

The benefits to Israel are more complicated. On the one hand, a strong tie with Russia would provide Israel with comparable security guarantees as the U.S., but less diplomatic support. Russia, particularly if it supported Israel, would have very little sway internationally, except insofar as Russia has a permanent seat on the UN Security Council and could veto anti-Israel resolutions there.

In Russia, Israel would embrace an ally that cares almost nothing about human rights and has committed extraordinary acts of violence on its own people in Chechnya and elsewhere. Accordingly, Russia would be much less likely to pressure Israel to reach a peaceful solution with the Palestinians or show any restraint at all when violence flares up between Israel and the Palestinians.

This would be good for hawkish elements within Israel, but would be a bad development for human rights in the region as well as for any hope for achieving peace between Israel and its neighbors, or for finding a solution to tension between Israel and the Palestinians. A more aggressive Israeli approach to the Palestinians, would, of course, draw a more violent response from the Palestinians and their patrons, thus deepening the cycles of violence and conflict that have been prevalent in the region since before the founding of the state of Israel.

The relationship between the U.S. and Israel has not deteriorated to the point that Jerusalem needs to cut a deal with Moscow now. However, the curve in this regard is clearly bending in that direction and it is not hard to imagine the bilateral relationship turning over the next five to 10 years.

Consider how unlikely a treaty between Israel and Egypt looked in 1975 or how impossible Barack Obama's new Cuba policy looked a decade ago. In international politics, alliances only last as long as they benefit the states involved; and for the U.S. and Israel, more people are questioning those benefits than at any time in the past half-century or more.

The emergence of a Moscow-Jerusalem axis would dramatically remake the politics of the Middle East, most likely increasing violence. This is not good for the U.S., and not an ideal scenario for Israel either.

The only real winner would be Russia.

[yankeedoodle]

BULL-FUCKING-SHIT.  Relentless relentless RELENTLESS fucking Rooskie Rooskie Rooskie ROOSKIE ROOSKIE ROOSKIE ROOSKIE ROOSKIE...ahh...puke

So, the US God-damned well better stay enslaved  to the fucking jews, or...guess what...that's right...maybe the Rooskies will get LUCKY, and get their special brand of misery: false-flags, deception, bankruptcy, death and wars, faggotry, degeneracy, etc. etc.

Let the Rooskies have them.  If the Rooskies are such a God-damned fucking threat, wouldn't you want - repeat, WANT - to inflict them with the fucking jews?  Talk about a VIRUS. 

[Michael K.]

Don't you see that it's all been decided already?  I got a million more of these Jewish articles, and they all started being published less than a year ago.  They wouldnt dare let the cat out of the bag too early, but now is right on time.  The Jews milked the West dry while they built their FrankenChrist monster in Russia with Western capital and purloined technology.  And now that they have no more use for us, and we are collectively waking up to the threat they pose, they are transitioning to their final solution to the White problem.  They don't need us.

Perhaps you resent being awoken from your opium dream of a happy future with "Christian" Russia leading the world, but I am obliged to tell you that your house is on fire.  Russia is already rife with, how you Americans say, "false-flags, deception, bankruptcy, death and wars, faggotry, degeneracy, etc. etc". You have to do mental contortions to overlook such realities and to continue believing what their lips are saying.  Jews really are masterful at telling people what they want to hear, while doing exactly what they want.

[yankeedoodle]

they are transitioning to their final solution   

Been saying that for some time in multiple posts, of course.  Haven't you been reading?

How does warning of the jews' plot against us get twisted in your mind into bashing Putin?  Hmm....  Of course the jews are stoking the fight, and they appreciate your help.

The more Americans respect Putin, the less likelihood of the war that the jews want, so it is necessary for them to continually bash Putin...and, again, the jews appreciate your help.

Pointless to, and won't, argue incessantly about Putin.  So fucking what if, as a leader of a country, he is photographed with jews and the jew flag.  That's what politicians, and even their wives, do - they meet with people and get themselves photographed.   Jimmy Carter's wife, Rosalyn, was photographed with John Wayne Gayce.  Yasser Arafat was photographed with Menachem Begin.

You don't fucking know what Putin thinks.  One thing is for God-damned sure, Putin would not allow himself to be marionetted into the position of being shown to the entire world saluting the jew flag amidst the pageantry of the Kremlin, as George W. Bush did amidst the pageantry of the White House on 12/11/01, three months after 9/11, and the day after the first lighting of a menorrah in the White House.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6ebD7wBW2Y&feature=youtu.be



Hanukkah in the White House 2001
http://www.bushcenter.org/blog/2013/11/26/hanukkah-white-house-2001

[Michael K.]

Putin dessrves to be be bashed.  I am amazed at how you have already been defeated by that Jew without a shot fired.  You are like that slave dancing in his chains.  Putin IS the final solution, not to the Jew problem, but to their Goy problem.  Putin is a monster of kosher making, the Jewish Soviet Union never fell, the NKVD/KGB/FSB is running the whole show.  You have to be complicit in your own destruction not to recognize these facts.

War is going to happen whether I bash Putin or not.  The Jews are steering the US into this confrontation, not because they oppose Putin, but in order to hand him the pretext to launch a first strike, in an ironic reversal of fortune.  The preemptive war doctrine is neoconservative, hence Jewish.  The Jewish art of war is apparently too subtle for you to know about, but I will continue to try to alert you.  And you will continue to justify cucking your own country, race and whatever else.

[yankeedoodle]

That's fucking right...the jews are setting it all up so that, when everything goes boom, and then, when the dust settles, Putin is in charge.  No, not some fucking jew, such as Netanyahu, in Israhell, but Putin in Moscow.

How fucking stupid.  Annihilation of the goy, so that a goy puppet - Putin - remains, instead of a jew finally being in charge of the world.  And, nobody cares if you have some fucking disinfo document that insinuates that Putin is a jew.

[Michael K.]

What about the part where Israels cheif rabbis blessed Putin as their leader last year? "King of the world" were their precise words.  I suppose that you consider that a common courtesy in Israel.

[yankeedoodle]

So fucking what?  Sounds like the jews are pandering to Putin.  Perhaps they are goading him into believing it, and acting recklessly.  Of course, they can change their mind, and, of course, if something happens to the "King of the World," well...guess what...there's a new "King of the World," and, might that be Netanyahu?

Where's the photograph of Putin wearing the crown? 

But, of course you're right that the jews are manipulating - or, trying to manipulate -everything, and, as the strength to resist the manipulation seems as of now lacking in the US, the only true hope is that, somewhere inside Putin, there is the strength to resist the manipulation.

Somewhere somebody recently posted that shit from Churchill about Russia being a riddle wrapped in a mystery wrapped in an enigma...blah blah blah. 

Well, if that is so, the only hope is that Putin has a mind of his own, and will betray the jews who are trying to manipulate him.

Go ahead, bash away.  Just make sure you don't bash Netanyahu.

[Michael K.]

Bashing  Netanyahu is preaching to the choir here.

[yankeedoodle]

May the choir only get bigger and bigger and louder and louder, and extend and resonate around the world, so that Netanyahu is NEVER the "King of the World."

And, may the refrain be "Netanyahu did 911, Netanyahu did 911."