San Bernardino shooting: Bang Bang...again, and again, and again....

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yankeedoodle

Breaking: mass shooting, San Bernardino, plus "training exercise"
by Jon Rappoport
December 2, 2015

KTLA reports---here's a key quote:

"The call first came in at 10:59 a.m. of multiple shots fired from the area of 1365 S. Waterman Ave., San Bernardino Police Department Lt. Richard Lawhead said. The department's SWAT team was training nearby and was suited, 'ready to roll' and responded rapidly, Lawhead said."

---Yet another mass shooting where, by chance, a training exercise was going on during or prior to the event.

San Bernardino, east of Los Angeles.  Reports state several shooters in a cluster of three office buildings that employ 600 people, 20 victims down, and shooters apparently at large.

Here is a recent article I wrote about mass shootings paralleling training exercises:
https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2015/11/21/training-exercises-dovetail-with-mass-shootings/


MikeWB

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015/12/02/multiple-victims-reported-shot-in-san-bernardino/

14 Dead, 14 More Wounded In San Bernardino; As Many As 3 Gunmen Believed To Have Fled Scene

SAN BERNARDINO (CBSLA.com) — Fourteen people were confirmed killed and 14 more wounded in a mass shooting at a San Bernardino community social services building.

"We do have some preliminary numbers of upwards of 14 people that are dead and upwards of 14 people that are injured," said Chief Jarrod Burguan of San Bernardino Police.

The shooting was first reported at about 10:59 a.m. at the Inland Regional Center, 1365 South Waterman Avenue. The gunfire erupted in a conference room being rented by an outside group, according to Maybeth Fields of the Inland Regional Center. She said she was not aware of which outside group, but another worker told reporters he believed the group was a San Bernardino County public agency.

Authorities were still clearing the "massive facility" as of 2:15 p.m., Burguan said.

He added it's believed the suspects have fled, possibly in a dark-colored SUV.

San Bernardino police Sgt. Vicki Cervantes said that there are believed to be multiple shooters wearing military-style gear.

While no motive for the shooting was immediately known, FBI Asst. Director David Bowdich told reporters, "I will tell you right now, we do not know if this is a terrorist incident."

People waiting to be reunited with loved ones who were at or working in the Inland Regional Center should go to the Hernandez Center at 3rd St. and Sierra Way, where police will meet with them.

Patients have been taken to several local hospitals, including Arrowhead Regional Medical Center, St. Bernardine Medical Center and Loma Linda University Medical Center. Uninjured workers were shuttled to a church in Colton.

Hundreds of people with their hands raised were seen by Chopper 9 being evacuated from the building. Many were escorted to the San Bernardino Public Golf Course across the street.

IMG_1029 IMG_1031CBS2/KCAL9's Crystal Cruz said she spoke to a man who said he received several texts from his daughter Holly, who was inside the building when the shooting began.

The first text read: "Dad shooting at my work, shot people in office. Waiting for cops to catch him. Pray for us."

The father told Cruz he texted back to his daughter, "Hide find a good spot hide now."

Holly texted back: "I am but we are locked in an office. Cops SWAT helicopter, everything here."

Another woman who identified herself as Monique said she received a text from her sister Gina, who was inside the building, that read: "There's a shoot out at my work I'm scared."

Law enforcement sources said a suspicious package had also been discovered and that a bomb squad is in the process of trying to neutralize the device, according to CBS News.

Paul Lacroix, whose son Garrett works inside the Inland Resource Center, said he told his son to hunker down, turn his cell phone off and to not make any noise.

"It's just not good," Lacroix said of the situation. "It's something that we're starting to learn to have to live with. We just have to learn to take better stands for what we're doing."

On speaker phone, Garrett Lacroix said that people inside the building were shook up and were being given water bottles.

"The fire alarm went off, but then someone started shouting in the halls there was a possible bomb so we were all told to get back into our office. Eventually we saw officers with vests and automatic weapons so we retreated to our room," Garrett Lacroix said.

Garrett said a message over the intercom later instructed them to exit with their hands in the air and nothing in them.

Mark Scroggins was waiting outside the building, waiting for word of his daughter, who works inside.

"This is crazy. There's too many shootings. too many bad things going on out here. You hear about it, but this is insane. This is crazy," he said.

Authorities advised all motorists to stay away from the area.

The Inland Regional Center is a sprawling three-story center serving people with developmental disabilities in San Bernardino and Riverside counties. The non-profit private agency, whose site crashed due to traffic due to news of the shooting, employs nearly 700 people and serves more than 30,000 residents with developmental disabilities for ages ranging from infants to seniors 60 years and older, according to the center's Facebook page.

The agency had just celebrated with a holiday party the day before.

Several Other local and federal agencies were also at the scene to assist San Bernardino Police in the incident.

One woman at the scene said she was not waiting on anyone inside the Inland Regional Center, but on her children at the nearby Norton Space and Aeronautics Academy, a charter school.

"I actually have kids at the school on the next block, and they're on lockdown," she said. "We can't get them, they can't come out. I tried going over there, but they won't let me go."

San Bernardino City Unified School District officials said all its schools and offices were placed on full lockdown, but that each campus was scheduled to dismiss student on time.

"As far as people in the area, we're doing everything we can to keep this area safe. We are addressing other facilities in the area we think may be similar, but we don't have any other information or any credible threats to any other facilities at this point," Burguan said. "Obviously we are all on a heightened sense of alert. We would ask the public that they be on a heightened sense of alert, that they're watching out for those things and if they come across information, contact us and let us investigate."

This is a breaking news report. More information will be added as it comes in.
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MikeWB

San Bernardino shooting live updates: At least 14 dead, officials say; police searching for attackers
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December 2, 2015, 5:36 p.m.
What we know
Around 11 a.m., at least one shooter opened fire in San Bernardino at the Inland Regional Center, a facility that serves people with developmental disabilities.
Preliminary numbers: At least 14 people were killed and at least 14 wounded, the San Bernardino police chief said. Police said there were one to three assailants, who were heavily armed and possibly wearing body armor. No one is in custody. Police are searching for a black Yukon SUV that drove away from the shooting.
Investigators are not sure whether the shooting was an act of terrorism, an FBI official said.

Full story: San Bernardino shooting

Times reporters are providing updates from the scene.
2:36 P.M.
Video: Police storm building as shooting unfolds


At first, Dorothy Vong assumed it was a drill – just like all the others at her work. At the Inland Regional Center, where she's a nurse, the staff works with clients and parents of clients who are sometimes angry. They have active-shooter drills every month or so.

"Drill started," she texted her husband, Mark, around 11 a.m. She walked to a window nearby and filmed a video as law enforcement sprinted toward the building.

"Oh, that is scary," a voice says calmly in the background.

"They're all geared up!" someone else says. "Rifles and everything!" In the background, someone laughs – they still didn't know. Then the reality set in.

She texted her husband again: "Well it's real."


And then a few minutes later, another message: "We're in a locked office." Mark Vong said he told his wife to stay calm and not to panic.

"They train for this," he said, standing outside police barricade Wednesday afternoon. "They know it's going to happen."

— Paloma Esquivel

Read more
ONGOING
Watch live: Coverage from KTLA-TV

2:33 P.M.
San Bernardino City Unified: 'Our students are safe'

School officials in San Bernardino said the schools will be dismissed "as usual" today, although the after-school program CAPS will not take place.

From the San Bernardino City Unified School District's Facebook page:

"We reassure you that our students are safe. As a precaution, no one is allowed into any of our campuses for the time being. The incident unfolding near the San Bernardino Golf Course is not near our schools. Schools will be dismissed as usual."

"Le aseguramos que todos nuestros alumnos están a salvo. Como una precaución, no se está permitiendo a nadie entrar a nuestros planteles escolares por ahora. El incidente que sucedio cerca del San Bernardino Golf Course no está cerca de nuestras escuelas. Los alumnos saldrán a la hora regular. Gracias."

— Sonali Kohli
2:28 P.M.
A mother's advice during a mass shooting: Make it look like no one is in the room

Olivia Navarro's daughter Jamile called her just after 11 a.m. Wednesday to tell her that multiple shooters were inside the Inland Regional Center, where she works.

Navarro told her daughter, who works as a case manager for children with special needs, to turn off all the lights and not to call again. Make it look like no one is in the room, she advised.

So Jamile did. And she told everyone else in the room to stay quiet, too.

Her phone shut off shortly after, sending Navarro into a fit of sobs as she wondered if her daughter was one of the people killed.

Police would later let Olivia know that her daughter was fine and had been evacuated to a golf course across the street

"I want to hold her, and thank God that she's alive," Navarro said.

— Sarah Parvini
2:24 P.M.
A surreal scene and high nerves at Loma Linda University Medical Center

Loma Linda University Medical Center's waiting room. (Kate Linthicum / Los Angeles times)

Kat Kit was waiting for her daughter to come out of routine surgery at Loma Linda University Medical Center when helicopters started unloading shooting victims and emergency workers began setting up triage areas.

The scene, she said, was surreal.

"I'm afraid, I'm scared and I'm sad," said Kit, who lives in Fontana.

Authorities say at least 14 people were killed and at least 14 others were wounded by up to three shooters.

Nerves were high in the hospital's waiting room.

"They haven't caught them yet," said Linda Frankenbergen, who was waiting for her husband to come out of surgery.

"And that's scary," Kit said, "because they could come in here."

— Kate Linthicum
2:23 P.M.
Preliminary numbers: 14 dead, 14 injured

The assailants killed at least 14 people and left another 14 wounded, San Bernardino police Chief Jarrod Burguan said, cautioning that those numbers are preliminary.

They may have opened fire on a holiday party being held by county employees, federal law enforcement sources and a witness told the Los Angeles Times.

-- James Queally and Richard A. Serrano
2:21 P.M.
One victim in critical condition at Arrowhead Regional

Six victims from Tuesday's shooting -- five women and one man -- were transported to Arrowhead Regional Medical Center in Colton, according to Dev GnanaDev, chairman of the hospital's surgery department.

One person was in critical but stable condition, Gnanadev said.

One of the patients was in surgery, two were in intensive care and two others are being monitored, according to hospital officials. One person was sent home.

Two other patients that had been headed to the hospital with "graze wounds" were sent to a community hospital instead, Gnanadev said.

— Alan Zarembo
2:11 P.M.
Mother of woman who heard gunshots: "She's scared"

    Angela Stutte spoke with her daughter, who was at #sanbernardino shooting. "She's scared." pic.twitter.com/ESNl1Mk33Y
    — Sarah Parvini (@sarahparvini) December 2, 2015

Multiple shooters stormed into a conference room at the Inland Regional Center two minutes after Miranda Stutte stepped out to go to the restroom, her mother told The Times.

Stutte, who works for the Department of Public Health, locked herself in the bathroom when she heard gunshots.

She was later evacuated to the golf course across the street from the Regional Center.

"She's scared," her mother said. "She has never had an experience like this."

— Sarah Parvini
2:10 P.M.
Shooters were armed with long guns

San Bernardino Police Chief Jarrod Burguan said the suspects were armed with long guns.

"We do not have any weapons recovered at this point," he said. "We're doing everything we can to keep this area safe."

Of the suspects intent, Burguan said: "They came in with a purpose."

— Rong-Gong Lin II
2:06 P.M.
Attackers have fled; government buildings locked down

Some details from the ongoing news conference:
2:04 P.M.
'Pray for everyone'

Marybeth Feild's phone rang over and over again with terrible news.

There was gunfire at the nonprofit Inland Regional Center, where she serves as board president and chief executive.

Her callers reported that shooters were in the large conference room that had been rented for a party. Employees told her that three shooters had opened fire.

The conference space is the largest room in the building, which houses employee offices, two to three small conference rooms, a public library and a coffee shop, she said.

Nearly all of the center's employees were evacuated from the building and taken to the Rock Church & World Outreach Center in San Bernardino, she said.

"They are the best people anybody would want to work with," Feild said.

Feild who handles all complaints and threats made to the center said the day had been normal, nothing to indicate trouble.

"I don't even understand why they would target these individuals," Feild said. "This is very bizarre. I don't know why anybody would want to hurt people who provide disability services."

Feild said she was heartbroken.

"Just pray for everyone," she said.

— Veronica Rocha
2:02 P.M.
Is this a terrorist incident? We do not know.
David Bowdich, assistant director in charge of the FBI office in Los Angeles
1:55 P.M.
Obama decries spate of mass shootings in U.S.

1:53 P.M.
Federal sources: County workers may have been targeted

The shooting took place at a gathering of San Bernardino County employees, according to federal law enforcement sources who requested anonymity because the investigation is active and ongoing. Those officials said they think that group, not the Inland Regional Center, may have been targeted.

Keith Nelson, vice president of the Inland Regional Center's Board of Trustees, said the shooting took place in building No. 3 on the campus.

Building No. 3 is the only building on the campus that is open to the public and does not require a work badge to enter, Nelson said.

The conference room, which holds up to 200 people, was decorated for a holiday party, said Marybeth Feild, board president and chief executive of the center.

—Paloma Esquivel, Richard A. Serrano and Veronica Rocha
1:50 P.M.
San Bernardino public schools on lockdown

"All San Bernardino City Unified School District schools and offices are on full lockdown for the safety of students and staff," the school district announced.

"All schools are scheduled to dismiss students on time today," it said in a statement, adding that during lockdowns, all gates and entrances are to be secured and no visitors are allowed.

— Lauren Raab
1:46 P.M.
Worried in Washington

Rep. Mark Takano said he and fellow lawmakers working at the Capitol are closely monitoring the situation in San Bernardino.

Takano, a Democrat representing California's 41st District, which includes Riverside, was speaking to a reporter on another matter and offered his concerns.

"My heart goes out to the victims of the shootings. It hits home to me because San Bernardino is right next door to Riverside. I used to drive into San Bernardino County to go to work. ... This shooting is disturbing and my thoughts are definitely with the people of San Bernardino and the victims and the victims' families."

Rep. Pete Aguilar, who represents the area, is on his way home from Washington now. Others are following the news from D.C.

"The news is definitely on the minds of lawmakers here. We're all very concerned about it," Takano said.

— Joy Resmovits
1:44 P.M.
Multiple hospitals

Shooting victims have been taken to a number of area hospitals.
1:44 P.M.
Hospital and school go on lockdown

Arrowhead Regional Medical Center. (Alan Zarembo / Los Angeles Times)

A local hospital and a charter school for elementary- and middle-school students near the site of the shooting have gone on lockdown.

The Arrowhead Regional Medical Center, which is reportedly treating some victims of the shooting, will be on lockdown for at least the next six hours, security guards said. Nobody is being allowed in the main entrance.

The Norton Space and Aeronautics Academy, which accepts students in kindergarten through eighth grade, is a block north of the Inland Regional Center, where the shooting took place.

"We are OK," a school employee told The Times via phone. "We are on lockdown, but we are just taking precautions."

Veronica Esparza, whose 9-year-old and 11-year-old nephews attend the school, waited for more news near the police barricade set up

around the site of the shooting. She said she had received a recorded message that the children were fine.

-- Paloma Esquivel, Laura J. Nelson and Alan Zarembo
1:43 P.M.
Victim's sister: Not knowing more 'is the scariest part'

Kathy Hotetz, 37, is one of dozens of people waiting for information outside of Arrowhead Regional Medical Center.

Her sister, Denise Peraza, 27, was shot in the leg and was being treated there, Hotetz said.

Hotetz said her sister works for the county and was shot once.

"She's alive. That's all I know," Hotetz said. "Not knowing any more than that is the scariest part."

— Louis Sahagun
1:34 P.M.
San Bernardino police plead with people to stay away


http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-85209158/
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MikeWB

Guys, save as many eye-witness reports as you can. Just copy paste them here as you see them being reported in the news. This smells like another Sandy Hook.
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Idaho Kid

OMG, have they killed Noah Posner again?





How much in the GoFundMe?
"Certainly the Protocols are a forgery, and that is the one proof we have of their authenticity. The Jews have worked with forged documents for the past 24 hundred years, namely ever since they have had any documents whatsoever." - Ezra Pound

yankeedoodle

Hey, anybody notice this?
They had the "shooting" in the Planned Parenthood place, and they tied it to that Carly Fiorina bitch because she talked about Planned Parenthood.

Now, they have this "shooting" in a facility for disabled people, and, what do you bet they try to tie it to Trump, because he supposedly mocked a disabled reporter?


MikeWB

Islamic tеrrоrіѕm again?

QuoteMultiple sources from multiple agencies identified one of the three attackers at the resource center to NBC News as Syed Farook. No other information was available, but a knowledgeable source said another member of the trio is believed to be Farook's brother.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/san-bernardino-shooting/authorities-respond-report-shooting-san-bernardino-california-n472976
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yankeedoodle

Quote from: MikeWB on December 02, 2015, 10:36:48 PM
Islamic tеrrоrіѕm again? 

Obviously ISIS from Syria, so, obviously, US must put invade Syria.   

MikeWB

It does look like Turkey is about to invade norther Syria... UK, US & NATO will bоmb the shit & Turkish ground forces will then invade.
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Ognir

Am in Ireland and something happened at Dublin airport this morning
Turned on teevee to see what was going on

And of course on Skynews, they had this shooting on
Local guy interviewed and he said
"and they were running drills only 1 mile away"

Financial crash coming after they take the guns
Most zionists don't believe that God exists, but they do believe he promised them Palestine

- Ilan Pappe

MikeWB

Well, drills on its own don't mean much these days. In the US, most of the gov buildings and departments have been having active shooter drills for years. Every month they have a drill. Most of the private companies too have been having drills. Just last week I was at a company and they had an active shooter drill (I think they have one every 6 months). Schools too now have them all the time.
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maz



They managed to work in Israel, Jews, the Holocaust AND 9/11  <:^0

They'll seem to go to all lengths to get Jews in a storyline, even if it is to put up conflicting information to support a narrative.

Widow: Husband, Shooter Allegedly Argued Over Holocaust

Quote
Nicholas Thalasinos, 52, a longtime employee at the health department, held politically conservative views and posted often about his faith in a confrontational way. After he was killed in Wednesday's attack at a

government services center, his wife faced questions from many social media commenters and from the media who surrounded her home about whether his views might have prompted the attack or made him a target.

Police say a co-worker, Syed Farook, and his wife, Tashfeen Malik, sprayed bullets into an employee holiday party at a government service center where 14 people died.

Thalasinos' last post on Facebook describes a threat he received online. It read: "you will never sucsseed (sic) to make a country for jews ... soon you'll get your ass kicked, you will die and never see Israel as country

believe me never."

Thalasinos' social-media presence, including his Twitter handle, @LeastServant, shows his pro-Israel views and critical remarks on religion and politics.

But his wife, Jennifer Thompson-Thalasinos, in an interview, said her husband's strident views did not instigate the deadly attack.

A fairy-tale relationship

They met online 14 years ago on opposite sides of the country. Jennifer was in Colton, Calif., and Nicholas was in Cape May, N.J.

They sparked conversation in a group forum discussing the 1980s television series,Beauty and the Beast.

A GoFundMe page set up to help Thompson-Thalasinos with funeral costs describes their relationship as "a truly romantic, fairy tale love."

Thompson-Thalasinos said that they both knew they had met the love of their lives. When Nicholas first went out West to meet Jennifer, he was scheduled to go home on Sept. 11, 2001. He couldn't leave.The two lived in a baby-blue stucco house in a quiet neighborhood with their gray cat.

"There's irony in that our relationship started with a terrorism-related tragedy, and then ended with terrorism," she said.

Wife: Victim's pro-Israeli views didn't spark San Bernardino shootings

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Thompson-Thalasinos said her husband never spoke ill of his colleague and never expressed that Farook may have had extreme views. She said the two just "agreed to disagree."

"There are those out there who are spinning this," she said, adding, "They are making it to be that my husband was asking for it ... that he caused this to happen."

Thompson-Thalasinos said survivors of the party later described to her  an argument between her husband and Farook before Farook stormed off, returning heavily armed with his wife.

"From what I understand from those where there, my husband got into an argument with Farook about the Holocaust," she said, adding "That's always been a hot button issue between Muslims and Messianic Jews."

yankeedoodle


Ognir

Most zionists don't believe that God exists, but they do believe he promised them Palestine

- Ilan Pappe

Ognir

Most zionists don't believe that God exists, but they do believe he promised them Palestine

- Ilan Pappe

yankeedoodle

Quoteit was a black Impala....or a SUV 

He may be - or probably is? - accurate about seeing 3 white men, but, when he is asked what they were driving, he said "it was a black Impala...or a SUV."

An Impala is a Chevrolet car - made by GM, like Vauxhall or Opel in Europe - and could not be mistaken for an SUV.  Of course, it's possible it got confused about the name "Impala," but "Impala" is as well know as Ford Fiesta or Ford Cortina.

Doesn't mean he is wrong about seeing 3 white men, but this interview would not be very good testimony in a court of law.

CHEVY IMPALA
http://www.chevrolet.com/impala-full-size-cars.html


 

yankeedoodle

Here's a much better report about 3 white gunmen.  These fuckers don't even worry about the truth anymore.  People can see what they see, and believe what they believe, but the fucking media will still pump the idiots in the public so full of fucking bullshit that the dog-shit bastards want to lynch the fucking Moooossssslllluuummmss. 

San Bernardino mass shooting: Eyewitness describes "three white, tall, athletic-build gunmen"



Ognir

Submitted by Derrick Broze via TheAntiMedia.org,

On Wednesday, the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigations said the agency has no evidence the married couple accused of killing 14 people in San Bernardino, California earlier this month had any connection to an active terror cell. This admission from the FBI directly contradicts media reports that immediately claimed the San Bernardino shooters were linked to Daesh (ISIS) via social media.

Speaking at a counterterrorism conference in New York, Director James Comey said Syed Farook and Tashfeen Malik were inspired by Daesh, but were not directly involved with any specific terror group. Reuters reports that Comey believes Daesh has "revolutionized" terrorism by using social media to spread propaganda to inspire small-scale attacks.

"Your parents' al Qaeda was a very different model than the threat we face today," Comey said.

Despite the admission the couple had no connection to Daesh, Comey said Farook and Malik had shown support for "jihad and martyrdom" in private communications as early as 2013, but never in public on social media. The director also stated the FBI has "hundreds" of ongoing investigations in every state in the nation that involve potential Daesh-inspired terror plots.

Comey also repeated his calls for ending encrypted communication based on the premise that Daesh uses encryption to plan terror attacks. "We are not going to break the Internet," he said while challenging technology companies to stop creating services that cannot be accessed by law enforcement. Comey's calls for breaking encrypted communications echo the recent efforts of police chiefs and attorney generals across the United States.

Another piece of the puzzle that must be considered pertains to conflicting eyewitness accounts of the San Bernardino shooting. Although the oldstream media quickly accepted the narrative of a Muslim couple radicalized by anti-American sentiment and radical Islam, there was at least one conflicting account that should be investigated.

Shortly after the shooting, witness Sally Abdelmageed talked to CBS News about what she saw.  Abdelmageed works at the Inland Regional Center and saw the shooters enter the building. She told CBS's Scott Pelley that she saw what appeared to be three white men dressed in military clothes.

"We saw three men dressed in all black military attire, with vests on, holding assault rifles, and they opened up the doors to building 3 and one of them starts to spray and shoot all over the room," Sally Abdelmageed told Pelley.

When asked to provide more detail about the shooters she said, "I couldn't see a face, he had a black hat on, from my view all i could see was a black hat. A black long sleeve shirt, possibly gloves on, he had black cargo pants, the kinds with zippers and big puffy pockets. He had a huge assault rifle and extra ammo. I just saw three."

"You're certain you saw three men?" Pelley asked.

"Yes, it looked like their skin color was white. They looked like they were athletic and they appeared to be tall."

Her account matches the original report from Southern California's Fox 11, which tweeted that police were searching for "3 white males dressed in military gear." Another eyewitness expressed doubt that Farook was the culprit.

Whatever the truth is, it seems obvious the government will use this crisis to add more fuel to the fire that is the global War on Terror. This fire — and the insanity it breeds — threatens to consume the planet, leaving behind a scorched Earth devoid of common sense and critical thinking. Avoiding catastrophe and further division of the people is going to take each and every awakened soul.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-18/yet-again-media-got-facts-wrong-about-san-bernardino-attacks
Most zionists don't believe that God exists, but they do believe he promised them Palestine

- Ilan Pappe

yankeedoodle

Three shooters are reported on police radio at about time mark 26:27.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ipuE7Qv7hI&feature=youtu.be&t=1585