TiU 8th Sep guest DBS

[Ognir]

Scheduled for this evening 18:00 CET /12:00 New York

We are going to be discussing the financial situation

Got questions on this topic, post away and I'll ask them

[joeblow]

1. I'm confused concerning whether one should use Gold or Silver as a guard against Zionistic Inflation.
2. There have been questions about where DBS/Rafeeq get their information sources from about Inside Economic Intel.
3. The Goyim have a hard time understanding the Global Economic System, but discussing the reasons for the rising food prices is great.

P.S.
I'm making a video to completely humiliate Erica Hufshit. If anyone could please recommend a good Face-Morphing program, it'd be greatly appreciated (with link to free download).

[mobes]

Here's a good question - As world markets tumble, the fragile banking system is being propped up by central banks worldwide with the help of 15 participating Central Banks.

According to the Washington Agreement of September 1999, these banks are participating in the "regulation" (or manipulation) of the gold price:

    * Oesterreichische Nationalbank
    * Banca d'Italia (Italy)
    * Banque de France (France)
    * Banco do Portugal (Portugal)
    * Schweizerische Nationalbank
    * Banque Nationale de Belgique (Belgium)
    * Banque Centrale du Luxembourg (Luxembourg)
    * Deutsche Bundesbank (Germany)
    * Banco de España (Spain)
    * Bank of England
    * Suomen Pankki (Poland? not sure)
    * De Nederlandsche Bank (Netherlands)
    * Central Bank of Ireland
    * Sveriges Riksbank
    * European Central Bank

Second Version - March 2004, These Participating Central Banks:

    * European Central Bank
    * Banca d'Italia
    * Banco de España
    * Banco de Portugal
    * Bank of Greece
    * Banque Centrale du Luxembourg
    * Banque de France
    * Banque Nationale de Belgique
    * Central Bank & Financial Services Authority of Ireland
    * De Nederlandsche Bank
    * Deutsche Bundesbank
    * Oesterreichische Nationalbank
    * Suomen Pankki
    * Schweizerische Nationalbank
    * Sveriges Riksbank

(For more info I will refer you to gata.org, lemetropolecafe.com and a video called Gold Rush 21, you can google it and find it on youtube or on the websites provided)

QUESTION: TRY TO PAINT A PICTURE FOR THE LISTENERS OF THIS SHOW, WHEN THE PARTICIPATING CENTRAL BANKS ARE EXPOSED FOR THEIR MANIPULATION. (P.S. - LETS NOT FORGET THE CONTRIVED FOOD, WATER, AND OIL SHORTAGES HOW TO PREPARE FOR THIS?)

Thanks Og,

Mobes

[Anonymous]

How long before they collapse the Fed and adopt a regional Amero?

Can properties regain the value lost in the last couple years or is there fundamentally too many homes built?

Predictions on the percentage increase in price on specific food items: grain, rice, etc...

[Ognir]

Good stuff, keep the questions coming

[Roy Hobs]

I don't think for one minute that our "Owners" don't have a contingency plan for the Economic collapse.  

They control and manipulate the Economy (ie., Gold price), so why wouldn't they be able to manipulate it again during their "contingency" plan for world wide depression?

Daryl seems to think, along with Rafiq, that the World Wide Economy will spiral out of control -- beyond the control of our Owners -- and that Gold will some day skyrocket.

I don't personally believe it.

I'd like to hear Daryl's opinion of "How" the Economy will spiral out of control of the Central Bankers and the Criminal Jewish/Zionist Gang?  In other words.............they are not stupid and have contingency plans already in the making.  This Economic Collapse is not happening out of their control/understanding.  I get the impression that Daryl thinks this collapse is happening outside of their knowledge/control.

The only way the Economy will collapse out of their control, is if they lose power.  And I don't see that happening because the "human" is one stupid dumb animal.  

Thanks, Roy

[Ralph Furely]

can someone lend me 20 bucks?

[Ralph Furely]

And I don't see that happening because the "human" is one stupid dumb animal.

quote of the month.  sad but so true.

[uryth]

1. I'm confused concerning whether one should use Gold or Silver as a guard against Zionistic Inflation.

surely by investing in gold (or silver) you would be validating their control mechanism. gold is worthless (i cant eat it and it doesn't entertain or educate me). they control all the gold anyway so by buying it you are admitting that you are a slave! the price of tins of tuna has gone up by loads in the last year and if it all goes to anarchy then i wont be hungry and tins of food will be worth as many rolex' as you could fit on your arm. i could also recommend investing in analogue synthesizers as the price keeps going up and you can have loads of fun annoying the neighbors making evil techno at 4 in the morning.

don't forget that in 1884 aluminum was worth as much as silver.

[Roy Hobs]

I listened to the broadcast.  Ognir, you mentioned the word "contingency" so obviously you read my original Post.  For that I appreciate that you took into account our questions.

However.........you misunderstood what I was saying.  I don't hold any grudge for doing so.

Daryl did it again.  He emphatically said that Gold was going to go through the roof.

How does he know?  And who gives him the right to make such an assertion?  

I'm pissed.  Why?  Because of Daryl, I have lost close to $10,000.  I bought Gold when he told me to buy Gold.  I bought Silver when he told me to buy Silver.  I trusted him.  Now I have no cash.  I sold everything to buy Metals.  Now.............I'm down $10,000 and I need money to live.  It's going to kill me to have to sell and take this loss.

I would have respect for Daryl, and I would forgive him, if he would just say.........."I don't know what Gold and Silver will do in the future."

The Jewish Cartell controls the Metal markets.  They can do anything they want with the price of Metals.  Daryl has ZERO proof that Gold will go to $5,000 an ounce as he is saying.  You can't fuck with people like that!  This is life man.  Not some joke.  Now I have no money and I'm losing more of it every day.  Gold is now in the seven hundreds.  Silver is below 10.  

This collapse is NOT outside of their control.  Daryl continues to imply that it is.  Gold will remain controllable until their power is removed.  When will that happen?  Probably never.

STOP TELLING US GOLD IS GOING THROUGH THE ROOF!!!!!

And stop asking for money.  Especially given the fact that you (Daryl) have cost me $10,000.  The way I figure it, Daryl owes me.  

I've given Daryl over $300 in the past.  All I ever expected was to be treated with kindness and respect.  You say you are an asshole via Email.  I'd agree.  But you can change your ways.  Especially when someone is helping you with money as I did.  

Don't piss on my head and tell me it's raining!

Go ahead and paypal me Daryl.  mailto:roy-hobs@hotmail.com">roy-hobs@hotmail.com

[ThaTruth920]

I listened to the broadcast.  Ognir, you mentioned the word "contingency" so obviously you read my original Post.  For that I appreciate that you took into account our questions.

However.........you misunderstood what I was saying.  I don't hold any grudge for doing so.

Daryl did it again.  He emphatically said that Gold was going to go through the roof.

How does he know?  And who gives him the right to make such an assertion?  

I'm pissed.  Why?  Because of Daryl, I have lost close to $10,000.  I bought Gold when he told me to buy Gold.  I bought Silver when he told me to buy Silver.  I trusted him.  Now I have no cash.  I sold everything to buy Metals.  Now.............I'm down $10,000 and I need money to live.  It's going to kill me to have to sell and take this loss.

I would have respect for Daryl, and I would forgive him, if he would just say.........."I don't know what Gold and Silver will do in the future."

The Jewish Cartell controls the Metal markets.  They can do anything they want with the price of Metals.  Daryl has ZERO proof that Gold will go to $5,000 an ounce as he is saying.  You can't fuck with people like that!  This is life man.  Not some joke.  Now I have no money and I'm losing more of it every day.  Gold is now in the seven hundreds.  Silver is below 10.  

This collapse is NOT outside of their control.  Daryl continues to imply that it is.  Gold will remain controllable until their power is removed.  When will that happen?  Probably never.

STOP TELLING US GOLD IS GOING THROUGH THE ROOF!!!!!

And stop asking for money.  Especially given the fact that you (Daryl) have cost me $10,000.  The way I figure it, Daryl owes me.  

I've given Daryl over $300 in the past.  All I ever expected was to be treated with kindness and respect.  You say you are an asshole via Email.  I'd agree.  But you can change your ways.  Especially when someone is helping you with money as I did.  

Don't piss on my head and tell me it's raining!

Go ahead and paypal me Daryl.  mailto:roy-hobs@hotmail.com">roy-hobs@hotmail.com

Gold is going through the roof... eventually.... read up on the Great Depression.... the value of gold fell so low that people were selling to try to keep some of the money.... the bankers bought it up at low prices then the collapse happened... gold did go through the roof.... if you have that much in gold and silver I would just be patient and hold on to it.... if not... well I'll buy it from you....  

[Anonymous]

Sorry to hear that Roy, sad to hear that happen  Maybe the gold will be devalued and replaced with moneyless society, or maybe they will bring back gold after it falls to like $100 (or lower) and used once more as a 'secure' backing to the monetary situation (which they will control, but then you have a piece - although small - of the new system) ... ya never know... it is up to those who believe possible futures will occur to decide what to do with the info they have and hope their decisions pay off in the future.  I bought a bunch of food and working tools in case, maybe it was a bad investment... but if things go bad I have some help

I would recommend that Daryl take head of not attempting to assert that a given outcome will occur in the future, as it is not definitely knowable what will be the course of action chosen to bring about the change they desire.  A disclaimer that he might be wrong would be helpful, if he doesn't want to stop telling people about his perception of what is to come.  And recommend everyone else who hears things of what is to come to not necessarily accept them as absolutes and be weary of decisions made based on a presumed foreknowledge of the future.  Take in the info from everywhere, and make you own choice as to what you want to do with that info.

Peace.

[AK3N470N]

I listened to the broadcast.  Ognir, you mentioned the word "contingency" so obviously you read my original Post.  For that I appreciate that you took into account our questions.

However.........you misunderstood what I was saying.  I don't hold any grudge for doing so.

Daryl did it again.  He emphatically said that Gold was going to go through the roof.

How does he know?  And who gives him the right to make such an assertion?  

I'm pissed.  Why?  Because of Daryl, I have lost close to $10,000.  I bought Gold when he told me to buy Gold.  I bought Silver when he told me to buy Silver.  I trusted him.  Now I have no cash.  I sold everything to buy Metals.  Now.............I'm down $10,000 and I need money to live.  It's going to kill me to have to sell and take this loss.

I would have respect for Daryl, and I would forgive him, if he would just say.........."I don't know what Gold and Silver will do in the future."

The Jewish Cartell controls the Metal markets.  They can do anything they want with the price of Metals.  Daryl has ZERO proof that Gold will go to $5,000 an ounce as he is saying.  You can't fuck with people like that!  This is life man.  Not some joke.  Now I have no money and I'm losing more of it every day.  Gold is now in the seven hundreds.  Silver is below 10.  

This collapse is NOT outside of their control.  Daryl continues to imply that it is.  Gold will remain controllable until their power is removed.  When will that happen?  Probably never.

STOP TELLING US GOLD IS GOING THROUGH THE ROOF!!!!!

And stop asking for money.  Especially given the fact that you (Daryl) have cost me $10,000.  The way I figure it, Daryl owes me.  

I've given Daryl over $300 in the past.  All I ever expected was to be treated with kindness and respect.  You say you are an asshole via Email.  I'd agree.  But you can change your ways.  Especially when someone is helping you with money as I did.  

Don't piss on my head and tell me it's raining!

Go ahead and paypal me Daryl.  mailto:roy-hobs@hotmail.com">roy-hobs@hotmail.com

I believe it will go up bro. But if you honestly spent all your money on gold and silver because a voice on the internet told you to... it isn't really Daryl's fault. You should have only spent maybe $4,000 at most so you would still have some cash to get through life. Make sure you hold onto what you can though because it will go up once this crash occurs.

DBS does need to stop asking for money and going on rants that instill fear into his listeners. Saying we should be rioting at the supermarket or hiding in a bunker with a shot gun like WTF is up with that. No one calls him on that but had that come out of the mouths of the two banished souls, everyone would be making waves in their soap boxes.

I grabbed gold back when Alex Jones was saying to when it was still $500 or so per Oz. The Jews may be lowering the price to a point where people like yourself will really believe they have lost so you can sell your gold then they jack up the price. I wouldn't sell all of it if I were you if you are going to sell.

But all in all, that's some messed up stuff. I hope there weren't others who listened to him because back in Nov 07 he said a crash by the end of March 08. By March he said definitely a crash by summer. Summer he said Christmas time the world will be unrecognizable from what we are used to. Stories like that would make someone spend their money on coins as this is EXACTLY what he said to do with your money you have extra. That and send him some of it. Con artist in my view which I have felt for a long time. Probably why he didn't want anyone to see his picture either. American patriot fighting from a remote location in France...

[Anonymous]

You should never compare gold to the fiat currencies to guage its value.  It is the only thing universally and historically recognized as a store of value so despite their fluctuation of its prices, it will be the one thing that could save you in a real crisis time when you are looking desperately for supplies.  I've also heard DBS say that the bankers will make gold go down in an interview with Rafiq.  There is no way to predict the time or the scale of the fluctuation with any meaningful accuracy, that much is clear.

I've been telling people to at least divest from the dollar into currencies that are more stable, short term, like the Swiss franc for example.  You will at least be able to ride out on the devaluation from inflation if nothing else.  My main interest is in the window of opportunity available to us when they purposely collapse the dollar and begin the issuance of the Amero via the NAU.  If we can get active enough we can derail the plans to have a smooth transition to that fiat currency which is on the horizon...

[K-Sensor]

Regarding the economy ...

"The only economy that can die in recession is one that is honest!"

As long as people are fooled and still have the good will to work and whilst the top of the business world is managed by Government and other connections to the printing of money, then an economy will continue to go.  What does this say?  It means any collapse in a corrupt financial system, is really an orchestrate slump.

Why would someone want an economy to slump?  Well you could bring about a time when people will join an army.  Does America and its Jewish lords want a war, well think of Iran and the other Clean Break plans.

My expectation now is that Americans will jump into military positions to keep their families going and food on the table.  All in an orchestrated war on Iran and later Syria.  Ashkenazis laughing with the blood spill and their glee of profits.

[§N9sh2bj]

Forgive me Hobs, I'm going to pick on you to point out the specific mistakes many people make. So be a sport, okay? Whether you really did the things below, or are just posting to try and off some slander on the D, I do not know and it's not important to me. People *are* stupid enough to make the mistakes you listed, and worse. I might as well, use your example as a lesson to everybody.

Daryl did it again.  He emphatically said that Gold was going to go through the roof.

How does he know?  And who gives him the right to make such an assertion?  

He is an American. Americans are plauged with a twisted thought process which makes them think the 'thingy in the bible' is coming. It's really stupid and and as ass of a way to live. It is because the entire society is thouroughly soaked in the theories of the end of the world which got the Puritans kicked out of Europe; not reality. "Get the hell out of here, you nutjobs!".

Certainly, the money is controlled by the central banks. Certainly, this is not good for us working folks. And when we try to take the control back, their armies are brainwashed into thinking we are trouble. Well, have no fear of that! The problems do not translate, for me, into 'the sky is falling/jesus is coming/muhammad is returning (or his grandson)/yadda yadda yadda'. It's all crap man! It's the same crap as 'work now, your reward is in heaven (after death, of course!)'. Same shit/Different Day. Believe in what you see, not in spaghetti and meatball monsters in the sky.

I'm pissed.  Why?  Because of Daryl, I have lost close to $10,000.

No. Because of *you*, you 'lost' 10,000. Or so you say 'lost', a purchase of gold is not 'a loss'. Daryl wasn't holding a hot poker to your face at the Cash Machine.

I bought Gold when he told me to buy Gold.  I bought Silver when he told me to buy Silver.  I trusted him.  Now I have no cash.  I sold everything to buy Metals.  Now.............I'm down $10,000 and I need money to live.  It's going to kill me to have to sell and take this loss.

A) It is not going to 'kill' you. Stop stressing out. Get some physical activity, don't eat any processed foods, get an organic beef burger and calm the f(/k down! Shut down your computer for a few days, along with TV, radio. Do some gardening or house repair.

B) Brother, I have lived out of my car. I have dumpstered from some of the finest containers in the world. You can find *good* food: your worries are small if you *really* had 10,000 USD to blow on Metals.

C) Am *I* *Really* supposed to *believe* you spent 10,000 USD on what some guy on the radio said? Are you so brainwashed to the preacher in the pulpit? Let me guess, you are an American. What about your own research? Due dilligence. I think you must be joking, or posting some agit-prop nonsense. No one can be so stupid or gullible.

I would have respect for Daryl, and I would forgive him, if he would just say.........."I don't know what Gold and Silver will do in the future."

Essentially I think, this is DBS's sometimes guest, Muhammad Rafeeq / Rafiq, says. Or does not say. He specifically does not chime in when D gets on a rant about predictions of the future, and rightly so, holds his tongue (maybe 'head' is a better word for it). I think it is against Islam to make predictions. It is a kind of sorcery forbidden in the Koran. And for good reason too! People need to think for themselves. You are absolutely right than DBS should stick with stating the facts as he sees them. He can make suggestions; but making predictions is idiotic, it makes the predictor look like an ass. Whether it's true or false, it's wrong.

Gold is now in the seven hundreds.  Silver is below 10.  

What do you want to own, money; or paper I could whip out on my HP Deskjet? I don't give a god-damn rats ass about what people *believe* in. People believe in all sorts of crazy and stupid things; all of which distract from What Is. People believe in the value of money*; they also believe in Sky Fairies.

And stop asking for money.

Too true. The smart man puts a link on his website, make it prominent, a big banner if you like, or a column on the side. A poor person who can only listen to daryl live on CII, is not going to have a: computer, access to the internet, or 5 dollars, to send! The rich f)(kers who can afford all three, can visit his website and drop him some change. And don't talk about Israeli agents at your door. This drops deposits through the floor: freaks people out, and then donors don't want to attach their financials to your operations.

- §N9sh

* Edit: paper money

[Roy Hobs]

C) Am *I* *Really* supposed to *believe* you spent 10,000 USD on what some guy on the radio said? Are you so brainwashed to the preacher in the pulpit? Let me guess, you are an American. What about your own research? Due dilligence. I think you must be joking, or posting some agit-prop nonsense. No one can be so stupid or gullible.

Answers...........Yes to the first question.  Not only Daryl but so many others ie., Bob Chapman and the rest.  Second question.........Yes and No.  In 2000 I was a Christian Zionist.  In 2001 I was a militant Christian Zionist believing Radical Islam was days away from destroying America and it was our duty to take up arms and fight them.  2003 my eyes began to open.  In 2004 I worshipped at the alter of Alex Jones.  By 2005 I was beginning to question now everybody and everything, which is a good thing.  The facts regarding Israeli involvement into 9-11 were overwhelming.  Because of the lack of researchers presenting these facts, when I was introduced to Daryl and Christopher Bollyn, I of course trusted these men with my life.  Obviously I was still coming out of my brainwashed coma.  But, I had come along way in less than a few years.  

You think I'm joking or posting 'agit-prop nonsense'.  I wish that was the case.  No one can be so stupid?  Perhaps.  But I'm in the 40's and worked for a living.  I didn't have time to do the kind of research and diligent study needed to sift through the deception.  The money I used to purchase Gold and Silver was my retirement -- 25 years of working my ass off.  

So.........you call me 'stupid'.  I would like to think of myself then as 'ignorant' not stupid.  But I appreciate your candor.  

Ultimately I realize that I am who to blame.  The reason I am so pissed at Daryl, is that he "continues" to make matter of fact statements which he has no business to make.  Everyone in this so called truth movement must by now realize that pretty much everything we see in this world is manipulated.  Even Daryl admits to the economy being manipulated.  So, why can't he just admit to not knowing for sure how the Economy is going to happen?  They could supress Gold forever if they wanted to.  

As I have said and asked.....................anyone prove to me how Gold operates "outside" of the control of the Jewish Cartell?  How is Gold "independent" from their machinations?  

I believe it is not.  So.........with that being said and that being admitted to by the likes of Daryl and Bob Chapman, I really wish they would just shut their mouths and stop telling us that Gold is going through the roof.

Yes I was a sucker, but I don't wish others to fall into the same trap as myself.  If other people can learn from my experience, then my ranting is worth it.  

At the time I really wanted to buy a piece of land.  This in my opinion would have been the smartest way of protecting my assests.  But land where I live was way out of my purchasing power.  I think I had hoped that when Gold did go through the roof as they say, then I would have enough to purchase a piece of land.  I'm not totally stupid (ignorant).  I realized then as I do today, that Gold is only worth what someone will pay for it.  I knew that.  But it was the only avenue that I saw at the time, to protect 25 years of busting my ass.  

So.............I'd really like for Daryl, if he wants us to continue to trust him as a leader, just stop saying as a matter of fact that Gold is going to go through the roof.  That's all.  

If it does................."they" either allowed it, or they lost power.  I doubt the latter will ever happen.  I was a person who was brainwashed like the majority of Americans are now.  I remember the state of Mind I was in.  There is no coming out of it, unless all hell breaks lose here in this country.  

People say that the Jewish Cartell will someday abandon the US as a feeding trough.  I doubt it.  I believe all of this is about power, greed and control.  I do not believe in an End Game.  I think End Game speculation is simply deception.  

We are dealing with one giant crime family.  Period.  They will milk their operations for as long as their children's children remain greedy bastards.  There is no way to implement an End Game without losing control of the world population.  Their isn't enough police to police the world.  History will continue to repeat long after I'm dead.