The Democrats’ real strategy in launching recounts

[MikeWB]

The Democrats' real strategy in launching recounts
By Richard Baehr
The recount in Wisconsin, and the coming ones in Michigan and Pennsylvania will not change the outcomes in any of the states.  No recount ever changes thousands of votes.  I do not think that is the purpose.

The recounts, if done by hand, which can be demanded, may take longer than the last day for completing the official counts in a state and directing Electoral College voters.  If all 3 states miss the deadline, Trump is at 260, Hillary at 232.  No one hits 270. 

Then this goes to Congress, where the House voting 1 vote per state elects Trump, and Senate selects Pence. This would be first time Pthis happened since 1824, but in that case, John Quincy Adams won in the House, though he had fewer electoral college votes than Andrew Jackson. 

If this goes to the US House and Senate, and the result is the same as result from the Electoral College without the recounts, why do it?  The answer is to make Trump seem even more illegitimate, that he did not win the popular vote  (he lost by over 2.1 million), he did not win the Electoral College (did not reach 270), and was elected by being inserted into the presidency by members of his own party in Congress.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/11/the_democrats_real_strategy_in_launching_recounts.html

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The only strategy for the Demorats here is to get boots on the ground in these
recount states, so that they have an excuse to have the Clinton Mafiosi
fly and drive in to strong-arm the Electoral College reps .

Roger Stone Breaks Down Why Hillary Is Pushing Trump Election Recount
by The Alex Jones Channel  , Published on Nov 27, 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o56Vg4jQN0A

Also : the New York Times changed the peculiarities of its the Electoral College Map :



It could very well be that Gary Johnson is going to donate some of his votes to the Clinton Campaign ....
And not only in Michigan, the same donation of votes can be done in Wisconsin and
Pennsylvania as well :

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Michigan Certifies Donald Trump Winner Of State's Electoral Votes

by Tyler Durden Nov 28, 2016 2:17 PM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-28/michigan-certifies-donald-trump-winner-states-electoral-votes

  "Did Michigan just spoil Jill Stein's party?
   
   https://twitter.com/AP_Politics/status/803314594697637892
   
   (screenshot made from my webbrowser which was still loaded ...)
   
   As AP reports,
   
      The Board of State Canvassers certified Trump's 10,704-vote victory
      on Monday, nearly three weeks after the election.
   
      The two-tenths of a percentage point margin out of nearly 4.8
      million votes is the closest presidential race in Michigan in more
      than 75 years.
   
      Trump's win in Michigan gives the Republican 306 electoral votes to
      Democrat Hillary Clinton's 232.
   
      Trump is the first Republican presidential nominee to win Michigan
      since 1988.
   
   Until now, Michigan was never called by many of the mainstream media
   but now that is has Trump has 306 Electoral college votes...
   
   
   
   And while WI and PA recounts are underway, it seems like an even longer
   shot for 'Jillary' to start recount in Michigan even though she is
   expected to ask for a recount (and has until Wednesday).
   
   Trump would have seven days to file objections to her request.
   
   From the comments :

   AlaricBalth  BaBaBouy
   •Nov 28, 2016 2:40 PM
   The Wisconsin Elections Commission set a timetable Monday for a recount
   of the presidential election but rejected a request to conduct it by
   hand made by Green Party candidate Jill Stein, who quickly responded
   that she would sue.
   http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/11/28/elections-staff-layout-recount-timeline/94539210/
   "

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AP PHOTO/MATT ROURKE
A technician prepares voting machines to be used in the presidential election in Philadelphia.
[ should the technician, considering the importance of his job, not be wearing a blue suit instead of #pizzagate pyjamas? is this our future? ]
news — Real Time

Stein campaign files Pennsylvania recount suit
Updated: November 28, 2016 — 3:39 PM EST
by Angela Couloumbis & Rob Tornoe - Philadelphia Media Network
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/real-time/Despite-successful-fundraising-effort-recount-of-Pennsylvania-remains-difficult.html

  "HARRISBURG — Former Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein on
   Monday continued her campaign to contest the election results in three
   battleground states, filing suit in Pennsylvania seeking a statewide
   recount.
   
   Legal papers filed in Commonwealth Court by a lawyer for Stein's
   campaign contend the Nov. 8 election was "illegal" and the results
   inaccurate based on research suggesting there might have been
   irregularities with electronic voting machines, among other evidence.
   
   "Petitioners have grave concerns about the integrity of electronic
   voting machines used in their districts," the suit stated.
   
   Though Monday's petition was filed by 100 Pennsylvania voters, as
   required by the state's election law, it is part of Stein's effort to
   challenge results in three states that were critical to deciding the
   presidential election.
   
   Stein's camp filed a recount petition last week in Wisconsin, and is
   expected to do so this week Michigan.
   
   As of Monday morning, Stein has raised $6.2 million dollars, covering
   the costs of recounts in both Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, and is close
   to her total goal of $7 million goal to cover recount costs in Michigan.
   
   But when it comes to the Keystone State, it turns out raising the money
   might have been the easiest step.
   
   As Stein points out herself in a video posted on Sunday, initiating a
   statewide recount of Pennsylvania's vote is "especially complicated."
   Unlike Wisconsin, Stein can't simply file a direct request for a
   recount, leaving just two paths for a potential statewide audit.

   

   How the Pennsylvania Recount Works
   by Stein/Baraka 2016 , Published on Nov 27, 2016
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpnfdlXaY40
     "2016 Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein explains why
      Pennsylania presidential election results recount is different from
      other states'. Voters must initiate the recount in each
      precinct—Pennsylvania contains more than 9,000 precincts. Learn how to
      kickstart the recount in a Pennsylvania precinct: jill2016.com/recountPA "
   
   Stein's lawsuit would have to present evidence that election fraud was
   probable in Pennsylvania. Democratic Secretary of State Pedro Cortes
   says there's no evidence of voting irregularities during the Nov. 8
   election
   
   "Absolutely not," Cortes told reporters. "There is no evidence
   whatsoever that points to any type of irregularity in any way, shape or
   form."
   
   While Stein is essentially alleging that errors, tampering or  hacking
   had occurred to affect outcomes in the three states, even computer
   scientists who recommended a recount to rule out tampering have gone to
   great lengths to make it clear there is no proof of hacking or fraud in
   the election results.
   
   President-elect Donald Trump continued to slam the recount effort over
   the weekend, calling it a "scam" and declaring "nothing will change."
   Marc Elias, general counsel for Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential
   campaign, said the Clinton campaign agrees with the recount in
   "principle," but also wrote that "we had not uncovered any actionable
   evidence of hacking or outside attempts to alter the voting
   technology."
   
   So instead, Stein is promoting an "especially complicated"
   voter-initiated recount effort that involves three voters in every
   precinct or election district in Pennsylvania submitting a notarized
   affidavit to the clerk in their individual election districts.
   
   Lawrence Otter, a lawyer for Stein's campaign, said individual voters
   were filing petitions with boards of elections in several counties
   across the state seeking recounts in their precincts. Voters had
   already done so in Philadelphia, and Otter said they were expected to
   do so in Bucks County as well later Monday.
   
   According to the Department of State, there were 9,163 voting precincts
   in Pennsylvania during the 2016 election. So Stein would need over
   27,000 voters to file notarized affidavits, but it's unclear if that
   avenue is even still available.
   
   According to Wanda Murren, spokeswoman for the Pennsylvania Department
   of State, the deadline for a voter-initiated recount was Monday, Nov.
   21. That would make a lawsuit the only remaining option for initiating
   a statewide recount.
   
   Complicating any recount effort is the fact that Pennsylvania is one of
   15 states that use electronic voting machines that don't have a
   paper-backed audit.
   
   "The nightmare scenario would be if Pennsylvania decides the election
   and it is very close," Lawrence Norden, an expert on voting machines,
   told the Los Angeles Times prior to the election. "You would have no
   paper records to do a recount."

   Even if Stein were able to overcome the odds and initiate a statewide
   recount, it's doubtful Clinton would be able to overcome Trump's 70,638
   lead in Pennsylvania. From 2000 and 2015, the outcome of the election
   was changed in just three of 27 elections, according to FairVote, a
   nonpartisan electoral reform group that researches elections. The
   largest swing occurred in Florida in 2000, when 1,247 voters for George
   W. Bush were flipped to his opponent, Al Gore, which wasn't enough to
   overturn the state's results. "

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SR 1367 – Recount Crumbles – Stein-Clinton Miss PA Deadline
by Bill Still , Published on Nov 29, 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4OV-xalpOU