October surprise - the Khashoggi hoax(?)

Started by yankeedoodle, October 13, 2018, 03:50:19 PM

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yankeedoodle

We are being told that an Apple watch may have provided evidence that its wearer - Jamal Khashoggi - was supposedly tortured and killed and dismembered in the Saudi consulate in Istanbul.  BULL is right, as in BULLSHIT.  https://duckduckgo.com/?q=khashoggi+apple+phone&t=h_&ia=web

What most likely has happened, and will happen, is that  Khashoggi was taken, involuntarily, or quite possibly voluntarily - he could be an agent - back to Saudi Arabia, so that a "crisis" could be created. and this "crisis" will be used to advance the Kushner/Trump dynasty/dictatorship and propel it through the upcoming mid-term elections.

Khashoggi, detained in Saudi Arabia, creates the opportunity for a "rescue"- surprise, it's October! - that would make somebody a hero.  Most likely, it will be First Lady(?)/Queen Ivanka , who will be dressed in a burqa and sent to Saudi Arabia to show her "diplomatic skills" that would justify making her the US Ambassador to the UN.

The issue of nepotism - which has been suggested would prevent First Lady(?)/Queen Ivanka from becoming UN Ambassador - would, of course, be quickly forgotten about.

Conveniently, too, this "crisis" that is resolved by First Lady(?)/Queen Ivanka will cause such a sensation that the Kushner/Trump dynasty/dictatorship will prevail in the mid-term elections, which will be swayed by this "October surprise."

Maybe not.  But, we'll know pretty soon.




yankeedoodle

We KNOW this is what is going on, because it has been arranged for shit-for-brains shabbos goy Donnie-boy to appear on "60 Minutes."   

So says "Variety."  This is SHOW BUSINESS, folks!

Quote"They deny it. They deny it every way you can imagine. In the not too distant future I think we'll know an answer," Trump tells Stahl. 

"Not too distant future."   :lmao:  Ain't that funny!   :lmao:  How about just before the mid-term elections?  Surprise - it's OCTOBER!   :lmao:

Trump Vows 'Severe Punishment' Over Khashoggi Disappearance in '60 Minutes' Interview
https://variety.com/2018/tv/news/trump-60-minutes-jamal-khashoggi-interview-1202979446/

President Donald Trump has vowed to seek "severe punishment" if officials from Saudi Arabia are found to have been involved in the disappearance of dissident journalist Jamal Khashoggi.

Trump made the remarks in a sit-down interview with "60 Minutes" correspondent Lesley Stahl that was recorded Thursday at the White House. The President has been criticized for his failure to take a strong stand on the Khashoggi situation. The interview will air Sunday on the CBS newsmagazine.

Khashoggi was last seen Oct. 2 entering the Saudi consulate in Istanbul to handle paperwork needed for his planned marriage. Khashoggi's Turkish fiancée called police when he did not emerge from the consulate after several hours.

Trump tells Stahl that the Saudi crown prince denied any connection to Khashoggi's disappearance in a telephone call with senior White House adviser and Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner.

"They deny it. They deny it every way you can imagine. In the not too distant future I think we'll know an answer," Trump tells Stahl.

Pressed on the question of the U.S. response, Trump acknowledges that Khashoggi's status as a journalist makes the prospect of state-sponsored violence of great concern to the U.S. Trump notes that he recognizes the significance of the Saudi regime's alleged effort to silence journalists despite his own contentious relationship with many mainstream news outlets.

"There's a lot at stake, there's a lot at stake," Trump tells Stahl. "And, maybe especially so because this man was a reporter. There's something– you'll be surprised to hear me say that, there's something really terrible and disgusting about that if that was the case so we're going to  have to see. We're going to get to the bottom of it and there will be severe punishment."

At the same time, Trump also asserts that he doesn't want to halt a planned sale of arms and military equipment to the Saudis because of the impact on U.S. manufacturers. Boeing, Lockheed, Raytheon, I don't want to hurt jobs," Trump said. "I don't want to lose an order like that. And you know what, there are other ways of punishing, to use a word that's a pretty harsh word, but it's true."

The interview marks Trump's first appearance on "60 Minutes" since he sat with in November 2016 on the heels of his victory in the 2016 presidential election.



rmstock

 

What happened to Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi? | Inside Story
by Al Jazeera English , Published on Oct 10, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYcG0n3YI_8
  "On the afternoon of Tuesday October 2 2018, Jamal Khashoggi walked into
   the Saudi Arabian consulate in Istanbul.
   His fiancee who was waiting for him outside, says he never came out. "

``I hope that the fair, and, I may say certain prospects of success will not induce us to relax.''
-- Lieutenant General George Washington, commander-in-chief to
   Major General Israel Putnam,
   Head-Quarters, Valley Forge, 5 May, 1778

rmstock

#3
[vimeo]https://vimeo.com/294420820[/vimeo]
Intel Briefing - Tom Heneghan, Stew Webb (10-10-18)
by Truth Warriors , October 10, 2018 at 1:51 PM
https://vimeo.com/294420820

                                                               
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adnan_Khashoggi                                                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamal_Khashoggi

``I hope that the fair, and, I may say certain prospects of success will not induce us to relax.''
-- Lieutenant General George Washington, commander-in-chief to
   Major General Israel Putnam,
   Head-Quarters, Valley Forge, 5 May, 1778

rmstock

Here's proof, Agatha Christie is still alive (*)>  <lol> :

   https://www.businessinsider.nl/jamal-khashoggi-surveillance-footage-in-saudi-consulate-a-mystery-2018-10/?international=true&r=US
  "Khashoggi, who had been living in self-imposed exile in the US for the past year and was said to have
   feared for his life
, entered the consulate to obtain documents to finalize his divorce so he could remarry,
   the BBC reported. His fiancée said she waited outside for at least 11 hours and never saw him come out."

``I hope that the fair, and, I may say certain prospects of success will not induce us to relax.''
-- Lieutenant General George Washington, commander-in-chief to
   Major General Israel Putnam,
   Head-Quarters, Valley Forge, 5 May, 1778

yankeedoodle

#5
QuoteKhashoggi, detained in Saudi Arabia, creates the opportunity for a "rescue"- surprise, it's October! - that would make somebody a hero.  Most likely, it will be First Lady(?)/Queen Ivanka , who will be dressed in a burqa and sent to Saudi Arabia to show her "diplomatic skills" that would justify making her the US Ambassador to the UN.

As we are bombarded by fake stories about bone saws and screams, the suspense builds, and, as predicted, the name Kushner emerges as the probable "hero" who will let America sleep again.

This article discusses President/King Kushner, and he may be the one who gets the "credit" for "solving" a staged, set-up "problem," but, it is equally likely that First Lady(?)/Queen Ivanka will get the assignment, as suggested a few days ago. 

It would play into the "Saudi-reform" ruse - you know, letting woman drive, while relentlessly killing everywhere they can - if the Prince would be photographed meeting a burqa-clad Ivanka.  Imagine the excitement!  The speculation!  The rumors!   

All that would be required would be for President/King Kushner to have something "more important" to do, or, maybe he will have the flu.  [

Jared Kushner 'deeply involved' in White House response to Khashoggi's disappearance
https://www.yahoo.com/news/jared-kushner-deeply-involved-white-house-response-khashoggis-disappearance-194816674.html

WASHINGTON — With a mounting uproar over the disappearance of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi, President Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner has been playing a critical role in the White House's response to the situation, according to multiple sources.

A senior Trump administration official said Kushner has a close relationship with Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, the heir to the Saudi throne, and the pair have been in direct phone conversations about Khashoggi. These calls have been part of a White House push to get Saudi Arabia to participate in an investigation into Khashoggi's case.

Kushner's relationship with Salman has been the subject of intense scrutiny and criticism. Other sources who spoke to Yahoo News about Kushner's role in the effort provided new details about his thinking regarding the Saudi heir. All of the sources requested anonymity to discuss high-level diplomatic strategy.

One source familiar with Kushner's work said he is playing an important role in deciding how the White House will react to Khashoggi's disappearance and communicate with the Saudi government.

"He's deeply, deeply involved in what's going on," the source said of Kushner.

Khashoggi, a U.S. permanent resident and contributor to the Washington Post, went missing on Oct. 2 after going to the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul to complete paperwork needed to allow him to marry his Turkish fiancée.

Once a connected insider, Khashoggi had become an outspoken critic of the Saudi monarchy. The Turkish government, which has a tense relationship with Riyadh, has alleged that Saudi Arabia dispatched a 15-member team to kill Khashoggi while he was inside the diplomatic post. Saudi Arabia initially denied playing any role in Khashoggi's disappearance, but there have been multiple reports in the past 24 hours that the Gulf nation is preparing to say that Khashoggi died during a botched interrogation.

Khashoggi's disappearance, and what some critics have called a tepid response from the Trump administration, have led to criticism of Kushner for his close relationship with Crown Prince Mohammed bin  Salman. Kushner, whose White House portfolio includes Middle Eastern affairs and spearheading a peace plan between Israel and Palestinians, has enjoyed a closer partnership with the crown prince since Trump took office last year. Kushner was a key force behind the president's decision to make Saudi Arabia the destination for his first foreign trip in May 2017. Crown Prince Mohammed and Kushner have met for lunch at the White House and stay in regular phone contact.

Critics have accused Kushner of buying into a media narrative that Mohammed has aggressively pushed since June 2017, when the Saudi King changed the order of succession and made the crown prince heir to throne. With the help of a robust public relations operation, Mohammed cast himself as a reformer bent on modernizing Saudi Arabia, with measures that included allowing women to drive and launching an economic initiative designed to encourage tech startups and decrease the country's dependence on oil. He also visited the U.S., including California, where he hobnobbed with the elite in Silicon Valley and Hollywood.

However, even as the crown prince launched his charm offensive, Saudi Arabia carried out a brutal anticorruption drive that saw scores of business leaders jailed and journalists arrested, and led a military campaign in Yemen that has led to widespread civilian deaths.

The source familiar with Kushner's work with Saudi Arabia rejected the notion that he was taken in by Mohammed. They said Kushner was always a "pragmatist" about the Saudi prince, and never expected the country to turn into a "liberal democracy overnight."

A second source familiar with Kushner's work with Saudi Arabia said Kushner is working closely with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and national security adviser John Bolton. They described it as a coordinated effort that is leveraging Kushner's ability to connect with the crown prince over the phone. The source also pushed back on the popular notion that Kushner was the driving force behind the White House's decision to develop a strong relationship with Saudi Arabia. They said the full Trump administration thought it was a bet worth taking even though officials recognized the outcome was unclear.

A senior administration official confirmed that Kushner is playing a major role in the White House response to Khashoggi's disappearance. According to the official, the White House is focusing on pushing Saudi Arabia to conduct a full investigation with Turkish participation. That effort is being led by Trump, who is in direct talks with the Saudi king. Trump is being supported by Pompeo, Kushner and Bolton. The official said Pompeo, who flew to Saudi Arabia, is leading the way, while Bolton is coordinating with Trump and Kushner is supporting their efforts by serving as a direct line of communication to the crown prince, including phone calls between the two discussing Khashoggi.

A former White House National Security Council official said Kushner has been a "key player" in Gulf strategy since Trump took office, and that his views on Salman have undergone "an evolution" during that time. 

"Jared's been key to this from the beginning. ... When he came in, he had never dealt with this stuff before. He did have a naive understanding of this and, I think, he did buy into immediately this 'MBS' aura. You know, a 'he's another young guy like me' type of thing," the former official said. "But I think over time, Jared's come to see that he's still going to be an autocrat."

The former official, articulating a sentiment that appears to be shared by others in the White House orbit, said no one should act surprised about the Saudis killing Khashoggi.

"They've been an autocratic regime for sixty years that has beheaded people in the streets," the source said. "They're perpetrating terrible human rights abuses in Yemen."

Despite awareness about Saudi Arabia's bad behavior, a close relationship with the kingdom has emerged as a cornerstone of Trump administration policy in the Middle East. Major priorities for the White House in the region include brokering a peace deal between Israel and Palestinians, confronting the Iranian regime, terrorism funding and the situations in Syria and Yemen.

The former National Security Council official argued it would not make sense to compromise the U.S.-Saudi relationship, even if the country admits responsibility for Khashoggi's death.

"Anybody that says that we should blow up the peace plan or that we should basically blow up finally having some Middle Eastern unity over Iran — if they think we should do that over the death of one person, it's a little ridiculous," the former official said.

yankeedoodle

#6
A successful hoax deserves an RT spoof.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb-XLCCfpnA

yankeedoodle

#7
Quote from: yankeedoodle on October 13, 2018, 03:50:19 PM

What most likely has happened, and will happen, is that  Khashoggi was taken, involuntarily, or quite possibly voluntarily - he could be an agent - back to Saudi Arabia, so that a "crisis" could be created. and this "crisis" will be used to advance the Kushner/Trump dynasty/dictatorship and propel it through the upcoming mid-term elections. 

As theorized, that the Khashoggi hoax was designed as an October surprise to propel the Kushner/Trump dynasty/dictatorship, we now see - late in October - the emergence of  President/King Kushner to give his first in-depth interview about the Khashoggi hoax.

QuoteJared Kushner's critics say that, when the going gets tough for the Trump administration, Kushner goes quiet.

But on Monday, amid the ongoing uproar over a Saudi Arabian journalist's murder, Kushner unexpectedly stepped into the spotlight instead of avoiding it.   
[...]
The interview — planned before Khashoggi's death erupted into an international scandal — was conducted by Van Jones, a liberal pundit-activist whom Kushner has cultivated through his work on prison reform.

'Where is Jared?' no more: Kushner cornered on Saudi debacle
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/22/jared-kushner-saudis-926646 

Of course the interview was "planned before Khashoggi's death erupted into an international scandal," because the "scandal" was planned, as well, and the "scandal" wouldn't serve its purpose if there wasn't an also-planned-in-advance "interview," now would it?   :lmao:



yankeedoodle

Erdogan, and everybody else, knows it's a HOAX, and the shit has really hit the fan, and it's spraying all over those nice white Saudi robes!   :lmao:

QuoteWhere is Jamal Khashoggi's body, Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan asks the Saudis
https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/jamal-khashoggi-killing-wheres-the-body-erdogan-asks-the-saudis/article25334574.ece

Erdogan urges Saudis to say who ordered Khashoggi's killing; says Turkey knows more about case than it has disclosed.
Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan on October 26 urged Saudi Arabia to disclose who ordered the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi in Istanbul, as well as the location of his body, heightening international pressure on the kingdom to come clean on the case.

Mr. Erdogan said Turkey had more information than it had shared so far about the killing of Khashoggi, a prominent U.S.-based critic of powerful Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, which has pitched the world's top oil exporter and pivotal Middle East strategic partner of the West into a crisis.

The kingdom, Mr. Erdogan said, also must reveal the identity of the "local cooperator" whom Saudi officials earlier said had taken charge of Khashoggi's body from Saudi agents after his killing inside the Saudi consulate in Istanbul on October 2.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZObZNWIYDE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4e-pUkPc_c


yankeedoodle

Quote from: yankeedoodle on October 13, 2018, 03:50:19 PM
What most likely has happened, and will happen, is that  Khashoggi was taken, involuntarily, or quite possibly voluntarily - he could be an agent - back to Saudi Arabia, so that a "crisis" could be created. and this "crisis" will be used to advance the Kushner/Trump dynasty/dictatorship and propel it through the upcoming mid-term elections. 

Jamal Khashoggi's fiancee knows that the grotesque hoax that has destroyed her life is a plot to propel the Kushner/Trump dynasty/dictatorship to success in the upcoming mid-term elections, and she told Donnie-boy that she isn't a fool, and that he can go fuck himself.    <lol>

QuoteThe fiancée of murdered Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi says she has declined an invitation to the White House from US President Donald Trump, accusing him of not being sincere about investigating the killing.   

Hatice Cengiz told Turkish TV she thought the invitation was aimed at influencing public opinion in the US.

Khashoggi fiancée snubs Trump invitation to White House
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45989356