The Best Guns for Home Defense -- Mossberg 500 tops

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

I largely agree with this list... IMHO. A good, reliable sotgun is #1 hands down in CQs.

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The Best Guns for Home Defense

by Brett on July 23, 2009

in Manly Skills

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Editor's note: This is a guest post from Jon at Armslist.com.  Armslist.com is an online firearms marketplace that helps users find buyers and sellers in their local market and effect transactions in the simplest way possible.

Disclaimer: This article is aimed at helping those who are not sure where to start their research process.  It is not a definitive guide to firearms purchases.  Some of the information is generalized and all readers should conduct further research before making any decision.

Nearly every American man has heard the story of the shootout at the OK Corral.  Wyatt Earp and his cohorts confronted a group of outlaw cowboys and emerged victorious.  While much myth and mystery surrounds the circumstances of this encounter, a few things are very clear.  Wyatt Earp was proficient with his Colt Peacemaker and Doc Holiday with the shotgun. While much has changed since the days of the Wild West, both the handgun and the shotgun remain top choices for clearing out ruffians who are encroaching on your territory.

A man has always been the king of his castle and protector of his domain. When things go bump in the night, it's your job to check on things. What should you grab when you head downstairs? Today we'll the discuss the best guns for home defense as well as some of the pros and cons of each.
Training



Gun safety training is essential for every man.

Before you even think about purchasing a gun, it is imperative that you are trained on how to properly use it. Remember: guns are a weapon. With the right to bear arms comes the heavy responsibility of handling them with the precaution and respect they deserve.

Moreover, a gun in the hands of man who doesn't know what he's doing with it is a liability to him and to his family. Regardless of what you purchase, you should frequent the firing range, take a firearms course, and attend or even partake in shooting events. All of these tasks will help you to learn to properly handle firearms.

Here are some resources to check out to get started:

Appleseed Project, a grassroots marksmanship program: http://www.appleseedinfo.org/

IDPA, Defensive Pistol shooting: http://www.idpa.com/


The Best Guns for Home Defense
Pump Action Shotgun



Mossberg 500 – 12 Gauge Pump Shotgun

The general consensus in the firearms community is that the pump action shotgun is the top choice for home defense. They're relatively easy to use and nearly impossible to break. More importantly, the sound of chambering a hot round into a pump action 12 gauge is sure to soil the britches of even the most hardened criminal.

The Mossberg 500 and the Remington 870 are extremely popular choices in this category.  Both are proven to be extremely reliable for a reasonable price, beginning at around $200.

Ease of Use and Reliability

The pump action shotgun is a relatively simple weapon to use.  Shotgun shells are loaded into the gun, and the pump action chambers a round. Pulling the trigger fires the chambered round.  The next pump ejects the spent shell and loads another round into the chamber.  These attributes contribute to the pump action shotgun's reliability.

Effectiveness

Shotguns are most commonly used to fire a number of projectiles, anywhere from roughly nine pellets used in 00 buckshot up to hundreds of bb sized pellets in bird shot.  At close range and with proper ammunition, shotguns can be extremely effective in defending you and your loved ones.

For more information on different types of shot and their ballistic qualities, refer to this article.

Verdict (out of 5)

Cost: 5
Ease of Use: 4
Reliability: 5
Effectiveness: 5
Bonus: (Sound of chambering a round) (often scares "break-in" artists Sh*tless when heard--known first hand encounters... -- CSR)
Overall: 4.75


Revolver

Smith & Wesson 686 .357 Mag 4″, 6 round

The next best weapon for home defense is the revolver.  Revolvers are the simplest and most reliable of hand guns.  One of the major advantages of the revolver is its small size which allows for easy storage and access.  Also, another benefit of the revolver is its price. You can find quality revolvers for as little as a few hundred dollars.

Ease of Use & Reliability

Revolvers are produced in double action and single action varieties.  Single action revolvers require the user to pull back the hammer manually before firing the gun.  Most modern revolvers offer double action operation which alleviates the need to pull back the hammer before firing the weapon. While there are advantages to using a single-action revolver, the double-action revolver is the superior choice for home defense because of its ease of use. When an intruder has entered your home, you don't want to have to think about cocking a gun.

Because of it's simple design, the revolver is an extremely reliable weapon. Unlike semi-automatic weapons, it is nearly impossible for a revolver to jam. If there is a round in the cylinder of a double-action revolver, pulling the trigger will fire the gun.  Simple as that. This simplicity is an important factor for use in already stressful situations.

One drawback on revolvers, or any handgun for that matter, is the skill required to properly and effectively operate them. Don't be fooled by your hours of playing Duck Hunt. Hitting a target, even if it's just a few feet away, is deceptively difficult.

Effectiveness

Handguns are produced in a number of different calibers and the stopping power is dependent upon which round is used. Common choices are .38 Special (also available in a slightly stronger "+P" variety), .357 Magnum, .44 Magnum, and .45 Long Colt.  One advantage to buying a .357 revolver is that the owner can use .38 special, .38 special +P, or .357 magnum rounds as the gun accepts and safely fires all of them.  (Conversely, a .38 revolver cannot fire .357 magnum.)

It's important to consider that larger caliber revolvers may be more difficult to fire accurately in quick succession.  Unfortunately, smaller caliber revolvers may lack the stopping power necessary to quickly incapacitate an attacker.


Visual comparison of common handgun cartridges. Left to right:




1) 3 inch 12 ga magnum shotgun shell
2) AA battery (for size comparison)
3) .454 Casull
4) .45 Winchester Magnum
5) .44 Remington Magnum
6) .357 Magnum
7) .38 Special
.45 ACP
9) .38 Super
10) 9 mm Luger
11) .32 ACP
12) .22 LR

Verdict
Cost:4
Ease of Use: 3
Reliability: 5
Effectiveness: 3
Overall: 3.75


Semi-Automatic pistols

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Les Baer Premier II 1911

Every AoM reader has seen these in movies and TV shows. They're also the guns that most police officers carry. While semi-automatic pistols might be good for cops, they're not a good choice for one's first firearm purchase, at least not when home defense is the primary use. We'll go into why that is further below.

Two iconic semi-automatic pistols are the 1911 variants and polymer pistols such as Glocks. The 1911 has seen action through two world wars and is still in use by US Special Operations and FBI HRT. Glocks have been heralded for their ease of use and reliability and have seen much use in law enforcement. Quality semi-automatic pistols can cost as little as a few hundred or as much as a few thousand.

Ease of Use and Reliability

The operation of a semi-automatic handgun is more complicated than a revolver.  An operator must become familiar with operating slide-stops and safeties, loading magazines, chambering rounds and clearing jams.  The additional actions involved make it less than ideal for those unfamiliar with hand guns.  This, combined with the skill required to accurately shoot a handgun, means that semi-automatic handguns are the least user friendly of the choices mentioned.

Because rounds are automatically loaded and the design is more complex, semi-automatic weapons are also more prone to jamming failures than revolvers.

Because of the semi-automatic handgun's lower reliability and more complicated operation, first time purchasers should probably consider a shotgun or a revolver.

Effectiveness

As with revolvers, effectiveness varies drastically with caliber.  There are many different calibers for semi-automatic handguns. The most common are .380 ACP, 9mm, .357 Sig, .40 S&W, and .45 ACP.  The 9mm is perhaps the most popular caliber, in use by military and law enforcement around the world. The .40 S&W was created by the FBI to allow for additional stopping power over the 9mm.  The 45 ACP came about during the development of the 1911.


Verdict
Cost: 3
Ease of Use: 2
Reliability: 3
Effectiveness: 3
Overall: 2.75
Conclusion

This article is aimed at providing a starting place for those that lack prior knowledge of and experience with firearms.  Again, proper education, training, and practice are essential when deciding to purchase a gun.

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[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

Good time to buy weapons before inflation and other unknown (Jew) causes drive up the price of ammunitions and arms.

[Wimpy]

Mossberg Pump Action Shotguns (Mossberg 500) are probably the best deal out there and are rather well made.  I prefer 00 Buck Shot mixed up with Slugs; I like 000 Buck shot too but it's not as commonly available in gun stores, at least where I shop.  An awesome home defense weapon!  

If you stay with 2-3/4 inch 12 Gauge shells rather than 3" shells you can stuff more into the Mossberg.  Who knows, you might need one or two more rounds.  Remember to take the Duck Plug out first, which limits you to 3 shots.  Without it, you can put one in the chamber and five in the tube magazine (2-3/4 inch shells).

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Mossberg Pump Action Shotguns (Mossberg 500) are probably the best deal out there and are rather well made.  I prefer 00 Buck Shot mixed up with Slugs; I like 000 Buck shot too but it's not as commonly available in gun stores, at least where I shop.  An awesome home defense weapon! 

If you stay with 2-3/4 inch 12 Gauge shells rather than 3" shells you can stuff more into the Mossberg.  Who knows, you might need one or two more rounds.  Remember to take the Duck Plug out first, which limits you to 3 shots.  Without it, you can put one in the chamber and five in the tube magazine (2-3/4 inch shells).

Hey Wimpy.
Funny you say that, I have  Bird,  Buck 00, Slug, Slug in my Remington 870.  A great piece that is just about as good as Mossberg 500 but not as "tactical". I took out the duck plug but don't keep one chambered.

I figure "the bird is the word"  and if they want to step it up ... then "let's go for the 00" ... and keep if they want to keep it up for the "slugs" well...that's their last choice.   I have a bandolier on my stock that's 2 Buck 00 and 3 slugs.  Slugs are nasty stuff that can kill a bear.    <!-- s:) --><!-- s:) -->

http://www.city-data.com/forum/alaska/3 ... rms-5.html

The Saiga-12 auto with a large clip of slugs is really impressive.

[Wimpy]

Funny you say that, I have Bird, Buck 00, Slug, Slug in my Remington 870.

Yes Sir, tactical thinking is a must!

[Fulcrum]

Wimpy wrote:
Mossberg Pump Action Shotguns (Mossberg 500) are probably the best deal out there and are rather well made.

Sill only $200 bucks at Walmart !!!! got one the other day.

[Wimpy]

[SimonOfTRrent]

Im partial to the Remignton 870 (Wingmaster) and the Browning BPS (Forged steel) myself.
Mossbergs are a no frills gun, but they have had problems at times,
It is an alloy manufactured gun as opposed to steel, which makes it lighter, but not as sturdy, so to speak.

You pay for quality, one time.  
Certainly one could do alot worse, but one could also do alot better for an additional $150-200

[Wimpy]

Im partial to the Remignton 870 (Wingmaster) and the Browning BPS (Forged steel) myself.
Mossbergs are a no frills gun, but they have had problems at times,
It is an alloy manufactured gun as opposed to steel, which makes it lighter, but not as sturdy, so to speak.

You pay for quality, one time.  
Certainly one could do alot worse, but one could also do alot better for an additional $150-200

I have no argument, however, my primary reason for not purchasing the Remington is the parent ownership of the company by "Freedom Arms" which is no other than jew owned  "Cerberus Capital Management".   Recall the day after Sandy Hook when the Freedom Arms   owned "Bushmaster" announced they would stop selling the AR-15 Bushmaster?  I didn't purchase a Bushmaster for the same reason - it's called a boycott.

[SimonOfTRrent]

Im partial to the Remignton 870 (Wingmaster) and the Browning BPS (Forged steel) myself.
Mossbergs are a no frills gun, but they have had problems at times,
It is an alloy manufactured gun as opposed to steel, which makes it lighter, but not as sturdy, so to speak.

You pay for quality, one time.  
Certainly one could do alot worse, but one could also do alot better for an additional $150-200

I have no argument, however, my primary reason for not purchasing the Remington is the parent ownership of the company by "Freedom Arms" which is no other than jew owned  "Cerberus Capital Management".   Recall the day after Sandy Hook when the Freedom Arms   owned "Bushmaster" announced they would stop selling the AR-15 Bushmaster?  I didn't purchase a Bushmaster for the same reason - it's called a boycott.

I had no idea.

I dont favor the newer Remingtons anway, they are cheaply made by comparison, to those made in the 1960s/70s.
But the older ones are gems. (Sarco has them for $225)

Cohen a Jew CEO, did the same thing to Kimber, ruining their Quality, AS IS doing the Same thing To SIG now!!
And Yes,  To HELL with Bushmaster or any other PC gun  production co.s caving to PC pressure.

Why in the hell dont they are the NRA question the 911 False flag of gun control,  aka Sandy Hook Nose?

[Fulcrum]

Just racked the 500 next to my 25 year old BPS field model. no comparison but still a good backup and the girl can trap shoot with me now without having to share. she's a natural!!! broke more clays than me a few times. :oops:

[abduLMaria]

Best Gun - in a Gun Control state, e.g. California.

semi-auto shotgun ... if they make that illegal, a nail gun ?


Best Gun - in a 2A state.

308 with second generation Hollow Point - e.g. Barnes copper bullet, or Speer Gold Dot.

"if you break it, you bought it".

it's VERY VERY important to think about the details ... what will you do with a dead body ?  what if one of your neighbors hear the gunshots & call the cops ? ... one reason to buy a suppressor.


https://palmettostatearmory.com/

/\  one of the better firearms manufacturers & etailers.

They had a lot of shotguns.  Reduced availability during Covid19.

[abduLMaria]

One of the better Calibers for AR15 - 300 Ham'r.

300 Ham'r is what the 300 Blackout should of been.

300 Ham'r is about 1/5 inch longer, i.e. 1/2 a centimeter.

https://www.wilsoncombat.com/300-hamr/

The 300 Blackout maxes out at about 20 grains of powder.  You can fit 22.5 grains if you use a tool to compress the first 3/4 of the load, to create room for the rest of the load.  Otherwise it would overflow.

With the 300 Ham'r, that's not necessary.

300 Ham'r shoots accurately at 300 yards, and TBD at 400 yards.

The 300 Ham'r, 300 Blackout, and 5.56/223 are all able to take advantage of the High-Capacity Magazines made for 5.56.

[abduLMaria]

Pic of 300 Ham'r with 6 pounds of weights on the rail, to reduce recoil.