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Message 61 - posted by awakeHuman (U13672623) **, 20 Hours Ago
Just beasue I and most jewish scholars do not belive 6 million died does not make me a denier.

Name me one so called holocaust denier that actully denies it!

None. Its a term used to smear people as you are trying to do here .



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Message 62 - posted by Rosie IV (U2959985) , 19 Hours Ago
Sun, 07 Dec 2008 17:47 GMT, in reply to awakeHuman in message 61

    Just beasue [SIC] I and most jewish scholars do not belive [SIC] 6 million died does not make me a denier.

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1 - Oh yes it does. It most definitely does.

2 - *MOST* Jewish scholars? *MOST*?? *MOST* *JEWISH* *SCHOLARS* ?

Are you implying that most Jewish scholars are Holocaust deniers? Because if you are, that is a libelous statement.

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Message 63 - posted by awakeHuman (U13672623) **, 3 Hours Ago
Look Rosie, I don't want a fight, but really most Jewish scholars do agree that 6 millions didn't die.

And saying that less died doesn't make you a "holocaust denier."

On April 18, 1945, in the immediate aftermath of World War II, The New York Times reported that 4 million people died at Auschwitz.

on January 26, 1995, commemorating the 50th anniversary of the Auschwitz liberation, both The Washington Post and The New York Times itself reported that the Polish authorities had determined that, at most, 1.5 million people (of all races and religions)-not "4 million"-died at Auschwitz of all causes, including natural causes.

Franciszek Piper, director of the historical committee of the Auschwitz-Birkenau Museum, said yesterday that, according to recent research, at least 1.3 million people were deported to the camp, of whom about 223,000 survived.

Shmuel Krakowsky, head of research at Israel's Yad Vashem memorial for Jewish victims of the Holocaust, said the new Polish figures were correct: "The 4 million figure was let slip by Capt. Rudolf Hoess, the death camp's Nazi commander. Some have bought it, but it was exaggerated." . . . Plaques commemorating the deaths of 4 million victims were removed from the Auschwitz museum and ones stating 1.1 million were put in the place.

as the offical Auschwith memoerial museum tells us here;

en.auschwitz.org.pl/...

So by your rekoning the ofiical Auschwith memoerial museum is also a "nazi" and a "holocaust denier."

PLease understand that war time propaganda is a powerful tool to shape the future.

I, for one, am overjoyed that six million Jews did not die in WW2 and so should you be being Jewish.

Its a cause for celebration to find out that 4 million of your kind survived!

think about it, it is you wishing that 6 million were dead, seems a little strange, do you understand me now?

Just because I stand against Israel which I see as a beacon of coppresson and occupation, does not make me an anti-semite or "jew hater."

like I say I do not hate anyone, apart from those in power Jewish and Gentile that I see corrupting and destroying our world.

Peace and best wishes to you Rosie. Hope we can come to some common ground here.

oki.

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Message 64 - posted by A_Hart (U1644920) , 2 Hours Ago
AwakeHuman, you just don't get it do you?

The significance of the Holocaust is that the Nazis had the ultimate aim of exterminating an ethnic group (well two or three really). And that they put this aim into policy and started actioning it.

As a result Jews were first ghettoised wherever the Nazis were in control, and then rounded up in raids for transport to slave labour camps and ultimately the death camps. Every stage was one of brutality, designed to cause maximum humiliation and suffering to individuals.

You are making a great thing of the death camp at Auschwitz "only" killing a million and a half Jews. Now pause for a moment with the thought that Auschwitz was an absolute abomination in principle - where else has a state designed and built a mass extermination centre, to kill humans in cold blood simply as a government policy? Now move on to recognise that Auschwitz was merely the visible tip of the iceberg.

At the very first stage Jews were denied medical care, and access to sufficient food - solely because they were Jews. Then they were picked up in brutal raids, which usually involved the more lunatic Nazis being given free rein to shoot at the slightest provocation and use boots, fists and rfile butts as a matter of course, solely because they were Jews. Then transported in conditions guaranteed to cause deaths from exposure or suffocation, particularly with weakened individuals, solely because they were Jews. Then subjected to foreced labour on meagre rations, solely because they were Jews.

If you still wonder why there is a 4 million discrepancy between the records at Auschwitz and the number of Jews that disappeared then frankly you either have no imagination or you have a rather nasty axe to grind.

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Message 65 - posted by awakeHuman (U13672623) **, 2 Hours Ago
Im sorry A_hart I was asked eairlier in this thread to prove it by Rosie so I have, using offical sources.

Theres also no evidence of the camps being extermination camps unfortunately.(i.e gas chambers)

They were concentration camps.

As Jewish historian David cole proved it here;

David Cole Interviews Dr. Franciszek Piper, Director, Auschwitz State Museum;

video.google.co.uk/v...

I don't see how getting the truth out or wanting to discover the truth is having a nasty axe to grind?

If I was investigating the communist terror (which I also have interest in) there would be no problem.

Why is this.

Why the dogma?

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Message 66 - posted by Rosie IV (U2959985) , 1 Hour Ago
Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:27 GMT, in reply to awakeHuman in message 65

Actually what I keep asking you and you keep refusing to answer, is what your name was before your reincarnation as awakeHuman.

Because you keep on repeating the same statistics, using the same references, as another poster did before you appeared as awakeHuman.

Therefore I can only assume that you have something to hide.

I am not interested in your incorrect references, and in response to your comment in message 63

    Peace and best wishes to you Rosie. Hope we can come to some common ground here.

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Much as I pray for peace, the idea of "best wishes" from a Holocaust denier, an Israel hater and a Jew hater appalls me. It is insulting and offensive to me, as a Jew, an Israeli, and as a second generation Holocaust survivor.

Reaching some common ground? Hell will freeze over first.

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Message 67 - posted by A_Hart (U1644920) , 1 Hour Ago
There is no dogma AwakeHuman, just that when you have have encountered first hand evidence, speculative histories like the videos you link to are less impressive.

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Message 68 - posted by awakeHuman (U13672623) **, 1 Hour Ago
smiley ok well, think what you like Rosie, the facts are there for when you can bring yourself to them.You obviously have no intention of any serious research inot the event with you shout most loudly about.

No more shall be said on the matter.

I've expalined my position very well,giving numurous truthful links to back up my view, and that Im not "denying" anything per se, and you have skirting round the facts as usual, and resorting to your name calling.

so be it.


peacedove








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Message 69 - posted by awakeHuman (U13672623) **, 1 Hour Ago
and by the way, I really think you must be confusing me with some one else, as Ive not posted on this or any other BBC forum before.

Maybe it's another "holocaust denier" I hear theres a lot of them about these days.


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