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Ognir

Canada halts parliament amid row

Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper has won a bid to suspend parliament, blocking an opposition attempt to topple his new government.

The governor general agreed to Mr Harper's request, unprecedented in the country, after talks.

If the request had been rejected, he would have had to step down or face a confidence vote he was sure to lose.

Opposition parties had called the vote for Monday, accusing the government of failing to shore up the economy.

Governor General Michaelle Jean agreed to prorogue - or suspend - parliament until 27 January when the government is set to present its budget.

Ms Jean - the representative of head of state Queen Elizabeth - has the right to make a final decision on such matters.

"Today's decision will give us an opportunity - I'm talking about all the parties - to focus on the economy and work together," Mr Harper was quoted as saying by AP news agency after the meeting.

The Conservatives immediately shut down Parliament, ending all debate.

The head of the main Liberal opposition party, Stephane Dion, said he was still committed to bringing down Mr Harper's government.

"This is about replacing Stephen Harper unless he makes a monumental change of what he has done up to now," he said.

"Up to now, we don't believe he will change."

'Uncharted territory'

A prime minister's request to temporarily suspend parliament had never been turned down, but nor had such a request been made when the government was certain to lose a confidence vote.

"There is no precedent whatsoever in Canada and probably in the Commonwealth," constitutional expert Ned Franks told AP news agency. "We are in uncharted territory."

The prime minister's manoeuvre comes at the end of a week of unprecedented political drama, says the BBC's Lee Carter in Toronto.

The constitutional crisis was triggered last week after the Conservatives presented a fiscal update that was angrily rejected by the opposition parties for not including an economic stimulus package and for proposing cuts to the public financing of political parties.

The Liberals and New Democrats signed a deal to defeat Mr Harper in a confidence vote scheduled for Monday and form a coalition government.

Mr Harper's Conservatives won a strengthened minority in the 14 October election but are outnumbered in parliament by the combination of the Liberal Party, the New Democratic Party and the Bloc Quebecois.

Ms Jean cut short a trip to Europe on Wednesday and flew back to Ottawa in an effort to deal with the growing political crisis after the three opposition parties formally advised her of their plan.

Ms Jean's other options were to have called a general election if the confidence vote went ahead and Mr Harper lost, or to have asked the opposition to form a new government.

'Backroom deal'

In a televised appeal on Wednesday, Mr Harper said the opposition pact was a threat to the country's democracy and economy.

"At a time like this, a coalition with separatists cannot help Canada," he said, referring to the Bloc's desire for independence for Quebec.

"Tonight, I pledge to you that Canada's government will use every legal means at our disposal to protect our democracy, to protect our economy and to protect Canada."

Mr Harper called the opposition parties' power-sharing agreement a "backroom deal".

Liberal leader Stephane Dion said the suspension of parliament would only delay the inevitable.

"If Mr Harper wants to suspend parliament he must face a vote of confidence," Mr Dion said in a televised address of his own on Wednesday.

"The Harper Conservatives have lost the confidence of the majority of members of the House of Commons. In our democracy, in our parliamentary system, in our constitution this means that they have lost the right to govern," he added.

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Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/a ... 765206.stm
Most zionists don't believe that God exists, but they do believe he promised them Palestine

- Ilan Pappe

joeblow

Quote from: "Ognir"Governor General Michaelle Jean agreed ... the representative of head of state Queen Elizabeth

I have a question for the Canadian TiUers, is Alex Jones right that the Borg Queen still owns Canada? I'm not being silly or rude, I'm asking this conspiracy enthusiast to conspiracy enthusiast.

Ognir

Actually belongs to the Crown,  group of 12 Jewish Families, the Queen is only a figurehead
Most zionists don't believe that God exists, but they do believe he promised them Palestine

- Ilan Pappe

Anonymous

"governor general" is Queen's representative (Crowns rep) in Canada.  LOL.  And we think our country is free from outside control.  Why did it have to be "approved" by this governor general who represents old world system control?  More confusing trinkets for the masses to double think their way out of.

mobes

Quote from: "aZiXx""governor general" is Queen's representative (Crowns rep) in Canada.  LOL.  And we think our country is free from outside control.  Why did it have to be "approved" by this governor general who represents old world system control?  More confusing trinkets for the masses to double think their way out of.

Countries that have Presidents are known as Corporations. Canada is not a corporation, it is still a colony of Britain. this is why we have a Prime Minister instead of a President.

It turns out that Michaelle Jean was on a European tour during this political 'crisis'....

Here's where she went:

Nov 17, 2008 10:20 ET
Governor General to Lead State Visit to Four European Countries

OTTAWA, ONTARIO--(Marketwire - Nov. 17, 2008) - At the request of the Right Honourable Stephen Harper, Prime Minister of Canada, Her Excellency the Right Honourable Michaelle Jean, Governor General of Canada, along with her husband, His Excellency Jean-Daniel Lafond, will make a State visit to the Republic of Hungary, the Slovak Republic, the Czech Republic and the Republic of Slovenia, from November 24 to December 6, 2008.

This State visit will highlight, among other things, democratic transition in the four countries, our historic and cultural ties, our growing trade relationships, and our joint participation in NATO missions, especially the reconstruction efforts in Afghanistan.

A delegation of Canadians representing a variety of fields-including diversity and governance; minority integration; arts and culture; civic engagement; youth; and the rules of law and freedoms-will play an active role in Their Excellencies' meetings with civil society.

"This visit will be an opportunity to recognize the remarkable strides these four countries have made since the end of the last century," remarked the Governor General. "It will also give us the chance to reinforce and strengthen our ties and alliances in Europe, especially with the European Union."

State visits by governors general play an important role in Canada's relations with other countries.

Information about members of the Canadian delegation is available at www.gg.ca. Blogs written by Their Excellencies and the delegates will be posted on www.citizenvoices.gg.ca.

The detailed itinerary for the State visit (local time) is available at the following address: http://media3.marketwire.com/docs/ang.pdf

http://www.marketwire.com/press-release ... 21283.html

kolnidre

Quote from: "mobes"A delegation of Canadians representing a variety of fields-including diversity and governance; minority integration; arts and culture; civic engagement; youth; and the rules of law and freedoms-will play an active role in Their Excellencies' meetings with civil society.

Holy crap, that's like an all-star team of political correctness under the Communitarian model, which in my reading is shadow Talmudic law.

Notice how there is an increasingly visible discussion/phony debate on "freedoms versus law" or security, etc. This is simply another dialectic established to erode freedom and condition everyone to be subjects under Communitarian law, which uses such devices as "sustainability" to get into everyone's business and punish anyone that gets out of line. To borrow the title of a recent YT video, it's all about "living someone else's life."
Take heed to yourself lest you make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither you go, lest it become a snare in the midst of you.
-Exodus 34]

Anonymous

[googlevid-:z2riaohq]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-594427259151866285[/googlevid-:z2riaohq]

On how we are legally (not lawfully) corporate entities, but I forget if Canada is also a corporation under the Crown, which I believe it is, if not only us people.  Memory not clear, as I watched it in March-April.  So I could be wrong about his presentation on Canada being a corporation.  Quite informative presentation.

Peace.

kolnidre

Quote from: "aZiXx"On how we are legally (not lawfully) corporate entities, but I forget if Canada is also a corporation under the Crown, which I believe it is, if not only us people.

Thanks for the video link. Will check it out.

My take on the US as concerns the Constitution and the law, in a nutshell:
1. The Constitution is a contract between the states and the United States, which is the corporate headquarters
2. Citizens are contracted to the state and are no longer "natural persons" under the law
3. Corporations have the same rights as humans, i.e. "legal persons."

The first point is the most important and explains why the Constitution is no defense against the treasonous activity of the corporate headquarters, federal gov't, and its bankster partners in crime.
Take heed to yourself lest you make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither you go, lest it become a snare in the midst of you.
-Exodus 34]

§N9sh2bj

January 27th will be too late.

Canada - welcome to autocratic rule under Mr. Harper (or, rather, his boss).

AKA America - Obama.
moved on.
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and believes \'jewish culture\' is mostly one of supporting their organized crime syndicates, with a enough veneer and an organized system of destroying and reshaping other cultures, to obfuscate the truth to most people.

jai_mann

Hey all. These SOB's at the top need to be eliminated. There's no "rehabbing" them and there's no making deals with them. Any way check this video out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVg4vA8mraA . So this guy breaks down how the corporate investing works with "government" agencies in England. This applies in America too. We are evidently under the influence of the crown and ultimately (big fucking surprise at this point, Talmudic Jews). I'm in California. Look at this --> https://smallbusiness.dnb.com/webapp/wc ... okup#goTop

That's right. The SOB's formally known as the California Highway Patrol through out the state are open for investments. The investor gives them principle, statutes are passed/enforced whereby money is extorted(pay or get shot or land in prison or live on the run) to pay the investors on their investment. From what I can tell the court's are in on it too. I haven't looked into it further but it explains the "admiralty law" shtick.

I have come across evidence that the Federal US gov ceased to exist under FDR due to bankruptcy (great depression period) in 1933 at which point the bankers installed the corporate approach to functioning.

 :evil:

jai_mann

Web site describing and listing huge list of US "Government" entities which are bought and traded as corporations including, office of the pres., us dept. of commerce, UNITED STATES ARMY, and about every fucking thing people think of as government.

http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data ... 1206566557

My searches for California highway patrol and maryland state police now return errors. I think my ip/computer identifiers have gotten all of my searches shitlisted. Save any pages you search, find, and view and share them please.