David Emory's "Underground Reich" is Jewish

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

In a really weird way, this guy's crap on the Nazis actually gives criminal Israelis cover.  It's totally obvious to anyone with thinking brain. Secret Nazis directing Jewish Gangsters? This is crap. Sounds like AJ may have leveraged this crap to hide Israeli criminality globally (...just blame it on the Secret Nazis) - The CSR.


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A self-described "anti-fascist," Emory has since the 1980s produced, written and hosted several radio programs: The Guns of November, Miscellaneous Archive Shows, One Step Beyond and Anti-Fascist Archives (formerly Radio Free America). During the 2000s, Emory's For the Record series has aired every Monday on KKUP in San Jose, Tuesday on WFMU in Jersey City, the early a.m. hours Thursday on KPFK in Los Angeles, Thursdays and Fridays on KFJC in Los Altos Hills, California, and Fridays on WCBN in Ann Arbor. Descriptions and summaries of For The Record programs are archived and maintained by SpitfireList.com [1]. Audio archives are maintained by WFMU.

Programs consist of two 30-minute monologues or telephone interviews on one or more topics, including Fascism, Corporatism, genocide, the Cold War, Fifth column movements, international banking scandals. Recurring topics also include the Kennedy assassination and its alleged relations to the FBI, George H. W. Bush, Richard Nixon and the Watergate scandal, German-controlled industry and banking, the Muslim Brotherhood, 9/11, the Bush family and its business connections to the Osama Bin Laden family and the Third Reich (through Senator Prescott Bush), the P-2 Lodge, disinformation, mind control and cults. Interview guests include writer Kevin Coogan, Nazi-hunter and author John Loftus, author Sterling Seagrave, freelance journalist and 2004 presidential candidate John Buchanan, and investigative journalists Lucy Komisar and Robert Parry .

 "The Underground Reich"

Emory frequently propounds the existence of an "Underground Reich" as a central feature of his broader theses. An entity which maintains the long-term interests of German-based multinational conglomerates, it includes heavy industry, chemicals, communications, as well as international shipping, banking and financial interests. Emory contends that the many units which make up the "Underground Reich," having survived World War II, persist and flourish as major components the current global capital elite.

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David Emory

For years, Mr. Emory has spoken of "the Underground Reich," which he describes as (literally) a clandestine Third Reich. In this broadcast, he documents some of the key features of this Underground Reich, drawing largely on excerpts from past taped programs. Beginning with a 1953 coup attempt in Germany by former Goebbels aide Werner Naumann, the program highlights what author T.H. Tetens described as a "Fuehringsring," a system of Mafia-like control permitting Nazi administration of the Federal Republic of Germany. Realized by virtue of a network of small, underground cells, this control mechanism afforded a Nazi government-in-exile in Madrid and in Latin America and effective governance of the "new" Germany through the many "former" Nazi officials who held positions in its government.

The program includes a reading of a circular letter generated by the Nazi governing council in 1950, which evaluates the world situation at that period in time. Next, the program reviews material about the Bormann organization - the economic component of the Underground Reich.

The Bormann group controls corporate Germany, the economies of Europe, South America and much of the rest of the world. It also wields decisive political control over the Federal Republic of Germany. This program highlights Reichsleiter Martin Bormann's consummate exercise of political clout in the then-West Germany of 1971. Bormann summoned West German President Walter Scheel (himself a former Nazi party member) and his wife to Bolivia, so that they could take charge of a boy named Simon Martin (almost certainly a child of Bormann's old age) to be raised as part of German elite society.

The program also sets forth the critical role in world affairs played by SS General Heinrich Mueliler (the war-time head of the Gestapo and the feared security director of the Bormann organization.) In addition to handling the security of the Reich-in-exile, Mueller worked with Reinhard Gehlen's intelligence service. (The director of intelligence for the Eastern Front during World War II, Gehlen jumped to the CIA, NATO and, finally, the Federal Republic of Germany with his organization. That organization (according to Colonel William Corson, formely of U.S. Army Intelligence and an adviser to the Church Committee in the 1970's) was simply "a front for ODESSA Nazis". Indeed, the program documents the fact that, even after he went to work for the United States, Gehlen was clearing his actions with Admiral Von Doenitz (who, nominally, succeeded Hitler), as well as General Franz Halder (his former chief-of-staff). As noted by author Carl Oglesby, this indicated that the German chain of command was still in effect, even when Gehlen was officially working for the U.S.

The broadcast also documents the collaboration between the CIA and the Bormann group. The program concludes with a look at connections between the Gehlen ODESSA milieu and Helene Van Damme, the woman who compiled the lists from which Ronald Reagan made his cabinet appointments. Van Damme was a protege of SS officer Otto Von Bolschwing, Adolf Eichmann's superior in administering the extermination of European Jewry. Von Bolschwing became a key operative of U.S. intelligence in the post-war period. Van Damme's relationship to Von Bolschwing suggests the distinct possibility that the Reagan Administration was, in effect, a front for the Underground Reich! (Recorded on 11/7/99.)

http://spitfirelist.com/?p=1714

[high_treason]

He probably forgot to mention Hermann Goering (von Epstein) or the Jewish Hitlers running around Israel.

[§N9sh2bj]

I listened to dave's dis-info a ages ago. the guys a crack. a crackpot. no better than alex, just somewhat less annoying verbally. I can read body language well, including tone of voice. When dave tried to bring up suggesting the leaders of israel (not to mention the people behind them) were behind the problems, so he could laugh it off, it was a dead give-away.

He'll talk on and on about his 'Fascist international'.

I'll say it again and I've said it many times: AshkeNAZI.

It's a joke on you if you think they were pure germanic folk with no jewish blood who came up with race rules and just decided to build a huge military on their own. I'm not saying there weren't assholes among them. Though I'm done with the wanking emotionally immature wanna-be fascists who pour over images of a short, brown-haired, brown-eyed, non-teutonic austrian-born jew from a polish ghetto family, whose grandfather was a wealthy piece of shit, who made a lot of mistakes in his life and was a failure like lenin in his natural courses, took a lot of money through the warburgs, then was corralled because of his malleability and utter immaturity into burning germany down, taking the deaths of many more with him.

Hitler was an asshole. Anyone providing cover for the criminals is no better than the turd at the top and deserves a noose or perhaps merciful segregation for the rest of their life. Killing them makes us better? Not so sure about that.

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Though I'm done with the wanking emotionally immature wanna-be fascists who pour over images of a short, brown-haired, brown-eyed, non-teutonic austrian-born jew from a polish ghetto family, whose grandfather was a wealthy piece of shit, who made a lot of mistakes in his life and was a failure like lenin in his natural courses, took a lot of money through the warburgs, then was corralled because of his malleability and utter immaturity into burning germany down, taking the deaths of many more with him.

Well §N9sh2bj,

As long as films like "Triumph of the Will" still play and the Jews are still active meddling on the international stage,  I don't think these pro-N.S. types are going away anytime soon.

1. 1 Million German civilians starved to death 1918 to 1919 due to the Allied blockade.  
2. Jewish Communists did try to overthrow the country.
3. Hitler and the National Socialists did restore security and order within Germany internally.
4. Hitler was not Jewish
5. Jewish Financiers did try and rape Germany from 1922-1932.
6. Jews did declare war on Germany
7. Stalin's USSR had built up a massive invasion force in 1941 and was ready to unleash it on Western Europe.

Like I've said before, I think Hitler was a genuine Nationalist -  a German Napoleon. I do think that at some point compromised members of the N.S. party were used by Jewish Financiers to derail the mission and lead Germany into conflict.  This was all orchestrated for end goal of creating the nation of Israel for the Jews.  The Ramsey's book, "The Unnecessary War" only proves this for me.

The most people that died in WWII were German and Russian Goyim - precisely the people the Jews feared could obstruct their plans.

[high_treason]

CSR, I disagree with you regarding Hitler being a Napoleon. This source I'm giving you is mainstream he is doesn't name the Judeofascists but he does say International bankers, he gives you facts and figures with numbers and names. The book was featured by Jim Condit Jr. on his Hitler DVD

http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/

Here is also a documentry about it from 1980

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 8075230852

Notice in Chapter 1....JP Morgan financing the Nazi party

1. Yes they did and millions more died due to war and another Allied concentration camp
2. Hitler was part of the Spartacus movement and the Rosa Luxomberg crowd before he turned N.S.
3. The Nazis would have never had a chance to taking Germany without the unlimited money from the International bankers
4. He was!....His nephew is a Jew living in Israel, his sister protected Jews in Germany, his great grandmother worked for a Rothschild during the period where she conceived, his 2nd in command was also a Jew (Göring), he had a Jewish relative visit him in Germany and his famous quote "I'm from the volk (people)"
5. They raped it even more under the Nazi war economy
6. It was staged like the wars before it
7. Thats not true, Stalin was the biggest aid of the Germans prior to WW2, the Germans learned how to build and operate tanks in Soviet Russia, the Molotov agreement gave Russia more lands than they needed, especially that Stalin was anti-continuous revolution unlike Trotsky. Stalin never expected a war as soon as 1941, he was just done with the purges of his best generals if it wasn't for Zhukov Russia would have been lost. Plus when the news of the attack came he refused to believe it for weeks because he saw Germany as an ally and not an enemy, his plan for modernizing the Soviet Union and building a powerful army was going to be completed by 1944/5. 1941 Russia was not ready for anything they had their asses kicked in Finland during the winter war and most of the soldiers didn't have enough ammunition. I could go on and on about this point but I think what I mentioned is enough.

So I have to disagree with you on Hitler

[Mac Seafraidh]

BTW, Beethoven, Mozart, and Wagner also are Jews. :roll:

None of you will ever convince or convert my decision that most National Socialists were not Jewish. To me, whoever makes up these lies is one sick individual.  

And Göring? How absurd! Too many loony tunes spreading absolute shit and adding more crap to the Jewish Question that does not actually exist.

A self-described "anti-fascist," Emory has since the 1980s produced, written and hosted several radio programs: The Guns of November, Miscellaneous Archive Shows, One Step Beyond and Anti-Fascist Archives (formerly Radio Free America). During the 2000s, Emory's For the Record series has aired every Monday on KKUP in San Jose, Tuesday on WFMU in Jersey City, the early a.m. hours Thursday on KPFK in Los Angeles, Thursdays and Fridays on KFJC in Los Altos Hills, California, and Fridays on WCBN in Ann Arbor. Descriptions and summaries of For The Record programs are archived and maintained by SpitfireList.com [1]. Audio archives are maintained by WFMU [2].

Programs consist of two 30-minute monologues or telephone interviews on one or more topics, including Fascism, Corporatism, genocide, the Cold War, Fifth column movements, international banking scandals. Recurring topics also include the Kennedy assassination and its alleged relations to the FBI, George H. W. Bush, Richard Nixon and the Watergate scandal, German-controlled industry and banking, the Muslim Brotherhood, 9/11, the Bush family and its business connections to the Osama Bin Laden family and the Third Reich (through Senator Prescott Bush), the P-2 Lodge, disinformation, mind control and cults. Interview guests include writer Kevin Coogan, Nazi-hunter and author John Loftus, author Sterling Seagrave, freelance journalist and 2004 presidential candidate John Buchanan, and investigative journalists Lucy Komisar and Robert Parry [3].

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Emory

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

You might want to look at the Zhukov Plan of May 1941 High_Treason. This is pretty solid over at IHR.org.  Hitler and the Germans beat Stalin to the punch. If Stalin didn't have so many sympathetic Jewish spies in the USA, and Germany didn't have any turn-coats, the war's outcome could have been very different, IMHO.

Again, I can ony point folks to the book: "The Young Hitler I Knew" by August Kubizek (I put a long quote of the book's forward at the bottom of this page).  I think a lot of Young People will see something in Hitler as the world economy crashes due to criminal Jewry - hungry, pissed off, out of work, Jews preying on their property after getting a "reload" from the Bankers.   Condit has an interesting story, actually the more I learn about the possibility that Hitler had Jewish soldiers and mischlings, the more I think that Hitler and the Nazi's gave their self-declared "enemies" way too much leniency. I'm actually surprised the "Final Solution" didn't actually happen.  This leniency in the rise of the Germans to power in itself deconstructs the theory of the Holocaust to some extent - the Jews were first political and social enemies, then racial enemies only in some circles of the Nazis.  The Germans had hatred and grievances against Jews but they were not intent on eliminating them via mass murder in Europe.  Internment yes, murder no.

When you have nothing but ideas and a desire to overturn the entire corrupt system - you must start with a will to power.  If you get funds from bankers and Zionist Jews along the way to make this happen, then take care of your people first.  I believe Hitler as nationalist did this.  Condit doesn't look at any of Kuzbiek's book which kind of makes me doubt him a little - if you are going to make a definitive biography of Hitler and cover each and every base from his time in England, to his Irish Nephew to his rise to power, you must look at Kuzbiek.  His story in my opinion is the only one that really counts and he definitely doesn't show Hitler to be a Nebbish-Torah-Talmud-Kippah wearing Jew whoring in Austria with the rest of the idiot Jews of Pre-War Vienna.  He was a German and a Nationalist that wanted to destroy everything that threated Germans and a stable order of things. Europeans love a good environment to raise childern, Jews obviously, in every country without exception, want to destroy this European perspective.  Jews were not helping anyone in Germany and were actively working to undermine German society from the top down like they did in Russia and Hungary.  Hiter stands for telling the Jews to "F**K Off"  in my book because the Jews in Russia were looking to light up Europe. It's no different than Gaza today.    


FWIW, David Emory is an ahistorical JewTard Cover up artist in my book. No different that the NY Times reporters watching the Holodomor in the Ukraine in the 1930s.

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Zhukov Plan
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Plan of attack

The Zhukov Plan of May 15, 1941, discussed briefly in these pages last year (see JHR 19, no. 6 [Nov.-Dec. 2000]), continues to be the focus of analysis and discussion. Recently, on the fifty-ninth anniversary of the German attack, Vladimir Sergeyev described and published excerpts from the Zhukov document, which was discovered in the Archives of the President of the Russian Federation some years ago. For ultimate security, the original twelve-page text had been handwritten by then Major General, later Marshal, A. M. Vasilevski, and addressed to the chairman of the USSR Council of Peoples Commissars, Joseph Stalin. The document, marked "Top Secret! Of Great Importance! Stalin's Eyes Only! One Copy Only!," was authorized and approved by People's Defense Minister S. K. Timoshenko and Zhukov, then chief of the Red Army general staff.

A key passage in the war plan not previously cited in these pages reads:

    In order to prevent a surprise German attack and to destroy the German Army, I consider it essential that under no circumstances should the initiative for freedom of action be given to the German High Command[. I consider it essential] to preempt enemy deployment, to attack the German Army when it is still in the stage of deployment and has not yet had time to organize his front and the interaction between his service arms.[The word for "preempt" was underlined twice in the original document. -- D. M.]

Thus did Zhukov propose to Stalin precisely what the German Army would do to his forces a month later.

The Suvorov school and certain German military analysts speculate that Stalin's failure to attack before the German onslaught of June 22, 1941, was probably because his own forces had not yet fully deployed for the offensive. Sergeyev, on the other hand, suggests that the attack plan prepared by Zhukov was faulty.

Upon his return from the successful blitzkrieg operation he had orchestrated in the battle of Khalkin-Gol in Mongolia (August 1939), Marshal Zhukov was put in charge of the Kiev Special Military District, where he commanded the Soviet Southwestern and Western fronts. His plan of May 15, 1941, assigned these fronts the task of destroying the Wehrmacht units before them, then advancing southwest across Poland to the German border. This operation was intended to cut German forces off from the Balkan theater of operations and from their Romanian and Hungarian allies, including their vital oil fields.

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v20/v20n6p59_Michaels.html


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Now what evidence have we of Hitler's life and character in those crucial years? Apart from a few
legal documents we have Hitler's own account in Mein Kampf, which may be suspect and is
necessarily subjective; we have the accounts by a Sudeten tramp, Reinhold Hanisch, who knew
him in 1909, and by some other more casual acquaintances in Vienna, as these accounts were
given to the anti-Nazi journalist, Konrad Heiden, in the 1930s; and we have the full account given
by Josef Greiner, who knew Hitler when both were lodging in the Men's Home in the
Meldemannstrasse, first during Hitler's second visit to Vienna in September 1907, later on
Greiner's return to Vienna in 1910. Of these sources, Greiner's account, which was published in
1947, is the fullest and has hitherto been regarded as by far the most valuable. Nevertheless, it
does not answer the questions which we most want to see answered.
For Greiner's portrait of Hitler, though presented in objective terms, is essentially the portrait of a
shiftless, roving, almost weak character, but one whose weakness is combined with a harsh
inhuman, mechanical, repetitive fanaticism. Hitler, he says, was a sorry figure, unpleasing to men
and women alike, and his existence in Vienna, it is implied -- although he read hugely -- was
utterly purposeless. Now although this account bears recognisable resemblances to the later
Hitler as known to history, there has always seemed to me something defective in it. It shows no
trace of the qualities which be must also have possessed. For first, although Hitler was
undoubtedly crafty and crooked and mean and inhuman, the most obvious fact about his
character was the devouring, systematic will power which he was afterwards to show and which
must have been present in embryo even at that time; and secondly, although we know that Hitler
became utterly cynical and inhuman, it is difficult to believe that he was always thus. I do not
believe that men are born sour and inhuman: if they are so, it is because they have been made
so; and what I look for in Hitler's early character is evidence not so much of the result as of the
process of its formation. Here Greiner gives no help; and therefore, reading his book, I feel that
he has recollected superficial characteristics only -- perhaps even that his recollection is
somewhat clouded by afterevents, by the atmosphere of disgust which must have prevailed in
Vienna in 1947. What we require, if we are to see Hitler's character and views in process of
formation, is a more intimate, more sympathetic portrait of what must have been, even in the
most dehumanised man, a human period.
This, August Kubizek gives. The son of an upholsterer in Linz, inspired early with a passion for
music, Kubizek first met Hitler late in 1904 when both were competing for standing room at the
opera. Kubizek was then sixteen, Hitler fifteen. From that time onwards, for the next four years,
says Kubizek, "I lived side by side with Adolf. In these decisive years, when he grew from a boy
of fifteen to a young man, Adolf confided to me things that he had told to no one, not even his
mother." When Kubizek wanted to study music rather than upholstery, it was the young Hitler
who, with astonishing success, persuaded his reluctant father -- as he afterwards persuaded him
to allow his son to come to Vienna. In Vienna it was Kubizek with whom Hitler, in 1908, shared
the room in Stumpergasse. A common love of music and a romantic friendship kept them
together, Hitler always the dominant, Kubizek the recessive partner. Then, quite suddenly, on
November 20, 1908, Kubizek returned to Vienna and, arriving at 29 Stumpergasse, found that his
friend had disappeared, leaving no address. It was only forty years later that Kubizek was to learn
what had happened: "my friend had moved out of the Stumpergasse because the rent was too
much for him and had found much cheaper accommodation at a so-called Men's Hostel in the
Meldemannstrasse. Adolf had disappeared into the shady depths of the Metropolis. Then began
for him those years of bitterest misery of which he himself says little and of which there is no
reliable witness." For it is clear that Kubizek does not regard Greiner as a reliable witness. He
only refers to him once, and then not by name, when he shows that Greiner has illustrated his
book with a faked portrait.
And what is the character which Hitler showed to Kubizek in these four years of friendship? It is a
far more human and, in my opinion, a far more plausible character than that to which Greiner's
book has accustomed us. Externally Hitler sill appears a drifting character: he has failed at
school, has no employment, has been rejected by the Academy, is in Vienna for no clearly stated
purpose, lives on a pittance eked out by painting postcards. But behind this shiftless exterior
Kubizek constructs what must have been there, although it was not apparent to casual
acquaintances: the character of the man who, from these beginnings, without any other natural
advantages besides his own personality, became the most powerful and terrible tyrant and
conqueror of modern history. Here we see -- along with the incipient monomania, the repetitive
clichés, and the Wagnerian romanticism of his later years -- the early evidence of that
unbreakable will power, that extraordinary self-confidence. We see the penniless, unemployed,
unemployable young Hitler, at sixteen, confidently rebuilding in his imagination the city of Linz, as
he was afterwards to rebuild it in fact, and never for a moment doubting that he would one day
carry out these improbable plans; we see him exercising over an elderly Austrian upholsterer that
irresistible hypnotic power with which he was afterwards to seduce a whole nation; we see him, in
Vienna, fortifying himself against a corrupt and purposeless society by adopting an iron
asceticism, like some ancient crusader guarding himself against corruption in a pagan world. And
then turning to detail, we see in Vienna, when Kubizek was closest to him, the working of Hitler's
mind as it feels its way towards the beginnings of national socialism: his crude, voracious but
systematic reading; his sudden discovery of politics; his hatred of the social injustice of urban life
represented to him, the architect, by squalid slum buildings; his fear -- the fear which he was
afterwards to exploit among millions of lower-middle-class Germans -- of sinking into proletarian
status. Behind the outward meaninglessness of his hand-to-mouth existence we see the inner
purposefulness of his studies, his experiences, his reasoning. The account may sometimes be
romanticised, but not, I think, much, or more than is legitimate and indeed inevitable in the
recollections of youth. By all external checks Kubizek's account is reliable, and to anyone who
has studied the mind and character of Hitler it is also inherently plausible. Hitler's character, in the
years after 1908, undoubtedly became harder and more hateful: experience caused it to set into a
hideous inhumanity. In some respects it also changed, not its quality but its direction. We learn
casually from Kubizek that in his Vienna days, Hitler was a pacifist; and certainly the ruthlessness
of his later worship of war becomes more comprehensible when we realise that it was the religion
of a convert. But fundamentally we see here what we have never seen before, and what
superficial observers have never shown: the formation of that positive character which afterwards
achieved the dreadful miracle of our century; the character of the man who, in circumstances of
apparent hopelessness, resolved not to rest till he had found an answer not only to his problem,
but to the problem of a continent. "He did not know what resignation meant," says Kubizek. "He
who resigned, he thought, lost his right to live." Thanks to the experience and the harsh thought
of those years, Hitler was afterwards able, in circumstances which he could not then have
envisaged, to mobilise, like Satan in Hell, some of the best as well as some of the worst instincts
of a defeated people:

What though the field be lost?
All is not lost; the unconquerable Will,
And study of revenge, immortal hate,
And courage never to submit or yield:
And what is else not to be overcome?

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What Hitler was fighting:

In 1919 the famous writer Vladimir Korolenko, who was close to the Social Democrats and who had protested against the pogroms in Tsarist Russia, made the following entry in his diary:
"There are many Jews and Jewesses among the Bolsheviks. Their main characteristics – self-righteousness, aggressive tactlessness and presumptive arrogance – are painfully evident. Bolshevism is found contemptible in the Ukraine. The preponderance of Jewish physiognomies, especially in the Cheka (murderous secret police), evokes an extremely virulent hatred of Jews among the people."

This for Solzhenitsyn is further support for his cardinal thesis, namely, that Bolshevik Jews were the indispensable power brokers in the victory of Bolshevism, in the Russian Civil War, and in the early Soviet Regime. Alexander Solzhenitzyn states,
"Whoever holds the opinion that the revolution was not a Russian, but an alien-led revolution points to the Yiddish family names or pseudonyms to exonerate the Russian people for the revolution. On the other hand, those who try to minimize the over-proportional representation of Jews in the Bolshevik seizure of power may sometimes claim that they were not religious Jews, but rather, apostates, renegades, and atheists."

2. Jews and their co-conspirators from marginalized groups in Russia led the NKVD, CHEKA, OGPU and later the KGB.  These intelligence organizations where created to stop opposition and to simply murder Christians who refused to accept Marxist-Lennism. If you ever google the word "Holodomar" you will see this even in opposition to the Holocaust.

"The US, British, and Canadian governments, however, were well aware of the genocide, but closed their eyes, even blocking aid groups from going to Ukraine. The only European leaders to raise a cry over Soviet industrialized murder were, ironically, Hitler and Mussolini. Because Kaganovitch, Yagoda and many senior communist party and NKVD officials were Jewish, Hitler's absurd claim that communism was a Jewish plot to destroy Christian civilization became widely believed across fearful Europe. "

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Another important part of the Zhukov Plan:

Accounting for Stalin's Delay

Meltiukhov minces no words on Stalin's intent: "The content of the Soviet operational plans, the ideological guidelines and the military propaganda, combined with information on the immediate military preparations of the Red Army for an offensive, attest unambiguously to the intention of the Soviet government to attack Germany in the summer of 1941." He concludes that at first the opening strike against Germany (Operation Groza [Thunderstorm]) was scheduled for June 12, 1941, but that the Kremlin later fatefully shifted the date to July 15. According to Meltiukhov: "Unfortunately, what we now know today was a secret in 1941. The Soviet leadership made a fateful miscalculation by not striking first."

Meltiukhov speculates that Stalin delayed the date for the attack when he learned, on May 12, of Rudolf Hess' flight to Scotland. Stalin feared that if the Hess peace mission succeeded, and the British withdrew from the war, the Red Army would be left to stand alone against the Germans. When it became clear that the Hess mission had failed, Stalin set July 15 as the date for Operation Thunderstorm -- twenty-three days after Hitler launched Operation Barbarossa. Had the Red Army attacked on the originally scheduled date, Meltiukhov believes, it would have succeeded.

Although Soviet intelligence had been informed of the precise date of the German attack by its agent Richard Sorge in Japan, and by its "Korsikanets" and "Starshina" sources in Berlin, Stalin refused to be convinced. Moreover, Prime Minister Churchill and President Roosevelt had also warned Stalin, to no avail: Stalin knew that Britain desperately needed the USSR in the war against Germany for its own sake. By failing to strike first, as planned, the USSR lost 800,000 men (Germany, 80,000), 4,000 aircraft (Germany, 850), 21,500 field guns and 11,800 tanks (Germany, 400) during the first two and a half weeks of the war. By the end of 1941 the Soviet Union had lost three million Red Army troops.

[high_treason]

And Göring? How absurd! Too many loony tunes spreading absolute shit and adding more crap to the Jewish Question that does not actually exist.

Google it Von Epstein

As far as Hitler's bestfriend diaries, he is his bestfriend so you should expect a lot of bias and not take it as absolute truth. Look at the facts, Finland in the 1930s was a weak nation with no airforce and negilable armor as well as a small population. They've managed to give the Soviets the toughest battles ever killing much of them and destroying a lot of their tanks and planes. The Russians were in no position to attack anyone they were a weak nation back then with a lot of femins, purges and not a whole lot of industrial capacity.

Look at Poland, they chose to strike after Germany took the full offensive and there were hardly any troops guarding the Polish-Soviet borders, they initiated the attack after the Poles suffered major casaulties as to not have another embarassment as they did in Finland. The only reason the German offensive in operation Barbarossa was stopped it wasn't because of the Soviet readiness, it was because Germany had inferior tanks (Pnzr 1,2 & 3) against the Soviet KV1 (Heaviest tank of its time) and the T34 (Best tank of the war) the Germans were taught about tanks from the Russians, since the Russians mastered tank warfare and remained the best until the end of the Cold War. Also the Germans had very poor mechanization of their infantry divisions, they used horses most of the time and with a poor terrain in Russia that is muddy and doesn't have a lot of roads this caused the a halt in operations plus German soldiers mostly lacked Winter gear and tank engines froze in the Russian winter.

Read about Heinz Gudarian and how he was pissed at Rommel in France. Rommel was lucky most of the time, he was also frustrated with the slow pace of the infantry divisions which lacked any motorization/mechanization and slowed his tanks down. Samething was happening with a lot of the hot shot Panzer commanders on the eastern front but as France had spread its tanks as support to infantry even then the Germans had to use their Flak 88 to counter them instead of inferior tank guns with 34mm and 50mm, the Russians were desperate and rushed their tanks in which caused many Panzer commanders to see how inferior their tanks really were. Hence Tiger & Panther tanks coming in to existance by 1942 to counter the Russian superiority in armored warfare.

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

An apocryphal tale on Goering's Jewish Friend:
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An Act of Kindness
based on a true story

By Lillian Belinfante Herzberg © 1997
Hugo Rothenberg, born to a German Jewish family in Bad Kreuznach, the Rhineland, wanted to better himself, but he could not see his future in the town where he was born. He decided to look elsewhere to make his fortune. He had visited Denmark on a school holiday and was impressed with the open minded people he met, especially with the pretty young women to whom he was introduced. When he finished school he decided to see what Copenhagen had to offer and what he could offer Copenhagen.

He found a position with a Danish food exporting business and quickly learned the intricacies of persuasion with the clients he met. His employers were pleased with his progress and skill in the art of the export business.

He had been at his job for about two years when friends invited him to a dinner party. Sitting beside him at the table was a remarkably attractive Danish girl whose name was Adela. Hugo was enchanted and impressed about how knowledgeable she was about politics and the events happening in Europe.

By the time dessert and coffee was being served, Hugo was smitten. His mouth went dry. He finally got the courage to ask her, "I wonder if I might call on you next week."

"My, are all Germans so formal? Of course, I would be pleased to have you call on me. Perhaps we might even go out for dinner."

With a broad smile Hugo answered, "Indeed we will."

* * *

When he went to pick up Adela she suggested, "I'm famished. I want to introduce you to some good Danish food at one of our oldest restaurant, Lille Peter. You'll love the Danish specialties, peculiarly the a koldt bord.at least I hope you will."

Over the kirsebaerkage that Adela chose for their dessert, they talked about business, politics and the European conflict.

"I'm happy Denmark has stayed out of the war," Hugo said before putting a piece of cake in his mouth. Then he commented, "This cherry cake is marvelous."

"I'm glad you like it. It seems you enjoyed the rest of your dinner too."

"I love everything Danish, and if you don't know it already, I intend to marry you."

it wasn't long before they were married in the Great Synagogue on Krystalgade.

* * *

By the time World War I had ended, Hugo and Adela had two children and during the next few years Hugo had acquired a reputation as a successful, well known, honest business man, respected by many friends, and colleagues.

One evening Hugo and Adela were invited to a friends dinner party celebrating Danish Constitution Day which commemorated King Frederik VII signing Denmark's first free constitution. One of the guests was the German Ambassador, Ludwig Schmitt, stationed in Copenhagen. The following week the Ambassador and his wife were invited to the Rothenberg for dinner. They accepted with pleasure, and soon an intimate friendship started.

One day Hugo and his friend Ludwig, ambled through Tivoli Gardens drinking in the scent and admiring the beautiful assortment of roses surrounding them. Ignoring the many visiting tourists they found a quiet spot in the corner of their favorite garden cafe and ordered coffee. The Ambassador seemed quieter than usual.

"Ludwig, is something wrong? You seem so introspective."

"My friend, I hesitate to impose on our friendship, but I need your advise and perhaps your help in solving a problem."

Hugo put down a Små Flødekager, the small cream cake he so enjoyed and asked, "What can I do?"

The Ambassador lowered his voice. "Well, this involves a particularly obstreperous individual. I am having a great deal of difficulty working with one of our veteran air force pilots sent here to recuperate from war nerves."

"And what do you..."

The Ambassador interrupted. "I'm frustrated and at a loss of how to handle his erratic behavior. Do you think you can do something with him?"

"I can only try," Hugo told him, and consented to make an effort unaware this distinguished pilot had been a national hero in Germany during the war.

The German flyer and Hugo established a rapport almost at once. Besides health problems the veteran, a gambler, also had financial difficulties. Hugo never judged the man by his life style, and soon the two men established a relationship.

They had known each other only a few months when the pilot asked Hugo, "Could I impose upon your hospitality to ask for a personal loan to cover my many extravagances. I promised I will repay you as soon as I can."

Since he was financially able, Hugo lent him the amount the man needed.

During the time the pilot spent in Denmark the war veteran was accepted as part of Hugo's family. They saw much of each other on holidays, picnics and family dinners.

Following his recuperation the pilot left Denmark to take a job as a stunt pilot in Sweden. Before he left he wrote the family a warm and friendly letter in which he offered to reciprocate their hospitality at any time, and in any way he could for the kindness he received. He wrote them only once more from Sweden saying he had married a beautiful wealthy widow with a darling young son and was very happy.

Meticulous, as well as a pack rat, Hugo saved the first letter which later became the instrument necessary to rescue and save the lives of many people. The letter read:

      "My most respected Herr Direktor!

      Before I say anything else here are most heartfelt thanks for helping me once again. I am ashamed that I have taken advantage of your kindness repeatedly without having an opportunity to reciprocate. Should there be an opportunity, however, here or in Germany, to be of service to you, you must let me be at your disposal. I beg of you.

      You have shown such interest and sympathy for me that I claim the right to be able to show you my gratefulness in return. You must not forget me now. I should refer particularly to Germany where, after all, I do have connections. Here I am nothing. It would be a delusion to think that here I can do something for you. That's a laugh!

      Again my thanks, I mean it. I also hope that there is some evening that we can spend together. You work too hard. Too bad that I was busy the other day. You must have had a good time from all I hear. Please remember me to the ladies.

      With the best of wishes I am your grateful

      Hermann Goering"

* * *

Almost twenty years had passed since the end of the First World War, and once more war clouds were gathering over Europe. During the 1930s Hugo had been traveling around Europe, forming numerous influential friends and business contacts. Some trips included visits to Germany where his four sisters and brother-in-law still lived.

One November evening, in 1938, Hugo's family gathered in their living room after dinner as was their custom, to have coffee and cookies while listening to a concert given on a local radio station. The music suddenly stopped. A Danish announcer interrupted the broadcast and informed his audience of the assassination of a minor German attaché in Paris by a Polish Jewish refugee.

Adela shivered. Everyone stopped talking. Hugo quickly moved to the radio and switched to a German station. They heard a lengthy harangue by the German announcer against all Jews he accused of being responsible for the murder.

The next day Hugo received numerous desperate telephone calls from Germany, each one describing the chaos and frenzy which occurred the night before. His sister called and described how uniformed Nazi hooligans had "spontaneously" trampled all over their city setting fire to synagogues. They were safe because they hid in the cellar and didn't answer the banging on the door.

Another caller spoke of how storm troopers had smashed windows of shops and homes identified with a star of David.

One man said he saw Jewish homes being invaded. "My God, Hugo," aa caller cried, "find someway to help us."

In the early afternoon the wife of a business friend called. She sobbed telling him how her husband, their friends, their frightened teenaged sons, and even dignified older men had been dragged by their arms or yanked by their hair from their homes.

He was told how some avoided the violence by keeping quiet, keeping lights off as if they were not at home.

Hugo's cousin called and said, "I'm calling from a public phone. From what I saw there doesn't seem to be a window still in tact. Glass covers every sidewalk. This is a living nightmare!"

Hugo felt appalled when he was told Nazis Storm Troopers had seized children as hostages when they could not locate their fathers. Rioting took place all over Germany and most of the country's synagogues had been broken into, burned and desecrated beyond repair. This is how Hugo's friends and family had described Kristallnacht, Night of the Broken Glass.

Hugo needed no further persuasion. He assured his terrified callers he would do what he could to help.

The Danish radio continued broadcasting the latest reports of Nazi atrocities the following night. International newspapers revealed details of how Jewish businesses all over Germany had been broken into and violated by "arrogant uniformed ruffians." The Danish papers reported, "Anyone even suspected of being a Jew was pushed around and beaten up."

Hugo knew his immediate family was frightened for his safety, but he felt he had to do whatever he could to be of use. "I'm leaving for Berlin as soon as I can," he informed his family.

"I beg you Hugo, do not do this. There is too much danger," his wife pleaded.

"Adela, my dear, I cannot stand by and do nothing. Maybe I can use some of my connections to help."

He explained to his children, "Unlike our own remarkable country, civil liberties for Germany's Jews have long been restricted, so the Nazis are able to carry out such shocking destruction. We should be grateful we are Danes.

"This latest terror is the most blatant effort since the Nazis took power to hurt, humiliate, threaten, violate and destroy the Jewish community. Something must be done. Someone must protest. I cannot sit back in the comfort of my own home when I may be of use to others who need help."

He assured his family, "I plan to protect myself every step of the way. I will keep careful notes so no one will misunderstand my motives."

When he arrived in Berlin he arranged a secret meeting with his former friend, Hermann Goering, the same Hermann Goering who was Adolph Hitler's second in command, in charge of "the Jewish problem."

"I'm sure he must have known why I came," he wrote to his wife. "He actually seemed genuinely glad to see me."

Hugo waited for Goering to finish his reminiscences before he called the Field Marshal's attention to the inhuman cruelties being perpetrated on the streets. He told him he had heard rumors about concentration camps, and urged him to consider a moratorium from these policies.

For two hours the two strong headed individuals engaged in a heated discussion as they did in the old days.

During this meeting, Goering finally admitted, "Those bloody idiots. Didn't they know the results of these organized riots would have a negative effect on our country's influence to gain the necessary financial good-will of other governments?

"Hugo, if I had known, I would have done everything I could to have prevented this disaster! Believe me."

Hugo nodded, then strongly suggested, "People with visas, even in the camps, must be allowed to emigrate. If this took place it might create a positive slant to those countries you need for support."

Surprisingly, Goering agreed.

http://www. jewishmag.com/128mag/act_of_kindness/ act_of_kindness.htm

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Wikipedia on Goering's Jewish GodFather and Jewish family history back in the 1400s.
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Early life and Ritter von Epenstein

Göring later claimed his given name was chosen to honour the Arminius who defeated the legions of Rome at Teutoburg Forest. However the name was possibly to honour his godfather, a Christian of Jewish descent[6] born Hermann Epenstein. Epenstein, whose father was an army surgeon in Berlin, became a wealthy physician and businessman and a major if not paternal influence on Göring's childhood. Much of Hermann's very early childhood, including a lengthy separation from his parents when his father took diplomatic posts in Africa and in Haiti (climates ruled too brutal for a young European child), was spent with governesses and with distant relatives. However, upon Heinrich Göring's retirement ca. 1898 his large family, supported solely on Heinrich's civil service pension, became for financially practical reasons the houseguests of their longtime friend and Göring's probable namesake, a man whose minor title (acquired through service and donation to the Crown) made him now known as Hermann, Ritter von Epenstein.

Ritter von Epenstein purchased two largely dilapidated castles, Burg Veldenstein in Bavaria and Schloss Mauterndorf near Salzburg, Austria, whose very expensive restorations were ongoing by the time of Hermann Göring's birth. Both castles were to be residences to the Göring family, their official "caretakers" until 1913. Both castles were also ultimately to be his property.
Göring in 1907.

According to some biographers of both Hermann Göring and his younger brother Albert Göring, soon after the family took residence in his castles, von Epenstein began an adulterous relationship with Frau Göring[7] and may in fact have been Albert's father. (Albert's physical resemblance to von Epenstein was noted even during his childhood and is evident in photographs.) Whatever the nature of von Epenstein's relationship with his mother, the young Hermann Göring enjoyed a close relationship with his godfather. Göring was unaware of von Epenstein's Jewish ancestry and birth until, as a child at a prestigious Austrian boarding school (where his tuition was paid by von Epenstein), he wrote an essay in praise of his godfather and was mocked by the school's anti-Semitic headmaster for professing such admiration for a Jew. Göring initially denied the allegation, but when confronted with proof in the "Semi-Gotha",[8] a book of German heraldry (Ritter von Epenstein had purchased his minor title and castles with wealth garnered from speculation and trade and was thus included in a less than complimentary reference work on German speaking nobility), Göring remained steadfast in his devotion to his family's friend and patron so adamantly that he was expelled from the school.[citation needed] The action seems to have tightened the already considerable bond between godfather and godson.[citation needed]

Relations between the Göring family and von Epenstein became far more formal during Göring's adolescence (causing Mosley and other biographers to speculate that perhaps the theorised affair ended naturally or that the elderly Heinrich discovered he was a cuckold and threatened its exposure). By the time of Heinrich Göring's death, the family no longer lived in a residence supplied by or seemed to have much contact at all with von Epenstein (though the family's comfortable circumstances indicate the Ritter may have continued to support them financially). Late in his life, Ritter von Epenstein wed a singer, Lily, who was half his age, bequeathing her his estate in his will, but requesting that she in turn bequeath the castles at Mauterndorf and Veldenstein to his godson Hermann upon her own death.

Goering studied Greek with Rev. John Francis Richards in South Luffenham, Rutland, England, before the First World War. During his visits to England he went to Burghley House in which he decided he would live following a successful invasion of England.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_G% ... _Epenstein

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Story on Albert Goring:

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Early life

Göring was born near Mauterndorf to a former cavalry officer and German consul general in Haiti Heinrich Ernst Göring and his wife Franziska "Fanny" Tiefenbrunn (1859-July 15, 1923), who came from a Bavarian peasant family. Among his paternal ancestors were the Eberle/Eberlin, a Swiss-German family who were Jewish converts to Christianity in the 15th century. Goring was a relative of numerous descendants of the Eberle/Eberlin in Switzerland and Germany, among them German Counts Zeppelin, including aviation pioneer Ferdinand von Zeppelin; German nationalistic art historian Hermann Grimm (author of concept of the German hero as a mover of history that was embraced by the Nazis); the great Swiss historian of art and cultural, political, and social thinker Jacob Burckhardt; Swiss diplomat, historian, and President of International Red Cross Carl J. Burckhardt; the Merck family, the owners of the German pharmaceutical giant Merck; major German Catholic writer and poet Gertrud von LeFort. [2]

The Göring family lived with their children's aristocratic godfather of Jewish heritage, Ritter Hermann von Epenstein, in his Veldenstein and Mauterndorf castles. Von Epenstein was a prominent physician and acted as a surrogate father to the children as Heinrich Göring was often absent from the family home. Göring was one of five children, his brothers were Hermann Göring and Karl Ernst Göring; his sisters were Olga Therese Sophia and Paula Elisabeth Rosa Göring, the last of whom were children of his father's first marriage.[3]

Von Epenstein began a long-term affair with Franziska Göring about a year before Albert's birth.[4] A strong physical resemblance between von Epenstein and Albert Göring led many people to believe that the two were father and son. If this is true it would indicate that Albert Göring had Jewish paternal ancestry.[4]

[edit] Anti-Nazi activity

Göring seemed to have acquired his godfather's character as a bon vivant and looked set to lead an unremarkable life as a filmmaker, until the Nazis came to power in 1933. Unlike his older brother Hermann, who was a leading party member, Albert Göring despised Nazism and the brutality that it involved.

Many anecdotal stories exist about Göring's blatant, obstreperous, and often dangerous resistance to the Nazi ideology and regime.[5] On one occasion he is reported to have gotten down on his hands and knees and joined a group of Jews that had been forced to scrub the street; the SS officer in charge, discovering Göring's name after inspecting his identification, was unwilling to see Hermann Göring's brother publicly humiliated and ordered the group scrubbing activity to stop. [6]

Albert Göring also used his influence to get his Jewish former boss Oskar Pilzer freed after the Nazis had arrested him. Göring then helped Pilzer and his family escape from Germany. He is reported to have done the same for many other dissidents.[6]

Göring intensified his anti-Nazi activity when he was made export director at the Škoda Works in Czechoslovakia. Here, he encouraged minor acts of sabotage and had contact with the Czech resistance. On many occasions, Göring forged his brother's signature on transit documents to enable dissidents to escape. When he was caught, he used his brother's influence to get himself released. Göring also sent trucks to Nazi concentration camps with requests for labour. These trucks would then stop in an isolated area, and their passengers would be allowed to escape.[6]

After the war, Albert Göring was questioned during the Nuremberg Tribunal. However many of the people whom he had helped testified on his behalf, and he was released. Soon afterwards, Göring was arrested by the Czechs but was once again freed when the full extent of his activities became known. [6]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_G%C3%B6ring

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Swastika as a Plasma discharge symbol like the squatting man symbol?:

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About the Swastika
Eric von Rosen found swastikas on a Viking rune-stone on Gotland, where he went through high-school. This seemed to him a typical Viking symbol, and as such it held great appeal to the nationalistic young Count. The Vikings used the swastika as a symbol of light and happiness. When Eric was preparing for his first expedition, the one to South America in 1901, he had swastikas painted on his crates and luggage, to separate them from those of the other participants. This way of choosing for oneself a personal emblem or token of luck, was common and fashionable at that time. During his travels among the descendants of the Inca in Bolivia, he was surprised to see how often their textiles were adorned with swastikas, and realised that this was a universal symbol that had been used by many cultures all over the world.

When he started rebuilding at Rockelstad the next year, he used the symbol as a decorative element everywhere in the house. They are easily spotted in the ceiling of the Great Hall, where they are painted green on a red background. The Hall was finished in 1903. When he planned his spectacular hunting-lodge in 1910, the architect Tengbom was commissioned to design a group of furniture in Old Nordic style, decorated with carved swastikas.

The aeroplane that von Rosen bought in 1918, to support the Finnish fight for independence, was painted with large blue and white swastikas on its wings before it was delivered to General Mannerheim. The symbol then became the emblem of the Finnish Air Force and remained so until sometime during World War II.

Eric von Rosen's aeroplane arrives to Vasa in Finland the 6:th of mars 1918
The first plane of the Finnish airforce arrives to Vasa in Finland the 6:th of mars 1918

It seems like a strange coincidence that Hermann Goring came to Rockelstad before he met Hitler or even heard of the Nazi movement. Could Goring, who apparently took a great deal of interest in Eric's personal symbol of luck, have brought the swastika from Rockelstad to the movement in Munich?

We are not of that opinion. The background of the Nazi cross is probably a different one, where some sources claim that it emanated from DAP (Deutsche Arbeiter Partei) and later NSDAP - With all the distastefulness it thereafter is associated with.

Several individuals who have researched in Hitler's notes claim to have found sketches of swastikas from as early as 1919. And besides, swastikas were quite abundant in Germany from the late 19th century on; it had been used by the nationalistic Volkes-movement as well as a logo for several companies, e.g. ASEA.

There are also several differences between the von Rosen sign and the Nazi swastika. Von Rosen usually placed his sun-crosses in a circle, so that the arms of the cross are curved and it forms a circle itself. The Nazi swastika is tilted so that it stands diagonally, and it has straight arms even when it is confined by a circular field.
http://www.rockelstad.se/english/hermann-goring.asp


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United Kingdom
Logo from a 1911 edition of Rudyard Kipling.
Logo from a 1911 edition of Rudyard Kipling.

The British author Rudyard Kipling, who was strongly influenced by Indian culture, had a swastika as his personal moniker on the dust jackets of all his books until the rise of Nazism made this inappropriate. One of Kipling's Just So Stories, "The Crab That Played With The Sea", had an elaborate full-page illustration by Kipling including a stone bearing what was called "a magic mark" (a swastika); some later editions of the stories blotted out the mark, but not its captioned reference, making the readers wonder what the "mark" was. Scanned image of the swastika logo from a Rudyard Kipling book - a 1911 edition of Puck of Pooks Hill. ... Joseph Rudyard Kipling (30 December 1865 â€" 18 January 1936) was a British author and poet, born in India, and best known today for his childrens books, including The Jungle Book (1894), The Second Jungle Book (1895), Just So Stories (1902), and Puck of Pooks Hill (1906); his novel... Joseph Rudyard Kipling (30 December 1865 â€" 18 January 1936) was a British author and poet, born in India, and best known today for his childrens books, including The Jungle Book (1894), The Second Jungle Book (1895), Just So Stories (1902), and Puck of Pooks Hill (1906); his novel... A moniker (or monicker) is a pseudonym, or cognomen, which one gives to oneself. ... Wikisource has original text related to this article: Just_So_Stories The Just So Stories for Little Children were written by British author Rudyard Kipling. ...


During World War I, the swastika was used as the emblem of the British National War Savings Committee.[1] Image Combatants Allied Powers: British Empire France Italy Russia United States Central Powers: Austria-Hungary Bulgaria Germany Ottoman Empire Commanders Ferdinand Foch Georges Clemenceau Joseph Joffre Victor Emmanuel III Luigi Cadorna Armando Diaz Nicholas II Aleksei Brusilov Herbert Henry Asquith Douglas Haig John Jellicoe Woodrow Wilson John Pershing Wilhelm II Paul...


The swastika was also used as a symbol by the Boy Scouts in the United Kingdom, and worldwide. According to "Johnny" Walker,[2] the earliest Scouting use was on the first Thanks Badge introduced in 1911. Robert Baden-Powell's 1922 Medal of Merit design adds a swastika to the Scout fleur-de-lis as good luck to the person receiving the medal. Like Kipling, he would have come across this symbol in India. During 1934 many Scouters requested a change of design because of the use of the swastika by the Nazis. A new British Medal of Merit was issued in 1935.

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedi ... n-the-West