Dave From Massachusetts goes after Dr. K (K is for Kosher)

[MikeWB]

Dear Brother Rick,
      This is my third attempt to send you this email. I hope threes a charm. This spiritual warfare can be so frustrating. But giving up is not an option. I regularly lose my internet connection here at Lee's. Lee never uses a computer. Lee has never listened to RBN. The internet is for his secretary, Phoebe.She never listens to RBN either.
      Rick, I still believe in you. My trust in you has not been shaken. I believe in your professionalism. I trust that you are a fair and honest broker.
      I first became aware that something is not Kosher with Dr.K on the Monday night broadcast of January 12th. Dr.K took my call. I mentioned some teachings of Jack McLamb that I disagree with. Of course, I'm not talking behind Jack's back. Jack can listen to me on the archives. Besides, I raise the same issues with Jack on his show on Sundays. The problem is that Jack is o nly on RBN once a week so I only have a few minutes to try to respond to Jack's teachings on his show. That reminds me. The other night you said to just stick to the issues (Thursday the 22nd). You are right Rick. The only thing is Rick, Jack's show isn't so much about the issues as it is Jack's own beliefs and teachings. Sometimes it is almost like Sunday school. Although,ironically, Jack condemns Christian worship on the pagan Sunday.
      Anyway, Dr.K said that he hasn't listened to the Officer Jack McLamb show. The call itself went well. Then Jim from Buffalo called in saying that everything I said was wrong, that I had misrepresented Jack. Jim accused me of listening to RBN morning, noon, and night. He accused me of calling in to other shows on RBN. How does Jim know all this unless he's listening to RBN all the time too? What a hypocrite. Dr.K very unprofessionally gave Jim a complete pass on this obvious hypocrisy. Rick, I make no apologies for turning off the Tele - viv-vision. Rick, I'm not ashamed that I have become a loyal devotee of RBN, inspite of what Dr.K and Jim from Buffalo say. I'm not going to let K and Buffalo Jim  Buffalo me. Dr.K said he wasn't going to tolerate callers who put out misinformation and disinformation. Dr.K thanked Jim for "setting the record straight".This is just after Dr.K said that he has never listened to Jack.So how does K know that the record is straight? Then Dr.K told callers to hang on while he skipped ahead to Bob from Colorado. Then Bob piled on, bashing me and falsely accusing me of accusing Jack of being a Khazar. Bob made some not so veiled threats against me. He would like to come to Massachusetts to spend just one hour with me. Presumably to kick the stuffings out of me by the tone of his voice. Bob's trying to project the tough guy image. Let me tell Bob that if it takes him an hour to kick the stuffings out of someone it's too late. The other guy kicked the stuffings o u t of Bob 55 minutes ago. Maybe Bob spells  Bob with two O's. I was kidding on Jack's show that the government has a Financial Czar, an Energy Czar, a Drug Czar, and is even talking about appointing a Car Czar. I kidded Jack that maybe Yo Mama would appoint him to the Cabinet level position of Khazar (as in Khazar Czar).
Of course I was joking. Well, Bob has been trying to make a federal case out of it. He couldn't possibly be that stupid. Does Bob have a sense of humor? What's the explanation?
      What I can tell you Rick is this; I first heard Jim and Bob on Roger Fredinburgs show. Evidently they are Fredinburg fans. I used to call Fredinburg and stand up for Phil Tourney and the U.S.S. Liberty survivors and especially for the 34 dead swabbies that didn't survive, when Fredinburg would attack them. I confronted Fredinburg on other issues as well. Finally, I arranged to have Paster Ron Kukal of the Liberty Veterans Association interviewe d by Fredinburg on Vet erans Day. That show went very well and Roger Fredinberg admitted that he had been wrong about Phil and the Liberty and the survivors and he apologized to everyone whom he offended. I think the RBN listening audience forgave Roger. I know that I did.
      Jim and Bob would always call into Roger's show and attack Dave from Massachusetts. The rest of the audience were loyal RBN listeners and supported me.
I suspect that Jim and Bob are in the camp of Phil Tourney's nemesis, Jim Ennes. However, I have no proof at this point, so I certainly cannot be certain of this.
      Anyway, to say I was shocked when Dr.K joined Bob and Jim's attack on me is putting it mildly. I thought Dr.K was solid. Boy, was I mistaken. Dr.K said that I said that he was going to be arrested for terrorism. I could hardly believe my ears.
It wasn't till later that I remembered making a call to you Rick, when Dr.K was your gue s t . It was probably ab out two months ago when I called your show with Dr.K as guest. I had listened that day to Alex Jones interview ex ISI chief Hamid Gul. During that interview Mr.Gul said that they were trying to charge him with terrorism. I can't remember the specifics now. I'm not even sure whether Mr.Gul said specifically who was trying to charge him with terrorism. I don't know whether it's the U.S. or Pakistan or some International body trying to charge him. Then, that very evening Carl from Canada called Mike Piper's show. Mark Glenn was sitting in for Michael. Carl used to call Michael almost every night. I could hear desperation in Carl's voice. It sounded like his one phone call that someone charged with a crime is allowed to make. Carl said that the RCMP had arrested him on terrorism charges at the detention center near Montreal. He has a website called freecarl.com. Carl's last name is Malaskiewicz-Blaise. He stated that he has been tranferred to a diffe rent facility in Montreal. He pleaded with Mark to be sure and inform Michael of these latest developments. I think he left a phone number with Mark to give to Michael. That's the last I've heard of Carl. Evidently, he can't call RBN from this new facility. He may be in a regular jail now.
      Anyway Rick, I called your show which came on right after the Piper Report. I told you and Dr.K about Hamid Gul and Carl. I said something to the effect that the "Handwriting is on the Wall". It looks like people who figure out who the true terrorists are and say so publicly are going, themselves, to be charged with terrorism. Rick, we have 1st amendment protection presumably, but Canada and Pakistan do not have our protection.
      Dr.K almost made it sound like I personally was threatening him with arrest. So the three of them, Jim, Bob and Dr.K ganged up together to attack me. Dr.K kept saying that he would not put up with dis in formation and lies . He asked me over the air, when I was not on line, when he knew I could not respond, If I am a zionist spy. " Are you a zionist spy Dave"? I was shocked and deeply disappointed in Dr.K.
      The next night that Dr.K hosted your show Mossad Mike told me that Dr.K refused to take a call from me. He obviously did not want me to have a chance to respond to the accusations that he leveled against me.
      That's when I first became suspicious that Dr.K was not the man that I thought he was. When will I ever learn not to be so trusting? I had taken a shine to Dr.K right from the first time that I heard and talked with him. It seemed to be reciprocal Rick. Do you recall Dr.K sending me a complimentary copy of the "Magnificent Message"? I immediately ordered several of Dr.K's books. I was sold on Dr.K and believed that the Magnificent Message had  been translated into Modern English by a magnificent pers on , Dr .K.
 &a mp;nb sp;    Now that I think about it, I do find it curious that none of my muslim contacts and friends have ever heard of Dr.Kassem Khaleel. Not even the Imams at several Islamic centers. Not only on the East Coast but also out here in the Midwest, where I am now. I haven't been trying to look into Dr.K's background, I've been trying to spead the good word about Dr.K and his books at knowledgehousepublishers.com.
      Then on Thursday the 22nd of January I called into your show Rick. Dr.K was your guest. I expressed my admiration for Dr.K, then I mentioned that I thought Dr.K had handled Buffalo Jim and Colorado Bob's calls poorly on January 12th's Rick Adams Uncensored show.
      K said that he won't tolerate liars. He accused Dave from Massachusetts of falsely presenting himself as a taxicab driver. He demanded that I tell him where I have ever driven a cab. Maybe I shouldn't ha v e a nswered K's cynical ques tions, but I did. Rick, you heard me tell him that I drove cab for 30 years in Boston, New York City, Anchorage, Alaska, New Bedford and Quincy, Massachusetts.I told K that I no longer drive a cab. He demanded to know when and where was the last place that I drove cab. I told him Quincy, Massachusetts about 6 years ago.When he realised that he couldn't buffalo me just like Buffalo Jim can't buffalo me, he made another false allegation, a lie in plain language. K said that I said that Keith from Indiana hates muslims. I haven't the foggiest notion what Keith's attitude is toward the muslims. I've never heard Keith even bring up the subject of the muslims.When I denied that I ever said any such thing, K insisted that he heard me say it. I asked him when he heard me say that. He said RBN. I asked him what show on RBN? He said it didn't matter which show on RBN. I insisted that he be specific, wh ic h sh o w ? F in ally he said on the show t hat he hosted f o r y ou Rick. He said the show that Jim and Bob called in on. Well, let's just call that pair Jimbob.
      Rick, you or any other fair and honest person can easily prove all this for yourself by simply listening to Rick Adams Uncensored archives on January 12th and 22nd. Make up your own mind who is honestly speaking the truth and who is lying.
      I warn K that he better lie more carefully. It is easily proven that I was a cabby for 30 years. Anyone can ask the staff at American Free Press. For 20 of those 30 years I passed out thousands of Spotlight newspapers and American Free Press newspapers and many of the special reports such as the attack on the U.S.S.Liberty and 50 unanswered questions about 9-11 etc;etc. I never personally profited from this patriotic activity. I passed out all material out of my cab gratis. It always pleased me that I could sincerely thank my kind and generous passengers for their tips b y turning them on to the finest little organization and newspaper in the whole-wide world.
      I'm not sure that the K in Dr.K stands for Kosher. I smell something that's not Kosher.Or maybe I do smell something Kosher. It certainly wouldn't be the first time that Abraham's Defamation League with the Devil and the Mossad infiltrated operatives into opposition organizations, especially Islamic organizations, using the cover of Islam itself.
      As for me Rick, I'm going to be taking a second look at K. This time you can bet that I'll have my reading glasses on.Where was K born? Can K produce a valid birth certificate? Was K born a muslim? If not, when did K convert to Islam? In short is K OK? Is K  A-OK?
      I hope Dr.K turns out to be just a silly oregano-head and nothing more sinister.
With Warmth and Brotherly Love to You, Rick,
                                                                            Dave from Massachusetts

[Rockclimber]

Dr K is total disinfo and an opportunist, that much is clear. I have personally 'boycotted' Rick Adams show until and unless he disconnects himselfs from Dr K. We don't have time for nonsense anymore and especially these idiotic 'no plane' disinfo agents.

If RBN ever fires Piper, MikeWB, I suspect your hunch about RBN may be accurate. As of late they're losing much credibility. I recently heard Adams state that "Dr K is his favorite guest". Gag me

I don't like infighting and I would rather support those who are pushing a similar message but when they blatantly taint it with disinfo then something needs to be said. Good riddance to Dr k.

[satya]

Last time I heard DR. K., he was was pushing the 'no-plane theory'.  That should tell you something.

[MikeWB]

Speaking of Piper, he went ballistic tonight. He was mad as hell. He even cut off one Jesuit conspiracy guy telling him it's all "bullshit" (yeah, he said that). He then went through so many things and called bullshit on many of them.

Show's not here yet but this will be the link: http://216.240.133.177/archives32/Piper ... 200000.mp3


Get it tomorrow!

[high_treason]

I said it before and I'll say it again RBN is total disinfo, since the Bollyn debacle it has lost much of its content. MCP doesn't break any new grounds neither does Rick Adams, the only show I currently trust and listen to is The French Connection, the reason I listen to DBS is because of the economic analysis which is most of the time accurate, they don't go in to other crap like Hitler is a saint or no planes theory and when they do go in to History its usually using Hitchcock's work from the Synoguog of Satan.

I also like to listen to CJB, even though I don't trust him but the content of his show is usually good when he talks about historical events he knows what he is talking about. As for the shows here on TIU its a given we know they can be trusted and we know they all share a similar vision, but RBN should just be taken as a source of entertainment not News reporting since the quality of its content is really low.

[Rockclimber]

http://azlroundtable.podbean.com/

Thanks &c, now we know where Charles Giuliani hangs out! Grabbing those mp3's now!  

[Chargeemquick]

Off topic I know but I want this said.

"Idiotic no-planers"?

Was there much "plane" wreckage found at the WTC "crash" sites then?
Is the footage of the "planes" seamlessly penetrating(wing-tip to wing-tip) the towers even remotely in keeping with the rules of elemental physics?
Thought not.

[MikeWB]

Off topic I know but I want this said.

"Idiotic no-planers"?

Was there much "plane" wreckage found at the WTC "crash" sites then?
Is the footage of the "planes" seamlessly penetrating(wing-tip to wing-tip) the towers even remotely in keeping with the rules of elemental physics?
Thought not.

A plane is a thin shell of aluminum full of fuel and people. Of course not much was found since it was crushed to dust!

Yes, them penetrating glass is how a body would act when it would hit it.

And yes, this "no planes" crap is TOTAL disinfo and BULLSHIT.

[Chargeemquick]

Off topic I know but I want this said.

"Idiotic no-planers"?

Was there much "plane" wreckage found at the WTC "crash" sites then?
Is the footage of the "planes" seamlessly penetrating(wing-tip to wing-tip) the towers even remotely in keeping with the rules of elemental physics?
Thought not.

A plane is a thin shell of aluminum full of fuel and people. Of course not much was found since it was crushed to dust!

Yes, them penetrating glass is how a body would act when it would hit it.

And yes, this "no planes" crap is TOTAL disinfo and BULLSHIT.

"A plane is a thin shell of aluminum full of fuel and people"

Which could not have penetrated a steel and concrete superstructure in the manner alleged/shown in the "footage"

"Of course not much was found since it was crushed to dust!"

So presumably these two planes that turned into "dust" would still have littered the streets below where it would have been observed by all and sundry?
Maybe it was "fairy dust"

"And yes, this "no planes" crap is TOTAL disinfo and BULLSHIT"

Forgive me if I don`t take your word for it.

[Rockclimber]

Off topic I know but I want this said.

"Idiotic no-planers"?

Was there much "plane" wreckage found at the WTC "crash" sites then?
Is the footage of the "planes" seamlessly penetrating(wing-tip to wing-tip) the towers even remotely in keeping with the rules of elemental physics?
Thought not.

A plane is a thin shell of aluminum full of fuel and people. Of course not much was found since it was crushed to dust!

Yes, them penetrating glass is how a body would act when it would hit it.

And yes, this "no planes" crap is TOTAL disinfo and BULLSHIT.

"A plane is a thin shell of aluminum full of fuel and people"

Which could not have penetrated a steel and concrete superstructure in the manner alleged/shown in the "footage"

"Of course not much was found since it was crushed to dust!"

So presumably these two planes that turned into "dust" would still have littered the streets below where it would have been observed by all and sundry?
Maybe it was "fairy dust"

"And yes, this "no planes" crap is TOTAL disinfo and BULLSHIT"

Forgive me if I don`t take your word for it.

Good grief we have a fucking loon on board.  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:

[Chargeemquick]

Good grief we have a fucking loon on board.  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:[/quote]


That`s no way to talk to another truth-seeker.Please stick to the argument in hand,and please shit-can the "insanity" canard.

[high_treason]

Does it really matter if there were planes or no planes?

Seriously, your average Joe sixpack will think of it like bigfoot and call us crazy. Lets stick to what is 100% provable like:

1. 120 Mossad Agents caught spying before and after 9-11
2. 5 Mossad Agents were caught cheering the collapse and 'documenting the event'
3. A phone call was made from a man saying he saw 'Palestinians' as opposed to Arabs
4. Mohamed Atta's strange behaviour and the confirmation by his girlfriend
5. The zim moving company
6. building no.7
7. The van with the mural painted on it that had explosives inside (Israeli owned)

Thats just some of it, so planes, no planes really makes absolutely no difference and only causes people to call us a fringe group that is crazy and belongs in an asylum, just like the UFologists, Black popers, aliens, Bigfoot, remote viewing and all that other bullshit. So however is promoting it whether knowingly or unknowingly is only hurting the movement which he/she claims to support. It also creates more division and infighting, so like I said who cares if it was planes or no planes?

[Chargeemquick]

Does it really matter if there were planes or no planes?

Seriously, your average Joe sixpack will think of it like bigfoot and call us crazy. Lets stick to what is 100% provable like:

1. 120 Mossad Agents caught spying before and after 9-11
2. 5 Mossad Agents were caught cheering the collapse and 'documenting the event'
3. A phone call was made from a man saying he saw 'Palestinians' as opposed to Arabs
4. Mohamed Atta's strange behaviour and the confirmation by his girlfriend
5. The zim moving company
6. building no.7
7. The van with the mural painted on it that had explosives inside (Israeli owned)

Thats just some of it, so planes, no planes really makes absolutely no difference and only causes people to call us a fringe group that is crazy and belongs in an asylum, just like the UFologists, Black popers, aliens, Bigfoot, remote viewing and all that other bullshit. So however is promoting it whether knowingly or unknowingly is only hurting the movement which he/she claims to support. It also creates more division and infighting, so like I said who cares if it was planes or no planes?

I`m in this struggle for the truth to be told,about EVERYTHING.I refuse to stay silent when others are slandered as "crazy" just because it suits some people`s "political" sensibilities.The "no plane" theory/evidence is just another nail in the coffin of the official story,I agree.I don`t want to get in a big debate about this,but as I said,if people are going to slag off certain sections of the population purely to avoid hypothetical political "stains",then it does not bode well for "trust-building" amongst the "truther" community(a ready-made anti-Zionist audience).

When I heard Daryl Bradford Smith pour ridicule on the topic my respect for him was diminished.
"Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus"
There is a reason why this Latin phrase is important.

[§N9sh2bj]

I sent him a PM. I do not talk in quotes. Apparently, he thinks I only have opinions and he has facts. Let's open a new thread, so this idiot can stop hijacking this one with his no-planes agenda.

Edit: I have opened a thread wheres you can continue the No-Plans discussion. Look for it; post there.

[Chargeemquick]

I sent him a PM. I do not talk in quotes. Apparently, he thinks I only have opinions and he has facts. Let's open a new thread, so this idiot can stop hijacking this one with his no-planes agenda.

Edit: I have opened a thread wheres you can continue the No-Plans discussion. Look for it; post there.

Ok Mr slanderous last word,I`ll stick to the party line from now on.Do I have permission to post your private message as my last word?
I feel it would set the record a bit straighter.

[high_treason]

I`m in this struggle for the truth to be told,about EVERYTHING.I refuse to stay silent when others are slandered as "crazy" just because it suits some people`s "political" sensibilities.The "no plane" theory/evidence is just another nail in the coffin of the official story,I agree.I don`t want to get in a big debate about this,but as I said,if people are going to slag off certain sections of the population purely to avoid hypothetical political "stains",then it does not bode well for "trust-building" amongst the "truther" community(a ready-made anti-Zionist audience).

When I heard Daryl Bradford Smith pour ridicule on the topic my respect for him was diminished.
"Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus"
There is a reason why this Latin phrase is important.

Do you really think 911 will ever be exposed as a Judeofascist job??
I'm not refuting or agreeing to the no planes theory,

viewtopic.php?f=40&t=4197

This has shown me that it is possible, but regular people (sheep) will not see it and will never believe it. Hell they don't even believe the provable stuff that was mainstream. The fact of the matter is 9-11 is a dead issue, like the USS liberty its been what now? 40+ years and hasn't gained any traction or the Kennedy assasination or even WW1 and 2, I don't care about the sheep since they will always be sheep, I want to be able to approach intelligent people who would be of use, the problem is people have a tendancy to flock to whats popular and 9-11's popularity has died down, so even intelligent people will be reluctant to join when the movement is called crazy do you understand what I mean? So this is what I mean by who cares and how its hurting the movement, once you convert someone to see the truth, then they can make up their mind.

We should focus on more important issues that will hurt all including the sheep like the economy, the wars and the occupation. These are issues that cannot be called a conspiracy, will make the sheep more open to seeing the truth and will have a positive effect overall on our movement (The anti-Khazar-racism/fascism/communism whatever label you use). Look at what Yuri Bezmenov exKGB

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He tells it like it is, the sheep will not convert unless they are themselves getting hurt, 911 didn't hurt them, but the economy and the war now thats putting the real pain on them. I do believe that people are entitled to their own opinion but so am I and I don't see no-planes, Hitler is a saint or any of that stuff helpful whether its true or not!

[MikeWB]

Fuck, I lost my post twice becuase server gave me 500 errors  :x

In short, this no plane stuff is total and utter nonsense. All those thousands of people who witnessed it must have been halucinating or some magical device was used. Yeah right  :roll:

Chargeemquick, stop wasting our time with this bullshit! We have low tolerance here for nonsense. I suggest you go somewhere else and spread nonsese. You're just HIJACKING threads and WASTING our time. One more disinfo post and you're banned.

Now, back to Dr K.

[Rockclimber]

Fuck, I lost my post twice becuase server gave me 500 errors  :x

In short, this no plane stuff is total and utter nonsense. All those thousands of people who witnessed it must have been halucinating or some magical device was used. Yeah right  :roll:

Chargeemquick, stop wasting our time with this bullshit! We have low tolerance here for nonsense. I suggest you go somewhere else and spread nonsese. You're just HIJACKING threads and WASTING our time. One more disinfo post and you're banned.

Now, back to Dr K.

I echo Mike's sentiments. Don't like it Chargeeemquick? Then GTFO!

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

I too agree with MikeWB and RockClimber... it was a jew job with planes.

[Chargeemquick]

Anyone got any more comments on Dr K though?

[MikeWB]

Anyone got any more comments on Dr K though?

Here is what I found. Dr K is DEFINITELY Dr. Cass Ingram. The evidence is as follows. He slipped during one of the Rick;s show and actually said his real name aloud. You can also hear his other show here: http://www.archive.org/download/Chuck_H ... 0817CD.mp3  In which he talks about various stuff that's mostly quackery. Compare the voices... they're identical!

Now that we know with 100% certainty that it's him, let's take a look at this (I'll paste it here so it doesn't disappear):

http://healthwatcher.net/Quackerywatch/ ... cphee.html

The guy is a VERY dangerous opportunist and a scammer. He's into it for the money so he was probably paid by someone to push these views. He is definitely bought & paid for.

You don't lose a medical license for something innocuous... you gotta fuck up BAD to lose a license! Doctors train for a long time and they invest too much time to just take away license from people for minor offenses. You have to break your oath or commit some extremely serious offense to lose it. This guy did just that.

Will the real Cass Igram (Ingram) step forward?

Cass Ingram also goes by the name of Cass Igram, and that made it very confusing to track down his true identity, and whether or not he holds a degree as a D.O. (doctor of osteopathy), or a M.D. (medical doctor). It has been literally impossible to track down his true identity on the internet. We've sent out dozens of e-mails to sites that sell his books, and hawk oil of oregano products and so far have batted zero.
Cass's own web site in Florida has no e-mail address, it's just an order taking site. Cass has published under both names.

There was a Cassim Igram who graduated in 1984 from the
College of Osteopathic Medicine & Surgery in Des Moines, Iowa.

In fact the picture that is on his own website happens to be the yearbook picture from that school.

At one time he has a valid license to practice as an osteopathic doctor in Illinois. His license number was 36070858.

His Illinois license was surrendered for cause on Feb 11, 1999.

Cassim Igram, Buffalo Grove -- physician and surgeon license reprimanded and fined $4,000 for allegedly failing to provide requested information to the Department in a timely manner. Dr. Igram voluntarily elected to have his medical license permanently placed on inactive status.
In 1999 his address at was Buffalo Grove, Illinois. According to the State of Illinois web site he has been disciplined, stemming from a case filed against him in 1996. He voluntarily relinquished his license after a consent order #96-2347 on Feb. 11, 1999.

Anyone wishing a copy of the complete disciplinary order in Illinois, can call Mr. Jeff Read at 217-785-0813. There will be a small charge for the copies.

Cassim Igram still holds an active license in general practice in Iowa #02144. The Iowa Osteopathic Association says that he is not a member of their organization, so they don't have an address for him, except the one in Buffalo Grove, Illinois.

If you feel that he was practicing medicine in Ontario, he was doing so without a valid medical license, i.e. he advised people to choose a treatment plan for a particular illness (E. coli:0157), you have every right to complain.

The Iowa Board of Medical Examiners, has a statement about why he really gave up his license in Illinois in a Adobe .pdf file. It states that he basically, while he was in Illinois, was charged with engaging in unprofessional, unethical and dishonorable conduct in his care of and treatment of several individuals who sought nutritional consultation. Dr. Igram was fined $4,000 and his Illinois medical license was placed on permanent and irrevocable inactive status. Under the terms of the Iowa Settlement Agreement, Dr. Igram must provide the Board 90 days written notice and fully comply with any and all requirements established by the Iowa Board prior to beginning the practice of medicine under his Iowa medical license. I don't believe that he lives or practices medicine or osteopathic medicine in the U.S. His address at the time of the Iowa Board's posting was in Batavia, Illinois.

Download April 9, 2003 press release for details - Adobe .pdf file.
The problem with Cass Igram is not that he doesn't practice in the U.S. anymore, or that he was previously charged in Illinois. The problem is that he comes up here to Canada many times a year to present his seriously dubious views on our public. Does he see his family that lives in Windsor, Ontario when he comes to Canada? I don't think so. He comes here to sell books, and to sell products. Does he pay Canadian income tax or sales tax at these shows? I don't know.
In fact, he will be coming up here to Toronto on November 23, 2003 to talk to a meeting sponsored by the Consumer Health Organization. This is a "fund raiser" so that their organizations and friends and politicians can help advance changes to the Canadian Food and Drug Act. Their goal is to have all supplements that are now regulated by Health Canada be regulated as a food.

The Consumer Health Organization is better known for its 2001 Total Health Expo where they tried to bring in a fellow from the wilds of Virginia named Eustace Mullins, who is an avowed anti-Semite. They've also invited Len Horowitz who comes year after year. The most interesting talk I ever heard at one of their Expos was from cancer quack Hulda Clark, who needs no introduction.

When Cass Ingram isn't up here hawking his orgegano cures, he may be hawking Royal Jelly.

So where does that leave you in your quest to keep people like Cass Igram from coming back to Walkerton or to any other city in Ontario or Canada where he can ply his quackery on the poor people who are dying?

You can always keep us informed, and by all means call your MPP, and MP to tell them that none of the regulators really cares, or are unable to help.

All of you can help us stop medical quackery. Let us know where Cass Igram's flyers and posters are, and ask two health food store owners in Walkerton how much money they made selling snake oil from Cass's kitchen sink laboratory. And by the way, if you hear about him coming to town, give us a call, or e-mail us at: Cass Alert



This is the transcript of Christine McPhee's The Touch of Health radio show of June 3, 2000. We are not responsible for inaccuracies in the spelling mistakes, or in the spelling of last names. We are also not responsible for the content of the show, the statements made by Christine McPhee, Cass Ingram, or their guests.

Cass Ingram on Christine McPhee's
Touch of Health - June 3, 2000

CM: Today's show, we're gonna be talking about how to prepare for those super bugs, those super germs. We're gonna be talking about the issues that happened in Walkerton. We've got a doctor that was right there in----. So don't miss out. Dr. Cass Ingram will be joining us. I'm Christine McPhee with the Touch of Health saying hello to all who are listening as well as the new affiliate in St. Catherines.

CM: AIDS is a global epidemic. So is hepatitis. And drug resistant microbes like staphylococci, salmonella and others as well as E coli have been just escalating not only in the news but right here locally in Walkerton, Ontario. The latest result with Walkerton, we've got outbreaks that over a thousand people are sick, maybe more, and over 11 lives. Shelburne, Ontario where they're not sure how to handle the situation, but many of the people have been boiling their water and six wells are contaminated. Dr. Cass Ingram who is a nutritionist and medical doctor has been flown in from Chicago to be able to give us the insight of what's happening in Walkerton. Tell me about that Cass.

Cass: I'm sitting here. Well, I was actually spontaneously on the radio in the Walkerton area to help folks out and that led to this mass movement. And I was flown in and gave a lecture in Walkerton to 250 people, sort of a charity lecture. And it was very interesting to see what folks were dealing with so there's a first hand view here of what's going on and I've been here ever since.

CM: What is E coli? What is that all about and how did it come about?

Cass: Well it came about, one reason. What is water? We kinda take it for granted don't we? You don't think that you're gonna brush your teeth and end up dead five days later or take a shower and somehow get sick. When you wash your hands you don't think about it. When you wash your fruit, there's no thinking. It's automatic. When you drink the water, it's automatic. And E coli is not supposed to normally be in the water. But it is a germ and the word "coli" comes from the word colon meaning it's a cooling germ. E. coli is Escherichia coli which is a specific germ that's found in the intestines but not just in the intestines of humans, in the intestines of animals as well. And so you can start to think about what's happening and what people are drinking. There are many kinds of E. coli and I think that's important to make clear as well.

CM: What types are there?

Cass: Well, E. coli belongs to the E. coliforms. You'll see these words in the newsprint, coliform bacteria, which means actually hundreds of species. One of those is E. coli and the normal E. coli didn't cause a lot of disease, Christine. It was, you know, a cause of kidney disease, a cause of bladder problems, a cause of intestinal problems but it wasn't, and in some epidemics in terms of sewage contamination, but it wasn't this monstrous thing that would flat out kill somebody aggressively. But now there's a different kind of E. coli and that's a mutant E. coli. Its a man made trouble maker. It's a genetically altered, antibiotic induced monster.

CM: A super bug.

Cass: It is a super bug. And it's an aggressive unknown entity. It's a tough germ. And the big key is to understand what antibiotics do, how these germs are created and why can't we kill it. Well it's a matter of our immune system. A regular coliform, generally the immune system can recognize. E. coli 0157:B7, the super bug is not recognized enough. The immune system doesn't recognize it. It invades the gut wall and it's a super germ. By being a super germ, it not only is invasive, not only is it not recognized, but it produces a very aggressive toxin and that's what kills people.

CM: Could this be an epidemic?

Cass: It is an epidemic. There's not a could be. You can't have just...it's an epidemic because it struck an entire town and it's not just one town. There are other towns and of course that's for the epidemiologists to put together. My expertise is certainly there but what I really want to do is help people get ideas and uh, you know, knowledge so that they can use knowledge as power and use the ideas in case this gets further and it is a big situation.

CM: Were you at all in any of the hospitals at all?

Cass: I have been to the hospitals to disseminate information. I've been asked by the families to go and, you know, disseminate valuable information. So I have faxed and emailed material to the heads of departments and so forth, just to educate them and give them some idea of what's up in the scientific literature. They're busy doing what they're doing and I'm busy doing what I'm doing. We're trying to co-ordinate that. Also, I'm direly interested in getting to the ministry. Direly interested because I have invaluable information, life saving information and you'll hear how it's life saving. In fact, it already is life-saving, so, yes, that's part of it.

CM: What could be done, or what is being done right now. So we're treating it with antibiotics, is that...

Cass: No No No, they're really not because, I mean, look. If you look at the National Post and you pull out the Germ Warfare editorial. let's look at what our editorial writers are saying, that bacteria are resistant to modern medicine. It was Howard S. Gold in 1997 who said in the New England Journal of Medicine that there is no way that synthetic pharmaceuticals will kill the plagues of the future. There's no way to keep up with the mutants. We can't do it. The pharmaceutical companies say we can't do it. And so antibiotics make it worse because it allows this germ to produce more toxin and it's resistant to antibiotics. It was created by antibiotics largely.

CM: Cass, we're going to go to Shirley Ann Wald (sp?) who is a registered nurse in Walkerton. Maybe you could tell me, Shirley Ann, what's the latest update?

SAW: Well um, there's still people that um...we ourselves did not get sick but there's still people that, who had had the bloody diarrhea, had a few days of feeling well and then it came back. The bloody diarrhea had come back on them and I know a few particular cases and both of these people had started on the oil of oregano and they are feeling better.

CM: Now , now we're going to be talking about that, but tell me what is there more people in the hospital. Can they stand all this?

SAW: There were two airlifted out last evening, new cases. Um I do not work in the hospital anymore. I've worked at the Walkerton hospital for thirteen years and I certainly commend. I've worked in that hospital and I don't know how they can handle this for as long as they have handled it, because it's, it's a small hospital and they're doing a wonderful job and it is an epidemic and the London hospital is doing a wonderful job.

CM: I heard, I heard two children were actually airlifted last night from London.

SAW: To London from Walkerton, yes.

CM: Any other updates there?

SAW: I do not know.

CM: Well thanks very much for your call. Appreciate that, Shirley Ann.

SAW: Thank you.

CM: Gonna find more out from a resident, Pam Webber, who is gonna give me some of her feedback. Her grandmother died. Is that right?

Cass: That's what I understand, yes.

CM: Pam?

Pam: Yes?

CM: Pam, hello. Can you tell me what your family is feeling right now and how everything's going?

Pam: Um, well, at this point in time we're just trying to deal with the loss. Um, my street is, is not the most wonderful street. We've also lost a neighbour and we also have another neighbour whose little guy is in hospital in London. Um, and I'm not sure what his condition is at this point in time. Last I heard um they were hopeful for his recovery.

CM: The whole feeling that I'm getting is run. You know, with all these problems on your street and everything I feel horrible for you. Anything else that you might want to tell me about?

Pam: Just that we do find a lot of comfort in the support that we're getting from the surrounding communities. It's just phenomenal and this, and this knowledge, and this oil of oregano that, that Dr. Ingram has brought to us, it's, it's...I feel that it's awesome. Um, I know of um a family um, that, that took it and, and gave it to their son and uh, he's well now. He wanted to go to school but the schools are closed. Um, but it's, it's just people have to um, open up their hearts and minds and listen to what Dr. Ingram has to say to them while he's here. Um, he's he's out of Chicago and he came here to help us, um, and bring us this oil of oregano. People have to understand it. It's purely a natural thing. There's nothing to be afraid of. It's, it's safer than baby oil to just be applied to the foot of a small child.

CM: Really. Well you know what? We're gonna be talking about oil of oregano as well as someone who had their son get better who was actually really sick in hospital. So stay tuned okay. We've got lots of information not only what's going on in Walkerton. Dr. Cass flew in to be able to help the situation. We'll be right back.

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CM: The posters in Walkerton read - "THIS MEETING COULD SAVE YOUR LIFE". Wednesday night was an event - E. coli without causing any side effects. Dr. Cass Ingram was there and 250 of the towns 4,800 residents showed up. What was that all about Dr. Cass?

 Cass: Yeah, that was an event that the local people arranged and asked for my presence. They knew that I published heavily on E. coli. They knew that I had extensive information to provide and they chose to do that. Of course it was completely non-commercial. And, uh, wonderful thing. Folks got highly educated about E. coli, the symptoms, the physiology, the mechanism of the illness, perhaps the causes of why this came out. And some answers, serious answers that are proven by scientific literature.

CM: What is the scientific literature out there?

Cass: Well, the scientific literature is two-fold. Number one, the fact is that there are numerous germs that are impossible to kill with antibiotics now, and they are all induced by our sort of germ warfare, antibiotics, genetically engineered material. Uh, and uh, I conducted along with four other investigators at Georgetown University in 1999, and continuing in the year 2000, a monumental scientific study based on the work done by the Greeks in 1996, and by Cavell, a Frenchman from 1918. When Cavell in 1918 took septic water, sewage water, he inoculated the sewage water with beef broth, as if sewage water isn't already bad enough. He puts beef broth in it, feeds the stuff. And that's kinda what's happened in Walkerton, actually, and all these other communities because....

CM: (....interrupted) They're saying that it's from the beef anyway. Hee hee hee.

Cass: Oh, I didn't mean it that way.

CM: Huh Huh from the cows anyway, that's what you're trying.....(chortle chortle)

Cass: Well, I didn't mean it that way.

CM: Huh Huh

Cass: I didn't mean it as a "sacrificial calf".

CM: Heh heh

Cass: But, what happened is you've got organic material, you've got global warming, you've got two warm winters, you've got a lack of a good permafrost, and you've got an epidemic. O.K.? Forget all the other comments, it's an epidemic. And, well in any case he inoculated it, he then put in one drop of a number of essential oils, one of which was a most interesting one, oil of oregano. He inoculated it, put a drop in what would be a small glass of water. That's a glass of sewage water, one drop of oil of oregano, he sterilized the water. He could not get anything to grow out of that water. He could not find any bacteria.

In 1996, at the Univ...at the Journal of Agricultural Food Chemistry at Thessaloniki, researchers took sewage water -- septic water, inoculated the septic water, and used a wild high-mountain oregano vs. the farm raised, used the high mountain wild in a 1:4000 dilution, sterilized the water. Uh, it was Siddiqui (sp?) and his group who killed all viruses. It was Wayne State University in 1999 who destroyed strep, drug-resistant strep. And it took us to do it a stop further. I don't know if you know about the atomic research in the 1950s, where they dropped the bomb and they put out petri dishes.

CM: Uh hum

 Cass: There were two things that survived the atom bomb.

CM: Gingko

 Cass: (....Chuckle Chuckle Chuckle...) Cockroaches were one, and I think probable people knew that. The one thing they don't know is that candida albicans survived, a very difficult to kill fungus. So, we took the most difficult to kill organisms that we had at the time in 1999. We plated it, we hit it with three drugs, including oil of oregano. Uh, oil of oregano completely killed candida albicans, and one of the drugs couldn't even kill it. We took mice and infected them.....you don't even really...

CM: Let me just ask you, everybody is going to think of this as the stuff you put in spaghetti sauce. We're not talking about this.

Cass: Well of course it wouldn't be the same, we'd all be immune to everything as much as we eat. But, for 50,000 years certain villagers and primitives have selected out of 80 different types of spices and oreganos one or two plants because of the high level of a substance called "carvitrol" (sp.?), very high levels 60%, 70% and this actually is even mentioned in the ancient bible as the word "ezov", which means the purifying herb, which means the anointing herb, and it's the same herb that happens, in my opinion, to be the "burning bush" that Moses was supposed to search for because if you were to go to the Sinai, grab a bunch of oregano in a sweaty hand it would burn like the dickens. And, there is no "hyssop" there.

So in any case ancient use but modern history we then injected....and you say....for 50,000 years of human use why do you have to spend a lot of money? It's just kinda nice to see both ways, the ancient use, the human use, and some of the research. The mice were injected with candida and they all croaked, everybody died in seven days. Except the everybody that got the oil of oregano, a small amount, and all the mice lived.

Georgetown university said, and I had told Georgetown, I said "It's gonna work". They said "How can you say that?" They are great people, I said "It's just gonna work".

50,000 years of human use, ancient texts, ancient biblical texts.
So, so all the mice survived. Now, guess what? The most difficult to kill germ, you have to have "space suits" to deal with it.
 CM: Huh huh huh

 Cass: Yeah, the "bubble men are in" and we're doing it and it's working, drug resistant staph. E. coli is minor stuff. Even E. coli:0157 is MINOR STUFF compared to drug resistant, vancomycin resistant staph. It won't stand a chance.

CM: Unbelievable. We're gonna go to a caller. Is it Linda Kueneman (sp?)

 Linda: I'm good.

 CM: You're a resident of Walkerton?

Linda: Actually, no I'm a resident of Mildmay.

CM: Where's that?

Linda: It is very close to Walkerton, 8 km.

CM: What's happening?

Linda: We have an epidemic, and we have to clean that up very, very quickly. And I went to Dr. Ingram's seminar on Wednesday. I went a skeptic and came out a believer.

CM: But...did you have the situation, what made you all of a sudden to make the changes to go, you know "I need help". Did you go in for help?

Linda: Umm, yes my son had it.

CM: How old's your son?

Linda: My son was, is 12.

CM: He's 12 years old.

Linda: And he developed the symptoms on the 13th. I called the hospital on the 14th they told me it was the flu going around. Or actually I called that day, sorry. It called the 13th, on the 14th I called them back and said this is not the flu, my husband is on his way up, and he was diagnosed with E. coli. Everybody in that emergency room was doubled over. The phone was ringing off the hook. I mean...you know...

CM: And getting, where to you go? Wait in line.

Linda: So, I got angry and I called my MPP, Bill Murdoch, I called the Health Unit, the Bruce-Grey Health Unit and I asked them why they were not issuing warnings. They said they had samples that had not come back yet. And I said why are you waiting, you know you have an epidemic happening here. But, anyway, that's not either here nor there. Um, I watched my son reduced to somebody that he never was. Um, Billy was a healthy young boy. He sat on the toilet in the bathroom for four days and four nights.

 CM: Oh my goodness

 Linda: He never left, doubled over, bent over in pain, with blood pouring out.

CM: Oh my gosh

 Linda: So, I then again was angry and got on the internet and started looking up stuff and then I started e-mailing and faxing papers, media, anybody I could think of and saying there's something happening up here, we're not getting answers, would you please send reporters up and help us out?

 CM: O.K.

Linda: O.K. Now Billy started to recover when the diarrhea was abating. There's nothing you can do for it, so they say.

CM: Is that what they were telling you?

Linda: Absolutely. Tylenol with codeine for the pain

 CM: Oh my God

 Linda: But, they can not give antibiotics because that will you know increase the risk for further toxins. So I....

CM: Oh as a mother what do you do? My goodness, when you've got no other solutions, well hospital this is an emergency situation they can't help you?

 Linda: NO. They told me what to watch for, you know, I mean the hospital was great, I can't criticize the hospital or the staff. They were really really great. And they told me the signs and symptoms to watch for, you know for dehydration or for kidney failure or anything like that. Which I did. And um, when I heard that Dr. Ingram on the radio when he was in Wingham, I went to his seminar, and I, I was very very skeptical cause I, you know, about different things like that. But, he was so convincing and had so much information, and they handed it out free. And they handed out oil of oregano free to anybody that was there.

 CM: WOW

 Linda: So, I came home and I gave it Billy, I also talked to Dr. Ingram that night to make sure that I treated Billy correctly.

 CM: Right

 Linda: I came home that night and gave it to him, and I gave it to him the following day, and he was a different boy.

 CM: REALLY

 Linda: He had no energy before that, he laid on the couch, and couldn't even get up to eat. Um, he just was nothing, I mean he had nothing there. He'd lost over 10 pounds. And um, he was by the second day that I had given him this oil of oregano back to normal.

 CM: That's good news. I'm really glad that your son's in recovery, and that other people are taking the same medicine as well.

 Linda: Well the thing is, it's not going to hurt them. You know, it can't do any harm, and why wouldn't you try it? You know, I think it's so ridiculous that medical professionals up here won't use it, I really do. And we still have people dying and we still have people sent down to London. We still have new cases happening. Private wells now are being tested, and finding E. coli. You know it's not over.

 CM: Thanks for your call, appreciate that Linda.

 Linda: Thank you very much. thanks

 CM: Thanks, bye-bye. We've made several people very happy Cass, and hopefully it's working for them as well, too. You know let's talk about this killer this E. coli which it is. It effects all the bladder, the kidney, it just overgrows it overtakes you, there's no answers. Antibiotics are not the answer as well. Um.

 Cass: Well Christine, here's what happens, the E coli:0157H7 is a mutant germ. It has mutated to the degree that it is able to evade immune defenses. It is able to evade the immune defenses that normally inhabit the gut wall. It then, also because it is a supergerm it's a supergenetic germ it pumps out fast amounts of an endotoxin. And that endotoxin is produced by, while it's in the gut. That toxin rips to shreds the gut wall, induces voluminous diarrhea, very similar to cholera. It's a cholera-like illness that I'm seeing and hearing about, they die of dehydration. They die of bleeding, you know. And they die of kidney failure because the toxin then from this particular germ, it's a man-made thing. It gets into the blood.

CM: What is this oil of oregano? Is it a natural anti-septic? Is it an antiviral, antibacterial, what is it?

 Cass: That's the difference, isn't it? Antiseptic, it is not an antibiotic. It does not induce genetic mutants. It kills germs by exothermic reaction, by a fever reaction, by heat. I don't know how many people out there have ever tried a good grade of oil of oregano, and that is the one warning. As our dear lady said, the only side effect of a good oil of oregano is you might get shocked and get well, despite our skepticisms that are natural. And, I encourage a little bit of research and skepticism, but not to the point of killing ourselves. In any case, the big side effect is that you might get well, you will get well. And, it does this by exothermic reaction.

And the only precaution is to make sure that you get an edible oil of oregano, in olive oil, the one I use, and the only one that's researched, the only one's that the subject of modern research is oil of oregano when it comes in the blue label and it has a white cap. Blue label -- white cap. And, that's the one that's you need to use. Now there's a type you need to know, there's a super-strength oil of oregano, and there's an oil of oregano, they're both useful.

CM: We're now gonna be opening up the phone lines, it's 870-6400 on any call for Dr. Cass Ingram for anything about superbugs, superimmunity, give us a call 870-6400 or 1-888-225-8255 if you're out of town. I'm Christine McPhee with The Touch of Health, we'll be right back.

CM: (She then did some promotions and asked people to call her after the show to answer the usual questions at 416-512-4872)...I've got a great guest on, Dr. Cass Ingram who has written a book "Life Saving Cures: How to Use the Most Powerful and Natural Cures of the 21th Century".

We've been talking about Waterton...Walkerton, and I'm going to open the phone lines up, we've got some available 870-6400, 1-888-225-8255 if you're out of town. Be persistent, get on and we can talk about many things Dr. Cass. So, let's go to George, you've got a question for Cass?

 George: Yes, I do have, and will oil of oregano help for colitis, ulcerative colitis?

 Cass: Well, yes, again if there's bacteria in the gut, or yeasts, or fungi or invasive parasites that, you know, that are causing damage in there and you take something like oil of oregano, particularly, I love Oregamax. I had a bad case of irritable bowel from food poisoning and it just cleared it right up for me. So, I do write about that in the book, of course we're not here to diagnose or anything like that, but you will find the information in the book on it. O.K.?

 George: What is the book called?

 Cass: "The Cure is in the Cupboard" would be the first one for you, or the "Lifesaving's Cures" book, or both. You know, look for both of them.

 George: Are they available in Chapters?

 Cass: Chapter can order them, or get to your health food store.

 George: Oh, in the health food store.

 CM: Thanks George for now.

 George: Thanks

 Cass: Let's go to Fred. You have a bout of chronic fatigue?

 Fred: Hello, is this Christine?

CM: Yes, hello.

 Fred: Yes, hello, I had a question about candida albicans. My question is about candida albicans and chronic fatigue and if oil of oregano will help that?

Cass: Well, the fact is that oil of oregano is extremely good for killing candida yeast. Now, there isn't anything out there yet for chronic fatigue syndrome in terms of a clinical trial that I can tell you the case histories in the book are pretty profound. I've received a number of letters from people with chronic fatigue who improved dramatically. And in the back of the book "The Cure is in the Cupboard" there's a case history a child of a 31 year old whose live was completely changed, who had "yeast syndrome". O.K.?

 CM: Thanks Fred. Pick up the book. Let's go to Windsor, Jenna. Hello.....

Jenna: Hello?

 Cass: Hello Jenna.

 Jenna: I'm sorry I'm on my cell phone, can you hear me o.k.? I've got, I've been diagnosed with generalized anxiety, and I'm just wondering, I don't know if you have some suggestions for somebody that is living with it?

Cass: Well, again, this particular thing has so many causes. Do you eat wheat? Do you eat porridge and wheat and toast?

Jenna: No, no.

 Cass: O.K., o.k. what's your favourite breakfast food?

Jenna: Errrrrrrr. When I eat it? I don't know, toast maybe, like white bread, or a bagel or something.

 Cass: Well, I thought that was the same as wheat? Last time I saw....

 Jenna: Giggle giggle giggle

 Cass: Young lady, if you ate right. You know, I don't want to put a guilt trip on you, but if we get you to eat a high protein breakfast, I've found wheat to be a terrible depressant in people who are sensitive. Yank the wheat. Yank the commercial grains. Eat nothing but fruits, meats, and vegetables, you're gonna feel like a million bucks. (in a tuneful manner)

 Jenna: A lot better, all right. Well, I'll try it.

 CM: Keep us posted. Thanks. Calls and lines are available......

 Let's go to Saaed from out of town

 Saaed: Yes.

 CM: What can we talk about?

 Saaed: About flax see oil, would that help high cholesterol and diabetes?

 Cass: Well, here's an interesting thing. High cholesterol can be caused by essential fatty acid deficiency. And, if you eat foods that are rich in essential fatty acids, or if you take flax seed oil, there's a strong chance that you will have a reduction in cholesterol levels. A high cholesterol level does happen to be a sign - symptom of essential fatty acid, but a double handful of sunflower seeds and a couple of avocados a day, I know it's shocking, and lots of nuts and seeds and a couple teaspoons of flax seed oil is a preferable approach I think.

CM: Saaed thanks for your call. Let's go to Ed. What's your question?

 Ed: Hello there, thank you for taking my call.

 Cass: Yes Ed.

Ed: Dr., I've had interstitial cystitis for 14 years, and the medical profession can't help me. What do you recommend?

 Cass: There's some interesting research on the germ enterococcus. It's a bacteria that's invasive and drug resistant that piles into the wall of the bladder. There is some evidence to incriminate aspergillus and candida albicans. There's a lot of evidence showing it's infection. So you heard what we talked about. Read the books, there's a lot of information in the "Lifesaving Cures" on bladder, bladder, bladder. Yaah.

 Ed: Really, where will I find those books, sir?

 Cass: "Lifesaving's Cures", Coles, any major bookstore, or healthfood stores. Go to a healthfood stores and hound them, they'll help you.

 CM: Let's go to Ancaster, Mary, you've got a question

 Mary: Hi, yeah, I'll ask quick, um. About four years ago I came down with strep. I still feel dizzy, nausea, fullness in the stomach, overall feeling unwell. I had just come back from Aruba. Could this help me, the Oregamax? Should anybody be worried about taking it if you have any kind of allergies to it?

Cass: Well, it's pretty tough to be allergic to wild, high mountain extract, spice, like oregano. So don't worry about it. In fact it's quite anti-allergy, so Oregamax would be a profoundly valuable daily supplement for you, to build your immune system. Polish researchers took 40 different herbs, your gingkos, your goldenseals, and all that. Only oregano popped the immune system up, popped the interferon level. It's "ezov", it's ancient "hyssop" of the bible. And it even neutralized poisoned hemlock, and in ancient times old Socrates should have done a little oil of oregano. He named it, "oreganos", the light of the mountains, it's Greek. What's amatta wid doz guys?

 CM: You know on a serious note, the townsfolk want to know what you're going to be doing when you go back. Let's pour some of this stuff into the wells and get that all sorted out in Walkerton. I'm Christine McPhee with a great guest. We'll be right back.

 Dr. Cass Ingram, Life Saving Cures, as well as the Cure is in the Cupboard that you can pick up at any health food store, or you can call any Walkerton related issues as well. Call this number, listen carefully, get a pen.

1-800-265-2615
Cass, I want to wrap it up with you. Is this really truly a quick fix solution for Walkerton, this mini-epidemic?
 Cass: It's not so much a quick fix, it's a definite substance that can kill these kinds of terrible germs. It could be a way to actually eradicate it in the water supply if we could get to the ministry. If we could get this in the water supply there's ways to do it. But, for sure, taking it's safe as a daily spice, powerful prevention, powerful remedy.

 CM: Thanks for joining me, and as always for everyone listening, be well and be responsible, and tune into the next hour. I'm Christine McPhee, we'll be right back.

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Dr. K ------  No planes

WTF ?

Listen, I'm currently in Ireland and the country is going to be brought to it's knees due to a Yid Fractional Reserve Jewish Banking System
The whole world is about to get the biggest kick in the arse we have EVER HAD and yet dipshits bring up No-Planes AGAIN

Get a grip or FUCK OFF

As for Dr. K, I've listened to several of his audios, plus thanks Mike for the text above and I wouldn't trust him, personally speaking.

As for RBN, shit I wanted a TiU slot and I would say exactly what I say as it is, maybe less cuss words and try get Mobes & Savage on to help out and get the message out quickly as I see the SHITE and just in front, A BIG FUCKIN FAN

[Rockclimber]

Nice work Mike, just excellent. I suspect Cass and Alan Watt are good buddies!

I posted this link on dave from Massachusetts site, the post is awaiting moderation. Either way and even if he doesn't post it--I thought he should know more about this phony.

If any TIU'ers would like to add a comment in support of Dave and at Dave's site go here: davefrommassachusetts.wordpress.com

[Rockclimber]

Dr. K ------  No planes

WTF ?

Listen, I'm currently in Ireland and the country is going to be brought to it's knees due to a Yid Fractional Reserve Jewish Banking System
The whole world is about to get the biggest kick in the arse we have EVER HAD and yet dipshits bring up No-Planes AGAIN

Get a grip or FUCK OFF

As for Dr. K, I've listened to several of his audios, plus thanks Mike for the text above and I wouldn't trust him, personally speaking.

As for RBN, shit I wanted a TiU slot and I would say exactly what I say as it is, maybe less cuss words and try get Mobes & Savage on to help out and get the message out quickly as I see the SHITE and just in front, A BIG FUCKIN FAN

I think we should ALL send an email to RBN and request that they give Ognir a slot!

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Real Name: Cass Ingram

If you are still unsure just do a google search for *Cass ingram* and MP3 and listen to some of the interviews - it's unmistakeable.

You can find an Mp3 interview of Cass Ingram aka *Dr.K* here: http://www.archive.org/download/Chuck_H ... 0817CD.mp3

Graduated in 1984 from the
College of Osteopathic Medicine & Surgery in Des Moines, Iowa.

Reprimanded and fined for *Failure to provide timely information* - voluntarily allowed himself to be placed on inactive status

His license # is 36070858

You can look up his medical disciplinary action at the following website: https://www.idfpr.com/dpr/licenselookup/default.asp

Supposedly still licensed in IOWA, lic #02144

IOWA License lookup at: http://www.docboard.org/IA/df/lic.htm (let me know if this works for you, didn't for me)
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Created a SCOFIELD translation of the Koran translation with notes to control the view and interpretation of the meaning of the Koran.

Work is entitled The Magnificent Message Vols. 1 & 2

Website:
http://www.knowledgehousepublishers.com ... ?prod=5002 (and here you laughably find him hawking products both as himself and also the notorious *Dr.K* Kaseem Khaleel

He is also credited with a book promoting the *the lost Gospel of Barnabas* entitled The Secret Scripture. This *gospel* is largely known to be crap, it claims to be the actual words of Jesus Christ as heard through his assistant Barnabas - most Christians already know that the people pushing this stuff are Jews trying to muck up Christianity.

Furthermore he actually also has a book purporting to be the words of Muhammed himself!! This book is entitled *The Words of Muhammad*, lol, I'd love to hear what a real Muslim has to say about this.

Website:
http://www.knowledgehousepublishers.com ... .asp?cat=2

As Cass Ingram he promoted natural cures, however according to a report on the cure zone forums he was a swindler who sold a watered down wild oregano product and charged $75 a pop for a small amount at 1/12th the full strength.

The product is known as *P-73* can be found at http://www.p-73.com

He promoted this product and website on a talk radio show sympathetic to the Jew-Zionist movement, http://www.kkmslive.com/2006_12_01_archive.html

Special attention to the other show program descriptions.

He apparently paid for anonymous registry on his domain names and keeps his name off the p-73 site credits and about us section but a quick search on the toll free number *800-243-5242* (google it!! =) shows where this piece of trash is, acting in his first role as a medical jew-shill he was trying to situate himself at some of the most useful junctures in natural medicine in my opinion - nutrition analysis (second only to hair mineral analysis testing imho), Oregano Oil (arguably the most potent and useful natural remedy).

Conclusion: He is not just a 9/11 disinformation agent, he is also a religious disinfo agent. He used the medical truth side of things to self-fund, selling way overpriced weak inefficacious oregano oil *cures*. I would not be surprised in the least bit if this guy turns out to be Mossad, either payrolled or by way of Saynim'ing.
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One last thing about his pseudonym *Kaasem Kaleel*, the

spelling is not found anywhere - however Kaseem Khalil

is and I believe is the matching correct spelling - he

perhaps did this as a lame way to help obfuscate what

might be a bit too obvious of a tell for some

Cass Ingram -> Kaasem Kaleel aka Kaseem Khalil

Kaasem

The boy's name Kaseem k(a)-seem is a variant of Kassim

(Arabic), and the meaning of Kaseem is "divided".

The baby name Kaseem sounds like Kasim and Qasim. Other

similar baby names are Kareem, Kasee and Kadeem.

Khalil

The name "Hebron" traces back to two West Semitic roots,

which coalesce in the form ḥbr, having reflexes in

Hebrew, Amorite and Arabic, and denoting a range of

meanings from 'colleague', 'unite', 'friend' or 'to be

noisy'. In the proper name Hebron, the sense may be

alliance.

So interestingly enough this fake name he chose

translates roughly into *THE FRIEND WHO DIVIDES*.

Sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebron
http://www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/1/Kaseem

[stoneskull]

Speaking of Piper, he went ballistic tonight. He was mad as hell. He even cut off one Jesuit conspiracy guy telling him it's all "bullshit" (yeah, he said that). He then went through so many things and called bullshit on many of them.

Show's not here yet but this will be the link: http://216.240.133.177/archives32/Piper ... 200000.mp3


Get it tomorrow!

interesting..

Due to a lightning strike
Archives from the 10th did not record
11th - 16th will have to be uploaded manually
We apologize for any inconvenience.

...still not up.


and ps.

The RBN Show Archives will soon be $1.33 per Month. We are now accepting memberships for the subscription.

so if you wanted to download something while it's still free, better do it now.



and pps.

the no-planes theory is no "nail in the coffin".

it's a theory.

[ShamanSaid]

Credits to new member, ShamanSaid:

* Shaman Said
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Real Name: Cass Ingram

If you are still unsure just do a google search for *Cass ingram* and MP3 and listen to some of the interviews - it's unmistakeable.

You can find an Mp3 interview of Cass Ingram aka *Dr.K* here: http://www.archive.org/download/Chuck_H ... 0817CD.mp3

Graduated in 1984 from the
College of Osteopathic Medicine & Surgery in Des Moines, Iowa.

Reprimanded and fined for *Failure to provide timely information* - voluntarily allowed himself to be placed on inactive status

His license # is 36070858

You can look up his medical disciplinary action at the following website: https://www.idfpr.com/dpr/licenselookup/default.asp

Supposedly still licensed in IOWA, lic #02144

IOWA License lookup at: http://www.docboard.org/IA/df/lic.htm (let me know if this works for you, didn't for me)
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      Shaman Said
    * Posted February 8, 2009 at
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Created a SCOFIELD translation of the Koran translation with notes to control the view and interpretation of the meaning of the Koran.

Work is entitled The Magnificent Message Vols. 1 & 2

Website:
http://www.knowledgehousepublishers.com ... ?prod=5002 (and here you laughably find him hawking products both as himself and also the notorious *Dr.K* Kaseem Khaleel

He is also credited with a book promoting the *the lost Gospel of Barnabas* entitled The Secret Scripture. This *gospel* is largely known to be crap, it claims to be the actual words of Jesus Christ as heard through his assistant Barnabas - most Christians already know that the people pushing this stuff are Jews trying to muck up Christianity.

Furthermore he actually also has a book purporting to be the words of Muhammed himself!! This book is entitled *The Words of Muhammad*, lol, I'd love to hear what a real Muslim has to say about this.

Website:
http://www.knowledgehousepublishers.com ... .asp?cat=2

As Cass Ingram he promoted natural cures, however according to a report on the cure zone forums he was a swindler who sold a watered down wild oregano product and charged $75 a pop for a small amount at 1/12th the full strength.

The product is known as *P-73* can be found at http://www.p-73.com

He promoted this product and website on a talk radio show sympathetic to the Jew-Zionist movement, http://www.kkmslive.com/2006_12_01_archive.html

Special attention to the other show program descriptions.

He apparently paid for anonymous registry on his domain names and keeps his name off the p-73 site credits and about us section but a quick search on the toll free number *800-243-5242* (google it!! =) shows where this piece of trash is, acting in his first role as a medical jew-shill he was trying to situate himself at some of the most useful junctures in natural medicine in my opinion - nutrition analysis (second only to hair mineral analysis testing imho), Oregano Oil (arguably the most potent and useful natural remedy).

Conclusion: He is not just a 9/11 disinformation agent, he is also a religious disinfo agent. He used the medical truth side of things to self-fund, selling way overpriced weak inefficacious oregano oil *cures*. I would not be surprised in the least bit if this guy turns out to be Mossad, either payrolled or by way of Saynim'ing.
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      Shaman Said
    * Posted February 8, 2009 at
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One last thing about his pseudonym *Kaasem Kaleel*, the

spelling is not found anywhere - however Kaseem Khalil

is and I believe is the matching correct spelling - he

perhaps did this as a lame way to help obfuscate what

might be a bit too obvious of a tell for some

Cass Ingram -> Kaasem Kaleel aka Kaseem Khalil

Kaasem

The boy's name Kaseem k(a)-seem is a variant of Kassim

(Arabic), and the meaning of Kaseem is "divided".

The baby name Kaseem sounds like Kasim and Qasim. Other

similar baby names are Kareem, Kasee and Kadeem.

Khalil

The name "Hebron" traces back to two West Semitic roots,

which coalesce in the form ḥbr, having reflexes in

Hebrew, Amorite and Arabic, and denoting a range of

meanings from 'colleague', 'unite', 'friend' or 'to be

noisy'. In the proper name Hebron, the sense may be

alliance.

So interestingly enough this fake name he chose

translates roughly into *THE FRIEND WHO DIVIDES*.

Sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebron
http://www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/1/Kaseem

Thanks, for the repost - this guy is such lame Jew shill it's strange that they would have him presented in such a way and out not only him but Rick Adams at the same time. Good for us.

Anyway, please have a look at my other post from Dave's web blog:

url=http://davefrommassachusetts.wordpress.com/2009/01/28/21/#comments]http://davefrommassachusetts.wordpress. ... /#comments[/url] "]
"Please have a good look at this filthy pile of trash Docktor Cass Ingram / Kaseem Khalil / Kaasem Khaleel in the flesh.

3:05
"I found that the lecture was correct, but there were interesting facts that had never been published which I found in the libraries"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZGtiaugsGg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sLylyv53as

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5wB1BEYgTM"

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[youtube:2q3iqmon]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sLylyv53as[/youtube]2q3iqmon]
[youtube:2q3iqmon]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5wB1BEYgTM[/youtube]2q3iqmon]

Pay attention to the hosts gold wristwatch - Muslims aren't allowed to wear such things.

I wouldn't be surprised in the least bit if that pudgy little host turned out to be a crypto-rabbi.

Here is an answer to a question posed regarding gold wristwatches on Muslim men:

http://www.fatwaislam.com/fis/index.cfm?scn=fd&ID=274

Question:
I have a wristwatch that is gold plated; am I allowed to wear it or use it?  

Answer:
It is well known that a man is forbidden from wearing any gold because when the Prophet (sallAllaahu `alayhi wa sallam) saw a man who was wearing a gold ring, he removed it from him and tossed it onto the ground.

Then he said, "One of you takes an ember of the Fire, and then puts it on his hand!" (Muslim no. 2090)

So it is not allowed for a man to wear any kind of gold, not a ring, nor cuff-links, nor anything else. A watch falls under this category if it is gold. If it is painted gold or is plated with a very tiny amount of gold, or it has small pieces of gold on it, then it is permissible for a man to wear it.
 
Also see, http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 922AATJBws