History of Weather Control

[Jenny Lake]

Irving Langmuir and his assistant Vincent J. Schaefer perfected the chemical formula for cloud-seeding in 1946 and won U.S. government funding for their company, General Electric in Schenectady New York. With a contribution from Bernard Vonnegut, Kurt Vonnegut's brother, silver iodide and carbon dioxide were seeded by air and burned on the ground in over 200 weather modification experiments --probably performed between 1946 and 1953-- before the program was deemed "ineffective" and officially terminated.

Langmuir always contested the official line and was recounted in the Memoirs of Edward Teller as provocatively describing his successes as causing great amounts of damage in storm manipulation. Teller thought Langmuir was trying to convince him that weather control was equally as powerful as H-bombs. In an effort to prove his claims, Langmuir mounted a large-scale experiment from Socorro New Mexico (1950), intermittantly burning silver iodide and sending huge plumes of smoke across the country in a fallout pattern. The excess and intermittant rainful was proof said Langmuir.

According to the listing at answers.com, weather experiments occurred in 1903, 1915, 1919, 1944, and 1947. The storm damage referred to by Teller may have been eastern seaboard hurricanes that were steered (inadvertently?) back onto land in the 50s due to interference by cloud-seeding-- perhaps the major hurricane of 1953. Since airplanes were not needed for cloud-seeding, these events and similar occurances deserve another look.

From answers.com, http://www.answers.com/topic/cloud-seeding
What's not addressed, but brushed over, are health hazards from cloud-seeding-- silver iodide being another heavy metal salt with the "paradoxical dose effect" like all the metal-plus-halogen salts. Not only does it mimic the toxicity of radiation but the rain it causes helps bring down radioactivity. In 1951, radioactive rain was falling in upstate New York. Was this a combination of nuclear test fallout and a cloud-seeding experiment?

Irving Langmuir bio:
http://www.woodrow.org/teachers/ci/1992/Langmuir.html

Vincent J. Schaefer bio:
http://library.albany.edu/divs/speccoll ... 02.010.htm

[Jenny Lake]

Okay--
Langmuir did his massive rain/fallout test in 1950 and it looks like the hurricane pattern changed in 1950. Up to that year hurricanes were numbered but as of 1950 hurricanes were named --Able, Baker, Charlie, Dog, Easy, Fox, George...etc.--just like nuclear test operations. 1950 produced an unusually large number of high-intensity storms. Some of them (Dog, Easy, and Love) exhibit weird looping configurations which break the general patterns.

In 1953, the storms were given women's names that were often re-used in the following years. 1954 saw two of the worst hurricanes to ever come over land-- Carol and Hazel. Carol cost money and Hazel cost lives. Look at the steering pattern of 54's Hurricane number 8. Ive explicitly encountered info in the bios and memoirs attributing direction changes to cloud-seeding.
http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/hurrarchive.asp

Severe giant storms pick up dramatically in frequency from 1950 onwards. Rather than once or twice a decade, they occur once or twice a "season", skipping years here and there. In the book "The Secret History of the American Empire" John Perkins writes "Most US citizens are not aware that national disasters are like wars: they are highly profitable for big business. A great deal of the money for rebuilding after disasters is earmarked for US engineering firms and multinational corporations that own hotel, restaurant, retail chains, communications and transportation networks, banks, insurance companies,and other...industries."
...uh-huh.

[Jenny Lake]

This page of experiment citations --a "pubdoc"-- gives an idea of cloud-seeding work, some of it as part of Project Cirrus
http://www.isws.illinois.edu/pubdoc/CR/ISWSCR-265.pdf

Seeding over Hawaii was regularly tested in 1948. In 1950 and 1951 it looks like Langmuir & assoc. were all over the place. Clearly, seeding work increased into the mid-50s, to at least 1957...

History website says of hurricanes: "From 1851 to 2004, the greatest number of hurricanes to form in the Atlantic basin in one season was 12, in 1969. The highest number of of major hurricanes --category 3 or higher-- was 8, in 1950, and the average number is 2.5. For the 2005 season as of October 1, there were 9 hurricanes...
http://www.history.com/search.do?search ... ,+Typhoons,%OABlizzards,+Other+Storms

Kansas reports its worst floods in 1951--
http://ks.water.usgs.gov/waterwatch/flood.1951

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Hi Jenny,
There is something afoot in all of this. Teller wanted to create a  Sun Screen for the Earth as well.
 
An interesting fellow is this guy:
David Wells
http://www.rexresearch.com/wells/wells.htm

Interview:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory: ... rol_System

http://pesn.com/Radio/Free_Energy_Now/r ... achine.mp3

Another good one:
   The Methodic Demise of Natural Earth

An Environmental Impact Overview

 Dr. R. Michael Castle

    Executive Summary

 Dr. Edward Teller wrote a white paper in the late 1990's describing a remedial operation, strategy, epic-in-proportion, to change the predicted course of what was believed by an International group of Scientists, including Dr. Edward Teller, Livermore National Laboratories, et al, to be the cataclysmic certainty from the results of global-warming, crisis level Ultra-Violet/Cosmic radiation, crisis Ozone-layer depletion and other theoretical doom. ( Edward Teller's "Sun Screen" Document – pdf ) (2)  Demonstrating here, that the same mind, Dr. Edward Teller, Father H-Bomb, was responsible for many ill-conceived strategies and not one gave considerations to the consequences in the Human realm.  Safety, toxicity, lethality, exposure, Environmental Impact, morality, were not words with which Dr. Teller had a high-degree of familiarity.(  WHO IS EDWARD TELLER? ) (3)

http://www.bariumblues.com/methodic_dem ... _earth.htm

[Jenny Lake]

CSR--
Where did you find David Wells?...I'm so skeptical after the webpage that I don't want to bother with the interviews. Tell me this gets better.
While "anything under the sun" is possible, being probable is something else --Wells strains all credibility, imo. I've witnessed some very strange cloud phenomena that appear artificial --like invisible barriers that evaporate clouds on contact, as if they were hitting a wall. I don't doubt there are machines that can create limited perimeters. The punch-hole clouds, too, are very trippy.

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Hi Jenny,

I found from the Peswiki website.  You can take his writings and interview for what it is worth. If you find something of value in Joseph Neuman or Tesla and the Electric Universe theory, you might find David Wells a little more interesting - especially if you consider weather is as much an electrical effect as a particulate-pressure-temperature induced effect.

http://www.tuberose.com/Bizarre_Weather_Patterns.html

A related article:

Oct 23, 2008
Electric Space Weather Baffles Scientists

Atmospheric researchers are puzzled by a "newly discovered form of space weather" observed over the African continent.

"...We've seen the smoke, but where's the smoke stack?"

This "strange" and "new" phenomenon is the "ion plume" -- a form of electrified "gas" (plasma) in Earth's atmosphere that is so high above ground it makes contact with space itself. (See NASA -- Strange Space Weather Over Africa)

Scientists are taking the discovery quite seriously. In Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, over 100 scientists and students have converged this week to discuss the ion plume and its profound ramifications for many scientific disciplines.

http://thunderbolts.info/tpod/2008/arch ... eather.htm

[Jenny Lake]

CSR--
The subject is fascinating...thanks for posting it. I like your thinking. But when it comes to Wells, I think he's pandering to the "fountain of youth" crowd and his machine sounds like mechanical snake oil. So far, my caution about biological effects from interacting with energy devices has grown immensely, so I don't have a liberal view here.
Another factor in weather mod. is bioprecipitation --the use of mutant bacteria as thermal regulators and ice-nucleators-- from known plant pathogens (when not artificially mutated)...what other mutant pathogens are proving useful I wonder and part of the chemtrail formula. ??

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

I thought maybe they were seeding with a type of "mycobacteria"?

[Jenny Lake]

This is a plant pathogen used for a long time in weather mod.
http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Pseudomonas_syringae

Langmuir worked extensively on plasmas and so did Leo Szilard and other physicists doing very high-energy experiments. A young scientist in the 1920s, Arno Brasch, was directing lightning or harnessing & generating it (?) from Mount Generoso on the Swiss-Italian border.
http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_ur ... us&fr=ace2

Physicist Arno Brasch was a relative of a man named Isbert Adam, described in some history documents as a "Havana importer" who bought patents from Enrico Fermi or Leo Szilard --the fathers of the Bomb who built the first reactor at UChicago. Both Brasch and Adam were correspondents with Lewis Lichtenstein Strauss (Rothschild hospital pres, Kuhn, Loeb & Co partner, USNavy admiral, Chair of the Atomic Energy Commission). Brasch's lightning experiments were said to be very dangerous by other scientists who knew what he was doing. Later, maybe with the license of Fermi's patents, Arno Brasch built a "capacitron" and used it to irradiate foods in the 1940s. http://www.jitterbuzz.com/lif0310.html

In 1930 or so, Brasch was working for AEG Berlin using Marx generators for gas lasers.