Swine flu smoke screen or the real deal?

[Travis]

Greetings all,

I am battling to figure this one out. Is the Swine flu that is emerging from Mexico the real deal; meaning the start of a global pandemic that can wipe out millions of people. Or is it a minor virus that has been blown out of proportion by governments for political objectives; for example to distract attention away from other events such as the economy and the torture scandal?

For me two factors will suggest that it is the start of a real global Pandemic and not a minor variant that has caused deaths in Mexico. One, if the death toll rapidly increases in Mexico to thousands, and two if fatalities emerge from swine flu in western countries even after medication has been given.

[Wimpy]

Not a statistician but aren't the odds peculiar that a Mexican Professor, in a City of 20 Million people, shakes the hand of a visiting US President and then expires a week later?  Or, how about the 9/11 woman activist who had lost her husband in the Twin Tower's collapse, who then meets with the President at the White House, and perishes in a plane crash a week later. Is there some sort of vaccine available against this sort of thing?




Wimpy


-"I'll pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today"-

[Rockclimber]

It could be but it sure is being hyped. I pulled down an AJ show just to here what people are saying and I had to laugh. He said and paraphrasing "that the media is hyping it and fearmongering". Now that is a joke, friggin hypocrite. Between his guests, that moron Deagle and than Steve Quayle, king of the fearmongerers and a lousy prophet (and it's the luciferians) was his other guest. Sherry Tenpenny was supposed to be on but she couldn't as she's in Mexico but the officials are busing people out. (she would make a good guest/honest guest)

Did this flu come from a lab? My gut tells me of course. Is it the big one? Not sure but big pharma is going to push their drug so much of this will be driven by profits and the bottom line. They could go either way with this and force all of us to take vaccinations or go and stay in a FEMA camp if you don't. The latter being Steve Quayle's hypothesis and not a bad one. Deagle and Quayle are PAYtriot/patriotards though so I can only take them a wee bit serious. All these guys are gleeful that this is happening, including AJ. They are seeing $$ signs. Want to sell things? Just scare the shit out of people. From nano masks to vaccines, paranoia will destroy ya.

[EireWarrior]

Not a statistician but aren't the odds peculiar that a Mexican Professor, in a City of 20 Million people, shakes the hand of a visiting US President and then expires a week later?  Or, how about the 9/11 woman activist who had lost her husband in the Twin Tower's collapse, who then meets with the President at the White House, and perishes in a plane crash a week later. Is there some sort of vaccine available against this sort of thing?

Don't meet the President?  Hang on... Shit he is the anti-christ :lol:

[EireWarrior]

I'd say the Mexico virus is the real deal [mutated] but the others in different countires is the common swine flu [non-mutated] just scare tactics at the minute.

Virus Alarm in Switzerland Swine Flu Container Explodes on train, Mere coincidence it happend to be 'swine flu' aboard that train?  :?
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=5221

I think this is just a testing ground for a bigger epidemic, just MHO. For now anyway  

[memory hole]

interesting;

http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2009/04/s ... sy-op.html

1. Millions die in Mexico each year from diseases such as TB, typhoid and malaria.

But we don't hear much about that.

Due to high levels of poverty in Mexico, there is a tendency for outbreaks of flu to kill large numbers of people.

2. In the USA and Canada, flu symptoms have been described as mild.

"Several students experienced flu symptoms after they returned but they were so mild that they didn't raise any concerns." (Swine flu hits Canada)

This swine flu's a "relative lightweight" (Swine flu's a relative lightweight.)

The first reports of swine infections in Mexico came in mid-March.

The current swine flu strain still has fewer than 1,000 reported cases.

So, why is publicity for the flu coming now?

3. The Flu Kills The Torture Memos

4. And, certain fascist swine are hoping to make lots of money from selling vaccines.

"On March 20, 2009, this researcher outlined a peculiar PANDEMIC VACCINE TRAINING exercise in Texas scheduled to occur on Saturday, May 2, 2009." (http://www.rense.com/general85/dsd2.htm)

"There was a Swine Flu outbreak in 1976. President Gerald Ford asked that all Americans be innoculated.

"As it turned out, the disease only killed one person but the vaccine harmed hundreds and may have killed some." (This article addresses that question.)

5. And maybe the latest swine flu is meant to target certain groups?

Germ warfare `could target ethnic groups' - News - The Independent

[Anonymous]

I checked out about 6 mexico city web cams and things look like a normal city functioning as normal.

[LordLindsey]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnSX_jS0STA

Russia Today is spreading the word that this virus is not what it appears to be--"natural" I should say.

LINDSEY

[Anonymous]

thai news just reported first case of pig flu, a traveller apparently.

[Yammitor]

Although it's called swine flu, this new strain is not infecting pigs and has never been seen in pigs. The threat is person to person transmission

I think its a test run to get the sheople scared in order to them remind them they need to be fearing pandemic risk and to continue builting up fear that a real more lethal strain could come at any time.Then they will readily bare their arms to recieve a vaccine when a more lethal strain is released.
Also, to test the reaction of the sheople and train the herd so that they will know how to react and more importantly what to think when a more lethal strain is released, just like a fire drill.

Quotes from linked articles I'll try to summarize in bold

Swine Flu Smoking Gun ? CDC was Combining Flu Viruses in 2004
http://www.naturalnews.com/026159.html

Bottom line: the new flu virus contains DNA from avian, swine viruses (including elements from European and Asian viruses) and human viruses.

Here's the potential smoking gun, the facts that suggest a potential source of the pandemic could be CDC labs.

The University of Minnesota Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP) ..... the Center's web site has news the MSM isn't familiar with, either. But information they published years ago has now taken on an urgent importance. CIDRAP, along with the Canadian newspaper Canadian Press (CP), revealed back in 2004 that the CDC was launching experiments designed to mix the H5N1 (avian) virus and human flu viruses. The goal was to find out how likely it was such a "reassortant" virus would emerge and just how dangerous it might be. Of course, it's logical to wonder if they also worked with the addition of a swine flu virus, too.

Here's some background from the five-year-old report by the University of Minnesota research center (link below): ""One of the worst fears of infectious disease experts is that the H5N1 avian influenza virus now circulating in parts of Asia will combine with a human-adapted flu virus to create a deadly new flu virus that could spread around the world. That could happen, scientists predict, if someone who is already infected with an ordinary flu virus contracts the avian virus at the same time. The avian virus has already caused at least 48 confirmed human illness cases in Asia, of which 35 have been fatal. The virus has shown little ability to spread from person to person, but the fear is that a hybrid could combine the killing power of the avian virus with the transmissibility of human flu viruses. Now, rather than waiting to see if nature spawns such a hybrid, US scientists are planning to try to breed one themselves -- in the name of preparedness.""

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/cidrap/content/influenza/panflu/news/jan1404hybrids.html

And CDC officials actually confirmed the government had plans for the research. The CIDRAP News folks did a great job covering this important issue, which was apparently mostly ignored by the MSM back in 2004, and CIDRAP News wrote to the CDC for information. This e-mail produced an answer from CDC spokesman David Daigle who admitted the CDC was working on the project in two ways. "One is to infect cells in a laboratory tissue culture with H5N1 and human flu viruses at the same time and then watch to see if they mix. For the human virus, investigators will use A (H3N2), the strain that has caused most human flu cases in recent years," the CIDRAP story stated. This co-infection approach was described as slow and labor-intensive. However, it was a way to produce a new virus that appeared to be closer to what develops in nature.

"In other words, the CDC researchers will be deliberately engineering viruses of pandemic potential. It's high-risk but crucial work, the influenza community insists." (Link Below)

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1104186283991_7/?hub=Health

[Travis]

I really appreciate the variety of thoughts and ideas that have been presented. This indicates this issue is of importance and concern to us all, and perhaps this was 'their' objective to add another element of stress and distraction to our lives. We are still in the middle of a financial meltdown, and now the threat of a global pandemic is on the horizon, at least according to the media.

Even though we may have more access to hospitals and clean water ( chemically modified to our disadvantage) our immune systems have been compromised. There are higher rates of cancers, neurological disorders and many other illness that ravage a person's ability to function.

Can our sickened bodies really handle a global pandemic?

We need to be suspicious of the government and their controllers and not underestimate their resource to violence and murder to fulfill their political objectives. Remember the Iraq war was based on a lie and has resulted in the murder of millions. The Iraq war 2003 is also a demonstration of the bias of the media and how it can be used to manipulate public opinion to support corrupt policies.

[Travis]

The one of the greatest problems I have with the current 'potential' pandemic is that people arriving from Mexico are not being quarantined or even told to stay away from public areas until they could be tested for swine flu. The reason given for this was that it would cost too much money to quarantine every one traveling from Mexico to London. However, this is a very floored logic because it would cost far less to quarantine and test a few thousand individuals returning to Britain than it would to treat millions of people. Furthermore the government has not even suspended travel to Mexico. This is very curious considering the most recent case in the UK involved a child that returned from Mexico and then was allowed to returned to her school. The girl has since been diagnosed with Swine flu and as a result the school has been closed and her peers have been given tamiflu. I can only conclude that either swine flu does not present a real threat and that is why the UK government has been so relaxed with dealing with people arriving from Mexico, or the government wants swine flu to spread across the UK.