Fear and Censorship Rampant In "Patriot" Community

[Rockclimber]

(thanks to iamthewitness.com for the link)

http://www.opednews.com/populum/diarypage.php?did=13170

Also, they mention  the thread that prison planet changed the title and moved (MASSIVE CENSORSHIP, CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH)


http://www.opednews.com/populum/diarypage.php?did=13170

Fear and Censorship Rampant In "Patriot" Community

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A summary of the censorship in the alternative media. Thank you Rob Kall, for supporting free expression and for giving me a platform for my articles.

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Fear and Censorship Rampant In "Patriot" Community
By Martin Hill
LibertyFight.com
5-14-09

"He that sees another in error, and endeavors not to correct it, testifies himself to be in error" -Pope St. Leo I

Let me preface this by saying that I have never been obsessed or fixated on 'zionist' or "Jews vs. Arab" topic, as so many seem to be today. I was not concerned with Jews or zionists, or muslims, and had never even met a Jew until I was probably in my 20's. I was raised in an upper middle class Catholic home in Southern California. The topic is an interesting one, though, particularly regarding people's fear of touching the subject. I am all for free discussion of any topic. Nothing should be verboten. The recent response to a topic I helped create has been fascinating to say the least.

I am very much against threatening anyone for their speech. This applies to neocons, leftists, 'patriots', or anyone else. Keep in mind I was instrumental in getting coverage on the Michael Reagan issue, when he threatened 9/11 truther Mark Dice on the radio. I even called Reagan up personally and we discussed it, and I told him he was wrong. That as well as many other aspects of this were covered on Clearchannel's KFI Los Angeles, Infowars, PrisonPlanet, etc. Here is the index page of some of that coverage. http://libertyfight.741.com/DiceHandelIndex.html

Now onto the current controversy. It all started last month when I was listening to the INFOWARS stream via my cell phone, and caught a very disturbing exchange between Jason Bermas and a caller. I wrote an article about it on Op-Ed News a few days later entitled 'InfoWarrior' Jason Bermas: Jew Critics Are 'Anti-Semites' Who Should Hang Or Electrocute Themselves (4-19-09)
I also posted the audio of the call on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y3DkO1VX4g

I also posted it on Michael A. Nystrom's website DailyPaul.com, which is a popular site for Ron Paul supporters. After the topic garnered 3 pages of replies from members, the daily paul froze the topic, preventing anyone from responding further, thus pushing it off the front page, off the website and down the memory hole. See: 'InfoWarrior' Jason Bermas: Jew Critics Are 'Anti-Semites' Who Should Hang Or Electrocute Themselves  http://www.dailypaul.com/node/90298?page=2

A few days later Bermas and Jones replied about my op-ed piece and youtube vid. Here is their response, Bermas and Alex Jones Respond To the Jewish Controversy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgiH2BkwdX4 part 1
and part 2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx2PMWmy3SI

 Jones and Bermas also responded to the original caller himself when he called in. Their response to the caller seemed nearly as innapropriate as Bermas's first response, and seemed to make the situation worse. I posted the article about their response, as well as the vid, on Op-Ed News: Bermas & Alex Jones Respond To The Jewish Controversy on April 23, 2009. http://www.opednews.com/populum/diarypage.php?did=12996

Since the original topic had generated so much interest, I also posted the follow up on the Daily Paul only to have it immediately removed. I was also immediately permanenently banned from the DailyPaul.com without reason. I guess Nystrom, the owner of the Ron Paul adulation site does not support free expression and intellectual discussion any more than Bermas does.

The owner ot Op-Ed News, however, Rob Kall, ( http://www.opednews.com/author/diary/author2.html ) who I believe is Jewish, did not remove my articles. Mr. Kall should be commended for giving people the opportunity to publish and discuss articles. He obviously is nothing like the paranoid politically-correct control freaks that abound everywhere else on the net, even in the purported 'patriot community'.

Mike Rivero of WhatReallyHappened.com has posted at least two of my videos that I know of, including Rest in Peace Pete Nosan. ( http://whatreallyhappened.com/content/r ... pete-nosan )Pete was a friend of mine and a tax freedom advocate who served as Restore the Republic CA Chapter leader. He tragically killed himself last year after the IRS came to his job and threatened him). Here is the cache from his site,( http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:EK ... clnk&gl=us ) in case Rivero denies or erases it.

I have included Rivero on my mailing list for some time. Granted, he did not ask to be on my list, but as a popular alternative site who lists his contact info and published my material, I assumed he wanted to recieve the occasional articles/ vids that I send out. A few weeks ago Rivero posted my video interview ( http://whatreallyhappened.com/category/911  ) of a Muslim USMC Vet Fired From Job For 9/11 Truth Sign. ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xMCAURzKuk ) However, after I sent Rivero the article and videos from Bermas & Alex Jones Respond To The Jewish Controversy, ( http://www.opednews.com/populum/diarypage.php?did=12996 ) all further e-mails I sent to him have been returned. He apparently blocked me from all further contact; which is certainly his perogative, but is very revealing. Did daring to mention the "J word" cause him to block me? Apparently.

Meanwhile, on the other end of the spectrum, and I almost hate the give this guy publicity, but someone named Eric Hufschmid scoured my website, and posted photos of me and my teeth on his website, alleging I am a 'zionist protector' "jew" "dog" "neanderthal", simply because I link to some Alex Jones material on my website. ( http://erichufschmid.net/Veteran-terrorists.html ) He claims Jews have a gap between their teeth. For the record I had braces in high school and the gap was completely closed, but it came back when I stopped wearing the retainer. Go figure. By the way, I am half Italian, as well as English/German/Dutch and a lifelong Catholic.

Someone posted the topic at the Prisonplanet.com forum, and so far, to their credit, they have allowed the topic and discussion to remain. Whoops! As I write this, I just clicked on the topic and see that it has now also been removed. Here is the google cache of that topic: Jason Bermas: Jew Critics Should Hang themselves ( http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:-p ... clnk&gl=us ) Prisonplanet forum member 'Protean' started that thread which had hundreds of replies, going on for at least 11 pages. I do not know if Protean has been banned from the site. The original url of that topic was forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=104796.400 - 98k [google search] http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe ... themselves

Jeff Rense, ( http://rense.com/ ) who recently had a fallout with Alex Jones ( http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe ... alex+jones ) and was removed from GCN, linked to the original youtube video a few days ago. It had had about 2300 views before Rense linked to it, and now has 17,714 views and 634 comments.

The same day Rense posted the original video, a Texe Marrs article entitled Do The Jews Own Hollywood And The Media?, ( http://www.rense.com/general85/ownh.htm )(5-9-9) which was critical of Bermas' response without naming him, was posted on Rense.com.
Here are some videos of Texe Marrs with Jason Burmas 2009-03-05 pt 5/5  ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8duX5rrJmKk )and here.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8cyjvDW ... re=related   I heard that Texe Marrs discussed this Bermas fiasco on his radio show, but I haven't heard it. ALex Jones has invited Texe Marrs onto his show as a guest for years, as well as selling his books and videos on Infowars; so it would be interesting to hear them discuss this entire issue candidly. Cudos to Texe Marrs for having the guts to address this issue.

There is also a youtube clip here, entitled Jason Bermas & Alex Jones called out as Zionist Shills described as an: "Excerpt from RBN Radio with Michael Collins Piper and Guest: Mark Glenn. Two callers expose Jason Bermas & Alex Jones as the Zionist Shills that they are, and talk about the recent controversy with Bermas telling a caller on his show, who brings up Jewish influence on the media, to kill himself." I have not heard that clip yet. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEqMu3UeVwM

And that is all, for now. The fallout from this fiasco seems to have grown far and wide. I stick to my original response, which was that the comments were grossly innapropriate and out of line, especially from Alex Jones websites, which purport to come from a Christian and freedom-loving perspective. Christians and patriots do not threaten or advocate the death, murder of suicide of anyone. it really is as simple as that.

May peace be with you all.

"When they sin, rebuke them in the presence of all that the rest also may have fear" 1 Timothy 5:20

"Without me you can do nothing" John 15:5

[LordLindsey]

I give all of you my word:  VERY soon there will be such a massive compendium of FACTUAL INFORMATION put-out in such a way that these people who are "trying" to control the information will no longer be able to keep it from ANYONE.  The efforts that so many of us have made in such a short time will be NOTHING AT ALL compared to what is about to come.  With the advent of methods to ensure that information is given to the right people in the many thousands, and THE WILL TO DO IT, the days of the lies surrounding WHO control the system, WHAT is taking place to destroy our nations from within, WHEN these events have taken place, WHERE the major incidents of treason and murder against innocent human have occurred, WHY the mechanisms of control are being put-in-place, and HOW the traitors are able to get away with all of this will soon no longer be tolerated and THE TRUTH AS IT IS WILL BE SET-UPON THE WORLD AS CERTAINLY AS DAYLIGHT FROM THE SUN.    

All that we need is the INITIATIVE and the WILL to make this happen--and the truth will eventually be known to all who have any desire at all to see it for what it is.

LINDSEY

[maz]

It's great that OpEd let that article stay up. They have been doing some good work lately.

Most Prison Planet forum members are showing their true colors and the rest of them are just thinking that the forum is being infiltrated or something ridiculous.

[MikeWB]

Whole community needs to start exposing Jonestein. He's the most dangerous person right now for the simple fact that he's got a huge following of people who are "woken up" and "patriots" and these are the same people that would be open to the REAL truth as well.

[Rockclimber]

It's great that OpEd let that article stay up. They have been doing some good work lately.

Most Prison Planet forum members are showing their true colors and the rest of them are just thinking that the forum is being infiltrated or something ridiculous.

Somebody posted it on prison planet forums. They will go nuts as usual, will censor and ridicule. They cannot debate.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=105929.0

[maz]

They really can't. I am really disillusioned with AJ at this time; I admit I am having a hard time admitting I was taken in for so long.