Shades of the American 60s- Neda Soltan

LatinAmericanview · June 22, 2009, 06:14:28 PM

This story is being reported on the American Military Propaganda Network AKA Fox News. Useful idiots are a dime a dozen. Martyrdom is just a media campaign away for anybody at the right place and right time. In a world where perception is everything death is just another opportunity to make your point. The Americans never recovered from the various psyops of the 60s. Assuming this story is true then what is going on in Iran?

QuoteProtesters in Iran are hailing 26-year-old Neda Soltan as a martyr after graphic videos of her apparent murder at a protest in Tehran hit the Internet. Iran experts say images of her bloody death have galvanized the country and that mourning for her — which has been banned by authorities — will bring deeper unrest.

"Neda," whose identity could not be verified by FOXNews.com, was reportedly gunned down by paramilitary police Saturday during protests in the capital city. Videos posted on YouTube, Facebook and Twitter show her bleeding from the nose and mouth as a crowd tries unsuccessfully to stanch the flow and save her life.

The video also shows a moving clip of a man identified as her professor cradling her head and yelling out, "Neda, don't be afraid. Neda, stay with me. Neda stay with me!"

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Reports of how she was killed vary — from a rooftop sniper's bullet to a passing shot by two Basij militiamen on a motorcycle — but the effect has been nearly universal.

In the space of just hours, the philosophy student became the image of Iran's democratic protests, nicknamed the "Angel of Freedom." But it is Neda's real name, which means "voice" or "calling" in Farsi, that is resonating in slogans throughout Iran's capital and beyond.

Her fiance said in an interview with BBC Persian that she had not supported any candidate in the allegedly fraudulent elections. Neda wanted "freedom for all," he said.

Mehdi Khalaji, a senior fellow at the Washington Institute for Near Eastern Affairs, told FOXNews.com that Neda has become "one of the pillars of this movement now," and the bloody images of her dying in the street are its "main icons and symbols."

Her family scheduled a memorial service to be held in a mosque in northern Tehran, but the government forbade ceremony, and she was buried quietly on Sunday with only her family present, say Soona Samsami, executive director of the Women's Freedom Forum, who has been relaying information about protests inside Iran to international media.

All mosques were given a direct order from the government barring them from holding any memorial services for Neda, and her family was threatened with grave consequences if anyone gathered to mourn her, said Samsami.

"They were threatened that if people wanted to gather there the family would be charged and punished," Samsami told FOXnews.com.

Much of the attention and blame for Neda's apparent murder is now being focused on Iran's leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, whose threatening speech Friday preceded the violent protests Saturday at which apparently Neda lost her life. Khamenei is now the prime target for protesters' outrage, Khalaji said.

"For the first time since the election it seems that people are including in their slogans 'Down with Khamenei,' and 'Death to Khamenei,'" he told FOXNews.com.

Protesters have reportedly been attempting to gather in public Monday to remember Neda but have been broken up by the government. Despite the outright ban on their gathering, Iran experts say the government will not long be able to stop public mourning for Neda.

Protesters have used Shiite mourning as a reason to gather, beginning this year after early protests against election returns left seven dead. Adhering to Islamic tradition of mourning on certain days of the month, protesters have repeatedly gathered again, drawing the ire and the fire of the Revolutionary Guard and creating further opportunities for protest.

Now reformist presidential candidate Mehdi Karroubi, one of the leaders of the democratic protests in Tehran, has called for a Thursday night memorial service for all protesters who have been killed to be held at the shrine of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, the founder of the Islamic Republic of Iran.

"Should the masses come it is going to be very devastating because they will be facing those who they believe to be her murderers in the face," said Ali Salehi, a research analyst at UCLA.

Whether or not there is a violent crackdown at Thursday night's memorial, the Islamic underpinnings of the regime are more and more being called into question by Iranians, said Salehi, particularly after the ban on mourning Neda, which contradicts Islamic law, he said.

"Not only is that not right, but according to Islamic tradition it is immoral and improper, so they are essentially breaking one of their own laws out of fear."

FOX News' Melissa Tabatabai contributed to this report.

LatinAmericanview · June 22, 2009, 06:25:00 PM

QuoteHow Neda Soltani became the face of Iran's struggle
guardian.co.uk - ‎22 minutes ago‎
Neda Soltani's death was filmed on a phone and posted on the internet. Authorities prohibited her family from giving her an Islamic funeral.
Video: Sen. John McCain on Iran C-SPAN
Neda Soltan, Young Woman Hailed as Martyr in Iran, Becomes Face of ... FOXNews
Los Angeles Times - AFP - The Associated Press - Wikipedia: Neda Soltani
all 1,027 news articles

LatinAmericanview · June 22, 2009, 06:35:53 PM

This is very graphic and terribly sad. I will not watch it but I feel that it must be part of the thread. I feel for the dead. Death is the only freedom a slave ever knows.

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QuoteNeda Soltani who was standing aside with her father watching the protests was shot by a baseej member hiding on the rooftop of a civilian house. He had clear shot at the girl and could not miss her. However, he aimed straight her heart. The impact of the gunshot was so fierce that the bullet had blasted inside the her chest, and she died in less than 2 minutes.

I am posting this so the whole world can see what kind of dictators we are dealing with. Please support our cause.

"Neda paid the ultimate price for freedom. She is a symbol of our resistance and a true Iranian hero"

R.I.P Neda

To all the Iranian/Arab cowards supporting the brutal, dishonest, violent dictatorship of the Islamic Republic Of Iran : BE Afraid! Your Days are coming to an end. We will have our Revenge. Freedom is Ours.

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LONG LIVE IRAN
LONG LIVE FREEDOM
DEATH TO ISLAMIC DICTATORSHIP!
DEATH TO BASEEJ!
DEATH TO KHAMENEI

LatinAmericanview · June 22, 2009, 07:01:28 PM

QuoteHow Neda Soltani became the face of Iran's struggle
guardian.co.uk - ‎1 hour ago‎
Neda Soltani's death was filmed on a phone and posted on the internet. Authorities prohibited her family from giving her an Islamic funeral.
Neda Neda Salehi Agha Soltan becomes a symbol of Iranian resistance Times Online
Neda Soltan, Young Woman Hailed as Martyr in Iran, Becomes Face of ... FOXNews
Los Angeles Times - AFP - BBC News - Wikipedia: Neda Soltani
all 406 news articles »

Could someone else please monitor googles front page? Look for this story and post your findings here? Thank you.

Travis · June 22, 2009, 07:32:40 PM

Sorry LatinAmericanview, I am lost. Do you actually but this shit? A innocent girl got killed why? Because the masses are truly and independently trying to overthrow the government? Or becuase the masses are being manipulated by American and Zionist interests?

And for the last time, anybody, where is the evidence that the elections were rigged?

LatinAmericanview · June 22, 2009, 08:08:22 PM

Quote from: "Travis"Sorry LatinAmericanview, I am lost. Do you actually but this shit? A innocent girl got killed why? Because the masses are truly and independently trying to overthrow the government? Or becuase the masses are being manipulated by American and Zionist interests?

And for the last time, anybody, where is the evidence that the elections were rigged?

Again, I live in Latin America. I had a good friend from Iran and he explained several things to me. He was a Professor at two major universities in America. He said that Iranians where pro-western. He also describe President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was a lot like Bush people were stuck with him and unable to get rid of the mad man. I should mention the my friends family were wealthy and extremely well educated. Iran is very much a first world nation with a very strong culture. The impression that I got from him was the Islamic Fundamentalist were repressing people in their ability to adopt pro-western values. In other words the clerics were trying to hold Iranian religious cultural integrity from encroaching western Ideology. It can be seen as the cultural revolution of 60s in America. I should mention that it fairly well established that the cultural revolution was aimed at destroying America's morality. An enormous amount of Jews are implicated in this social engineering marvel. The Femenist Movement headed by a Jewes. The Gay Rights headed by a Jew. The Civil rights headed by a communist Black preacher backed by Jews. Additionally Fabian socialist were also involved. I don't know why the young woman was murdered. However, her death has become a symbol. That symbol is being exploited in the west to create a propaganda war against Iran. The whole story started when someone posted this video on CNN "I report" internet based reporting. Twitter has also been used to get the word out about the struggle for freedom. The question remains if this can be parlayed into a governmental collapse. The masses are just a means to create the moral high ground.

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hurensohn · June 23, 2009, 06:15:37 AM

I woulden't put I past that the Mossad/CIA did a black op on her.

Travis · June 23, 2009, 10:45:24 AM

The thing that upsets me is the people that claim they are against Zionists but support the unrest in Iran.

LatinAmericanview · June 23, 2009, 10:53:24 AM

QuoteIranian authorities scramble to negate Neda Soltan 'martyrdom'
Times Online - Jenny Booth - ‎1 hour ago‎
The Iranian authorities have ordered the family of a student shot dead in Tehran to take down mourning posters as they struggle to stop her becoming the rallying point for protests against the presidential election.
Video: Fiance tells of Neda's last moments - 23 Jun 09 Al Jazeera
Neda's Killing Propels Iran's Women to More Opposition Protests Bloomberg
New York Times - AFP - Jerusalem Post - Wikipedia: Neda Soltani
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LatinAmericanview · June 23, 2009, 10:55:50 AM

Quote from: "Travis"The thing that upsets me is the people that claim they are against Zionists but support the unrest in Iran.

Travis- There are lot of different flavors of slavery. In my country we have Jesuit Liberation Theology. In Iran we have Islamic repression which was backed by the British originally. Israel has Zionist apartheid. Cuba has Big Brother communism without the technology. Of course some would say that it is all the Evil Jews but the problems is factional.

LatinAmericanview · June 23, 2009, 12:53:45 PM

QuoteOn the Internet, Support for Iranian Protesters Swells
Washington Post - Jose Antonio Vargas - ‎30 minutes ago‎
Twenty years ago this month, Thomas Ho was aboard Amtrak en route to Washington, pressing his pocket transistor radio to his left ear, sitting by the window to get better reception.
Friends Say Neda Soltan, Slain Symbol of Iran Protest, Predicted ... FOXNews
Latest Updates on Iran's Disputed Election New York Times
Reuters India - Times Online - Bloomberg - Wikipedia: Neda Agha-Soltan
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LatinAmericanview · June 23, 2009, 02:10:16 PM

QuoteIran's 'Angel of Freedom' Neda Soltan Vowed to Protest Against ...
FOXNews - ‎2 hours ago‎
A young woman named Neda Soltan is being embraced as a martyr in Iran after a video of her purported killing at a protest Saturday was posted widely to YouTube and Facebook.
Video: Fiance tells of Neda's last moments - 23 Jun 09 Al Jazeera
On the Internet, Support for Iranian Protesters Swells Washington Post
Times Online - Bloomberg - Reuters India - Wikipedia: Neda Agha-Soltan
all 1,050 news articles »

LatinAmericanview · June 23, 2009, 03:29:54 PM

QuoteNeda's Death Highlights Women's Role in Iran Protests
Bloomberg - Ali Sheikholeslami, Caroline Alexander - ‎35 minutes ago‎
June 23 (Bloomberg) -- A young woman who was shot through the heart and died on the streets of Tehran has become the face of the opposition movement in Iran.
Video: Fiance tells of Neda's last moments - 23 Jun 09 Al Jazeera
Iranian regime targets family of 'Angel of Freedom' Neda Agha Soltan Telegraph.co.uk
FOXNews - Washington Post - Los Angeles Times - Wikipedia: Neda Agha-Soltan
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Travis · June 23, 2009, 05:32:59 PM

Can no one see the hypocrisy in this. Jews shoot innocent Arabs daily in Palestine - Americans shoot innocent Arabs daily in Iraq and no one cares especially the Jewish controlled media, but when a Persian is blamed for shotting a innocent the whole world is in uproar especially the Jewish controlled media. If people can not see this is a manufactured event followed by media propaganda they need help.

LatinAmericanview · June 23, 2009, 05:39:49 PM

Quote from: "Travis"Can no one see the hypocrisy in this. Jews shot innocent Arabs daily in Palestine - Americans shot innocent Arabs daily in Iraq and no one cares but when a Persian is blamed for shotting a innocent the whole world is in uproar. If people can not see this is a manufactured event followed by media propaganda they need help.

This why you should listen to my show. What is reality? The internet can create reality of millions of plugged in fools. Honestly, we have no idea what happened in Iran but we know how we should about the event. I find that interesting. One last thing, why should I care about what happens to Palestinians? I live in Central America, I am European Ameri-Indian mixed blood, I have not connection to the middle east, and I m not a Christian. However, I think we have a Zionist problem but cares are closer to home.

LatinAmericanview · June 23, 2009, 05:41:14 PM

And I forgot, I don't really care hat a Persian was killed but really interested in the way the Psyops is developing.

LatinAmericanview · June 23, 2009, 05:53:27 PM

QuoteNeda's boyfriend: She wanted freedom
Jerusalem Post - Rachel Geizhals - ‎17 minutes ago‎
In her lifetime, the voice of Iran dreamed of a non-oppressive, democratic country. And in her death, young Neda Agha Soltan has become a symbol for the thousands who share and now dare voice that hope.
Video: Fiance tells of Neda's last moments - 23 Jun 09 Al Jazeera
IRAN: More than 100 Facebook pages honor Neda Los Angeles Times
Bloomberg - Telegraph.co.uk - New York Daily News - Wikipedia: Neda Agha-Soltan
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Travis · June 23, 2009, 05:55:44 PM

Quote from: "LatinAmericanview"This why you should listen to my show. What is reality? The internet can create reality of millions of plugged in fools.

Reality is a constant it does not change only peoples' interpretations and representations of it change and vary.

QuoteHonestly, we have no idea what happened in Iran but we know how we should about the event. I find that interesting.

We have no idea what happened in Iran but we are fully aware of the media's coverage time and hypocrisy in representing the demonstrations. Similarly we are aware of who owns the media and their political objectives concerning Iran, destabilization.

QuoteOne last thing, why should I care about what happens to Palestinians? I live in Central America, I am European Ameri-Indian mixed blood, I have not connection to the middle east, and I m not a Christian. However, I think we have a Zionist problem but cares are closer to home.

We should care if we have morals and scruples. Injustice is injustice wherever it manifests itself. Furthermore I only referred to the Arab murders to demonstrate the media's hypocrisy.

LatinAmericanview · June 23, 2009, 06:16:13 PM

QuoteWe have no idea what happened in Iran but we are fully aware of the media's coverage time and hypocrisy in representing the demonstrations. Similarly we are aware of who owns the media and their political objectives concerning Iran, destabilization.

In your country. However, the Jews do not control the whole world that is why sometimes things like Iran happen. See the Whole thing for me is Psyops. Focusing in on the hypocrisy of the media is like calling a street whore a slut. Talk about stating the obvious. The media does what is politically expedient at any given point in time. To think of the media as have any allegiance to truth is just naive.

LatinAmericanview · June 23, 2009, 06:19:35 PM

QuoteObama condemns Iran violence, singles out shooting of woman seen ...
Los Angeles Times - Christi Parsons, Peter Nicholas - ‎2 hours ago‎
Iranian protests are among hot topics at the president's news conference today, which also covered his push for healthcare reform, 'clean energy' jobs and the president's efforts to quit smoking.
Video: Health Care reform WLUK
Obama takes on insurers over gov't plan The Associated Press
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LatinAmericanview · June 23, 2009, 06:43:57 PM

QuoteNeda Salehi Agha Soltan's story touches everyone except Iran's rulers
Times Online - ‎11 minutes ago‎
She was invoked by President Obama in the White House. The exiled son of Iran's late Shah said that he carried her picture in his left breast pocket alongside those of his daughters.
Video: Fiance tells of Neda's last moments - 23 Jun 09 Al Jazeera
Neda's boyfriend: She wanted freedom Jerusalem Post
New York Daily News - Bloomberg - Los Angeles Times - Wikipedia: Death of Neda Agha-Soltan
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Ognir · June 23, 2009, 06:46:22 PM

I think LaV is right but needs a holiday away from this shite, :lol: like we all do, wake up and we realise we had been dreaming but we took that PILL and we can't go back, EVER

GordZilla · June 23, 2009, 07:15:18 PM

Quote from: "Ognir"I think LaV is right but needs a holiday away from this shite, :lol: like we all do, wake up and we realise we had been dreaming but we took that PILL and we can't go back, EVER

The Tragically Hip (Canadian rock band who get's it, but keeps it hidden well) calls it "the Long Term Membership"

Have a seat we're not going anywhere.

As for Iran, we're not gonna know the truth for some time to come, All I've read from this site on both sides of the argument is merely speculation.

I do tend to think much of what we're seeing is staged but I have no way to confirm that. Just gut feeling, like how this latest girl murdered is now a martyr in the main stream media's eyes, yet Rachel Corrie ...who's that?

LatinAmericanview · June 23, 2009, 09:49:35 PM

QuoteNeda Salehi Agha Soltan's story touches everyone except Iran's rulers
Times Online - ‎3 hours ago‎
She was invoked by President Obama in the White House. The exiled son of Iran's late Shah said that he carried her picture in his left breast pocket alongside those of his daughters. :shock:
Video: Fiance tells of Neda's last moments - 23 Jun 09 Al Jazeera
Neda's boyfriend: She wanted freedom Jerusalem Post
Bloomberg - FOXNews - Telegraph.co.uk - Wikipedia: Death of Neda Agha-Soltan
all 866 news articles

Anonymous · June 24, 2009, 01:43:06 AM

LAV Something very strange about your posts and views on this site, Very strange indeed!

Anonymous · June 24, 2009, 01:49:45 AM

Quote from: "Melvin"LAV Something very strange about your posts and views on this site, Very strange indeed!

Strange how? don't allude to something you can't prove. Either say it or PM Latavius Latinius for clarification.

LatinAmericanview · June 26, 2009, 12:17:16 PM

Quote from: "Melvin"LAV Something very strange about your posts and views on this site, Very strange indeed!

If you would like to ask me a question please ask. I tend to stick with things that we can prove or at least measure. We can measure who people attitudes change under a constant barrage of propaganda. The Iranian stories are really great examples. Firstly, the sovereign government of Iran is being attacked by the mob protesting for freedom and liberty. Secondly, the Western nations ar subjected to propaganda so that we sympathize with the Iranian freedom fighters.

LatinAmericanview · June 26, 2009, 12:19:13 PM

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Shades of the American 60s- Neda Soltan

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