A discussion between Rock Climber and Johnny Inhumanus

[Anonymous]

Rockclimber wrote:

maz wrote:

A message from Sane to the members of the Prison Planet forums

            Oh man, Cynthia McKinney is going on iamthewitness controlled opposition divide and conquer crap? Cynthia, iamtewitness is controlled op! British royals created Israel and control its foreign and domestic policies. When an Israeli puppet gets too big of a head and thinks he actually controls things, he is given a convenient stroke.



        Sane was challenged to prove that I Am The Witness was controlled opposition. There was no reply.

    He has no proof. It's the usual tactics that Jones-stein and company use on their enemies. (I'll sue you!)

    Funny how Sane calls DBS controlled opposition...for what, talking about the injustices occurring in Gaza? For exposing the genocide and crimes of evil 'Jewish' leadership?

    I don't know which is more laughable...the statement about Israeli puppets who are 'given a convenient stroke' or the Royals creating and controlling Israel....I know of one pig demon Israelie who had a stroke--Sharon. One person.

    the Royals created and control Israel? I suppose they forced Rothschilds hand when he signed the Balfour declaration. Those silly royals... calling for genocide in Palestine, man how those Israelies bow to the Royals!

    I suppose the royals are forcing the international zionists to control international banking? I suppose the royals are forcing zionists to own the media and hollywood?

    This one of their many lame assed attempts to control the message. SANE is IN-Sane and very, very pathetic. Nice work shabbas goy Jone-stein, your goons look sillier by the day. As I said before, Jones and goons cannot contain the truth. Sane is either a useful idiot or a horrible sayanim. It's a good thing that their are a lot of non-thinking morons at PP.

John Savage wrote

Ok RockClimber - Don't get upset with me

As far as My knowledge allows me to go, I don't think Rothschilds signed anything. The letter known as the Balfour Declaration is from Lord Balfour to Lord Rothschild. It would most likely be signed by Lord Balfour. You can find the original scanned copy online to verify.

Iamthewitness presents old propaganda books created by the Vatican and The portion of the British Israelite movement that broke away in the early 1920's, and nobility land owners getting a sense they were being pushed out as the system changed. As for Daryl I suspect he is in this fight for honest and real reasons.

The whole Zionist setup of Israel was started by freemason Richards Brothers, although he was locked up in the insane asylum for his ideas. Later the crown revived Brothers mumbo jumbo and used it as a political tool to gain a foot hold in the ottoman empire and they spent years making maps of Palestine, which were used in ww1. After ww1 there was a split in the British Israelite movement - The Dialectics if you will. Anyway the goal was to keep the balance of power and prevent any of the remnants of the ottoman empire from gaining to much power, all veiled in a beautiful mystical prophecy.

if you need examples
The suez war and neutralizing of egypt
the knighting of shimon perez

Just to offer you some food for thought

If you watched shows like Battlestar Galactica - answer the question - whose story is it?

Rockclimber wrote:

^^
My mistake, yes it was signed by Lord Balfour and it was addressed to Rothschild. The British needed Jewish money to finance WWI and the Jews in return get a declaration and a hideout for the international Jewish conspiracy. I tend to believe the Brits were hustled more so by the Jews than the Jews were by the Brits.

But and bottom line and lets cut to the chase...are you implying the British control the Israelies even to this day...and all facets of Zionism and their vast power, or is that a huge leap on my part? Are you in agreement with IN-SANE? If I'm assuming to much, my apologies.

We can move this to another thread as I do not want to further piss on or hijack this one and out of respect of the hard work that has gone into this effort.

[Anonymous]

But and bottom line and lets cut to the chase...are you implying the British control the Israelies even to this day...and all facets of Zionism and their vast power, or is that a huge leap on my part? Are you in agreement with IN-SANE? If I'm assuming to much, my apologies.

I guess what I am implying is that there is more to the story then is seen. It is my journey to solve the puzzle, cause it would suck to fight the wrong enemy.

The information that I have looked at points to a bond between Israel and the Crown. We would need to define The Crown, because it is much more then "The Royals"

The "Crown", or "High Cabal" in Winston Churchill's phrase, is the British Royal Family and its allied and inter-married European Royal/Noble Dynasties such as Hesse, von Thurn und Taxis, Orange, Mountbatten, Cecil, etc. ultimately at the helm of the currently dominant, parasitical world supra-organism or "ruling class/conspiracy."

The question I am currently working on is if there was a Spartacus moment where the slaves revolted and turned on their masters, In Spartacus the slaves are destroyed, although a there is a hint that it will continue.

Do British control the Israelies even to this day

This would be a good question to answer. One I currently can not answer due to the lack of information.

But I know
that the British were instrumental in the creation of Israel.

Take a look at the British Mandate - this was in place until the Jews could get on there own two feet. as well as many other countries around Israel that had mandates.

Britain was equally prepared to betray the French. Palestine was too valuable to share with a less powerful ally. British diplomats resolved to use the Zionist movement to gain full control of Palestine. The Zionists understood their potential role in the British Empire. Chaim Weizmann, the Zionist leader, wrote a 1914 letter to a British newspaper:

      hould Palestine fall within the British sphere of influence and should Britain encourage Jewish settlement... [we could] develop the country, bring back civilization to it and form a very effective guard for the Suez Canal.2 [emphasis added]

at least until 1948

Don't get me wrong Israel is wrong and committing crimes against the human race.

and all facets of Zionism and their vast power

by no means - remember Zionism underwent revision and split as well, See the Socialist Jew Lenny Brenner's work Age of dictators as 1 source

I know that Zionism was created by the British and used as a political tool, and even today it is still hard at work. The question is for whom?

I know British Israelism split in the 1920's those who still to this day support the Jews and those who felt betrayed and turned around and said the jews were not jews.

Are you in agreement with IN-SANE?

Do not know him and his views, but There is evidence of the collaboration.

In-Sane's Statement is inaccurate and not backed by evidence although there might be hints of truth to it.

I would love to discuss this further.

By the way I believe  that the Cylons from BattleStar G. are they Jews? and the Humans are the British Israelites.

[Free Truth]

See the Socialist Jew Lenny Brenner's work Age of dictators

Thanks for the recommendation. Looks good...

http://www.marxists.de/middleast/brenner/

[Yo Mama]

"British Israelism"?  :roll:

Is that like "Teutonic Zionism"?  :lol:

Somebody call Mookie Jones!  I'm feeling a Paytriotard moment coming on!  

[LatinAmericanview]

"British Israelism"?  :roll:

Is that like "Teutonic Zionism"?  :lol:

Somebody call Mookie Jones!  I'm feeling a Paytriotard moment coming on!  

 British is Israelism can be seen as the foundation for the Political Zionist movement. BI is the religious and intellectual framework for Jewish repatriation. So your momma you may want to learn a little about so you can make better informed statements.

[Yo Mama]

Paytriotard B.S.

It's just more "Blame Whitey" for the collective crimes of the Jews.  Mookie Jones makes a very good living off of this garbage.   :roll:

[LatinAmericanview]

Paytriotard B.S.

It's just more "Blame Whitey" for the collective crimes of the Jews.  Mookie Jones makes a very good living off of this garbage.   :roll:

[Yo Mama]

BLAME WHITEY!

 :lol:

[LatinAmericanview]

BLAME WHITEY!

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

That's a good one!

[Yo Mama]

Yep, it's those darn "British Israelites" and "Teutonic Zionists", I tell ya!  Oh, and don't forget about those evil "Nazi death cults"!



:lol:

[sullivan]

The information that I have looked at points to a bond between Israel and the Crown. We would need to define The Crown, because it is much more then "The Royals"

The Crown is the Crown Corporation, a cartel of (Jewish) Banksters operating out of the City of London.

[LordLindsey]

I think that "Melvin" said it best when he says that LAV is curious one indeed.  We are not fools here at TIU and to attempt to say that history is only 500 years old or so and THEN to try to bring in the "British Israelism" canard that was designed to confuse people to the truth of the Zionist plan makes me even more curious as to what you are trying to do here, LAV.  I am not alone in my concerns, and at this late date it looks like a lot of distractions are being thrown-out by certain people to make the lot of us look like fools in some instances.

"British Israelism" should fall-flat on its face in-light of what happened when the "Empire" was taken-over during the Victorian-Disraeli era and things really started to move in the direction we see now with Rotschild.  No amount of philosophy and deep discussion will change common sense and what the regular person is able to see with their own eyes when the FACTS are shown to them--saying that the world is 500 years old or so and then bringing in the canard of "British Israelism" is making me really wonder what the TRUE agenda is of some people.

This is all that I will say on this point, so you can post Star Trek photos of the Zionist Stewart with his head in his hands all day and all night long if you want--it will not change what a lot of people are seeing as curious behavior from people who are genuinely intelligent and knowledgeable bringing-forth information that doesn't hold water, and I just can't reconcile the divergent ideas together because this is not the behavior of someone who is doing a "pure-play" argument for the truth.

LINDSEY

[LatinAmericanview]

I think that "Melvin" said it best when he says that LAV is curious one indeed.  We are not fools here at TIU and to attempt to say that history is only 500 years old or so and THEN to try to bring in the "British Israelism" canard that was designed to confuse people to the truth of the Zionist plan makes me even more curious as to what you are trying to do here, LAV.  I am not alone in my concerns, and at this late date it looks like a lot of distractions are being thrown-out by certain people to make the lot of us look like fools in some instances.

"British Israelism" should fall-flat on its face in-light of what happened when the "Empire" was taken-over during the Victorian-Disraeli era and things really started to move in the direction we see now with Rotschild.  No amount of philosophy and deep discussion will change common sense and what the regular person is able to see with their own eyes when the FACTS are shown to them--saying that the world is 500 years old or so and then bringing in the canard of "British Israelism" is making me really wonder what the TRUE agenda is of some people.

This is all that I will say on this point, so you can post Star Trek photos of the Zionist Stewart with his head in his hands all day and all night long if you want--it will not change what a lot of people are seeing as curious behavior from people who are genuinely intelligent and knowledgeable bringing-forth information that doesn't hold water, and I just can't reconcile the divergent ideas together because this is not the behavior of someone who is doing a "pure-play" argument for the truth.

LINDSEY

LETS DEBATE.

[Anonymous]

The information that I have looked at points to a bond between Israel and the Crown. We would need to define The Crown, because it is much more then "The Royals"

The Crown is the Crown Corporation, a cartel of (Jewish) Banksters operating out of the City of London.

Ok can we isolate who the people are that are the directorate of "the crown"? These should be the target of our investigations.

[Anonymous]

I think that "Melvin" said it best when he says that LAV is curious one indeed.  We are not fools here at TIU and to attempt to say that history is only 500 years old or so and THEN to try to bring in the "British Israelism" canard that was designed to confuse people to the truth of the Zionist plan makes me even more curious as to what you are trying to do here, LAV.  I am not alone in my concerns, and at this late date it looks like a lot of distractions are being thrown-out by certain people to make the lot of us look like fools in some instances.

"British Israelism" should fall-flat on its face in-light of what happened when the "Empire" was taken-over during the Victorian-Disraeli era and things really started to move in the direction we see now with Rotschild.  No amount of philosophy and deep discussion will change common sense and what the regular person is able to see with their own eyes when the FACTS are shown to them--saying that the world is 500 years old or so and then bringing in the canard of "British Israelism" is making me really wonder what the TRUE agenda is of some people.

This is all that I will say on this point, so you can post Star Trek photos of the Zionist Stewart with his head in his hands all day and all night long if you want--it will not change what a lot of people are seeing as curious behavior from people who are genuinely intelligent and knowledgeable bringing-forth information that doesn't hold water, and I just can't reconcile the divergent ideas together because this is not the behavior of someone who is doing a "pure-play" argument for the truth.

LINDSEY

I don't recall claiming that history of the world is 500 years old. I may have said that paper being claimed older then 500 years should be not trusted and investigated due to the decomp rate of medieval paper and animal skins.

I do believe you missed the point about history.

you can't study the history of zionism unless you study the history of BI because they are connected.

British Israelism is Zionism if you care to dissect it.

I read that Rothschild and Rockefeller  are outside of "The Crown" although working for it.

Show me the FACTS

If you have evidence that contradicts the statements I made above, please feel free to provide it.

I know there are many British Israelites or Christian Identity or what ever name you want to call yourself on this forum.

You are the group that split after 1920's, you must know your own history.

[Yo Mama]

Okay, guys, I have to apologize.  It appears that I was wrong about this whole thing.

I just e-mailed Alex Jones' Jewess wife Kelly Rebecca Nichols, and she confirmed for me that it is indeed true that British Israelites, Teutonic Zionists,  Germanic death cults, Nazis, and racist eugenecist White males are the groups behind the New World Order.   :shock:



:lol:

[Ognir]

Cool a debate between LL & LaV

[LordLindsey]

A debate between YOU and LAV!!!  I have too much going-on, as if you can't tell!   :lol:

LINDSEY

[LatinAmericanview]

A debate between YOU and LAV!!!  I have too much going-on, as if you can't tell!   :lol:

LINDSEY

Look Lindsey,

The real problem with the truth movement is establishing a criteria for facts. For example is the Noah's ark story factual? Could such a small population of organisms account for the diversity seen today in the biosphere?  Treblinka- could that many people be processed in the manner described by modern historians? The Swine Flu with that many people infected where is the body count?

Inhumanus and I have tried to show that there is something seriously wrong with our current historical model. We do not have all the historical answers. We simply can illustrate what is clearly fallacious.  In respect to BI I believe that BI was an ideology created to give the Christian and Jewish foot soldiers  the religious justification, intellectual architecture and rationale to occupy the Sultan's land. However, under the veil of historical misrepresentation and theological magic the unsuspecting person attributes the historical narrative to well crafted lies and biblical realities.

The truth is much simpler than that. At various points in time there have been several factions in the ruling elites fighting for control of resources and agendas. No ruling group willing relinquishes power! The masses with ceaseless ability to believe in anything is used as battering ram against the established ruling elite until the elite concedes some power or lose it all together. BI is merely the cover story that has made a military outpost in Palestine psychologically acceptable to  the bulk of humanity.  The endless stories about Gaza and the martyrs fighting for justice is merely false opposition, true opposition and useful idiots parroting positions they do not clearly understand.

Maintaining conquered lands is always a tricky proposition. Winning the Hearts and Minds of conquered people is generally difficult because the indigenous population remembers life before the power switch-to this end propaganda is invaluable. If a people can be brainwashed into believing that they are better off than they were in the past then they would gladly accept the ruling power. The state is Israel is an expensive military outpost which becomes more expensive when anti-Zionist propaganda is main streamed . The real question should be who are the groups creating the propaganda and to what end?

[Yo Mama]

In other words...

BLAME WHITEY.

:roll:

[LatinAmericanview]

A debate between YOU and LAV!!!  I have too much going-on, as if you can't tell!   :lol:

LINDSEY

Look Lindsey,

The real problem with the truth movement is establishing a criteria for facts. For example is the Noah's ark story factual? Could such a small population of organisms account for the diversity seen today in the biosphere?  Treblinka- could that many people be processed in the manner described by modern historians? The Swine Flu with that many people infected where is the body count?

Inhumanus and I have tried to show that there is something seriously wrong with our current historical model. We do not have all the historical answers. We simply can illustrate what is clearly fallacious.  In respect to BI I believe that BI was an ideology created to give the Christian and Jewish foot soldiers  the religious justification, intellectual architecture and rationale to occupy the Sultan's land. However, under the veil of historical misrepresentation and theological magic the unsuspecting person attributes the historical narrative to well crafted lies and biblical realities.

The truth is much simpler than that. At various points in time there have been several factions in the ruling elites fighting for control of resources and agendas. No ruling group willing relinquishes power! The masses with ceaseless ability to believe in anything is used as battering ram against the established ruling elite until the elite concedes some power or lose it all together. BI is merely the cover story that has made a military outpost in Palestine psychologically acceptable to  the bulk of humanity.  The endless stories about Gaza and the martyrs fighting for justice is merely false opposition, true opposition and useful idiots parroting positions they do not clearly understand.

Maintaining conquered lands is always a tricky proposition. Winning the Hearts and Minds of conquered people is generally difficult because the indigenous population remembers life before the power switch-to this end propaganda is invaluable. If a people can be brainwashed into believing that they are better off than they were in the past then they would gladly accept the ruling power. The state is Israel is an expensive military outpost which becomes more expensive when anti-Zionist propaganda is main streamed . The real question should be who are the groups creating the propaganda and to what end?

In other words...

BLAME WHITEY.

This is why you win Yo Mama. Five words responses are much easier to create then thoughtful arguments. I suspect your response to this will be some AJ iconic photo deflecting thoughtful analysis.