Jewish Wikipedia admin that edits Alex Jones' page

Started by MikeWB, August 16, 2009, 03:58:37 PM

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MikeWB

I started reading  AJ's wikipedia page and then started looking at the discussion page and edit history page.

Well, well... guess what. Majority of edits of his page (vandalism removals, reference removals, etc) was done by a single admin. Who is this admin? Well, his name is Arthur Rubin and yes, he declares himself as Jewish: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Arthur_Rubin

However, he is a bit critical of Jones on the discussion page and calls him a "loon" but if you take a look at the series of his edits, he removes any criticism of Jones!

QuoteNow, look. I think Jones is a loon. (Sorry, acts like a loon.) But that doesn't mean that we can publish contraversial things about him without a reliable source. Videos are not reliable. Unfortunately, he can be used as a source for some things about him, even though nothing he says should be trusted. But we have to have standards. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 03:46, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Videos not reliable? What a mindfuck. I don't think I even understand fully what the heck is going on here.

Unbelievable... wherever you look into AJ's dealings, there's some Jewish guy running it all!

Look at this exchange:
QuoteArthur Rubin holds the record for being the most biased editor and super Troll Evadinggrid (talk) 15:25, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Weird. I'm trying to make sure that only reliable sources are used to defame Jones, much as he deserves it,, and Evadinggrid objects. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 19:03, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

So you admit that you defame Mr Jones. Well you must watch "Fabled Enemies" Arthur, it does a brilliant job of exposing the Israeli Connection. Evadinggrid (talk) 15:02, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

I haven't defamed Jones. I've been removing inadequately sourced material which is critical of Jones, as well as Jones's unsupported[1] assertions about third parties. As for defamation, I seem to recall he libeled a number of Wikipedia editors, including me, on one of his web sites. I can't find it on his websites now, but I admit I haven't looked closely. I've tried to be neutral, but denying that he's a sleaze would be wrong. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 15:34, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

I take it you still have not yet watched "Fabled Ememies". As to Mr Jones slandering Wikipedian Editors you have left a long trail of logged biased edits which would lead me to conclude your lawyer would not recommend taking it to court. Why do you not phone in to put your own viewpoint across ? Evadinggrid (talk) 16:12, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

For the last question, because I'm not a spin-artist as he is. If I controlled the microphone, so that my, even live, comments, were not edited out of context, I might consider it.
For the first, "biased" is too subjective for your statement to be relevant; the claims he's made that (except for clear vandalism), that false information was intentionally added to the article is clearly defamatory, and it's "libel", not "slander". Web sites are considered "fixed", although easily changable, so anything defamatory he writes on his web site is "libel". However, he hasn't said anything (that I've noticed) which is libelous "per se", so I'd have to prove actuai damages to win anything other than a retraction. Even though my online reputations does have some value, I'd have to prove it was affected negatively by Jones's rants.
On the other hand, if someone tracks me down and contacts my employer or neighbors, Jones will be high on my lawyers' summons list.
WP:NLT prevents me from discussing whether you could be sued for libel.
Perhaps the last few comments should be moved to a user talk page? It doesn't seem helpful toward improving the article. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 16:45, 21 September 2008 (UTC)



 Look at this comment from some guy:
QuoteMr. Rubin, I want to thank you for keeping a close watch on this page. Mr. Jones' InfoWars site has become a major news hub for birthers and more violent militia extremists in my personal watch on the blogosphere. His followers are increasingly paranoid, increasingly hostile, and increasingly scary.
For that reason, while I think you are doing yeoman's work in limiting the site to verifiable details about the man's views and methods, I would ask that you include outside links to information about his movement that aren't simply links to his site. People coming out of curiosity should have a critical perspective at hand, not simply more of Jones' own lunatic fodder. —Preceding unsigned comment added by A.k.a. (talk • contribs) 01:58, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Alex_Jones_(radio_host)
1) No link? Select some text from the story, right click and search for it.
2) Link to TiU threads. Bring traffic here.