NY Times: FBI Informant Recruits for Synagogue Bombings

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Rule of thumb: if someone asks you to blow something up, assume that he or she works for the government.

"Informer's Role in Bombing Plot" By WILLIAM K. RASHBAUM and KAREEM FAHIM
Published: May 22, 2009

Everyone called the stranger with all the money "Maqsood." He would sit in his Mercedes, waiting in the parking lot of the mosque in Newburgh, N.Y., until the Friday prayer was over. Then, according to members of the mosque, the Masjid al-Ikhlas, he approached the young men.

He asked Shakir Rashada, 34, if he wanted to come over for lunch. He offered Shafeeq Abdulwali, 39, a job, perhaps at his construction company. Jamil Muhammed, 38, said he was offered cellphones and computers.

The man, a Pakistani, occasionally approached the assistant imam of the mosque, proposing meetings, or overpaying for a sandwich he would buy at a mosque fund-raiser. In time, many of the mosque's older members had made the man for a government informant, according to mosque leaders. They said that he seemed to focus most of his attention on younger black members and visitors.

"It's easy to influence someone with the dollar," said Mr. Muhammed, a longtime member of the mosque. "Especially these guys coming out of prison."

The members of the mosque now believe that Maqsood was the government informant at the center of the case involving four men from Newburgh arrested and charged this week with having plotted to explode bombs at Jewish centers in New York City. The government has said that the four men, several of whom visited the mosque in Newburgh and all of whom spent time in prison, were eager to kill Jews, and prosecutors charged that they had actually gone so far as to plant what they believed to be bombs on the streets of New York, an act the F.B.I. captured on videotape.

Full article: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/23/nyregion/23informant.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=maqsood&st=cse

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THe NY Times always seems to have these stories but they never go anywhere. They had the World Trade center Bombing I stories but they have been lost and have become conspiracy theory fodder.  I suppose the real question is why I should take anything the NY Times seriously? It is all propaganda.

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THe NY Times always seems to have these stories but they never go anywhere. They had the World Trade center Bombing I stories but they have been lost and have become conspiracy theory fodder.  I suppose the real question is why I should take anything the NY Times seriously? It is all propaganda.

Well, you are right that the story went nowhere, as far as I can tell.  But could you expand on what you believe the purpose of this propaganda to be?

[LatinAmericanview]

THe NY Times always seems to have these stories but they never go anywhere. They had the World Trade center Bombing I stories but they have been lost and have become conspiracy theory fodder.  I suppose the real question is why I should take anything the NY Times seriously? It is all propaganda.

Well, you are right that the story went nowhere, as far as I can tell.  But could you expand on what you believe the purpose of this propaganda to be?

Power is the ability to create attitudes and foreign ideas in the minds of the masses. Reality is subjective and absolute reality is theoretical.   Absolute reality may exist but not perceived by the common man. In essence the common man creates his beliefs via the information that he or she is exposed to. In that respect, all of us are subject the conditioning process which delivered via propaganda. A way to understand this "News" story is to ask what was the perception that the story created? Was there an attitudinal shift? Did story fit into a prefabrication schema? The answer seems to be that is was a reinforcer or a booster for those that conceive the Jews as victims. It should be noted that the story gained no traction. My conclusions was that the FBI was on top of the terror threat, Jews are victims to religious zealots (Muslims),and the anti-zionist community was on top of the story. I do recall that there was bit of skepticism on the part of those that felt compelled to post comments. These were just observations. In short it felt like  mini-psyops aimed at tracking various memes within the America Population.

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The answer seems to be that is was a reinforcer or a booster for those that conceive the Jews as victims. It should be noted that the story gained no traction. My conclusions was that the FBI was on top of the terror threat, Jews are victims to religious zealots (Muslims),and the anti-zionist community was on top of the story. I do recall that there was bit of skepticism on the part of those that felt compelled to post comments. These were just observations. In short it felt like mini-psyops aimed at tracking various memes within the America Population.

My main question surrounds the reason for the reporting of the FBI's near-creation of the threat in the first place.  You are saying this was included just to see who would comment on it?

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that's why i call the DHS "Department of Israeli Homeland Security".

this also reminds me of Rumsfeld's "P2OG" program.  that was something early in their War on/or Terror scam/pogrom where they were somewhat open about what they were going to do.  P2OG was similar to the behavior described here, sort of to flush potentially violent Muslims "out of the woodwork", using whatever techniques necessary.

the Zionists consolidating & practicing their grip on American power.

this kind of activity is great for convincing the general public that the War on/of Terror (overseas contingency operation !?) is a legitimate activity/program.