Michael Collins Piper show -- another mixed bag this week

Started by RoaminLam, September 25, 2009, 03:23:34 AM

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RoaminLam

Is anyone else picking up on the **huge** logical disconnects that Piper endorses -- through his own presentation, or those of his favored callers?

On Tuesday, this guy Steve from Chicago spoke for a long time, very disjointedly yet much to Piper's approval, regarding the Nazi/Soviet annihilation of the Second Polish Republic in 1939. He opened up by mentioning the Curzon Line, as if it were some kind of holy writ. That was British Lord Curzon's 1919 determination of where the border between a newly-restored Poland and the newly Bolshevized Russia ought to be drawn. Steve from Chicago noted that the Nazi-Soviet partition line ran in [approximately] the same place, apparently as proof that this new border between Germany [not Poland!] and Russia was in exactly the right location.

There is an Alice-in-Wonderland-like quality to what passes for logic here. Moreover, it's bloodcurdling how these guys can exhibit the corpse of a major European nation, foully murdered, reminiscing fondly about the clinking of glasses that went on in Moscow and the joint victory parade in Brest-Litovsk. (Listen to Piper fume sometime about how the Israelis slaughtered the poor animals in the Gaza zoo last winter. What may we infer from this about Piper's view of Polish folk in the hierarchy of beings?)

Caller Steve added several, perfectly nonsensical details -- e.g., how the Soviet call signals in Minsk were set for the German aircraft to guide on, apropos of nothing. Steve sprinkled his monolog with the pejorative "polak," assuring us several times that he's "part Polish," so I guess that gives him license. Try using the n-word in a forum like this, assuring the host that you're part-nigger; see how far that would fly.

Then Mike and Steve went on at length, lamenting the malign, worldwide influence of the Brits, MI6, British machinations in WW II, history falsified by British victors, and how the Brits have penetrated the US patriot movement. Everything these guys said about "the Brits" was negative ... other than Steve's initial reference to British Lord Curzon's pronouncements about the proper division of Slavdom, which Piper endorsed.

Piper knows better. Compare this Brit-bashing with an assertion he makes on pages 39-40 of his most recent book, The New Babylon: "the Rothschild fortune . . . did become a central force in the international conduct of monetary policy and, as a consequence, in the conduct of the international policies of the various nation states . . . the Rothschild Empire remained a constant, ever-present force operating, not just behind the scenes, but quite overtly . . . as the British Empire -- in particular -- reached across the globe with, in many respects, the British Foreign office a virtual arm of the Rothschild dynasty."

It's hard to make sense of this. Is it the Brits ... or is it the Jews, who are normally Piper's main target, running the Brits from behind the scenes, much as these same Jewish money men have made the US their golem-goon in more recent times?

Piper is a lot smarter than his most favored callers like Steve, or Carolyn from Texas, who proffered similar drivel on the German-Polish conflict for well over 15 minutes at the end of his August 31st broadcast, to Piper's warm accolades. Neither of them knew what they were talking about. It's hard to believe that Piper does not understand this. Steve went on at some length about the Soviet mass murder of the POW officer corps and other Polish elites ... obviously struggling with the material. Jan Zawodny's Death in the Forest was an early, book-length treatment of this atrocity. Probably the best book to date in English is Allen Paul's Katyn: Stalin's Massacre and the Seeds of Polish Resurrection. (Incidentally, it was Stalin who gave the order, not Khrushchev, as Steve would have it.)

Steve's logic was elusive, but apparently the purpose of this particular digression was to emphasize the bestiality of the Soviets ... and thereby either divert attention from or, to some degree, excuse the [unmentioned] fact that the Germans were also up their eyeballs in Polish blood. Piper is happy to go along; he sweeps elephants and 800-pound gorillas under the carpet whenever this topic comes up, which, to my knowledge, has only happened on a couple of recent occasions -- and Steve referred to this caller explicitly. It could be that Piper secretly believes the slaughter of Polish people and destruction of their country is good riddance ... but hasn't quite got the cojones to come out and say it. He's too sharp, and too well read, not to know. Or, if he really doesn't know, then his ignorance is a bit too studied.

Piper's apologetics for Hitler and the Nazis does a great disservice to the US patriot movement -- all the more pernicious, given the loyal following his Final Judgment and other books have brought him. The US was conceived in a righteous insurgence against Despotism & Tyranny, both terms featured in the Declaration of Independence, and both being fair descriptors of the Nazi program. This jingoistic, Germanic chauvinism divides and besmirches the White mainstream of the patriot movement ... quite apart from anything that might be said in praise of the German people, or anything lamentable about Jewish infiltration, subversion and treachery, kicking into high gear during about the last hundred years of United States history. Moreover, the Nazis were anything but Christian, which our nation was, by common consent, at its inception.

In the present time of mounting chaos and danger, we naturally look back to first principles for understanding, guidance, and renewed definition of who we are as a people. Whether by conscious design, or an inexplicable moral blindness, Piper injects something ugly, deceptive and poisonous into the search his listeners are engaged in, through his adulation of Hitler and the Nazis.

MikeWB

Good post and good overview! I stopped listening to his show few weeks ago but someone did send me a link to a file in which George from Hungary starts praising Nazis and Stormfront etc. and MCP doesn't say a word of criticism to all of that. Sickening.

I'm still looking for a good daily show without the Nazi shit. I wish OG/DBS would start doing daily shows on one of the networks!

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kolnidre

Based on my admittedly cursory listening to Piper I get the feeling he really doesn't know much about Europe or WWII. In fact, I recall him saying as much not that long ago. This, if true, would open the show up to the impression that he endorses the views of callers, since he doesn't know or care enough to act as a moderator over such topics.

I'm giving him some benefit of the doubt here, but in this case I sense mostly ignorance on his part; he doesn't seem to have investigated it much in depth. Of course, if he isn't well versed in the history he shouldn't take a position on WWII and Hitler.

Excellent post, whatever the case. Much food for thought, and caution to never invest emotionally or intellectually in any one personality, host, or source of information.
Take heed to yourself lest you make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither you go, lest it become a snare in the midst of you.
-Exodus 34]

thirdeyewise

In one of his latest audios where he talks about the Kennedy assasination, he mention Jack Ruby as not being Israeli, what does he mean by that?
He does not say he was not Jewish, he says he was not Israeli, like there is much of a difference.



even Wiki admits this:

Jacob Rubenstein (March 25, 1911 – January 3, 1967), who legally changed his name to Jack Leon Ruby in 1947. Jack Ruby was born Jacob Rubenstein
to Joseph Rubenstein (1871–1958) & Fannie Turek Rutkowski (or Rokowsky) in Chicago, Illinois, in 1911, both Polish-born, Orthodox Jews.
One need not be a prophet to be aware of impending dangers. An accidental combination of experience and interest will often reveal events to one man under aspects which few see.

-F.A. Hayek