The Plot Against Art (in 2 parts)

[Shiksa Rage]

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/au ... -Artl.html

[Shiksa Rage]

Sorry,Here's the correct link:

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/au ... -ArtI.html
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/au ... ArtII.html

[kolnidre]

I just finished reading part one, but I'm already floored. That is one powerful, damning essay.

As a jazz fan, something I will never foresake, I always had a visceral contempt for so-called "free jazz." The essay reminded me of its nearly exclusive association with anger and political movements, and the ugliness that prepares the ground for desperation and hopelessness.

Of course, all of the jazz critics I can think of that promoted free jazz were members of the tribe; most jazz critics in general remain so today, and some like Nat Hentoff are explicitly associated with radical cultural movements.

Great find. I'll stop riffing and read part two now.

[Father Brown]

God is the ultimate artist.

Anti-Art is anti-God.

The nicest thing I can say about the Jews in this regard is that they had to control it as a commidity in order to participate in it. They don't seem to have much of a talent for creating things. And they never hung around in churches admiring beautiful things. That put them at a distinct disadvantage from the get-go.

E. MIchael Jones has much to say on this subject. And I basically paraphrased some of his ideas above.

There's a great audio file in which E. Michael Jones and Israel Shamir give a lenghty presentation. If anyone is interested, I will try and locate it and post it on this forum. It is basically a history of the Revolutionary Jews and not necessarily a talk on art.

Great find. Just bookmarked it and gave a quick glance. Looking forward to reading it in its entirity with much scrutiny.

[Father Brown]

I've just finished reading the entire article. This part caught my eye.

The Physical Impossibility of Death in the Mind of Someone Living by Damien Hirst (1991). Saatchi sold this work to collector Steven Cohen for $12 million, who in in turn donated it to the Museum of Modern Art.

The successful contemporary artist needs to be a person devoid of moral scruples. Confidence trickster, hustler, prostitute, pimp, he needs to mix with the right crowd and know whom to cultivate. "The artist who would be known," wrote the great folklorist Joseph Campbell, "has to go to cocktail parties to win commissions, and those who win them are not in their studios but at parties, meeting the right people and appearing in the right places." Campbell was later accused of anti-Semitism, but Jewish artist Julian Schnabel backs up Campbell's claim. "Much time is spent nurturing liaisons with creatures of the art world," he notes gloomily. "There is no time for friendship. Later, there is no capacity for it."

How much of this nonsense exists for these creeps to sell this crap to one another at ridiculous prices only to turn around and donate some of it for tax write-off purposes? Always an angle with this tribe.

Of course, it also serves the other purpose of driving up the value of their private "art" kept for personal investment as well as contributing to the undermining and despair this "art" is meant to cultivate.

These people sure do know how to churn the market.

[Shiksa Rage]

Here (Ihope) is the link you have been looking for:
http://www.archive.org/details/IsraelTh ... matism_471
The talk was given in Westminster Cathedral in London. Lady Michele Renouf was there Because she asked a question. Dr James Dickie was also there, I remember him telling DBS so.

http://www.aschive.org/details/IsraelTh ... mitism_471

[Shiksa Rage]

Feck all that shite. Key in:
http://www.culturewars.com/
Then click on the podcastlink on the left of the screen, and the one you want will be at the top

[scorpio]

Well, as a professional artist, I would like to give my observations.
Anti-art is most of the modern art movements after the impressionists.
When I was in art school it was mostly jew professors hyping jewish modern artists.
Anything else was 'passe' or eye candy'
soup cans, cartoons, paint splashes: all genuis if a fellow ziotribe member created it.
The art world is almost  totally controlled by 'them'  galleries, dealers, critics.
This is something I have experienced - not something I googled  
I have seen amateur crap sell for over $50,000
I mean for God's sake, Whorhall used a photographic printing process to copy the soup can images and the monroe pics.
Then he just colored them in - That's not genius - it's a jewscam!

[kolnidre]

I recognized the reference to logos, or the perfection of creation (whether God's or not), at the beginning of the article. Wondered if it was a coincidence or a direct application of E. Michael Jones's key thesis.

I no longer allow myself to feel awe or fear of a parasitical tribe that only exercises creativity in the negation of creation itself; in its deceptive selling of schlock and kitsch, of evil as good; of a book loaded with absurdity and contradiction that magically gives them license to exercise dominion over the whole of the creation they so vehemently seek to destroy.

Some time many years ago I was struck by the realization that there is no true creativity beyond what already exists, only cleverness. The distinction is as relevant as that between knowledge and wisdom. An imperfect order of man foolishly seeking to "create" perfection is precisely what the Novus Ordo Seclorum is all about. As the underlying philosophy behind this compulsion is entirely Jewish it is thus rightly described as the Jew World Order.

Tikkun Olam, my arse!

[Father Brown]

Feck all that shite. Key in:
http://www.culturewars.com/
Then click on the podcastlink on the left of the screen, and the one you want will be at the top

Thanks, buddy. That is indeed what I was talking about.

I urge all to listen to this, it was a very good talk.

[Father Brown]

Some time many years ago I was struck by the realization that there is no true creativity beyond what already exists, only cleverness. The distinction is as relevant as that between knowledge and wisdom. An imperfect order of man foolishly seeking to "create" perfection is precisely what the Novus Ordo Seclorum is all about. As the underlying philosophy behind this compulsion is entirely Jewish it is thus rightly described as the Jew World Order.

I enjoyed your entire post, but I will limit my response to the above. I am a Traditional Catholic, so I want to state that clearly so you know where I am coming from. However, what I will have to say also fits into a secular model if one only tries.

St. Thomas Aquinas recognized that objects have meaning. They have in them the meaning that was intended by their human creator. But, that can only exist within the context of Logos. A right order to things and the understanding that we are subservient to something. This something can either be God or some other type of beauty found in a secular philosophical system.

This type of "art", modern art, is receiver based. For instance, you may have heard the line, "the meaning is found in the receiver rather than the sender". Another way of saying this is, "perception is reality". This is a break from Logos. At best, we can say it is undisciplined.  
Now Logos for me and many others is God Himself, the Most Holy Trinity. But, for a secular person it could simply mean the right way of doing things for the greater good of society. Without some type of disipline, we become "gods" ourselves as we determine the meaning to all the objects and things that are produced. This is a type of religion what is not easily seen. Multi-Culturism as practiced here in the States immediately comes to mind. But there are many forms this new religion takes.

If this is allowed to go on unfettered, we will eventually have as many religions and "deities" as there are people. And this breakdown, or process, became very evident in the '60s here in the USA. But this can only go on for so long. What follows is the jack-booted Nazi model which will tie us all down to their perception and we will all be following their disipline soon.

This is a very rich topic that bleeds into understanding of mass media as well. I hope this thread keeps developing and look forward to other people's ideas on the subject.

To recap, I think what you mean by cleverness is a type of production rather than creation. And I think you are definitely on to something.

[AbdulHaq]

I have seen amateur crap sell for over $50,000
I mean for God's sake, Whorhall used a photographic printing process to copy the soup can images and the monroe pics.
Then he just colored them in - That's not genius - it's a jewscam!

Alot of times, Whorhall wasn't even the one doing the coloring

[scorpio]

All of this reminds me of a documentary movie called  Who the Bleep is Jackson Pollock
Its about a retired female truck driver who bought a painting for $5 at a garage sale. She showed it to
some friends who thought that it might be an original Jackson Pollock painting.
She tries to get it authenticated. Expert after expert looks at it. Some say its real some say no.
Who could tell? It's just a bunch of paint splatters, after all!!

Its a really great flick - especially when you see the 'experts' talking about the painting.
It would have been worth $50 million if it were real.  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:



An example of the genius's work


Is her painting real? you decide  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

[Shiksa Rage]

It looks like somebody's been out on the lash and puked their guts up :lol:  :lol:

[jai_mann]

Ever since I was little I've hated the "modern art" scene. The work associated with it was work that I could do which meant it took relatively LITTLE talent. I did spend time when I was younger painting miniature figures and I did a very small amount of sculpting. In both of these areas I had some talent but it wasn't something that I pursued. On the other hand, my attempts at drawing and painting were miserable failures which made me realize the talent that went into capturing real life on a 2 dimensional space.

It makes sense that the garbage being hawked as the latest thing comes from the tribe. When one of the tribe members who worked in my lab was leaving she had a bunch of stuff for sale in her apartment and this included artwork which she really tried hard to sell me. I can't remember the artist but I'm positive it was a jew and I remember it being UGLY. It wasn't the kind of thing that I would want hanging in any of my rooms.

These bastards use their control of the money supply to promote garbage in every sector of life that they can. Look at some of their major figures in any given field and then look at their work and it's abundantly clear that they DON'T contribute much of quality to society. The first time I saw one of those paintings with splashes of color all over it was in another jew's residence. It didn't strike me as ANY THING special because someone as untalented as ME in art could have made it.

Their key to success is controlling productivity via money which allows them to hawk garbage in every other sector: art, movies, science, public schools...the list goes on...

[Jenny Lake]

I'm also a painter and musician and care very deeply about this subject having direct experience with the commercial powers that be. Some years ago I saw the film "Basquiat" about the rise of Carribean-born Jean-Michel Basquiat who made it to New York somehow, lived in poverty, and was 'picked-up' by the intelligentsia high-dollar art world. Over the span of a decade Basquiat spun out in a mire of heroin addiction and no one seemed to help --the film was tragic and damning, but after reading this article, not damning enough. His handlers had him convinced of his own genius which was not reflected back in the world around him --the non-art world. http://www.foreignfilms.com/film.php?as ... uiat+(1996)

[MikeWB]

Excellent set of articles! Knew nothing about art and now I know  a fair bit about their influence on it.

[celticwarrior]

that's good, MikeWB.

I work as a painter and actor.
As you are aware, I studied art at an art college near London in the late 1960's.  
It was a time of great questioning of and challenges to previously accepted social norms in all areas of culture:  politics, music, art, cinema, literature, interpersonal relationships and mores.

Recognising the growing social conscience and spending power of the developed world's youth, the zionazi-controlled, transnational crime gang quickly took over the direction and management of this lucrative new market
As with the jazz, folk, pop, and rock music industries, these criminals saw that by promoting 'alternative' art ie: expressionism, dadaism, minimalism, conceptualism etc.. they could better achieve their goals of profiting fom the goyim whilst weakening their sense of social worth and what is beauty.

[scorpio]

these criminals saw that by promoting 'alternative' art ie: expressionism, dadaism, minimalism, conceptualism etc.. they could better achieve their goals of profiting fom the goyim whilst weakening their sense of social worth and what is beauty.

exactly  :geek:  :roll:

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Reminds me of this quote:

-----
An Army officer born in 1878, later recalled:

"Returning home, we no longer found an honest German people, but a mob stirred up by its lowest instincts. Whatever virtues were once found among the Germans seemed to have sunk once and for all into the muddy flood....
Promiscuity, shamelessness, and corruption reigned supreme. German women seemed to have forgotten their German ways. German men seemed to have forgotten their sense of honor and honesty.  Jewish writers and the Jewish press and the Jewish Arts could 'go to town' with impunity, dragging everything into the dirt."

[scorpio]

:shock:  
CSR - Somehow that sounds familiar....
I can honestly say, after 20 years in the art business, that it has become the sleasiest, con-job operation you could imagine.

I can say that in the SF art market, a lot of Chagall paintings and limt. ed. lithos have come on the market in recent years.
Not selling - the price just keeps going down...
(In my opinion, Chagall's work was nothing more than glorified cartoons, with a very yiddish flavor as well.)
The 'modern art' world is primarily a fraud, IMHO, of course.