Kaminski versus Constantine

[silverbeam]

Kaminski versus 'Constantine'


KAMINSKI – Independent American writer and evangelical atheist, seems like a good bloke. For more information, google John Kaminski and apply brain to the results.

SAINT CONSTANTINE THE GREAT – Founder of Christendom, warrior, philosopher, King. Liberator of the ancient, underground Church who had struggled FOR 300 YEARS to keep the rumor of Jesus alive under the yoke of the Satanic Pharisees and the dying remains of the polytheistic Roman Empire. Defender and Servant of the One, Holy, Universal and Apostolic Church, known today as the Orthodox Church. Banner of Usury. Completely fucking rocking historical personage, okay? One of our gentiles ancestors right? A pretty cool one at that, IMIO. Absolutely nothing to do with the 1000 year old institution that calls itself 'the Roman Catholic Church.' and that is 'led' by the 'Pope.' No involvement whatsoever in the feeble attempt by over-rationalizing European thinkers to salvage something Christian from the horror and stupidity of life under the 'Popes.' by making themselves little popes all of their own. No connection whatsoever with any modern movement calling itself Christian, that is not in communion with the The Holy Orthodox Church of the East. For more information google Orthodox Church History or St. Constantine the Great and apply brain to results.

And remember, infiltration is inevitable, but futile, in a tradition with no central leadership. Its like trying to get rid of Hinduism – good fucking luck, losers  

Okay, look: There was this guy, he lived in what I now call Palestine, but what some now call Israel. No-one had a problem with him until he turned thirty and started openly accusing rabbis of satanism. He did this for three years and got quite a following as he gave open air talks on the religious/political conspiracy of his time, to anyone who would listen. He was literally unbeatable in his logic, rationality, moral understanding, compassion, wisdom, and you name it. Some said he was the messiah, others said a prophet, his closest friends suspected the former, but had been expecting something different, and struggled to reconcile the messianic promise as the rabbis interpreted it – a political leader who would conquer the world by force on behalf of the chosen – with their mates strategy – what I like to call 'suicide speech.' At any rate, he had balls, and no-one could stop him. At the end of the three years they killed him. And that would have been that, his followers cowering in the upper room, hiding from the pharisaic fuckers while everyone else got back to sucking the dick of Authority, or suffering under the rabbis sick twisting of pretty much any thing good that was ever said or done by anyone anywhere ever, and their technique of pretending God hates pretty much everyone, a technique that they later passed onto the fucked-out eurotrash in the west when they started the utter crock of steaming turd that is catholicism/protestantism, cos they couldnt get that shit past St Constantine the Great a thousand years before. Okay, sorry, nothing personal. No-one should have to answer for the conditions of their birth. Back to the story: Yeah, life went on

Oh Lord! Tell you what, I reckon there's enough search terms in there to get you uber-rationals going. Those who are ready for deeper truths that is.

Sorry John, I like you, but I'm fed up with your shit. I have, in the past, been known to eat my own vomit, but I have always done my level best to avoid eating anyone else's. When you write such cool stuff, interspersed with channelled aliens and anti-religious diatribe, then get on the air with Daryl and say you would never try to change someone's mind about God?

Happily, there are many confused but genuine people who think science is a noun and not a verb, so I reckon your just misled.

Try The Orthodox Church mate, whose existence was last admitted in western media when the pharisaic supremacists ordered Clinton to bomb the fuck out of Serbia, cos those damn Orthodox Christians with their freedom bullshit just wont shut up and die.

The blood of the matyrs is the seed of the Church, suckers, so look at the last century and get ready for some sprouts I'd say, me being one of them Where sin abounds, grace abounds more, you cannot win, you just want to take as many souls with you as you can.

You say in your fractal psychology piece that it has been absolutely proven that Jesus never lived. As usual, you did not cite a source for your 'Big Lie.' I did not expect the TIU boys to let this bullshit go, but, it seems, everyone wants to forget Jesus and WHAT HE ACTUALLYY DID AS A FREE MAN, REGARDLESS OF HIS CLAIM TO DIVINITY, just like the good little Judaized 'intelligentsia' should. I am ashamed of you all. Daryl, I forgive, cos he's sweetly naïve, but you guys are supposed to be guns for disinfo yeah? Anyway, I cant let it slide, I love St. Constantine and I pray often to his last successor the Tsar-Matyr Nicholas.

So John, Substantiate or fuck off.

Your out of your league.

For everyone else – I think fomenko is disinfo. The history cover up is simple: Don't talk about Orthodox Christianity or the Orthodox Church ever. Never, under any circumstances, talk about the history of the Eastern Roman Empire and its continuation under the Russian Tsars (Russia is also known as The Third Rome), unless it is absolutely necessary. At any rate, never call it The Eastern Roman Empire or anything descriptive like that, call it Byzantine, we've already associated that word with the idea of something that's fucked up and shit, okay?

And if you think the protocols do a good job of describing the results of murdering the last Christian King (he who restrains in St. Paul's prophecy concerning the time of Satan's free reign), google 'the prophecy of St. John of Kronstadt' and enjoy the chills

Okay, that's enough I reckon, don't like to be rude, but I needed to say that shit with power.

God forgives.

PS. Notice how John followed his own technique for lying? If you believe this whopper (Constantine was a jerk), you'll believe anything (Jesus never lived, that jerk Constantine invented him).

Fuck'n snake.

Google this stuff and compare to Kaminski's rot, it'll only take a second.

I'm happy to be wrong, just show me where I've been tricked and Ill concede defeat.

'Those who forsake thy law praise the wicked, but those that keep thy law contend with them.'

[silverbeam]

On re-reading my post, I realise I have been a bit ambiguous.

I kind of need to re-arrange the paragraphs, It sound like Im saying John is an evil agent of satan or something.

Ninth paragraph does not refer to Mr Kaminski, but to christian slayers.

Sorry

[silverbeam]

Well, I had a hard time sleeping last night thinking about my post. I wanted to say something a while ago when I first read the article and listened to the audio in question, but I expected others on this forum to do so, and I was waiting for the questions to start pouring in. I had had an especially bad yesterday and when I finally got to a computer that would let me use the net I was pretty pissed off. It seemed no-one was asking the questions that were burning in my brain so I let loose. I've been kicked off a couple of Christian forums in the past for attacking Christian Zionism in the same way, just going straight for the throat, you know? Those experiences were so painful I didn't join a forum for years. Truth is, I would never speak to anyone's face that way, and I hope that if I ever do, they smack me across the head and tell me to wake up .

So I sincerely apologise for the manner in which I expressed myself and I hope anyone who may have been offended will forgive me. And forgive me God for representing your Holy Church in such an un-Christian way.

Still, my questions remain, and now I have a few more, so this time Ill just ask them of everyone,  adding my own viewpoint, and see what happens.

Why did Daryl rightly and with knowledge destroy Mr. Gates 9/11 mistake, but not even challenge Mr. Kaminski's assertion that there were no planes? He did not agree to disagree with Gates, he ripped into him and I enjoyed it. Maybe because John is his friend? I would love to see the evidence supporting this theory.

When did no-planes become the consensus of the truth movement and why didn't I notice?

Remember, at the moment, that interview is the first audio a newcomer to TFC is likely to listen to and that statement should have been dealt with at the time it was said so people don't write TFC off as a source after hearing such an outrageous claim go unchallenged.

Why the absolute denial of Christ, even the facts of his earthly life, but the subtle promotion of Islam? For example, calling it 'Islamic banking.' Makes it sound like they invented it. We should just call it normal banking or moral banking or something. The term Christian banking would be just as accurate, after all, they were doing it first. I'm not bashing Islam or Muslims or suggesting a conspiracy, it just seems to be something TFC has been doing for a while, just seems worth a question. It wasn't the Islamic culture that built the Empire whose prosperity and riches became the envy of the world, it was the Eastern Christians. Islam was the movement that finally overcame vast portions of that Empire, leaving only Holy Russia to carry the torch to the very end. Surely the new Testament is more relevant to our struggle than the Koran.

Why would anyone in the truth movement do anything to undermine another persons faith at this point in time?

Cant we just let people have their faith and their hopes and their heros?

Remember when that Christopher guy with the Einstein book suggested that Christianity was invented by the liars as a part of the plot?

That was one of the scariest ideas I have ever heard. If my faith is just another form of manipulation and I am responsible for furthering the cover-up as long as I hold to it, I really want to know. But it just doesn't make sense, I don't think.

So, all I want to do is stick up for logic, reason, rationality and the scientific method. I believe Orthodox Christianity needs more exposure. It amazes me how so many researchers could be so ignorant about it. But then, the word ignorance seems to imply that something has been ignored, and ignoring what Christians say about things is pretty much run-of-the-mill for most people, due to the massive disinfo that western churches have spread for centuries.

Thanks for reading, hope its food for thought

'Science does not proceed from the unknown to the known, but from the known to the unknown.'

[Wimpy]

Sliverbeam, I think DBS and some others are only attempting to avoid confusing the message.  After all, how many Christian Zionists do you know whom will turn a deaf ear at the mere mention of Jews?  How about using the word Zionist,  which I have discovered, inspires righteous and dreamy thoughts about Mount Zion?  Frustrating and frightening, I say.

Keeping the message focused on the Criminal nature of the perpetrators is probably the best approach towards reaching a receptive audience.  Exercising our Right to religious belief should remain personal and devoid of proselytizing, particularly if it appears to be offered as a solution to the Criminal problem.  I certainly don't want anyone forcing their religion on me as I would never attempt to force my religion upon them.  Yet another reason for the 2nd Amendment!

[silverbeam]

Yes, I see your point, thankyou.

I got over paranoid and jumped the gun a bit. Been listening to TFC from nearly day one and got there through Mr. Kaminski, so these men are some of my heros, don't get me wrong. I just want to make the point that I did not join this forum to talk religion. I wouldn't do that. I don't even like talking about religion, I avoid such discussions like the plague. And Ill tell you why:

I responded to something posted on TFC that I think we can learn from if we want to. If it seemed I was suggesting a certain religion be promoted anywhere, by anyone other than me, It wasn't my intention. I said that stuff about Islam and the planes and all that because I suffer from spontaneous involuntary conspiracy theorizing, and I thought the questions interesting. The promotion of a particular religious position is precisely my problem with the article. Could you print that article out and use it to help people wake up? No, its an opinion piece about religion.

I have provided information that has been omitted or obfuscated for the sake of clarifying what we can or cannot know. I wanted to try to show that the secular mantra of 'religion is only used to control people' does not bear critical analysis. The claim that people only believe government lies because they first accepted a religion cannot go unchallenged, especially if it appears on such an important site.

I have been incarcerated and forcibly medicated with ssri's (inducing akithisia) more than once because I have been deemed insufficiently irreligious by jerks who think rejecting 'religion' makes them experts on it and gives them the right to try to eliminate it from my mind pharmacologically, for my own good, of course. To eliminate my delusions and fix my behavior.

It's a philosophical question rather than a religious one. That's why I posted it under philosophy.

There is no such thing as 'religion,' there are only religions, many and diverse. To make statements about 'religion' without specifying the particular religion in question is to say nothing at all. Blaming 'religion' for anything is just an abuse of the English language. Same with the word science. They are both verbs, really. And we should be very careful about this. With a little bit more critical thinking, a stricter application of the scientific method (please don't pretend it is possible to determine the veracity of the claim, 'God responds to prayer' without sincerely praying and seeing what happens), and maybe just a hint of humility (not popular in America I know) I'm sure we could all learn a great deal more about reality and get even better at making sense of things.

Getting all the worlds religions and bunching them together in a category labelled 'religion' and then saying stuff about it and pretending your actually talking about anything meaningful is the main way that 'religion' is used to control people in our world. It is opposed to 'science' and Hegel has a chuckle. It's in the protocols.

It can be difficult to think these things through, especially if we are justifiably afraid of being taken in by a false religion, and emotionally and manipulated and stuff, but I have an advantage in that I live with an NLP master practitioner and I have observed their techniques. I also tried a bunch of religions before I settled on the one that came through with the goods. I have also been studying theology for a long, long time, so I'm not afraid to speak on it.

When a person says 'I have determined that there has never been a religious explanation for reality that can lead to a greater union with that reality.' (which is the essence of the anti-religious position) you are asking people to believe that you are the final arbiter of all religious and philosophical questions without even having to go through them all.

You are essentially asking me to worship you.

This is because if one does not worship God, one worships mankind, or oneself, or nothing. If that's a man's religion, fine. All I ask is that he keep it to himself, or give me a damn good reason for listening to anything he says on the subject of the world's religions ever again.

Most people I know reject 'religion' because it requires a restraint of sexuality, and recognition of a power and wisdom beyond human. Not because it is irrational, illogical, or a bunch of ridiculous claims that are impossible to prove.

I feel it is unwise to preach against 'religion' at this time. Anti-religion has no place in conspiracy theory, and never will. It is a propaganda tool, and no use to us at all. It is toxic philosophy, spit it out.

That's what I reckon anyway.

Anti-religion breeds hopelessness, because it pretends to know for certain that all hope beyond this world is empty, and then the fear campaign becomes a problem it doesn't have to be. There is always room for doubt, especially in the heart of a righteous atheist.

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When people would come troubled that Antichrist was deceiving the people, that there would be wars and other such things, Fr. Cleopa would say with a strong voice, 'The father is at the helm!' And he would read verse 10 from Psalm 32: 'The Lord scattereth the plans of the heathens, He setteth aside the devices of the peoples, and he bringeth to nought the plans of princes.'

Then he would strengthen them: 'Do not be troubled and do not be afraid, because it will not be how they want it to be. Oh, how much they would like to do something! But don't be afraid. Pray and make the sign of the cross and all the demons will flee!'

From 'Shepherd of Souls – The Life and Teachings of Elder Cleopa, Master of Inner Prayer and Spiritual Father of Romania (1912 – 1998).

The western Churches are said by the Orthodox to be Judaized. That is, they have taken Christianity and turned it back into a codified system of thought and behavior, outside of which there is no salvation, creating a 'special group.' One type makes a single man infallible without whom you will burn in created flames, the other type makes the individual believer the sole authority through private interpretation of scripture (leading to thousands of sects). Religious disinfo courtesy of you know who imho. The Orthodox Church has never taught these lies and never will. Christians who believe them simply haven't found the Church yet. Heaven and Hell are not places God sends people. They are states we choose to leave this world in for the next. Its just you and your conscience ultimately, and if you want you can hang out in a beautiful temple and pray with others. Or not. Its important to study a religion before you judge it.

'He who makes peace with himself, makes peace with Heaven and Earth.' St. Isaac the Syrian.

I'll piss off now and let you all get back to fighting crime. Watch the NLP, we need to be aware of how words and their associations are abused. Don't be dumb. Never give up, victory is ours.

'Freedom is the right of all sentient beings.' - Optimus Prime.

[Wimpy]

Silverbeam, I do understand your POV.  

My post was speculative regarding the written and spoken views of the people you had mentioned (DBS, Kaminski,...).  Frankly, I admire the pure essence of most religions but find distasteful the bastardization that seems to creep in.  When you refer to Orthodox Christianity do you mean Greek, Russian or something else?

I generally find religious people, for one reason or another, to be rather myopic.  If the subject matter agrees and is within the bounds of their doctrine they are receptive;  outside the boundary a complete mental blockage occurs.  No different, I suppose, than a brain washed atheist.  Another stumbling block regarding religious zeal is reticence to become involved with any group, formally or informally, beyond their immediate religious support group with the possible exception of a recruitment drive.

The criminal Zionist Gang wields their "religious" identity as a weapon of mass destruction.  By their actions they have exposed their religion to the scrutiny it deserves.  Unfortunately, when we find ourselves scrutinizing Zionism/Talmudism/Judaism, we must also be prepared to scrutinize Christianity, the Muslims and any other religion too.  For this reason we might wish to avoid diversionary  battles  based on religious beliefs and stick to safer and more pragmatic arguments based on criminality.  Just a thought and clarification of my previous post.