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[Ognir]

From myself and Daryl, FUCK 67% bollock

[Chargeemquick]

Do you suspect widespread vote-rigging Ognir,or is it that you just can`t believe that the sheeple have swallowed the bait?

[sullivan]

Do you suspect widespread vote-rigging Ognir,or is it that you just can`t believe that the sheeple have swallowed the bait?

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What do you think? Is it possible? Yes indeed it is.  The ballot boxes were flimsy plastic affairs, similar to something used for kitchen waste. They didn't look secure, and the video above shows that the security at lease one major count centre was extremely lax.

[celticwarrior]

from what I could see in Dublin Castle, security was fairly tight with gardai and private security gaurds in evidence watching the proceedings and count clerk supervisors walking up and down around the tables;

but, there is a possibility that boxes could have been tampered with en route between the voting stations and the count centres around the country
although I would be very surprised if the boxes were not under continuous mobile gardai surveillance all the way;

I know it is appealing to our acute sense of suspicion about vote rigging by our enemies, considering the dreadful examples we've seen elsewhere,
but in this instance, I genuinely believe that the referendum count process was conducted above board

I emphasise the obvious here, but naturally, I wasn't able to be everywhere and wouldn't know how good the security was anywhere else outside Dublin

[§N9sh2bj]

IRELAND, or whatever the name is for the 'Government', is just a corporation - nothing more. Look it up on dnb.com under whatever gaelic name it uses.

The vote serves two purposes: It is an opinion poll, to see how 'they' are doing (the funny handshake crew, etc)

And it serves as a contract. When some one, a real living member of mankind, puts his (or her) signature on the paper, to 'submit' the application, that is a contract with the corporation. No one forced them to do it (otherwise the autographer could 'sign' under duress, rendering the autograph meaningless), no one put a gun to your head, that would be slavery. Everything is voluntary. Among other things, it probably is a contract that the man who signs, agrees to abide by whatever rules or decisions the corporation makes. Some other people may believe it's the social insurance contract (application) which does this, but that probably has more to do with agreeing to be responsible (liable) for the debt of the corporation.

The Government of Ireland has nothing to do with the people. The people are the de jure government of ireland, as probably none of the corporate officers hold dual positions; de facto & de jure simultaneously. It requires research (work), going to libraries, asking the right kinds of questions to the right kinds of people, to find out what these de jure positions are. Some of that information is buried along with your grandparents, and this is why their information can be so useful.

If you know who you are, a living man - short for a living member of mankind, and not a corporate fiction, a 'Mr.' or 'Mrs.' or 'Ms.' or however 'they' address the corporate fiction, the juristic person - you realize their private law (rules, statutes) have nothing to do with you, and can proceed from there. I recommend all-out commercial warfare with the corporation. This is already happening in the states, and 'they' know it, however, you will never hear about it on 'their' evening news. It re-asserts the rights of the people, that they should not be abridged, under any circumstances, and is much more effective than military warfare, which are solutions for the ignorant.

Every claim without a contract is a trespass on the person. A simple 146 U.S. Dollar traffic ticket can end up being millions of dollars, valued at billions of U.S. Dollars, the lawful definition of 'a dollar' being a one-ounce measure of .999 silver. A correctly-done maritime lien against the assets of the corporations, the Government, sub-corps, including juristic persons, where most assets (houses, cars, bank accounts) are registered, maintains for fifty years even after the death of the party creating the lien. This locks the assets of the corporation(s) named down; they can't engage in commerce (for instance, to get a loan). And you can see what happened to the GM corporation when the Bonds would not roll over due to Rothschild shutting down all credit; they ended up in bondage.

I have stayed in on the island of the irish people. The problem is for the most part - and mechanically following through with what the corporate Church prescribes does not count - the people have abandoned their faith, and have also abandoned their credit. They have no idea how to construct a letter of credit, besides what the agents for the corporate Bank create in a contract for them to sign when they 'want to 'buy' a house'. They (the people) create these funds with an unrestricted signature on the contract, and never ask for a receipt.

If it comes down to a 'forced jab', and it never will because everything is voluntary - you throw yourself into hell - then it will be like the order from Rosenfeld (Roosevelt), that "All U.S. Persons should turn in their gold to the nearest private Federal Reserve Bank branch."

Are you a "U.S. Person"?

[sullivan]

I know it is appealing to our acute sense of suspicion about vote rigging by our enemies, considering the dreadful examples we've seen elsewhere,
but in this instance, I genuinely believe that the referendum count process was conducted above board

I disagree. While I'm not saying that fraud definitely took place, the 20% swing is way too much. 5-10% would be believable, 20% is stretching it a bit.

[Chargeemquick]

I know it is appealing to our acute sense of suspicion about vote rigging by our enemies, considering the dreadful examples we've seen elsewhere,
but in this instance, I genuinely believe that the referendum count process was conducted above board

I disagree. While I'm not saying that fraud definitely took place, the 20% swing is way too much. 5-10% would be believable, 20% is stretching it a bit.

I agree.I can`t believe the sheeple think that Ireland will be better off by voting yes.Not to mention the "bullying" factor.

[Shiksa Rage]

It seems that the sheeple have been fooled by the globalist elite's bribery and scare mongering offensive. Sadly, most people still believe what politicians and the MSM tell them, and this same MSM has convinced them that the likes of us are tin foil hat wareing conspiracy nut jobs. Of course, nobody wants to be ridiculed as a nutjob, therefore these folk can happily vote 'Yes' while at the same time feeling superior to the likes of us, who are, of course, conspiracy wackadoos.