Best US jobs report my ass

[sirbadman]

Even the Financial Times has gone along with this best US employment numbers BS!

Thousands of brain dead stories on this horse shit :http://news.google.com.au/nwshp?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&hl=en&tab=wn&q=best%20us%20jobs%20report

Below is a fair interpretation of the figures:

http://nyinvestingmeetup.blogspot.com/2 ... dd-up.html

The U.S. government figures were not completely rosy by any means. They indicate that there were major job losses in Manufacturing and Construction, a significant drop in Information and in Leisure and Hospitality jobs, and amazingly a drop in Retail jobs during the height of the holiday season. U.S. Manufacturing employment fell by 41,000 in November and has declined by an eye-popping 2.1 million since the recession began in December 2007. Construction jobs fell by 27,000. There was also a loss of 17,000 jobs in the Information industries (half of that in telecommunications). Leisure and Hospitality lost 11,000 jobs. Jobs in retail declined by 15,000. You would not know this from reading the BLS press release however, unless you looked at the data attached to the bottom of it. The copy did not mention that there was a job loss in retail, but instead stated "there was little change in wholesale and retail employment".

So where did the job gains come from? Three categories had increases in employment -Professional and Business Services, Education and Health Services and Government. Professional and Business Services was the big gainer adding 86,000 jobs. However, 52,000 of those jobs were part-time. Education and Health Services added 40,000 jobs with 21,000 of these jobs coming from Health Care and presumably 19,000 from Education (which is not known for hiring people in November). Government added 7,000 jobs. The two consistent job producers since the recession began two years ago have been the Government and Health Care categories, with Education also frequently adding jobs (many health care and education jobs are government related).

The BLS claimed that unemployment fell from 10.2% to 10.0% in November. How can the unemployment rate fall when there are job losses? People have to leave the labor force. Barring a sudden population decrease of working age individuals, workers have to get so discouraged form the bad employment situation that they just give up looking. According to the BLS, 2.3 million people are marginally attached to the labor force and are not counted as unemployed because they did not look for a job in the previous four weeks. Another 9.2 million are working part-time even though they want full-time employment. The alternative unemployment rate which includes discouraged workers and involuntary part-time workers was reported by the BLS as 17.2%.

A check on U.S. government employment figures can be gotten from the ISM (Institute of Supply Management) Services and Manufacturing Indices, both of which survey employment as well as a number of other factors which indicate economic growth or lack thereof. The Services Index was released just yesterday and employment came in at 41.6 (under 50 means contraction). Employment in the services sector has been in decline for the last 19 months and dropped from October to November according to the ISM. All the job gains in the government employment report supposedly came from the service sector. There is a major contradiction here.

The November non-farms payroll figures are another government release indicating the U.S. economy is getting better. This one doesn't add up either. Healthy economies don't have major job losses in manufacturing and construction. Nor are jobs lost in retail during the holiday season (they are during depressions, but certainly not if the economy is improving). The big job gains were part-time, not permanent. The unemployment rate is improving because workers are so discouraged that they are leaving the labor force, not because jobs are being added. This doesn't happen if the economy is getting better either. Furthermore private surveys don't support the governments numbers. Investors should be wary. While markets can be fooled in the short-term, in the long-term they trade on reality.

[MikeWB]

It's all lies. Gov is lying through their teeth. They've been fudging numbers for decades.

Best numbers to look at are number of people on food stamps and number of people at homeless shelters. Both figures are rising month after month.