"Christmas"

[Free Truth]

So it's "Christmas" time... Goyim are in the spirit and those familiar songs are being played over and over.
Well, were you aware that many of the most popular "Christmas" songs are written by the so-called jews? That's the case...

Jews take credit for writing, singing Christmas songs

VIVI ABRAMS

Atlanta Jewish Times

A Methodist dad wants to get into the Christmas mood. He plays a record of "The Christmas Song" and sings along to the familiar "chestnuts roasting on an open fire" refrain. Then he feels like a movie, and watches "White Christmas" with his family. Before bed, he reads his daughter the Caldecott-winning children's Christmas book, "The Polar Express."

He's just had a very Jewish night.


Not many people know it, but Jews have a long history of orchestrating Christmas, back to the early 1800s when French composer Adolphe Adam wrote the music for "O Holy Night."

"Christmas Song" composer Mel Torme was also Jewish. Chris Van Allsburg, a convert to Judaism, wrote "The Polar Express." And "White Christmas," a film about song-and-dance men who romance women for the holidays in a Vermont ski lodge, had a Jewish star (Danny Kaye), director (Michael Curtiz) and composer (Irving Berlin). Berlin, born Israel Baline, wrote "White Christmas" for the film "Holiday Inn" in 1942 and resurrected it for the Bing Crosby film in 1954.

Actor and commentator Ben Stein recently wrote an essay saying that Jews should feel no shame about having so much power in Hollywood, because it's a sign of how much they love America. He said the same about Christmas.

"I have always felt that no one loved Christmas like the Jews," Stein wrote in an e-mail. "No family tensions, no disappointments about the wrong gift, just that great Christmas spirit. For a Jew to be in America at Christmas, with all the love in the air, after two millennia of being hunted and killed ( :roll: ) at Christian holidays, is pure bliss, and I believe we feel it keenly."

Nate Teibloom, editor of jewhoo.com, a Web site that identifies famous Jews, had a different reason for why Jews involve themselves in the Christmas spirit: the bottom line.

"There's a huge market," ( :lol: ) he said. "Virtually every recording artist puts out a Christmas album eventually, including Jewish recording artists. It's money in the bank. [However,] some Jewish recording artists tend to shy away from doing the religious Christmas songs."

One Jewish popular songwriter, who asked not to be identified, believes so many Jewish composers write Christmas songs "because it broadens the field of endeavor.

"Every year for a couple of months the recordings sell all over again. It's the old profit system, not an underwriting of another faith," he said.

Teibloom said Jewish songwriters dominated the popular music scene from around 1920 to 1965, around the time "Your Hit Parade" made Christmas songs into favorites.

"Tin Pan Alley rose up in Manhattan with hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of songwriters turning out song after song after song," he said. They were bound to write Christmas songs, too."

"White Christmas" was one of thousands of songs Irving Berlin wrote in his career, Teibloom said.

"He wrote a song called "I Love Israel," Teibloom said. "He probably wrote a song for Arbor Day, too."

According to jewhoo.com, Jeffery Tambor, the actor who co-starred as Mayor May Who in the recent film "How the Grinch Stole Christmas," was asked if he ever worked on a project as big and expensive as the Grinch film. He replied, "Maybe my bar mitzvah."

Speaking of the Grinch, remember the original animated version soundtrack with the great line, "He's a mean one, Mr. Grinch"? Contrary to what some might think, the Grinch was not Jewish -- but the songwriter was (Albert Hague).

There are even Jewish ornaments on the Christmas tree -- Hallmark features one of a miniature Larry Fine of Three Stooges fame.

But songs are by far the biggest Jewish contribution to Christmas pop culture. Barbra Streisand and Kenny G. (Gorelick) have put out hugely successful Christmas albums.

Other Christmas carols written or performed by Jews include:

* "We Need a Little Christmas" (Jerry Herman).

* "Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer," "Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree" and "A Holly Jolly Christmas" (Johnny Marks).

* "The Christmas Waltz" and "Let It Snow, Let It Snow, Let It Snow" (Sammy Cahn and Jule Styne).

* "Silver Bells" (Ray Evans, lyricist, and Jay Livingston, composer).

*"I'm Getting' Nuttin' for Christmas" (Barry Gordon, performer).

So to all the Jews walking around the mall this year and getting annoyed by all the holiday music on the sound system: Quit blaming the Christians.

So we have "jews" fostering songs that greatly contribute to the "holiday spirit" of a pagan festival which is being pawned off as an event of reverence for the birth of Christ... Oy!

First, "Christmas" doesn't and never has had anything to do with Jesus Christ. He would flip out if he only knew...
The celebration that has taken place presumably for millennia at this time of year is based entirely on solar activity. After the 25th, the sun will begin rising higher and higher in the northern sky every day until the summer solstice, June 21. Light defeating darkness once again...
The ancient peoples lived off the land and it goes without saying what the "rebirth" of the sun and longer, warmer days meant to life back then.
It would be more appropriate to refer to the period around the winter solstice and December 25 as either Saturnalia or Yule.
Saturnalia and Yule activities were certainly not Christian and were far from moral.  

Today we decorate trees, consume (exchange gifts) and look to "Santa Claus" (for children, effectively replacing Jesus) with hope and awe.  

"Christmas," as we know it, is rather modern. It's only in the last 100 years or so that the now well known customs and traditions have been "official."

How on Earth did the masses let it get this far?
Social engineers, anyone?

Leave it to the true and real anti-Christs to harbor such a deception that is such a slap in the face of Jesus and has goyim ignorant to what they're taking part in...

I.     When was Jesus born?

A.     Popular myth puts his birth on December 25th in the year 1 C.E.

B.     The New Testament gives no date or year for Jesus' birth.  The earliest gospel – St. Mark's, written about 65 CE – begins with the baptism of an adult Jesus.  This suggests that the earliest Christians lacked interest in or knowledge of Jesus' birthdate.

C.     The year of Jesus birth was determined by Dionysius Exiguus, a Scythian monk, "abbot of a Roman monastery.  His calculation went as follows:

a.       In the Roman, pre-Christian era, years were counted from ab urbe condita ("the founding of the City" [Rome]).  Thus 1 AUC signifies the year Rome was founded, 5 AUC signifies the 5th year of Rome's reign, etc.

b.     Dionysius received a tradition that the Roman emperor Augustus reigned 43 years, and was followed by the emperor Tiberius.

c.       Luke 3:1,23 indicates that when Jesus turned 30 years old, it was the 15th year of Tiberius reign.

d.      If Jesus was 30 years old in Tiberius' reign, then he lived 15 years under Augustus (placing Jesus birth in Augustus' 28th year of reign).

e.       Augustus took power in 727 AUC.  Therefore, Dionysius put Jesus birth in 754 AUC.

f.        However, Luke 1:5 places Jesus' birth in the days of Herod, and Herod died in 750 AUC – four years before the year in which Dionysius places Jesus birth.

D.     Joseph A. Fitzmyer – Professor Emeritus of Biblical Studies at the Catholic University of America, member of the Pontifical Biblical Commission, and former president of the Catholic Biblical Association – writing in the Catholic Church's official commentary on the New Testament[1], writes about the date of Jesus' birth, "Though the year [of Jesus birth is not reckoned with certainty, the birth did not occur in AD 1.  The Christian era, supposed to have its starting point in the year of Jesus birth, is based on a miscalculation introduced ca. 533 by Dionysius Exiguus."

E.      The DePascha Computus, an anonymous document believed to have been written in North Africa around 243 CE, placed Jesus birth on March 28.  Clement, a bishop of Alexandria (d. ca. 215 CE), thought Jesus was born on November 18.  Based on historical records, Fitzmyer guesses that Jesus birth occurred on September 11, 3 BCE.

 

II.     How Did Christmas Come to Be Celebrated on December 25?

A.    Roman pagans first introduced the holiday of Saturnalia, a week long period of lawlessness celebrated between December 17-25.  During this period, Roman courts were closed, and Roman law dictated that no one could be punished for damaging property or injuring people during the week long celebration.  The festival began when Roman authorities chose "an enemy of the Roman people" to represent the "Lord of Misrule."  Each Roman community selected a victim whom they forced to indulge in food and other physical pleasures throughout the week.  At the festival's conclusion, December 25th, Roman authorities believed they were destroying the forces of darkness by brutally murdering this innocent man or woman.

B.    The ancient Greek writer poet and historian Lucian (in his dialogue entitled Saturnalia) describes the festival's observance in his time.  In addition to human sacrifice, he mentions these customs: widespread intoxication; going from house to house while singing naked; rape and other sexual license; and consuming human-shaped biscuits (still produced in some English and most German bakeries during the Christmas season).

C.    In the 4th century CE, Christianity imported the Saturnalia festival hoping to take the pagan masses in with it.  Christian leaders succeeded in converting to Christianity large numbers of pagans by promising them that they could continue to celebrate the Saturnalia as Christians.[2]

D.    The problem was that there was nothing intrinsically Christian about Saturnalia. To remedy this, these Christian leaders named Saturnalia's concluding day, December 25th, to be Jesus' birthday.

E.      Christians had little success, however, refining the practices of Saturnalia.  As Stephen Nissenbaum, professor history at the University of Massachussetts, Amherst, writes, "In return for ensuring massive observance of the anniversary of the Savior's birth by assigning it to this resonant date, the Church for its part tacitly agreed to allow the holiday to be celebrated more or less the way it had always been."  The earliest Christmas holidays were celebrated by drinking, sexual indulgence, singing naked in the streets (a precursor of modern caroling), etc.

F.      The Reverend Increase Mather of Boston observed in 1687 that "the early Christians who  first observed the Nativity on December 25 did not do so thinking that Christ was born in that Month, but because the Heathens' Saturnalia was at that time kept in Rome, and they were willing to have those Pagan Holidays metamorphosed into Christian ones."[3]  Because of its known pagan origin, Christmas was banned by the Puritans and its observance was illegal in Massachusetts between 1659 and 1681.[4]  However, Christmas was and still is celebrated by most Christians.

G.    Some of the most depraved customs of the Saturnalia carnival were intentionally revived by the Catholic Church in 1466 when Pope Paul II, for the amusement of his Roman citizens, forced Jews to race naked through the streets of the city.  An eyewitness account reports, "Before they were to run, the Jews were richly fed, so as to make the race more difficult for them and at the same time more amusing for spectators.  They ran... amid Rome's taunting shrieks and peals of laughter, while the Holy Father stood upon a richly ornamented balcony and laughed heartily."[5]  :lol:

H.     As part of the Saturnalia carnival throughout the 18th and 19th centuries CE, rabbis of the ghetto in Rome were forced to wear clownish outfits and march through the city streets to the jeers of the crowd, pelted by a variety of missiles. When the Jewish community of Rome sent a petition in1836 to Pope Gregory XVI begging him to stop the annual Saturnalia abuse of the Jewish community, he responded, "It is not opportune to make any innovation."[6]  On December 25, 1881, Christian leaders whipped the Polish masses into Antisemitic frenzies that led to riots across the country.  In Warsaw 12 Jews were brutally murdered, huge numbers maimed, and many Jewish women were raped.  Two million rubles worth of property was destroyed.  

 

III.     The Origins of Christmas Customs

A.     The Origin of Christmas Tree
Just as early Christians recruited Roman pagans by associating Christmas with the Saturnalia, so too worshippers of the Asheira cult and its offshoots were recruited by the Church sanctioning "Christmas Trees".[7]  Pagans had long worshiped trees in the forest, or brought them into their homes and decorated them, and this observance was adopted and painted with a Christian veneer by the Church.

B.     The Origin of Mistletoe
Norse mythology recounts how the god Balder was killed using a mistletoe arrow by his rival god Hoder while fighting for the female Nanna.  Druid rituals use mistletoe to poison their human sacrificial victim.[8]  The Christian custom of "kissing under the mistletoe" is a later synthesis of the sexual license of Saturnalia with the Druidic sacrificial cult.[9]

C.     The Origin of Christmas Presents
In pre-Christian Rome, the emperors compelled their most despised citizens to bring offerings and gifts during the Saturnalia (in December) and Kalends (in January).  Later, this ritual expanded to include gift-giving among the general populace.  The Catholic Church gave this custom a Christian flavor by re-rooting it in the supposed gift-giving of Saint Nicholas (see below).[10]

D.     The Origin of Santa Claus

a.       Nicholas was born in Parara, Turkey in 270 CE and later became Bishop of Myra.  He died in 345 CE on December 6th.  He was only named a saint in the 19th century.

b.      Nicholas was among the most senior bishops who convened the Council of Nicaea in 325 CE and created the New Testament.  The text they produced portrayed Jews as "the children of the devil"[11] who sentenced Jesus to death. *THUMBS UP*

c.       In 1087, a group of sailors who idolized Nicholas moved his bones from Turkey to a sanctuary in Bari, Italy.  There Nicholas supplanted a female boon-giving deity called The Grandmother, or Pasqua Epiphania, who used to fill the children's stockings with her gifts.  The Grandmother was ousted from her shrine at Bari, which became the center of the Nicholas cult.  Members of this group gave each other gifts during a pageant they conducted annually on the anniversary of Nicholas' death, December 6.

d.      The Nicholas cult spread north until it was adopted by German and Celtic pagans.  These groups worshiped a pantheon led by Woden –their chief god and the father of Thor, Balder, and Tiw.  Woden had a long, white beard and rode a horse through the heavens one evening each Autumn.  When Nicholas merged with Woden, he shed his Mediterranean appearance, grew a beard, mounted a flying horse, rescheduled his flight for December, and donned heavy winter clothing.

e.       In a bid for pagan adherents in Northern Europe, the Catholic Church adopted the Nicholas cult and taught that he did (and they should) distribute gifts on December 25th instead of December 6th.

f.        In 1809, the novelist Washington Irving (most famous his The Legend of Sleepy Hollow and Rip Van Winkle) wrote a satire of Dutch culture entitled Knickerbocker History.  The satire refers several times to the white bearded, flying-horse riding Saint Nicholas using his Dutch name, Santa Claus.

g.       Dr. Clement Moore, a professor at Union Seminary, read Knickerbocker History, and in 1822 he published a poem based on the character Santa Claus: "Twas the night before Christmas, when all through the house, not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse.  The stockings were hung by the chimney with care, in the hope that Saint Nicholas soon would be there..."  Moore innovated by portraying a Santa with eight reindeer who descended through chimneys.

h.       The Bavarian illustrator Thomas Nast almost completed the modern picture of Santa Claus.  From 1862 through 1886, based on Moore's poem, Nast drew more than 2,200 cartoon images of Santa for Harper's Weekly.  Before Nast, Saint Nicholas had been pictured as everything from a stern looking bishop to a gnome-like figure in a frock.  Nast also gave Santa a home at the North Pole, his workshop filled with elves, and his list of the good and bad children of the world.  All Santa was missing was his red outfit.

i.         In 1931, the Coca Cola Corporation contracted the Swedish commercial artist Haddon Sundblom to create a coke-drinking Santa.  Sundblom modeled his Santa on his friend Lou Prentice, chosen for his cheerful, chubby face.  The corporation insisted that Santa's fur-trimmed suit be bright, Coca Cola red.  And Santa was born – a blend of Christian crusader, pagan god, and commercial idol.

 

IV.     The Christmas Challenge

·        Christmas has always been a holiday celebrated carelessly.  For millennia, pagans, Christians, and even Jews have been swept away in the season's festivities, and very few people ever pause to consider the celebration's intrinsic meaning, history, or origins.

·       Christmas celebrates the birth of the Christian god who came to rescue mankind from the "curse of the Torah."  It is a 24-hour declaration that Judaism is no longer valid. (?)

·        Christmas is a lie.  There is no Christian church with a tradition that Jesus was really born on December 25th.

·        December 25 is a day on which Jews have been shamed, tortured, and murdered.
(A partial reason for now reveling in and encouraging the modern day deception?)

·        Many of the most popular Christmas customs – including Christmas trees, mistletoe, Christmas presents, and Santa Claus – are modern incarnations of the most depraved pagan rituals ever practiced on earth.

Also: Some say the Mistletoe represents the crown of thorns that was allegedly placed on Jesus' head on the cross.
And now it is customary to kiss under it?!
Boom!
Now a symbol of pleasure...

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So the socially engineered believe that they're paying their respects to Jesus while they're enjoying themselves on their time off of slavery, when, really,  they're doing the total opposite!

Foolish masses...
 :|

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

F.T., it's all old history by now...

Cheers.

Mithraism, like Christianity, offers salvation to its adherents. Mithras was born into the world to save humanity from evil. Both figures ascended in human form, Mithras to wield the sun chariot, Christ to Heaven. The following summarizes the aspects of Mithraism that are also found in Christianity.

    "Mithras, the sun-god, was born of a virgin in a cave on December 25, and worshipped on Sunday, the day of the conquering sun. He was a savior-god who rivaled Jesus in popularity. He died and was resurrected in order to become a messenger god, an intermediary between man and the good god of light, and the leader of the forces of righteousness against the dark forces of the god evil."
    - Pagan Origins of Christmas

http://ancienthistory.about.com/od/holi ... eleb_4.htm


http://ancienthistory.about.com/gi/o.ht ... /09_c9.pdf

Origins of Mithraism.

The festival that is now known as Christmas was actually a celebration for the Vedic Solar Deity Mitra. This Hindu deity Mitra was also worshiped by the Persians as Mithra, which later was adopted by Rome and remained even after the conversion to Christianity.

In India, Mitra was recognized as 'God of Heavenly Light' as a form of the sun and an ally of Indra, King of Heaven. Mitra was often prayed to and invoked along with Varuna, the Hindu god of moral law and true speech. Jointly known as 'Mitra-Varuna', it was believed that together they would uphold order in the world while travelling in a shining chariot and living in a golden mansion with a thousand pillars and a thousands doors.
"These two are the Almighty of the Gods, they are noble.
They will make our people full of vigor.
May we attain you, Mitra and Varuna, wherever Heaven and the days overflow."

- Rig Veda vii.65 ( Mitra and Varuna are in all hymns to the Sun as the Divine Lord and Friend)

Mitra was praised in the Vedic hymns as 'God of Light', 'Protector of Truth', and 'Enemy of Falsehood'. The worship of Mitra extended westwards to Persia (Iran) and eastwards towards China.

With the rapid expansion of the Persian Empire, the worship of Mitra (or Mithra) spread westwards. The Persian version of Mithra was called the "Light of the World". The "Mithra" also appears in the Zoroastrian Avesta, the most holy scripture of Zorashtrians, which is influenced by Rigved, another Hindu Scripture. The followers of Mithraism explained the world in terms of two ultimate and opposing principles, one good (depicted as light) and the other evil (darkness). Human beings must choose which side they will fight for; they are trapped in the conflict between light and darkness. Mithra came to be regarded as the most powerful mediator who could help humans ward off attacks from demonic forces.

Mithra is still venerated today by the Parsis, the descendants of the Persian Zorasthrians, now living mainly in India after been driven out by Muslims. Their temples to Mithra are now called 'dar-i Mihr' (The Court of Mithra). In Iran, until 1979, traditional Mithraic holidays and customs were practiced. The Iranian New Year celebration called 'Nou-Ruz' which takes place during the spring and continues for thirteen days. During this time Mehr (Mithra) was extolled as ancient god of the sun. The 'Mihragan' festival in honor of Mithra, Judge of Iran, also ran for a period of 5 days with great rejoicing and in a spirit of deep devotion.

Mithraism was also practised in the western provinces of China. In Chinese mythology, Mithra came to be known as 'The Friend'. To this day, Mithra is represented as a military General in Chinese statues, and is considered to be the friend of man in this life and his protector against evil in the next. Interestingly, in few of the North and Central Indian languages, the meaning of Mitra is "a friend".

http://hinduworld.tripod.com/history/mithra.html


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People Celebrated December
25th Three Centuries
Before Christ's Birth
Say Archaeologists
By David Keys
Archaeology Correspondent
The Independent - UK
12-24-03
 

Archeologists say they have traced the origins of the first Christmas to be celebrated on 25 December, 300 years before the birth of Christ. The original event marked the consecration of the ancient world's largest sun god statue, the 34m tall, 200 ton Colossus of Rhodes.
 
It has long been known that 25 December was not the real date of Christ's birth and that the decision to turn it into Jesus's birthday was made by Constantine, the Roman Emperor, in the early 4th century AD. But experts believe the origins of that decision go back to 283 BC, when, in Rhodes, the winter solstice occurred at about sunrise on 25 December.
 
The event was preserved by academics on Rhodes or in Alexandria, and seems to have been passed to Caesar by the Hellenistic Egyptian scientists, who advised him on his calendrical reforms.
 
The date was chosen because the emperor seems to have believed that the Roman sun god and Christ were virtually one and the same, and the sun's birthday had been decreed as 25 December some 50 years earlier by one of Constantine's predecessors, the Emperor Aurelian. He, in turn, seems to have chosen 25 December because, ever since Julius Caesar's calendar reforms of 46 BC, that date had been fixed as the official winter solstice, even though the real date for the solstice in Caesar's time was 23 December.
 
Dr Alaric Watson, one of the British historians involved in the current research and author of the major book on the period, Aurelian and the Third Century, said: "Constantine's choice of 25 December as the day on which to celebrate the birth of his divine patron, Christ, must be viewed in terms of the tradition on which Aurelian had drawn and which may well have originated in the celebration of the winter solstice at Rhodes some six centuries earlier.
 
"Constantine clearly saw his divine patron, initially Sol Invictus but later Christ, in much the same way as Aurelian had done. The imagery of Christ, like that of the ruler cults of the Hellenistic and Roman worlds, owed much to solar theology."
 
Jesus's real date of birth is not known, although various different pre-4th century traditions and computations put it either in the January to March period or in November.
 
© 2003 Independent Digital (UK) Ltd
 
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/sci ... ory=475919

http://www.rense.com/general46/bef.html

Saturnalia or Christ-mass?
Posted on December 16, 2009 by clubofnow
The celebration of Saturnalia

MADURA Saturnalia became one of the most popular Roman festivals. It was marked by tomfoolery and reversal of social roles, in which slaves and masters ostensibly switched places, with expectedly humourous results.

Saturnalia was introduced around 217 BC to raise citizen morale after a crushing military defeat.[1] Originally celebrated for a day, on December 17, its popularity saw it grow until it became a week long extravaganza, ending on the 23rd. Efforts to shorten the celebration were unsuccessful. Augustus tried to reduce it to three days, and Caligula to five.

Saturnalia involved the conventional sacrifices, a couch (lectisternium) set out in front of the temple of Saturn and the untying of the ropes that bound the statue of Saturn during the rest of the year. ASaturnalicius princeps was elected master of ceremonies for the proceedings. Besides the public rites there were a series of holidays and customs celebrated privately. The celebrations included a school holiday, the making and giving of small presents (saturnalia et sigillaricia) and a special market (sigillaria). Gambling was allowed for all, even slaves; however, although it was officially condoned only during this period, one should not assume that it was rare or much remarked upon during the rest of the year. It was a time to eat, drink, and be merry. The toga was not worn, but rather the synthesis, i.e. colorful, informal "dinner clothes"; and the pileus (freedman's hat) was worn by everyone. Slaves were exempt from punishment, and treated their masters with (a pretense of) disrespect. The slaves celebrated a banquet: before, with, or served by the masters. Yet the reversal of the social order was mostly superficial; the banquet, for example, would often be prepared by the slaves, and they would prepare their masters' dinner as well. It was license within careful boundaries; it reversed the social order without subverting it.[2]

The customary greeting for the occasion is a "Io, Saturnalia!" — Io (pronounced "e-o") being a Latin interjection related to "ho" (as in "Ho, praise to Saturn").[citation needed]
Saturnalia's relation to Christmas

There is no evidence scripturally or secularly that early Christians in the first century commemorated the birth of Jesus Christ. In fact, in keeping with early Jewish law and tradition, it is likely that birthdays were not commemorated at all. According to The World Book Encyclopedia: "early Christians considered the celebration of anyone's birth to be a pagan custom." (Vol. 3, page 416) Rather than commemorate his birth, the only command Jesus gave concerned a commemoration of his life of any sort actually had to do only with his death (Luke 22:19). It was not until several hundred years after the death of Jesus Christ that the first instances of the celebration of Christmas begin to appear in the historical record. According to the new Encyclopedia Britannica, some who later claimed to be Christian likely "wished the date to coincide with the pagan Roman festival marking the 'birthday of the unconquered sun." The festival was celebrated with similar customs (gift giving, feasting) that are done to celebrate Christmas today. Another argument is that Christmas was set on the feast of Sol Invictus, which was also on December 25.

[Rockclimber]

Thanks for this info and while I whole-heartedly agree with it, the aim of the Jews who attack CHRISTMAS sole purpose was to take the  CHRIST out of Christmas, to secularize it, cheapen it, commercialize it, pagan-ize it completely and than complain about how it "offends" (them).  Not that it wasn't already pagan enough, but many well meaning but ignorant Christians believe it to be Christ's birthday and it brought UNITY to many a people,  in fact the MAJORITY. But the 2% have replaced CHRISTmas trees with Menorrahs so once again they are out of touch when it comes to their ability to piss off the goyim and the goyim are getting pissed.

Well anyway...in spite of all that I proudly say in defiance Merry CHRISTmas to all of you (and to you Jews and Jew spies on this site)

Scott

[veritasvincit]

I wish everyone Merry Christmas in honour of Jesus's birthday regardless of what the real date is.  

v

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Merry Christmas everybody!

Thanks for this info and while I whole-heartedly agree with it, the aim of the Jews who attack CHRISTMAS sole purpose was to take the CHRIST out of Christmas, to secularize it, cheapen it, commercialize it, pagan-ize it completely and than complain about how it "offends" (them). Not that it wasn't already pagan enough, but many well meaning but ignorant Christians believe it to be Christ's birthday and it brought UNITY to many a people, in fact the MAJORITY. But the 2% have replaced CHRISTmas trees with Menorrahs so once again they are out of touch when it comes to their ability to piss off the goyim and the goyim are getting pissed.

and Amen to that R.C.! Christ is why we are here and let us not forget his sacrifice.

[Christopher Marlowe]

Not many people know it, but Jews have a long history of orchestrating Christmas, back to the early 1800s when French composer Adolphe Adam wrote the music for "O Holy Night."

That made me a little curious, so I looked around a little and found this:

["O Holy Night"] has been heralded as among the most beautiful of all Christmas carols, with excellent lyrics and a superb melody.

The author of the lyrics was Placide Cappeau (1808-1877), a resident of Roquemaure, located a few miles north of the historic city of Avignon. He was a commissionaire of wines, and an occasional writer of poetry. It is said that Cappeau was about to embark upon a business trip to Paris when the local parish priest asked Cappeau to write a Christmas poem. On December 3, 1847, about halfway to Paris, Cappeau received the inspiration for the poem, "Minuit, Chrétiens."
...
According to William Studwell, when Cappeau arrived in Paris, he took the poem to the composer Adolphe Adam (1803-1856), an acquaintance of M. and Madam Laurey who were friends of Cappeau. Adam was at the peak of his career, having written his masterpiece, Giselle, only a few years before, in 1841. He was also the composer of over 80 stage works. Adam wrote the tune in a few days, and the song received its premier at the midnight mass on Christmas Eve 1847 in Roquemaure.

Notwithstanding its intrinsic beauty and initial success, the song was later attacked by churchmen in Cappeau's native France. The reason was not because of the nature or subject of the song.  Rather, the attacks were based on the reputations of the lyricist and composer.  Late in his life, Cappeau was described as a social radical, a freethinker, a socialist, and a non-Christian. Indeed, he adopted some of the more extreme political and social views of his era, such as opposition to inequality, slavery, injustice, and other kinds of oppression.

And it was falsely alleged that the composer, Adolphe Adam, was Jewish.3 That, plus his reputation as a composer of light operatic works and ballets, was deemed incompatible by those churchmen with the composition of a Christian religious song. One French bishop denounced the song for its "lack of musical taste and total absence of the spirit of religion."

[Footnote]3. Doubts have been cast on this allegation. It has been reported that the funeral notice for M. Adam stated that "Les obsèques de M. Adolphe Adam auront lieu lundi 5 mai, à 11 heures, en l'église de Notre-Dame-de-Lorette, sa paroisse." ("The funeral of Mr. Adolphe Adam will take place Monday, May 5, [at 11 AM] in the church of Notre-Dame-de-Lorette, his parish.").

From: http://www.hymnsandcarolsofchristmas.co ... _night.htm
(I guess Notre Dame de Lorette is near Arras, France. http://www.webmatters.net/france/ww1_lorette.htm)

For me it is difficult to listen to "O Holy Night" and say that there is a "lack of musical taste and total absence of the spirit of religion."  Listen to this:

O Holy Night! The stars are brightly shining,
It is the night of the dear Saviour's birth.
Long lay the world in sin and error pining.
Till He appeared and the Spirit felt its worth.
A thrill of hope the weary world rejoices,
For yonder breaks a new and glorious morn.
Fall on your knees! Oh, hear the angel voices!
O night divine, the night when Christ was born;
O night, O Holy Night , O night divine!

The original lyrics in French:

Minuit, chrétiens, c'est l'heure solennelle,
    Où l'Homme-Dieu descendit jusqu'à nous
    Pour effacer la tache originelle
    Et de Son Père arrêter le courroux.
    Le monde entier tressaille d'espérance
    En cette nuit qui lui donne un Sauveur.

        Peuple à genoux, attends ta délivrance.
        Noël, Noël, voici le Rédempteur,
        Noël, Noël, voici le Rédempteur!

And in English:

Midnight, Christians, it's the solemn hour,
    When God-man descended to us
    To erase the stain of original sin
    And to end the wrath of His Father.
    The entire world thrills with hope
    On this night that gives it a Savior.

        People kneel down, wait for your deliverance.
        Christmas, Christmas, here is the Redeemer,
        Christmas, Christmas, here is the Redeemer!

Personally, I prefer the translation by John Sullivan Dwight, but I feel that they both are saying the same thing.

From the Hymns and Carols site, above:

There is an unsubstantiated (but frequently repeated) story that this carol figured prominently on Christmas Eve, 1870, during the Franco-Prussian War. The story goes that, unexpectedly, a French soldier jumped out of his trench and sang Cantique de Noël. Moved by the song, the Germans did not fire upon the French soldier, and inspired by the sentiment, a German soldier emerged from his trench and sang Luther's Vom Himmel hoch da komm ich her, a popular Christmas hymn from his country ("From Heaven Above To Earth I Come"). The beautiful Austrian carol, Stille Nacht! Heilige Nacht!, was also reportedly sung by soldiers in trenches on both sides.

A similar exchange would occur during World War I on Christmas Eve, 1914.

If the soldiers in the Franco-Prussian War and WWI were moved to celebrate Christmas and risk charges of desertion or fraternizing with the enemy, I think the Spirit that moved them was a Holy one.  I'll bet the songs they sang were holy songs. I don't think they sang, "Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas" or "Rudolf the Red Nosed Reindeer".

[Free Truth]

F.T., it's all old history by now...

Cheers.

Thanks for the info.
Yeah, I'm sure there's many interpretations of the winter solstice event with many different tales and characters.

I'm not sure what you meant by "it's all old history by now."
What are your thoughts on the other aspects of my post?

Christ is why we are here and let us not forget his sacrifice.

That should be done everyday for those that are on His side.

Thanks for this info and while I whole-heartedly agree with it, the aim of the Jews who attack CHRISTMAS sole purpose was to take the  CHRIST out of Christmas, to secularize it, cheapen it, commercialize it, pagan-ize it completely and than complain about how it "offends" (them).  Not that it wasn't already pagan enough, but many well meaning but ignorant Christians believe it to be Christ's birthday and it brought UNITY to many a people,  in fact the MAJORITY. But the 2% have replaced CHRISTmas trees with Menorrahs so once again they are out of touch when it comes to their ability to piss off the goyim and the goyim are getting pissed.

Well anyway...in spite of all that I proudly say in defiance Merry CHRISTmas to all of you (and to you Jews and Jew spies on this site)

Scott

I don't know...
Christ never was a part of these rituals and, in marrying Him to them, Jesus was used as a tool in manipulation to get people in the present to engage in their ancient pagan beliefs. I'm coming from the argument that aligning Him with them is an intentional insult to Jesus and a blow to true Christianity.
And what do you know, we have "jews" perpetuating it.
Although I do see the attempts to remove this erroneous association of Him with the day by "jews" so it's kind of a weird situation.

Perhaps now that the damage has been done there's no more need for the tool that they used.

I wish everyone Merry Christmas in honour of Jesus's birthday regardless of what the real date is.  

v

I understand where you're coming from, but doing so and/or going along with it in any way just seems to be doing what you're supposed to do as deemed by the owners. And plus, I've learned not to go along with goyim  

After learning more about it in the weeks leading up to "Christmas," it was awkward this year to see everybody wishing each other a "Merry Christmas." Even "truthers" and people that I thought to be well informed and researched...

So, for the future, I'm wondering if I should just pretend to go along with it (and laugh on the inside) while I watch social engineering at it's finest at work because playing Grinch about a day that everybody is dead set on enjoying (even in willful ignorance) ain't fun...
It's almost tantamount to telling the truth about "jews" or the "holocau$t."   :idea:

[Free Truth]

In continuing to look into this, I think some issues of interest would be:

-What exactly were people doing around the winter solstice before the 1800's?

-How much did acceptance and practice of what we now consider "Christmas" norms grow after the advent of television?

[Free Truth]

CM, regarding your addition...

Could be that the writer of what I quoted just got it wrong... Or perhaps the alleged "jew" did try and take credit, I don't know...

But I am pretty sure that many of the most popular songs are ashkenazi written and "Christmas" as a whole, as we know it, has been perpetuated by them.

That claim regarding the Franco-Prussian War is intersting.
The power of music (and art/creativity) to induce emotion......

[Free Truth]

h. The Bavarian illustrator Thomas Nast almost completed the modern picture of Santa Claus. From 1862 through 1886, based on Moore's poem, Nast drew more than 2,200 cartoon images of Santa for Harper's Weekly. Before Nast, Saint Nicholas had been pictured as everything from a stern looking bishop to a gnome-like figure in a frock. Nast also gave Santa a home at the North Pole, his workshop filled with elves, and his list of the good and bad children of the world. All Santa was missing was his red outfit.

i. In 1931, the Coca Cola Corporation contracted the Swedish commercial artist Haddon Sundblom to create a coke-drinking Santa. Sundblom modeled his Santa on his friend Lou Prentice, chosen for his cheerful, chubby face. The corporation insisted that Santa's fur-trimmed suit be bright, Coca Cola red. And Santa was born – a blend of Christian crusader, pagan god, and commercial idol.

WWJD?



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[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Thanks for the info.
Yeah, I'm sure there's many interpretations of the winter solstice event with many different tales and characters.

I'm not sure what you meant by "it's all old history by now."
What are your thoughts on the other aspects of my post?

I think your post is right on target F.T.  If you really examine the History of Christmas, you find it is pretty much a "modern" holiday at least in how most people celebrate it today and really not that "old" or "Traditional" (maybe only really fully non-religious in the last 150 years since the time Charles Dickens' short stories came out).   I just see Jews really pushing for a  "Starbucks Xmas" or "Shopping Mall Xmas" with the lights, glitter, songs, carols that leave the "Christ" entirely out of it. In a few generations ,if they are successful, Christmas as we know it as a religious celebration of "Christ" will no longer be acknowledge whatsoever and then Xmas will be 100% pagan again like it was in Old Rome, Persia, Northern Europe, etc. Every culture in the world pretty much had a celebration of the Sun's return (Sol Invictus) and re-birth around late December long before they ever heard of Christ.  

So, as I see it, Jews want to make it just like Christmas in Asia -- it's "a Season" that has nothing to do with Christ and everything to do with Green and Red, Trees, presents, etc.  Trying to persuade people about this -- to drop the Jew encouraged paganistic cultural baggage and focus only on Christ alone is kind of difficult and tends to piss off people who like Christmas -- so I treat this side of the Season as "old History" -- that will likely not affect current beliefs and practices today for Christmas.  

 The Holiday is a good time for family and to think about Christ's importance in our lives.