(AFP, TIU, DBS etc) "Gnosis" versus Action: An age-old distinction.What makes an Anti-Zionist Movem

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Here is the article comparing private gnosis (endless, special knowledge) to public actions, in light of our Anti-Zionist movement or lack thereof.
http://anthonyhmura.blogspot.com/2010/0 ... e-old.html
In this article we make clear (in links provided therin as well) that it is the past ACTIONS (rather INaction) of certain online heroes that leads us to conclude that there is something missing, and that in order to ever be a real movement - 8 years after 9/11 - we need more than online heroes! We need more from YOU researchers in terms of public actions. Not leaving that to AZL or the likes of Prothink. Instead we would be glad to see and support YOUR actions But unlike Prothink, we would hope emerging activists are real enough to avoid leading people into the 'hate crime hall of fame' with neo-Nazism, Supremacism and even the likes of Prothink's present ally, British-Israelite James Wickstrom, who AZL just exposed for blaming the Haiti earthquake on Yahweh's racist rage against Haitian VOUDOO!).

Beyond the timed distractions (even at TIU, wherein only 'masonic hand-signs' are discussed, which we were the first to call silly and ironic)  TheAZL.com's present concern (certainly expressed with relevant links in the Bollyn B'nai Brith post below this one) is to urge online researchers to consider taking their own  ACTIONS to help blow open the Goff-911 evidence in Goff's hometown of Worcester, MA. That would involve contacting Worcester law enfocement and city officials just as we have in Open Letters to Worc Police Chief Gemme and Mayor Joe O'Brien, informing them not only of Goff-911 evidence, but of the long history of Zionist hate hoaxes (in light of anti-S graffiti which arrived within days of the AZL's call for Goff investigation in Worcester). These 2 open letters can be read both in the post below this one (Bollyn and B'nai B'rith) and in the following link addressed to present online gossipers and would-be activists alike:  http://anthonyhmura.blogspot.com/2010/0 ... e-old.html

Beyond help in blowing the Goff evidence open in Worcester, (surrounding these suspect graffiti and grave toppling incidents perhaps designed to slence our efforts) we also hope to support online researchers in taking up their own actions which can be equally (risky but) effective. (If you are that activist, send your demo photos and reports to http://anthonyhmura.blogspot.com/2010/0 ... e-old.html

Anyone attempting to downplay the potentail in WOrcester RIGHT NOW to blow the Israeli-911 evidence open to law enforcement and the public is a liar. Let THENM discuss 'masonic hand signals'. For us it is the actions of characters such as discussed in that articlle that have long since been known behind the scenes as less than heroic and in terms of inaction: SUSPECT.

seeing the lack of timely action for you in a bind (being set up as a terrorist at 87 is a serious thing...we know who spent 20 minutes of damage congtrol to rationalize their refusal to take ne moment alternatively to post a link to his predicament). ...yes seeing that lack of timely action by folks to whom you offer the shirt off your back is the best way to find out who's for real or not. Since we've offered thus to many, we've found out much about many. Simple as that. But back to ACTIONS. those not into actions can get back to gossip. We know who is who. what we've read from the relevant parties is a disgrace in comaprison to what can and should be done in terms of action to expose Goff RIGHT HERE?NOW. time to divide the gossiping gawkers from the risk-takers and honest activists/ researchers.

Any questions? Send them to truthherzradio@aol.com (also see Zionism 101 by Charles Giuliani of AZL Roundtable) and Tony Hmura and Charles Giuliani will take on all relevant concerns questions on air. The knowing about fakes part is easy: we'll take it further into showing peope what can be done with actions of one's own instead of depending on these online heroes. MANY  of whom are fakes. onemust realize that Zionists handed Israeli-911 evidence to bein with. the whole list-making process was planned well in advance with plenty of online operatives. we have no doubt we've already exposed some and seen them up close in all-important actions. what's at hand is really a cabalistic test, and for the rest of us no Cabalists a war of principles. the want to see (that is the enemy wants to see) whether Christians and other anti-ZIonists can fight with principle instead of merely sticking to online gnosis (pwerless without guts and heart to fight) while leaving activism to AZLor perhaps the liks of Prothink, who just happend (as we predicted nd as Neol had to acknowedge) dove into pitching nazism and supremacism right after releasing his dvd. just as we predicted. nice work....the test is on the rest of us to find an alternttive . right now people can have a movement if they want one byh exposing eviedence breaking throgh (with much resistance) in Worcester Mass. Fplks can spread those open letters to othe poilce departments and Sheriffs, and also find a way to throw more focus and pressure on officials in Worcester Mass to deal realistically with what is happening in Worcester (namey a likely hate hoax times alongside AZL's effots to expose Wordester-born Michael Goff as a likely 911 terroist, according to evidence).
There are people who are not telling folks the truth. they weill not prevail and not a one of them will get an apoligy in the meantime. we'll fight this thing out to the death,

Anonymous

It's because we think you Mickey are a real jerk and I have no interest in working with people that act like you! END OF STORY!

joeblow

COMPLETE TEXT OF THE IDIOTIC DIATRIBE

http://anthonyhmura.blogspot.com/2010/0 ... e-old.html

Controlled opposition thrives on the offering of special knowledge and a lack of action. This is why its said that venues like AFP will "jog but they'll never run."

This is why an online movement consigns itself to watching (as spectators) the "activism" of Nazi-Satanist-Supremacists, without ever doing something themselves.

Here goes on bypassing agents to call for actions. Short of actions there is no movement whatsoever.


Here are relevant AZL links, lest anyone bypass our main concern expressed below them....that online researchers know about the opportunity to BLOW the Israeli-911 evidence wide open in Worcester Mass...instead of engaging in more online nonsense....proving themselves SUSPECT by talking irrelevancies and joking about movement characters instead. ONLY AGENTS betray activists under risk (including an 87 year old WW2 Vet when being set up as a terrorist!) and deflect their discussions away from relevant ACTIONS such as the AZL is engaging in and calling for in WOrcester Mass to blow Israeli-911 evidence out of the water once and for all and secure an investigation of Worcester-born (PTech connected) Michael Goff. Only the silly bs artists neglect such calls for public action and keep online readers ...after 8 years without ANY public presence as a movement...wrapped up with yet more 'private knowledge'.

We would also encourage fellow researchers to take up actions in their own cities, which can have just as much impact as ours are beginning to have. This concern is not about "identifying handsigns in photos" but rather, the real contect for such questions. Namely, that movement 'leaders' rarely bark when when those who ARE taking up (not just talk but) timely action are being attacked; in the AZL's case that entails being set up twice (two seperate individuals) as terrorists. We've found out plenty about certain online heroes during those moments.

Christopher Bollyn at AZL Roundtable: Exposing Bnai Brith & Michael Goff - Worcester's 9/11 Terrorist?
Online heroes: Post this call for 911-Goff investigation on Public *Messageboards, Forums and to Sheriffs, Police (* Like Indymedia.org and RiseUp.net in every city)
20 Jewish Grave Stones Toppled in Worcester...?!
Open Letter to Worcester Police Chief Gemme on likely 9/11 Terrorist from Worcester, Mass - the Chandler-Connected Michael S. Goff
Mayor Joe O'Brien of Worcester, Mass: We have a likely top 9/11 Terrorist in our midst- Michael Goff!
Temple Emunah and ...a Brockton Double Murder?
The AZL exposes Prothink, Hufschmid on deception about Bollyn being Kidnapped, Muzzled
Michael Piper, We hardly knew ye: (Those who try to turn our whole concern in this article into "Masonic handsigns" are at the very least, intellectually dishonest. For some it is because they are treacherous and they want THIS (marginal) article and THEIR silly gossip regarding it to distract readers from a far more promising course of ACTION (than Michael Piper and AFP's potential innocence ...or as we see it, equally potential treachery):  to add their own energies to the progress The AZL is making in calling for an investigation of Michael Goff concerning 9/11, while we also expose (as our law-enforcement inroad?) a strange 'rash of anti-Semitic vandalism' which somehow came within days of our Goff-related efforts in Worcester, in conjunction with Christopher Bollyn. We also have the potential now to alert law enforcement to following for potential (even 911 related?) investigation: the fact that the State Senator making the most noise about this recent anti-S vandalism, also happens to have Goff connections in his hometown (base also for TheAZL.com). Those who seek gossip and to gawk at activists instead of doing something can stick to talking about Masonic handsigns. Those who want to blow open the Israeli-911 investigation open in Worcester Mass (will AFP, Piper? ) have plenty of opportunity to take action ...by sharing (via email or in person or by mail) TheAZL.com's Open Letters to Police Chief and Mayor to their OWN Police Chiefs and Mayors. Everyone knows that to smother such actions is the business of agents...plenty of whom are online making lists. As for this marginal Piper article, (way down on our list of concerns at TheAZL.com...where we stand poised to blow the Israeli-911 evidence wide open eyes of law enforcement and residents alike) there IS at least one question or two, if not ten, in that Piper article worth everyone's asking. Even for Michael Piper to ask. That is, even assuming that Piper merits some 'unconditional trust': why on earth would he persist after he was informed in 2007, in using Jonestown Suicide music for his show's theme song? Lest anyone think that second tier Jonestown question be the crux of our concern with Piper, any more than handsigns would be, that is not the case. Our real questions with movement leaders (AFP, some very suspect online heroes) concern ACTIONS).


...Yes, movement 'leaders' rarely bark when it comes to backing up timely actions. This is why where the rubber hits the road, "online heroes" like Daryl Smith and TIU's Noel Ryan turn into treacherous snakes, engaging in 20 minutes of damage control, for example: rather than to simply inform readers in a moment's post (a link exposing this problem as a measure of safety:) when WW2 Veteran Anthony Hmura had  agents in his neighborhood in July 09, seeking to set this patriotic nationalist up as a terrorist at the age of 87, after having his house burned down 6 times and murder attempted with a steel beam over his 6 decades of activism.

This is why Daryl Smith lied his way out of going public with an activist to clear the record when that activist (exposing the 'Israeli role on 9/11') was entrapped in connection to bogus documents as a "domestic threat" ...in an incident which (when Smith lied and backpeddled from coverage) had then to be shared with local police (and ironically, back to the FBI itself).

Incidentally - Michael Piper and AFP took the same approach to that predicament.

This is all about the difference between words and action; between accumulating private knowledge and having a public effect as a messenger.

And it is just such an approach which CONTROLLED OPPOSITION folks use, to keep online researchers from making a difference.

Honest researchers take note: You DO have an opportunity to expose evidence pertaining to likely 9/11 terrorist Michael Goff from Worcester MA, home base of the Anti-Zionist League. The opportunity is increased at this time, since Worcester has experienced a sudden wave of "anti-Semitic graffiti" within days of TheAZL.com's online efforts to inform Worcester law enforcement and residentst about 911-evidence concerning 'hometown' Zionist Michael Goff.

Folks can take online actions (See article below on a letter to post on public message boards in various cities about this) and also offline actions. Those who wish to throw their focus on these potential hate hoaxes in Worcester Mass, and to use the obvious questions surrounding such impeccably timed manifestations to help inform Worcester area law enforcement and officials that this may well have to do with Goff (and perhaps even the Goff-Connected State Rep. Chandler).

THE BIG DOGS WILL NEVER BARK THOUGH. They would go out of their way ...and talk endless gossip and nonsense...rather than say anything about potential RIGHT HERE/NOW in Worcester to blow the whole 'Israeli-911' truth movement open into the public realm.

Those who are NOT talking about that and are instead pretending that they are unaware of their own past treachery against AZL activism (that would include Daryl Smith, TIU's Noel Ryan, 'Prothink' among others) are nevertheless, STILL showing you folks their true stripes (regardless of their opinons on the status of Christopher Bollyn, who certainly spoke accurately and without reservation in past two AZL Roundtable interviews: the first of which on Goff was electronically interrupted with many beeps, far more even than the ones now on the edited show).

People are either concerned about actions and concerned about covering real activists or not. They can't cover an 87 year old war veteran when being set up as an agent; instead they do 20 minutes of jokes and damage control (Daryl Smith and Noel Ryan).

They do not address the opportunity here in Worcester for you folks to drive a hole through the barriers with Goff evidence, especially with this suspect "hate crime graffiti" going on here simultaneously to Worcester efforts with C. Bollyn to expose 911-Goff evidence to his 'hometown' police, officials and residents. THE DOG IS NOT BARKING? WHY NOT? BECAUSE THESE SITES ARE NOT TRYING TO INCITE YOU FOLKS TO ACTION.

The only activism they support would be NAZIS, SUPREMACISTS and combinations thereof (including Prothink who now buddies up with James Wickstrom, who has just laid the blame for Haiti's earthquake on Yahweh's racist hatred for VOODOU!). Preferably someone on the ADL's hate crime list! Why? For list-making purposes only. NOT to facilitate you people taking up your own action.

We've seen this pattern for years. It exists at AFP as well. There is no question about that. There is no one either who is going to simplify or automatically invalidate our QUESTIONS not only about some "hand signs" Piper is making, but about the JONES TOWN DEATH MUSIC HE PLAYS ON HIS SHOW EVERY DAY, especially in light of AFP-connected MARK LANE'S KNOWN CONNECTIONS TO JONESTOWN. Nor can anyone easily dismiss QUESTIONS about the following paradox: That when ADL hated Piper's work, they managed to close down a promising Arab-American cultural center. Now that ADL expresses agreement with Piper's statements, it is in their efforts to criminalize not just "Nazis" but anti-Zionists.

Michael Piper personally denied the experience of a Zionist-911 activist, set up in connection to documents calling for the "overthrow of the U.S. Constitution" which read at bottom "Inspired by Osama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein." AFP went further in months after that ...to acknowledge the realistic nature of this set up, but to refuse coverage.

If not for DBS and AFP (and Piper's) refusal to cover that predicament (which local Police DID  willingly examine ....though ironically, forwarding it to the FBI itself) this site would not exist.

The question here is asked in the following expose and it is not whether this wimp or that one is an agent. It is whether YOU online researchers in the know will make use not only of this break through in Worcester, MA related to Goff evidence (having impact enough in Worcester to  potentially be a cause for a rash of ADL-inspired hate hoaxes) by your actions online and off, but by your repeating this hands-on approach in your own areas. By being your own personal-AZL. The only 'Anti-Zionist League*' your cities are ever going to see (*a mere virtual term to describe your potential actions as well as ours)  messages to Worcester law enforcement, officials and nation-wide public forums (indymedia.org...riseup.net) but your offline activism as well.

When it comes to real effective actions, they have turned out to be DOGS THAT DO NOT BARK.

When alarms SHOULD be going off for a real movement (when an 87 year old WW2 Vet is being targeted as a "terrorist" by some agent(s)...or when an activist is set up as a "domestic threat" for exposing Israel's 9/11 role...or when AZL.com is 99.9% certain to have been stalked by MICHAEL S. GOFF during the same days as AZL reached Worcester law enforcement and residents with call for Goff's investigation, which also happen to be the days when "a rash of anti-Semitic vandalism" appears in Worcester...) THOSE ALARMS NEVER GO OFF. THESE DOGS DO NOT BARK.
Why?

See even now that they attempt to discuss the silliest aspect of AFP/Piper questions: these apparent hand signs in a photo of Piper. It is we who asked: shouldn't there be some ironic comment under this photo shown at Texe Marrs, for readership which is well aware of such signs? The bottom line with AFP and Piper from AZL.com's experience is that the man did not cover someone when COPS (and ironically FBI) DID, when set up as a "domestic threat" with bogus documents referring to "Osama Bin Laden", Constitutional overthrow, etc.

This Question of action is the whole thrust. Even in AZL's exposes of people who do NOT act but merely provoke...and act like "hate criminal list makers" ....we are still starting and ending with a PROMISING ACTIONS for online researchers ...pointing to an opportunity HERE/NOW to blow the lid off of Israeli-911 evidence in Worcester Mass and to move on to their own activism as well.

We are not "on the Bollyn side". The AZL.com has taken its OWN side...the truth against the world if need be. We know very little more than anyone else about Christopher Bollyn's daily life; but merely note that Bollyn does not appear to be one bit hindered in his interviews with AZL exposing the Goff evidence and (in second interview) the dangers of B'nai B'rith.

Atrocious sound quality and all on some of these tapes, we read folks mentioning the Bollyn-AZL interview on Goff without including the minor detail that that entire interview was electronically disrupted by piercing beeps from some outside source. By the way: when has that ever happened in an interview with Bollyn or with ANY of the above named individuals. Have they been threatened to be shot in the streets? Have the been put on a "hatesite register" within a day by the very Zionists that threatened to shoot them as we have? Were their homes and businesses burned down 6+ times, and stalked by Michael Goff, or by agents framing them as "terrorists" among their neighbors? WE HAVE.

Have any of these online heroes garnered likely city-wide hate hoaxes within days of their public actions to expose Israel's role on 9/11? NO: BECAUSE NONE OF THEM TAKE PUBLIC ACTION TO EXPOSE THAT CRIME. NONE OF THEM PITCH OR SUPPORT ANY OF YOU EITHER IN TAKING UP SUCH ACTIVISM.

(In Cointel-prothink's case, didn't he go on with Daryl Smith in June 08 and try talking people OUT of public activism and into merely handing out dvds, in one on one "Socratic dialogue" as Smith put it?...Was that not a ploy to help you CONTINUE to leave your activism to him? And then to wait on his 911 DVD, just weeks after which came the John-Prothink "hate crime hall of fame" video, wherein 'John' referred to Jews as "ITS"...The Jew, it is this and that?)

This is all very simple. You're not going to hear any of these guys call You to blow a hole open on the Goff-evidene in Worcester Mass, with this promising situation wherein the Goff-connected State Sen. Harriette Chandler is mouthpiece to a "rash of anti-Semitic graffiti" within days of AZL's call to Worcester officials and residents to investigate Goff!

That is a fantastic opportunity. We don't give a damn about the potential intrigues of "Masonic hand signals". Obviously we are basing such general observations (Piper's playing Jonestown suicide music, a la Mark Lane, the Jonestown conspirator) in experiences which have showed us far more....YEARS ago, where the rubber meets the road with these heroes.

The only concern we have right now is not with online intrigues but with your ability, folks, to ACT LIKE  a real MOVEMENT. Ryan/Ognir does NO such thing by his comments. He never has; never will.
That is all the more reason why its up to YOU folks to capitalize on this Worcester earthquake tremor, and also to make your OWN earthquakes happen in terms of breaking open the Israeli-911 evidence!

Pay your dues first. Worry about who's who later. We merely point out the obvious. There are some for legitimate ACTION as a MOVEMENT; but too many running forums/shows/newspapers who are NOT for any such thing. Behind the scenes we know the crap these people have tried to lay on us and others NEED NOT BE TROUBLED OVER THOSE QUESTIONS SO MUCH AT ALL. JUST TAKE ACTION. WITH WORCESTER LAW ENFORCEMENT? YES. BY TELLING YOUR OWN LAW ENFORCEMENT ABOUT GOFF-EVIDENCE FOLLOWED BY SUSPECT GRAFFITI IN WORCESTER (with much attention coming from a Goff-connected State Senator)? YES. AND BY SPREADING THAT SUSPECT COINCIDENCE ON PUBLIC MESSAGE BOARDS. WHY NOT? BUT THEN TO GO AND MAKE THE SAME IMPACT IN YOUR OWN CITIES!!! Nay-sayers: ONCE YOU'VE DONE THAT, come see us ....CAMERAS AND ALL if you'd like.
ALL FOLKS NEED TO DO TO SEE ACTION AND TO HELP WITH PRESENT ACTIONS IS TO LOOK AT THEAZL.COM's 'OPEN LETTERS TO MAYOR O'BRIEN' and Worcester POLICE CHIEF GEMME, AND TAKE IT FROM THERE. MUCH IS REVEALED IN THE MAYOR O'BRIEN LETTER ABOUT MICHAEL GOFF'S SUSPECT LOCAL CONNECTIONS, WHO ARE ALSO INVOLVED IN THE 'RASH OF ANTI-SEMITIC GRAFFITI' THAT (with impeccable timing) SHOWS UP JUST AS WE CALL GOFF'S HOMETOWN LAW ENFORCEMENT TO INVESTIGATE GOFF and 9/11.
Actions speak louder than words. We've spoken and therefore await a movement's Active response, with hopes that there is any real movement at all out there. We shall see. Beyond all these online heroes...big talkers...we shall see.