Michael Collins Piper Discussion

[Christopher Marlowe]

Thanks CrackSmoke. That idea about a spy in the National Socialist organization makes a lot of sense. I looked up that Bormann character and found this article by Makow on the book "OPJB" by Christopher Creighton. Apparently British Intelligence, working for the Rothschilds, smuggled Bormann out of Berlin in the final days of WWII.  

The second most powerful man in Nazi Germany, Martin Bormann, was a "Soviet" (i.e. Illuminati British) agent who ensured the destruction of both Germany and European Jewry.

Thus, he advanced two of the Illuminati's main goals: integrate Germany into a world government by annihilating its national, cultural and racial pretensions, and establish Israel as the Masonic bankers' world capital by threatening European Jews with extinction.

When I first made this case in June 2007, a reader suggested I read the book "OPJB,"(1996) Lieut Commander John Ainsworth-Davis' account of how he and Ian Fleming led a 150-man team that rescued Martin Bormann from war-torn Berlin on May 1, 1945 using river kayaks. According to this book, Bormann lived under an assumed identity in England until 1956 before dying in Paraguay in 1959.

The title of the book stands for "Operation James Bond."  Ian Fleming took the name of  the author of "A Field Guide to the Birds of the West Indies" for the Bormann rescue and later gave it to the hero of his spy series who was modeled on Ainsworth-Davis, who now uses the name, Christopher Creighton....According to Creighton, Martin Bormann was actually sitting in a private visitor's gallery at the Nuremburg Trial when he was condemned to death in absentia!    
http://www.savethemales.ca/martin_borma ... child.html

This theory appeals to me because it reconciles some of the mysteries surrounding the Third Reich: 1) the blunders of the German army at Dunkirk, etc... & 2) The inconsistencies of Hitler himself being an agent: i.e. the testimony of Hitler's longtime friend as to Hitler's good character.  

Agents who stumbled on the "true secrets of World War Two" (i.e. the fact that the Nazis were infiltrated and run by the "English") were often betrayed and met death in action.

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

Nazism was set up as the controlled opposition to Bolshevism.

sure i actually agree with that which is why i said Hitler was a collaborator supported by the Thule society initially. The reason i accuse anyone of being a nazi(and to be fair there is only one other on this board) is that they require a concept of race. I simply deny them that on the basis of current science whilst acknowledging differences from divergent  and insular gene pools. A concept of race is quite simply erroneous and unnecessary to the anti zionist argument and in Charles guliani's latest show who is pushing the more extreme anti judaic view he doesnt require it either.........as im sure he realises that just because the zionist jews believe in it doesnt mean to said one should or that it is necessary to carry an argument.

as far as coinintel goes you have no idea do you? quite simply no idea of what i have done for the fight..............

So you are out to prove that Jews aren't a race? Whoopty fuckin doo! And if and when you do prove that Jews aren't a race, do you think that will stop their conspiracy?

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Okay, Mgt23 time to bring out the "big guns"... what if it isn't "race" but "language"?

Yiddish and Hebrew were the lingua-franca of the Jewish World for centuries, that was never adopted by any other group except for Torah-Talmudic Jews.
Which languages are the Torah and Talmud documents written in?
Can a person become a Jew merely by learning "Hebrew"?  Many Jews after they left the Ghettos of Europe had very Thick accents which marked them as "Jews". Is this so different than DNA?

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Thanks CrackSmoke. That idea about a spy in the National Socialist organization makes a lot of sense. I looked up that Bormann character and found this article by Makow on the book "OPJB" by Christopher Creighton. Apparently British Intelligence, working for the Rothschilds, smuggled Bormann out of Berlin in the final days of WWII.  

The second most powerful man in Nazi Germany, Martin Bormann, was a "Soviet" (i.e. Illuminati British) agent who ensured the destruction of both Germany and European Jewry.

Thus, he advanced two of the Illuminati's main goals: integrate Germany into a world government by annihilating its national, cultural and racial pretensions, and establish Israel as the Masonic bankers' world capital by threatening European Jews with extinction.

When I first made this case in June 2007, a reader suggested I read the book "OPJB,"(1996) Lieut Commander John Ainsworth-Davis' account of how he and Ian Fleming led a 150-man team that rescued Martin Bormann from war-torn Berlin on May 1, 1945 using river kayaks. According to this book, Bormann lived under an assumed identity in England until 1956 before dying in Paraguay in 1959.

The title of the book stands for "Operation James Bond."  Ian Fleming took the name of  the author of "A Field Guide to the Birds of the West Indies" for the Bormann rescue and later gave it to the hero of his spy series who was modeled on Ainsworth-Davis, who now uses the name, Christopher Creighton....According to Creighton, Martin Bormann was actually sitting in a private visitor's gallery at the Nuremburg Trial when he was condemned to death in absentia!    
http://www.savethemales.ca/martin_borma ... child.html

This theory appeals to me because it reconciles some of the mysteries surrounding the Third Reich: 1) the blunders of the German army at Dunkirk, etc... & 2) The inconsistencies of Hitler himself being an agent: i.e. the testimony of Hitler's longtime friend as to Hitler's good character.  

Agents who stumbled on the "true secrets of World War Two" (i.e. the fact that the Nazis were infiltrated and run by the "English") were often betrayed and met death in action.

Christopher,

You might find this link of interest about Ian Fleming as well.  I was shocked when I found it:
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=3142

[mgt23]

Okay, Mgt23 time to bring out the "big guns"... what if it isn't "race" but "language"?

Yiddish and Hebrew were the lingua-franca of the Jewish World for centuries, that was never adopted by any other group except for Torah-Talmudic Jews.
Which languages are the Torah and Talmud documents written in?
Can a person become a Jew merely by learning "Hebrew"? Many Jews after they left the Ghettos of Europe had very Thick accents which marked them as "Jews". Is this so different than DNA?

Yes CSR I agree 100% finally with you. Thats what I've been trying to say for ages and ages. In my studies at uni I was studying the Philosophy of language and I realized that after studying Wittgenstein and the school of analytic philosophy that all abstract memes(like maths/economics) are based on a language(in various mediums) and it is those language specific memes that give rise to particular cultures. I could take a chinese kid at birth raise and teach him in Britain and when he reaches adulthood he would be no different from any other british person-so yes it is different that DNA. It is also why people that speak the same language ally with each other more easily than those we dont share the same language with. Now Yiddish and hebrew make Talmudic/Zoharite memes easily transmissible and so this foul collection of immoral practices are primarily based in hebrew and yiddish culture. So if you check out my latest show I advocate screening all yiddish and hebrew speakers for zionist memes and talmudic immorality(like all blacks are dogs, stealing off a gentile is permissible, killing a gentile is fine etc etc see charles gullianis latest audios on the talmud at the oracle network), with open source mind scanning technology that the Israelis have recently produced. Once we identify who has been infected by these memes then we should initiate pogroms of these people to the JAZ in Russia and deprive them of any tech and make them work as farmers, whilst trying in court for the sin of usury the zionist banking families. As for the anti zionist jews whom i have seen taking a beating in Israel if they are religious they are to form a new torah/talmud deleting all the foul references in contravention of jesus' new commandments and be left alone to worship in peace. The secular jews must renounce any form of zionism and support and help implement with the rest of the goy the destruction of usury across the face of the planet.

[Wimpy]

Okay, Mgt23 time to bring out the "big guns"... what if it isn't "race" but "language"?

Yiddish and Hebrew were the lingua-franca of the Jewish World for centuries, that was never adopted by any other group except for Torah-Talmudic Jews.
Which languages are the Torah and Talmud documents written in?
Can a person become a Jew merely by learning "Hebrew"? Many Jews after they left the Ghettos of Europe had very Thick accents which marked them as "Jews". Is this so different than DNA?

Yes CSR I agree 100% finally with you. Thats what I've been trying to say for ages and ages. In my studies at uni I was studying the Philosophy of language and I realized that after studying Wittgenstein and the school of analytic philosophy that all abstract memes(like maths/economics) are based on a language(in various mediums) and it is those language specific memes that give rise to particular cultures. I could take a chinese kid at birth raise and teach him in Britain and when he reaches adulthood he would be no different from any other british person-so yes it is different that DNA. It is also why people that speak the same language ally with each other more easily than those we dont share the same language with. Now Yiddish and hebrew make Talmudic/Zoharite memes easily transmissible and so this foul collection of immoral practices are primarily based in hebrew and yiddish culture. So if you check out my latest show I advocate screening all yiddish and hebrew speakers for zionist memes and talmudic immorality(like all blacks are dogs, stealing off a gentile is permissible, killing a gentile is fine etc etc see charles gullianis latest audios on the talmud at the oracle network), with open source mind scanning technology that the Israelis have recently produced. Once we identify who has been infected by these memes then we should initiate pogroms of these people to the JAZ in Russia and deprive them of any tech and make them work as farmers, whilst trying in court for the sin of usury the zionist banking families. As for the anti zionist jews whom i have seen taking a beating in Israel if they are religious they are to form a new torah/talmud deleting all the foul references in contravention of jesus' new commandments and be left alone to worship in peace. The secular jews must renounce any form of zionism and support and help implement with the rest of the goy the destruction of usury across the face of the planet.

I like your proposal Mgt23, the irony of using the much vaulted Zionist supremacy of technology against them.  This 'open source mind scanning' technology would at least identify both male and female Talmudists, unlike historical methods of 'identification'' which included exposing male genitalia to confirm circumcision.  And just when they thought circumcising all newborns was the perfect answer for hiding their identity among the Goyim.  Gotta love it!

[mgt23]

i would like to add that i think the operators of the mindscanners must be mindscanned first by peer review-before proceeding.

here is 4 articles on existing brain scanning technology...........
http://deathflag.com/deathflag/viewtopi ... 87&start=0

[Christopher Marlowe]

Christopher,

You might find this link of interest about Ian Fleming as well. I was shocked when I found it:
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=3142

Very Interesting CrackSmoke.

"I admire your luck, Mr. ...."
"Bond. Jacob Meir Bond."

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Christopher,

You might find this link of interest about Ian Fleming as well. I was shocked when I found it:
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=3142

Very Interesting CrackSmoke.

"I admire your luck, Mr. ...."
"Bond. Jacob Meir Bond."

 :lol:

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

March 24, 2010
Hitler letter about 'cordial relationship' with UK sells for £8,000

The letter is the very model of courtesy, expressing warm thanks for the British journalist's "kind invitation" and speaking enthusiastically about the "truly cordial relationship" between the British and the German peoples. It is also from Adolf Hitler and yesterday was sold at auction at Bonhams for the knockdown price of £8,000.

"It was the most incredible bargain," said the American buyer, Kenneth Rendell, owner of a Second World War museum in Massachusetts. He would, he said, have paid up to £50,000.

The letter, dated September 30, 1931, was Hitler's response to an invitation from Sefton Delmer — one of the famous journalists of his generation, and the Daily Express's man in Berlin — to write an article about the economic crisis facing Britain.

Although Hitler declined, the typewritten letter is revealing about the warmth of Hitler's feelings towards the British. Writing of his hopes that a new accord would arise between Britain and Germany to replace the settlement made after the First World War, Hitler said: "I hope ... that out of this crisis a new readiness will grow up in Britain to submit the last twelve years to a reappraisal. I should be happy if, as a result of this, the unhappy war-psychosis could be overcome on such a scale as to permit the realisation of the truly cordial relationship between the British and the German peoples so eagerly desired by myself and my movement."


    * Referendum in Prussia: Sefton Delmer attacked by Communists


He went on to say that, "greatly honoured as I am by your kind invitation", he would not write the proposed article because his views would be seen as a criticism and "part of the British public might consider it presumptuous of me".

Recalling in his memoirs his attempt to persuade the Nazi leader to write for the Express, Delmer wrote: "What kind of fee do you think brash young reporter Delmer offered Hitler? Ten guineas! Hitler declined with an elaborately courteous letter."

Delmer, bilingual and partly brought up in Germany, was already on such good terms with the Nazis by 1931 that the Foreign Office suspected him of being a German agent. He was the first British reporter to interview Hitler and travelled with him on his plane during the 1932 election campaign.

His most famous scoop came in 1933 when he walked through the burning Reichstag at Hitler's side. He had actually been beaten to the fire by the Times correspondent, but managed to time his arrival so that he was able to tag along with Hitler's party. In his book, Trail Sinister, Delmer described how Hitler lost no time in exploiting the fire for his own political ends. "In the next corridor Hitler fell back a bit and joined me. He was moved to prophesy: 'God grant,' he said, 'that this be the work of the Communists. You are now witnessing the beginning of a great new epoch in German history, Herr Delmer. This fire is the beginning.' Just then he tripped over a hosepipe."

Mr Rendell said: "This letter shows that Hitler thinks that Britain and Germany should really work together. This is what leads to his hesitancy at Dunkirk, because he always thought Britain would make a deal."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 073154.ece

Another recent book:

March 7, 2010
Neville Chamberlain made study of Adolf Hitler
Neville Chamberlain meets Adolf Hitler

Neville Chamberlain meets Adolf Hitler
Chris Hastings

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NEVILLE CHAMBERLAIN read and annotated Hitler's Mein Kampf in its original German before he embarked on his policy of appeasement, says a new biography.

The former prime minister, who acquired a 1933 copy of the book, highlighted sections that he thought revealing of the German dictator's mindset, and even added exclamation marks alongside some passages.

Chamberlain was struck by sections that underlined Hitler's anti-Semitism, his faith in Aryan superiority and his sense of racial affinity with the British.

In one highlighted passage about Anglo-German relations, Hitler states: "The bond of kindred blood and the main features of a common civilisation united us."

The discovery is contained in a biography called The Chamberlain Litany by Peter Marsh, a professor of history at Birmingham University. It is not known just when Chamberlain read the book, but Marsh believes it was before he met Hitler in 1938, which throws new light on the appeasement policy.

Marsh's book will be published by Haus Publishing on May 1.

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David Nilsson wrote:
Ah yes, Neville Chamberlain: the cool-headed statesman who bought Britain vital time in 1938 to make our air defences insuperable, while 'sacrificing' a European state so artificial that it fell apart as soon as it ceased to be a Soviet satrapy.

The great reforming Tory member of the most successful and popular administration of modern times: the National Government of 1931-40, which steered Britain through the Great Depression with no injury to our constitutional tradition, and with far less poverty than America or France suffered.

The man who left Hitler fuming in frustration at Munich, without whose legacy Winston Churchill-- that hysterical and irresponsible backbench reactionary critic-- would have had to sue for peace after the Fall of France.

Chamberlain: the prime minister who put the UK's national interest first, and for that has been berated by globalists and universalists ever since.

God bless his memory and that of Stanley Baldwin.

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/ ... 052510.ece

[thirdeyewise]

I really don't get some of the things MCP puts out, on 3-29-10 he states:

Obama is driving the Israelis crazy, is he kidding? can't he see it's all a show and Obama is bought and paid for?


he also stated that Stalin was fighting the Jews. How exactly was Stalin fighting the Jews, how ridiculous:

Jews were predominate in the secret police, like the NKVD and Cheka; in fact, the 6 leading administrators of Stalin's death apparatus, Aron Solts, Yakov Rappoport, Lazar Kogan, Matvei Berman, Genrikh Yagoda and Naftaly Frenkel were all Jews.

Stalin's top administrator was Lazar Kaganovich (a Jew)

Stalin had three wives, all of them Jewesses

His third wife was Rosa Kaganovich, the sister of Lazar Kaganovich

Stalin's daughter Svetlana married Lazar Kaganovich's son mihail

Svetlana Stalin had a total of four husbands, three of them Jewish.

The Jews even made a movie celebrating Stalin's achievements called "L'Chayim Comrade Stalin"

[Rockclimber]

I really don't get some of the things MCP puts out, on 3-29-10 he states:

Obama is driving the Israelis crazy, is he kidding? can't he see it's all a show and Obama is bought and paid for?


he also stated that Stalin was fighting the Jews. How exactly was Stalin fighting the Jews, how ridiculous:

Jews were predominate in the secret police, like the NKVD and Cheka; in fact, the 6 leading administrators of Stalin's death apparatus, Aron Solts, Yakov Rappoport, Lazar Kogan, Matvei Berman, Genrikh Yagoda and Naftaly Frenkel were all Jews.

Stalin's top administrator was Lazar Kaganovich (a Jew)

Stalin had three wives, all of them Jewesses

His third wife was Rosa Kaganovich, the sister of Lazar Kaganovich

Stalin's daughter Svetlana married Lazar Kaganovich's son mihail

Svetlana Stalin had a total of four husbands, three of them Jewish.

The Jews even made a movie celebrating Stalin's achievements called "L'Chayim Comrade Stalin"

Good points, and factual. So far I have surmised that Piper supports Hitler, a fascist, Obma, a socialist/fascist and Stalin a communist. Furthermore he suggested that Stalin did some bad things, but he wasn't as bad as we're told. So those 20-million wasn't all that bad either I guess? (could have been 50 mill) wtf?

[MikeWB]

MCP's show is getting weirder and weirder... today he has this guy Carl of http://liberatecarl.com who's called in before and is clearly batshit insane and was put in a mental hospital recently. Now get this... he's asking that MCP flies to Montreal and brings a doctor with him to take his blood and prove that he has NANOBOTS in his blood and that they're killing him!

[MikeWB]

On a good note, mgt23 called in and they finally discussed something that's current . And Steve also plugged TiU! GOOD JOB STEVE!!!

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

I really don't get some of the things MCP puts out, on 3-29-10 he states:

Obama is driving the Israelis crazy, is he kidding? can't he see it's all a show and Obama is bought and paid for?


he also stated that Stalin was fighting the Jews. How exactly was Stalin fighting the Jews, how ridiculous:

Jews were predominate in the secret police, like the NKVD and Cheka; in fact, the 6 leading administrators of Stalin's death apparatus, Aron Solts, Yakov Rappoport, Lazar Kogan, Matvei Berman, Genrikh Yagoda and Naftaly Frenkel were all Jews.

Stalin's top administrator was Lazar Kaganovich (a Jew)

Stalin had three wives, all of them Jewesses

His third wife was Rosa Kaganovich, the sister of Lazar Kaganovich

Stalin's daughter Svetlana married Lazar Kaganovich's son mihail

Svetlana Stalin had a total of four husbands, three of them Jewish.

The Jews even made a movie celebrating Stalin's achievements called "L'Chayim Comrade Stalin"

Well, you gotta understand where Piper is coming from. He has documented crypto anti-Judaics disguised as democrats. Namely, one John F. Kennedy. Have you read his book Final Judgment? If not, you must. Some very interesting revelations, other than Mossad being behind the Kennedy assasination.

[thirdeyewise]

Well, you gotta understand where Piper is coming from. He has documented crypto anti-Judaics disguised as democrats. Namely, one John F. Kennedy. Have you read his book Final Judgment? If not, you must. Some very interesting revelations, other than Mossad being behind the Kennedy assasination.

Add one more to the list: His son Yakov also married a Jewish woman, Yulia Meltzer.


Crypto anti-judaics with Jew wives, Jew brother in laws, Jew son inlaws and little Jew babies running around the house. I doubt it. The facts i laid out about Stalin should be enough proof for anyone that he was not anti-Judaic anything. Besides, in all likelyhood Mr. Jughashvili was himself a Jew.

[thirdeyewise]

Also on 3-26-2010 @38:20 MCP says:

"the Rockefellers are essentially no more", and they are not Jewish. All the evidence proves otherwise.

In 2002 Rockefeller authored his autobiography "Memoirs" wherein, on page 405," Mr. Rockefeller writes: "For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as "internationalists" and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."


"We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries."  
- David Rockefeller Baden-Baden, Germany 1991

[youtube:3oggnqy2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct9xzXUQLuY[/youtube]3oggnqy2]


Tell me how exactly are they "no more", do those in power just fade away in a whimper..i doubt it.



The Rockefellers follow to a letter the Jewish agenda and they have that stereotypical Jewish look.

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=2646


MCP has yet to acknowledge that the kosher Nazi Frank Collins (Joseph Cohen) was Jewish. WTF !

MCP's show is getting weirder and weirder... today he has this guy Carl of http://liberatecarl.com who's called in before and is clearly batshit insane and was put in a mental hospital recently. Now get this... he's asking that MCP flies to Montreal and brings a doctor with him to take his blood and prove that he has NANOBOTS in his blood and that they're killing him!

That was a weird show, he gave a guy in a mental hospital 20 minutes of airtime and even had the guy repeat the number he gave out, as if it mattered.

[mgt23]

That was a weird show, he gave a guy in a mental hospital 20 minutes of airtime and even had the guy repeat the number he gave out, as if it mattered

i had to wait 30 mins to get on and talk real issues waiting for nutjob to finish.

[thirdeyewise]

Also on 3-26-2010 @38:20 MCP says: "the Rockefellers are essentially no more"

"For the first time in its history, Western Civilization is in danger of being destroyed internally by a corrupt, criminal ruling cabal which is centered around the Rockefeller interests, which include elements from the Morgan, Brown, Rothschild, Du Pont, Harriman, Kuhn-Loeb, and other groupings as well. This junta took control of the political, financial, and cultural life of America in the first two decades of the twentieth century.
- Professor Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time (1966)


"The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control.... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent."
 - Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976, killed in the Korean Airlines 747 that was shot down by the Soviets.

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

Well, you gotta understand where Piper is coming from. He has documented crypto anti-Judaics disguised as democrats. Namely, one John F. Kennedy. Have you read his book Final Judgment? If not, you must. Some very interesting revelations, other than Mossad being behind the Kennedy assasination.

Add one more to the list: His son Yakov also married a Jewish woman, Yulia Meltzer.


Crypto anti-judaics with Jew wives, Jew brother in laws, Jew son inlaws and little Jew babies running around the house. I doubt it. The facts i laid out about Stalin should be enough proof for anyone that he was not anti-Judaic anything. Besides, in all likelyhood Mr. Jughashvili was himself a Jew.

How is this relevant to kennedy?

[thirdeyewise]

How is this relevant to kennedy?

Let me get this straight, i bring up the facts about Stalin and you bring up Kennedy, claiming that maybe Piper thinks that Stalin was like Kennedy, a crypto anti-Judaic. I present more facts to solidify my claim of Stalin being Jew friendly and you ask me "How is this relevant to kennedy"

maybe i just should have asked you how is you bringing up kennedy relevant to my initial post about Stalin, huh? We can just go back and forth all day.

I mean you were trying to Insinuate  that piper thought Stalin might be like Kennedy, a crypto anti-judaic...right? So i thought i was answering you question on the concept of Stalin being a "crypto anti Judaic", not specifically on Kennedy.

Well, you gotta understand where Piper is coming from. He has documented crypto anti-Judaics disguised as democrats. Namely, one John F. Kennedy. Have you read his book Final Judgment? If not, you must. Some very interesting revelations, other than Mossad being behind the Kennedy assasination.

Crypto anti-judaics with Jew wives, Jew brother in laws, Jew son inlaws and little Jew babies running around the house. I doubt it. The facts i laid out about Stalin should be enough proof for anyone that he was not anti-Judaic anything. Besides, in all likelyhood Mr. Jughashvili was himself a Jew.  

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

I'm actually of the opinion that the Jews-Rothschilds-Protocolists of Zion just dump their Shabbos Goyim leaders like "trash" after they become useless and unruly.
Case in point with Stalin, the Jews started the "Doctor's Plot" after the state of Israel was created and Communist Jew leaders met with Israeli delegates in secret.  They wanted to kill Stalin before he went "Napoleon" on them for real after the Global Jewry-UN-UK/USA formally created Israel.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jso ... /plot.html

The Doctor's Plot
(1953)

Shortly before he died on March 5, 1953, Soviet dictator Josef Stalin accused nine doctors, six of them Jews, of plotting to poison and kill the Soviet leadership. The innocent men were arrested and, at Stalin's personal instruction, tortured in order to obtain confessions. "Beat, beat, and again beat," Stalin commanded the interrogators.

The unfortunate physicians can be described as lucky only in comparison with Stalin's eighteen million other victims. The dictator died days before their trial was to begin. A month later, Pravda announced that the doctors were innocent and had been released from prison. It later became known that after their pro-forma trial and conviction, Stalin intended to organize pogroms around the country, after which prominent members of the Jewish community would publicly beg him to protect the Jews by sending them all to Siberia. Indeed, when Stalin died, the supposedly spontaneous appeal by leading Jews had already been written and signed; the signatories had been coerced into signing.

In accusing the Jewish doctors of being poisoners, Stalin was, of course, reviving a libel that was common among medieval anti-Semites. The most notorious incarnation of the "Jews as poisoners" libel occurred in the fourteenth century when they were accused of having caused the devastating Black Plague by poisoning the wells of Europe. In addition to all the Jews who died from the plague, thousands more were murdered in pogroms prompted by these accusations. In 1610, the University of Vienna's medical faculty certified as its official position that Jewish law required doctors to kill one out of ten of their Christian patients. One wonders what it must have been like to be in a Jewish doctor's office — in back of nine other patients.

While one would think that all Jews would have breathed an enormous sigh of relief upon Stalin's death, there was no shortage of Russian Jews who shared in the country's paroxysm of grief. Even more peculiar, I. F. Stone, a well-known left-wing Jewish journalist in the United States, attacked President Eisenhower for not issuing a more effusive note of condolence on the mass murderer's death.

SOURCES AND FURTHER READINGS: Mikhail Heller and Aleksandr Nekrich, Utopia in Power: The History of the Soviet Union from 1917 to the Present , pp. 502-504; Yehoshua Gilboa, The Black Years of Soviet Jewry; Louis Rappaport, Stalin's War Against the Jews: The Doctors' Plot and the Soviet Solution. As regards the medieval accusations that Jews poison non-Jews, see Joshua Trachtenberg, The Devil and the Jews: The Medieval Conception of the Jew and Its Relation to Modern Antisemitism, and H. H. Ben-Sasson, Trial and Achievement—Currents in Jewish History, pp. 251-256.

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

How is this relevant to kennedy?

Let me get this straight, i bring up the facts about Stalin and you bring up Kennedy, claiming that maybe Piper thinks that Stalin was like Kennedy, a crypto anti-Judaic. I present more facts to solidify my claim of Stalin being Jew friendly and you ask me "How is this relevant to kennedy"

maybe i just should have asked you how is you bringing up kennedy relevant to my initial post about Stalin, huh? We can just go back and forth all day.

I mean you were trying to Insinuate  that piper thought Stalin might be like Kennedy, a crypto anti-judaic...right? So i thought i was answering you question on the concept of Stalin being a "crypto anti Judaic", not specifically on Kennedy.

Well, you gotta understand where Piper is coming from. He has documented crypto anti-Judaics disguised as democrats. Namely, one John F. Kennedy. Have you read his book Final Judgment? If not, you must. Some very interesting revelations, other than Mossad being behind the Kennedy assasination.

Crypto anti-judaics with Jew wives, Jew brother in laws, Jew son inlaws and little Jew babies running around the house. I doubt it. The facts i laid out about Stalin should be enough proof for anyone that he was not anti-Judaic anything. Besides, in all likelyhood Mr. Jughashvili was himself a Jew.  

You are coming out of left field on this one. I was not referring to Stalin in anyway. I thought the context of my comment was quite obvious. I was trying to bring some understanding to the question of why Piper was seemingly endorsing Obama, a democrat. Maybe you should go back and re-read what I was responding to.

[thirdeyewise]

You are coming out of left field on this one. I was not referring to Stalin in anyway. I thought the context of my comment was quite obvious. I was trying to bring some understanding to the question of why Piper was seemingly endorsing Obama, a democrat. Maybe you should go back and re-read what I was responding to.

My fault, next time when you quote me just quote the part you are referring to. I though you were talking about Stalin being Anti-Judaic because that was what most of my post was targeting (as far as proof presented). believe me the only crypto anything in Obama might be his mother's crypto Judaism. that guy is bought and paid for. sorry for the misunderstanding.


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Presidential historians and convention observers believe this year's Democratic convention will be the first time that a rabbi gives an invocation before the presidential nominee's acceptance speech since the advent of modern American political conventions nearly a century ago.         - The Jewish Daily Forward August 21, 2008 "

 "Obama is embedded in the Jewish world."  - Rabbi Arnold Jacob Wolf

"Jews made him (Obama). Wherever you look there is a Jewish presence."
The Chicago Jewish News (October 24, 2008)

"I think when this is all over, people are going to say that Barack Obama is the first Jewish president"- Abner Mikva

"Barack will be the first Jewish president in the US, he has a yiddeshe nishama (Jewish soul),."  -- Abner Mikva

"Barack Obama: America's First Jewish President!"  - huffington post November 14, 2008

Obama became the first president ever to host the Jewish passover ritual known as seder at the White House

Obama declared May 'Jewish American Heritage Month'

[thirdeyewise]

I read somewhere that Piper & Bollyn made up. Has anyone heard anything confirming this?
When was the last time Piper talked bad about Bollyn on air, anyone know?

[VoltaXebec]

I read somewhere that Piper & Bollyn made up. Has anyone heard anything confirming this?
When was the last time Piper talked bad about Bollyn on air, anyone know?

The Tuesday night broadcast, the 27th, MCP was talking about when he invited Bollyn to come back on the show, Bollyn refused and sent an email to Mike saying "don't anounce that you invited me on the program".

Where did you read it?

[thirdeyewise]

Where did you read it?

Some jerkoff on another site spreading disinformation. It's cleared up now