Ron Paul Forums launching on Zio-Jones...Understanding Alex

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Looks like the S... is hitting the fan in the R.P. bus over the Judas Goat Zio-A.J. --- people are getting p*off and good for them... WAC is mentioned too!  :lol:

 -- If you got some time, maybe open some recruitment efforts at the R.P. ranch...  

The lead story was dropped from Google's cache along with the

About that deleted "Israel Did 9-11" thread

at
 "http://www.dailypaul.com/node/128921"

--the CSR


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Understanding Alex Jones - Why this is important!!
Submitted by your_friend on Sat, 03/13/2010 - 19:36
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    * Current Events

A genuine American, Abraham Lincoln, said, "Worse than traitors-in-arms are the men who, pretending loyalty to the Flag, feast and fatten on the misfortunes of the nation."

After a recent protest in Austin, I was shocked to see video of Alex Jones sandbagging his fellow activists, and disrupting the speakers!! I decided to dig deeper into this subject, and I think that if you examine the linked content you too will get a better understanding.

http://donttreadoncat.com/controversy/alex-jones/ - The full story with video.

More versions of Austin protest :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG77nYbo ... layList&...

Well, let's hear what Alex Jones has to say on this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWM17wiHhww

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5Aja4dipMc

Why did the people reporting on the Austin incident get kicked off the air?
http://www.alexjonesmachine.com/ruleolaw.htm

Why did Alex Jones lie about the incident later on his show?
http://donttreadoncat.com/2010/02/an-op ... alex-jon...

You may still say, "So what?" He's helping the cause and waking people up." Well, here's an example of how destructive Alex Jones is:

By turning on Debra Medina, he helped the two other candidates, who are BILDERBERG members gain support in TX.

After Jones bashed Debra Medina, Jack Blood (AJ's former co-host) was pushed to the breaking point and unleashed a lot of pent-up anger towards Jones. He told first-hand accounts of Jones' phoniness and integrity. We find out that Jones doesn't even read the documents when he maniacally exclaims "We have the documents" ! He sometimes has his underlings sign his autographs to videos. He seems to like to throw everyone under the bus. Oh yeah, we also find out that he can't handle his liquor.

Listen here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRZjgdQ7 ... layList&...

"TRUTH THAT THERE ARE BODIES LITTERED BEHIND THE ASCENSION OF ALEX JONES?!! YES!!" - Jack Blood http://deadlinelive.info/

YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THIS:

A shill is person who is paid to help another person or organization to sell goods or services. The shill pretends to have no association with the seller/group and gives onlookers the impression that he or she is an enthusiastic customer. The person or group that hires the shill is usingcrowd psychology, to encourage other onlookers or audience members (who are unaware of the set-up) to purchase said goods or services. Shills are often employed by confidence artists. The term plant is also used. The term is also used to describe a person who is paid to help a political party or other advocacy organization to gain adherents; as with the situation of selling goods or services, the shill gives the impression of being unrelated to the group in question, and gives the impression that he or she finds merit in the ideological claims of the political party.

Shilling is illegal in many circumstances and in many jurisdictions[1] because of the frequently fraudulent and damaging character of their actions. However, if a shill does not place uninformed parties at a risk of loss, but merely generates "buzz", the shill's actions may be legal. For example, a person planted in an audience to laugh and applaud when desired (see claque), or to participate in on-stage activities as a "random member of the audience", is a type of legal shill. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shill

Where did Alex Jones come from? What is his history? How did he gain an audience? If you go to the links below, you can find additional information and info on this.

Alex Jones History

1. William Cooper and Alex Jones:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 1222681&... -

The Interview.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKM7k_H9FjM - Alex Jones lies and smears Cooper for no reason!! Why?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVxjdqYMU4w - Cooper's response.

I suggest everyone get to know who William Cooper was ( http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 205113781# William Cooper's Bio.)

See how Alex Jones arrives on the scene and lies about William Cooper, mimics Cooper's broadcasts, and appoints himself as the leader of the truth movement after Cooper's murder.

2. Predicting 9/11:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrTjPGy2k_U - Cooper June 28th 2001.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8Hk1-BpXO8 - Jones 1 month later July 25th 2001.

http://www.evtv1.com/player.aspx?itemnum=13460 - Cooper pays for informing the people with his life - Alex Jones gets paid. If that doesn't prove Jones is a shill, then you're living in a fairy tale.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JHqB7w9WSI - Jones is all over national television - Do you really think he's on TV because they don't want him?

Why does Alex Jones go out of his way to lie and slander William Cooper? Why is Alex Jones so concerned about people researching William Cooper??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtdJc-8Sg10 - Why is Alex Jones still lying about Cooper even after his death? Why is he making up more ridiculous stories? Why is he concerned with turning you away from William Cooper?

I'll tell you why! Because William Cooper warned America about Alex Jones long ago!

http://wideeyecinema.com/?p=3153 - Why Alex Jones is dangerous.

Causing panic leads to rash behavior and acts of violence. It's also misleading and terroristic. Is Alex Jones really trying to wake up America? Is he trying to gain the support of outside parties? We all want a thorough investigation to discover the truth behind the September 11th attacks, right? Exclaiming that it was an "inside job," not only implies that it was our own government and all persons and bodies that make up the United States of America (that's right, including you), it hurts the cause and turns potential supporters away.

Alex Jones is working on taking over the whole "We Are Change" organization as his own hollywood production. He has always had a film crew follow him to everywhere he goes to create the image of him "leading the resistance". However, he's no where to be found if he's not profiting off it and boosting his image. He obviously cares nothing about the cause except hyping his image. They want to organize, network, track, and discredit the truth movement. Alex Jones also uses tactics to discredit himself by never offering sources for his claims. He's being obnoxiously militant towards the public so no one will take him seriously, and the impressionable followers swear allegiance to him and follow him blindly.

This is is a hollywood production to Alex Jones!! He does not help the movement gain credibility, rather, he self-appoints himself to the leader and spokesperson of a "political party" that needs not become its own. Who is he to tell us who to follow and what to believe? Why does he think that only he can tell us who the good guys and bad guys are? He doesn't want you to trust or listen to Glenn Beck, and has started a smear campaign against him – Why you ask? Go listen to Glenn Beck and you'll find that he mirrors Alex Jones right down to the gold. He's afraid of losing his followers, rather than building them up.

But remember, this is my opinion on the subject based on the research and evidence I have studied. Arguing over my opinion does not change it. Each person should do their own research, and make their own conclusions; I'm not trying to tell anyone what to believe.

We have no reason to claim Alex Jones is a zionist or jew or whatever has been said about him because there is no proof, and it does not matter!!

What matters is that he's a shill, destructive, dishonest, and not here to help!! AND WE HAVE PROOF!!

Here's what they don't want you to read:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/4571085/Behold-a-Pale-Horse - Behold A Pale Horse, William Cooper

This is what they don't want you to read because it has documented proof with references to support. This is an example of credibility. The information is backed with referenced material and documented evidence, and I strongly urge that you take the time to read this. This is the closest thing to truth there is. Most all other "truthers-for-sale" have used and twisted the information in this book for their own selfish gain. When does Alex Jones provide ANY references or proof other than articles written by others? Does Alex Jones have any independent research to show? With fantastic claims should come fantastic evidence.

"PARTIAL TRUTHS ARE MORE DESTRUCTIVE THAN COMPLETE IGNORANCE" - William Cooper.

You Decide:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5Aja4dipMc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TACalwg360c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QEpGzgh5i0

Please keep in mind that I'm not trying to divide the people; I'm trying to bring us together, and make us smarter. I'm warning all in support of Alex Jones before it's too late. My final wish is that this will empower each and every one of us to see through the bs, and become our own leaders. Alex Jones is working to make money for Alex Jones!! We owe Alex Jones nothing!! We owe each other a lot more!!

Peace, love, truth, hope, change.

http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:vw ... =firefox-a

[MikeWB]

Great find CSR!!

That page is still in Google cache however!

http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:htt ... ode/128921

Duplicated here:

About that deleted "Israel Did 9-11" thread
Submitted by dabooda on Mon, 03/15/2010 - 00:59
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Looking over that "Israel did 9-11" website, I can see why the DP moderators would delete any thread linked to it. That website does come across as very anti-Semitic, and that is not an image that Ron Paul should be linked to. Anyone who wants to find such a site could simply Google for it; no links should be posted here.

That being said, I would still like to discuss some of the evidence that ties Israel to the 9-11 attack. I was only NEGATIVELY impressed by that website's racist laundry list of government officials who are Jewish, but a lot of anomalies remain which are BEST (a la Occam's Razor) explained by the hypothesis that Israel did orchestrate, carry out and cover-up the 9-11 attack as a false flag operation.

As Rhino rightly observed on the deleted thread, the people who put together the "Israel Did 9-ll" site seem to have gathered huge piles of stuff together and thrown it against the wall to see what sticks. The thing is, a LOT of it sticks. They presented lots of things that need investigating -- much of it doesn't really constitute evidence, but surely grounds for suspicion.

Several things in particular struck me as compelling evidence of Israeli involvement:

1. The Dancing Israelis. See Justin Raimondo's columns on Antiwar.com., as well as the forbidden website. NO QUESTION that these guys were Mossad agents, or that they had foreknowledge of the attack. They were set up in advance to photograph the fall of the towers, and they were dressed up like Arabs to lay a false trail of blame for the attack.

2. Daniel Lewin's presence aboard Flight 11. Lewin was a member of the special Israeli commando unit, the Sayeret Matkal, which specializes in "anti-hijack" takeovers and assassinations. Lewin was mentioned by Flight 11 stewardess Betty Ong via airphone from Flight ll (identified by his seat number.) But Lewin's role in the hijacking changed in the media THREE times: the initial report was that Lewin was shooting people and leading the hijacking. The next report was that Lewin had struggled with a hijacker and had been shot himself. The final revised story was that Lewin had been stabbed by a hijacker. Lewin's presence on the flight would be an unbelievable coincidence if he were not connected to the hijacking to begin with. And isn't it pretty clear why the official media story had to be changed -- and changed again?

3. The 3 buildings were clearly brought down by controlled demolition. As a practical matter, who could have set the explosive charges? Our government? NO WAY. Al Qaeda? NO WAY. Work crews in the towers would NEVER be sent in by the government, or without an authorized work order from one of the building's executives, most likely the Twin Towers' new owner of only two months . . . who happens to be a friend of both Ariel Sharon and Benjamin Nethanyahu.

4. Certain people were given advance warning of an imminent attack on the towers: Goldman Sachs and Odigo, an Israeli instant messaging company. By whom? Maybe they had friends in Al Qaeda, ya think?

5. Seven of the 19 hijackers are still alive. And very pissed off, to be the victims of identity theft. (Google it; the Guardian had a story on it.) Why would someone about to commit suicide have to hide their identity? Well, if they were really what they were SUPPOSED to be (i.e Islamic radicals), they wouldn't. They'd be proud of their identity. But if they were actually Mossad agents . . .

6. Perhaps the best evidence of SOME kind of conspiracy is the fact that so much real evidence has been destroyed: from the WTC ruins to the flight recordings of the hijacked airliners, to the video recordings at the Pentagon, to the airport surveillance tapes on 9-11. Gone, all of it. No question there's some kind of cover-up going on. The only question is: who's behind it? Our government? Not competent enough, and just one good leak would be a disaster. Al Qaeda operatives? To say it is to laugh. Mossad operatives? In a word: likely. No leaks will come from Israel or Israeli sympathizers, because if the American public ever comes to believe that 9-11 was a Mossad false-flag op, Israel is DEAD MEAT.

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

BTW... RBN but more recent Wake-Up as well!  

http://republicbroadcasting.org/?p=7058


Thanks for the link MikeWB!