Documentary with a New Paradigm- What has been the Role of the Jews in the NWO? You'll be Surprise !

[uroko]

Yeah, I fixed the part about Prescott Bush marrying Dorothy Walker.  Now it is clearer that he married her before joining W A Harriman & Co.  I figured I better do it quick ... sorry, pas, that you had to look for the newer version - glad you found it.  

The new link is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHNxjAThiqA

P.S. I'm pretty excited about part 12, which I'm working on now.  It deals with all the stuff we've all been talking about in recent posts.   You can't even really get into this stuff without first dealing with all the other material in Uroko parts 1-10 first, (a year's work LoL).

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

In short, I am very aware of the importance of the Rothschilds. I hold a somewhat minority POV however in terms of the overall picture.

Dude, you are starting to speak out of both side of your mouth. Which is more important, the "Bushes" or the "Rothschilds"?

Are the "Bushes" leaders throughout history in creating these organizations,  or PUPPETS of the Rothschilds,  like JP Morgan?

Like I said before, your "Bush" focus is clouding your Criminal Jew Focus (Rothschilds).
There have been years of deception of pointing at Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld or the Illuminati rather then Criminal Talmudic Jewry which in the end game is running the show... It would be nice to see Part 13 cover the Talmud throughout history. Maybe you can put that in? No?

I'm not convinced it was started by "Jews", my take, which everyone is familiar with I assume, is that the Zionist-international ruling elite club commonality is dragon/Kabbalistic,  not Jewish per-se.  :wtf:  "To create Israel"? Yes, that was one of the goals - in fact they tried getting that ball rolling in WWI. I look at WWII as the war to finish the job - not just to get Jewish immigration to Palestine at a significant level, but also to give international governance another go ... the League of Nations failed of course, and WWII gave them (TM) the UN, IMF and World Bank, so their decision to have another war payed off handsomely. This is all gonna be in part 12 by the way.

Jew, Jew, Jew, Jew, Jew oh... almost forgot... JEW ... focus on what the Problem is throughout history like Nesta Webster and Eustace Mullins did. It's the Jews.
You never heard of Nesta Webster or read her works but then use   "dragon/Kabbalistic"  You overlook the Rothschilds and criminal Jewry by a wide margin here. I don't know why you do this in your movies...starting with a rather unknown "Szabios Cult" and then linking it up through the ages. I'm starting to smell "Shill" from your work... why?... since you seem "so studied" and detailed on so many points ....  but you are missing the very obvious and much larger players in the game that are frankly carrying on today out of Israel. You'll look at BUSH and their lineages but forget all about Kissinger and that Rumsfeld and Cheney were understudies of Kissinger.  It seems you speak from both sides of your mouth with your movie -- you can't include "this" but exclude "that" just because you think it is not relevant.   And frankly I'm not that impressed with it for what it LEAVES OUT OF THE STORY....  you know about Herzl and Rothschild ... hmm give us list here at TIU of all the books-sources you've read to create you movie. We'd be interested in seeing it.  Yeah you are clever... but we tolerate Jew Shills here TIU in any manner or even "half"Jew shilling by people interested in these topics.  I got the impression now that if you are not a Jew your are definitely shilling for their program whether you know it or not... Protocols of the Elders of Zion have you read it?

Again, you are starting to smell like a Jew "Shill" and believe me... I've smoked out some good ones on various forums.

Do you read here at TIU or just post on this thread... that has already debunked large parts of your movies??? -- The CSR   (yeah... this is an attack on the content of your movies).

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

This are the first 10 parts of UROKO, I'll wait to get my humble verdict until I'd seen it all, I'm waiting for the rest, I leave you now with what seens to be their core theory in the link here below, bye bye for now.

This is from /tab's first post..... my verdict --- > "SHILL"  :down:

[uroko]

You think I'm a shill?   That's a laugh.  I'm not religious at all - it's all a joke, but I was raised Methodist.  

If you had watched my flick, why did you post those links to Mullins' work?   DId you imagine for a second that I hadn't read Mullins?   I'm so bored of the standard "Jews did-it" meme.  Oh, Cecil Rhodes was secretly a Jew.   Morgan was a Jew.  The Bush's were secretly Jews.  Rockefeller must have been a Jew.    The Jews want Palestine, so Rothschild pulled strings in Britain.  Britain wanted the kikes out, so they gave Rothschild Palestine.   It took a couple hundred years and the heads of a king and queen and countless thousands of English, both noble and common, to move Britain from Catholic to Protestant.   They just rolled over to appease one family of bankers?  Is that why Britain is pro-Israeli?

You believe all that?  

I'm looking for WHY gentile (Christian) and Jewish factions have been cooperating over the last 5 hundred years to get control of the planet.  You ask what books I've read ... how about this, I read everything I can get my hands on that's in the path of what I'm interested in at the time, and I THINK FOR MYSELF.    And, I take things cherry picked by people like Eric Huff-n-puff and Daryl Smith with a grain of salt.   Because I know xxx-hating propoganda when I see it, and I know that getting people to take sides and blame large groups is THE classic debilitating tactic practiced by the elite.  Are you not familiar with the ABC's of co-intel?  

I came here because some of you folks took an interest in my flick.   I kept my mind open as to the collective POV of the posters here.  I'm not sure why I even bothered.  If your (CSR) POV is representative, maybe you should just change the name of the site to "The Jews Did It" and not split hairs.

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Sorry... let me correct that:   an A.J. Shill  :down: (co-intel mentioned)...

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Then you have the perplexing fact that the American robber barons of the later 19th century so involved in the hijacking of America who partnered with Jewish bankers like the Rothschilds, the Warburgs and Jacob Schiff were all gentile.  Then after they had all climbed into bed together they (and their offspring) did the craziest thing.   They banded together and financed Hitler's war machine.

Why???  And why are the present leaders of America and Britain so unwavering in their support of Israel, to the extent that they pass multi-billion dollar aid-packages while looking the other way as Israel commits blatant war crimes against Palestinians and Lebanese?

The easy way around these conundrums is just to take religion out of the equation and rack everything up to greed.   ... Easy, yes, but not very satisfying.  Needless to say, I kept digging.

Finally I discovered connections between some early American tycoons and the British and Dutch East India Companies, and found that many of the wealthy Americans who got involved with the European bankers of their time had made their fortunes the same way the British and Dutch East India companies had -  selling slaves or opium. And I knew that those companies protected their monopolies with the force of their gunships - yet these Americans (Astors, Russells, etc.) were allowed to get in on the rackets!  And that most of the early investors in the British and Dutch companies had been Jewish merchants and Freemasons!!  And that Freemasonry evolved from the banned Templar Knights, the first international bankers!!!  And that the Templars under different names had partnered with Jewish merchants in Spain and Portugal!!!!

Finally I could see why Jews and Freemasons as groups get so much flack in regards to a so-called world-wide conspiracy.   What is actually the case is that early Freemasons and certain Jewish merchants and bankers played a significant role in defining the colonialism of our modern world, but that Normans in control of England (and to some extent Germanic descendents of the Magyar-Huns) were also significant players, and that Freemasonry itself was simply an outgrowth of the Templar knights, whose order was created by Normans.

And I noticed something else quite interesting ... a constant power struggle seems to have persisted between these groups (collectively) and the Catholic Church. Did you know that the Freemasons do not allow Catholic inductees?   Methodist? No problem. Episcopalian? In ya go. Anglican? Lutheran? Jew? - fine.  Catholic?  Sorry.  In fact the 'Knights of Columbus', a pseudo-"masonic" order separate from Freemasonry, was created specifically to cater to Catholics (who couldn't get in to any real Freemasonic orders).   Another curious footnote, the US has had only one Catholic president in its history ... John F. Kennedy, who didn't last long in that post.

Could it be that at the level of the ruling class non-Catholic Christian families had much more in common with (elite) Jewish families than Catholic ones?   The answer is yes.  When Vatican-aligned Bank of America was established in San Fransisco in the early 20th century John Peirpont Morgan all but declared war on the new upstart bank.  The blood-lines of the ruling elite nearly all trace back to Normans who trace back again to a mix of Vikings and Franks, or to Jewish Germanic families which ultimately trace back to Khazaria. Each of these cultures thrived where the Catholic power of Rome was weakest or non-existant.


It's not so cut-and-dry, the Germanic Holy Emperors play an important role in the family histories of our modern ruling elite, and they were blessed by Rome ... but they were essentially Hunnic families which intermarried with Nordic families.  Also, among the early crusaders were some noble Frankish families of Aquitaine and Toulouse, but these houses were, I am convinced, Cathar, even if they tried to hide the fact - one of the bloodiest Catholic inquisitions in history was the Albigensian Crusade, an attempt to wipe out the Cathar movement in France.   Catharism was wiped out (following an orgy of blood-letting, torture and mass burnings unequalled in history) among the populace, but the nobles of Aquitaine and Toulouse (centers of Catharism) appear to have continued to embrace the heretic ideology, "courtly love" and all that.  

If you are confused as to what the #%$& I'm talking about (or its significance), in the 8th century the great Frankish king Charlemagne appealed to the Exilarch of Baghdad to send to France "seed" of the royal House of David, and so Rabbi Makhir moved to Narbonne in the south of France where he recieved lands and title.  It was from Makhir's kingdom that Catharism spread.  The noble families of Aquitaine and Toulouse which embraced Catharism got on well with the Vikings who had conquered northern France, and the top families began to intermarry.  Later after the Norman conquest of England the first Crusade was declared and many Dukes of Aquitaine and Counts of Toulouse fought alongside the Normans in the holy land.  Raymond IV of Toulouse, regarded as the first crusader, was a Duke of Narbonne and almost certainly a Cathar (the French Cathar movement started in Narbonne), as was his grandson-in-law, William XI "the troubadour" of Aquitaine, another famous crusader whose granddaughter Eleanor of Aquitaine married King Henry II of England.

But wait, weren't the Crusades called for by the Roman Catholic Church, and weren't the Templar Knights the pope's own militia   Yes ... however, there's a twist.


St. Bernard of Clairveaux
At the time the Templars were formed the reigning pope was actually a mole, an insider, pope Innocent II who had been promoted to that post by the patriarch of the Templars themselves, Bernard of Clairveaux.

The 'Clairveaux' in Bernard's name derives from a Cisterian monastery he founded which he named Claire Vallée, in the Champagne district of Normandy.  Some of the original Templar Knights were from this same region, and the name Claire strongly suggests who Bernard really was and where his loyalties lied - for the descendents of Rollo the Viking all took the name Claire, or St. Claire, or in Britain Sinclair.

This is all not as complicated as it might seem - simply, the devil is in the details (no pun intended;).  These details I will try and flush out in other posts here.  The big picture, once one gets a glimpse of it, is quite simple.

Following the 9th century Viking invasion of northern France, their subsequent mixing with the Franks, and the simultaneous entry of Hunnic and Jewish migrants from Khazaria into Hungary and eastern Europe,  the ruling elite of these various groups began vying for power and conquering territory.  They also formed alliances and intermarried, changing the face of the aristocracy of Europe and Britain forever.  The kicker is, this convergence in Medieval Europe of these peoples could be thought of as a reunion of sorts - for the Vikings, Franks, Magyar-Huns and Kabars all share a common heritage.

Obviously, blood lines do not run in straight-lines, they bleed all over the place, peoples tend to mix, and cultures tend to change.  However the ruling elite do not marry just anyone, they marry among their own kind, or marriages are arranged to strengthen alliances, and there is good evidence that dragon-culture persisted through the ages among these peoples.  Even more astounding, if you trace them back in history independently they all appear to have split off from the same Ba'al worshipping culture of the northern Levant/northwestern Mesopotamia circa 2500 or 3000 years ago.

It is to this nexus that own modern western elite connect - not just culturally, as evidenced by things such as the 'Cremation of Care' performed yearly at the Bohemian Grove, not just in the plundering pirate-mentality and belief in a special mandate to rule seemingly shared by the top political and business elite in the west, but in many cases by blood.

This whole idea is controversial - so call it a theory, one to which I subscribe.  The rest is all just picking up clues from the real world, from the historical record, from various texts including the writings of Greek historians, the Bible and a multitude of myths, from family crests, and from archeological finds and DNA research, and seeing if they all support such a view.  

In short, they do.  

http://urokomovie.com/5000_years_old.shtml


Dude, before you read Eustace Mullins completely, here's a good video for you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0oDRYvoqPM

[VoltaXebec]

To supplement the Jim Condit video, here is a good interview of Jim by Christopher Jon Bjerknes.

Discussion is about Condit's documentary  "The Final Solution to Adolf Hitler"

http://www.jewishracism.com/Condit24May2007.mp3

[Christopher Marlowe]

I'm so bored of the standard "Jews did-it" meme.  Oh, Cecil Rhodes was secretly a Jew.   Morgan was a Jew.  The Bush's were secretly Jews.  Rockefeller must have been a Jew.    The Jews want Palestine, so Rothschild pulled strings in Britain.  Britain wanted the kikes out, so they gave Rothschild Palestine.   It took a couple hundred years and the heads of a king and queen and countless thousands of English, both noble and common, to move Britain from Catholic to Protestant.   They just rolled over to appease one family of bankers?  Is that why Britain is pro-Israeli?

You believe all that?

Uh...no.  You don't really describe what actually happened when the Jews KILLED the king of England in order to return and establish the Bank of England.  Here is a concise history from Brother Kapner (a former Jew who got wise and became a Christian and now HONESTLY reports about the Jewish schemes to destroy human life and Christian culture.)

OLIVER CROMWELL & THE BEHEADING OF KING CHARLES I IN 1649
FINANCED BY THE JEWS
http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=86
JEWISH BANKERS FROM AMSTERDAM led by the Jewish financier and army contractor of Cromwell's New Model Army, Fernandez Carvajal and assisted by Portuguese Ambassador De Souza, a Marano (secret Jew), saw an opportunity to exploit in the civil unrest led by Oliver Cromwell in 1643.

A stable Christian society of ancient traditions binding the Monarchy, Church, State, nobles and people into one solemn bond was disrupted by Calvin's Protestant uprising. The Jews of Amsterdam exploited this civil unrest and made their move. They contacted Oliver Cromwell in a series of letters:

Cromwell To Ebenezer Pratt of the Mulheim Synagogue in Amsterdam,
16th June 1647:
— "In return for financial support will advocate admission of Jews to England: This however impossible while Charles living. Charles cannot be executed without trial, adequate grounds for which do not at present exist. Therefore advise that Charles be assassinated, but will have nothing to do with arrangements for procuring an assassin, though willing to help in his escape." —

To Oliver Cromwell From Ebenezer Pratt, 12th July 1647:
— "Will grant financial aid as soon as Charles removed and Jews admitted. Assassination too dangerous. Charles shall be given opportunity to escape: His recapture will make trial and execution possible. The support will be liberal, but useless to discuss terms until trial commences." —

Cromwell had carried out the orders of the Jewish financiers and beheaded, (yes, Cromwell and his Jewish sponsors must face Christ!), King Charles I on January 30 1649.

On 9th January "a High Court of Justice" to try the King was proclaimed. Two-thirds of its members were Levelers from the Army. Algernon Sidney warned Cromwell:

    "First, the King can be tried by no court. Second, no man can be tried by this court."

So writes Hugh Ross Williamson in his Charles and Cromwell; and he adds a finishing touch to the effect that

    "no English lawyer could be found to draw up the charge, which was eventually entrusted to an accommodating alien, Isaac Dorislaus."

     Needless to say, Isaac Dorislaus was exactly the same sort of alien as Carvajal and Manasseh Ben Israel and the other financiers who paid the "Protector" his blood money.
http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/wars ... ss/1.shtml

Beginning in 1655, Cromwell, through his alliance with the Jewish bankers of Amsterdam and specifically with Manasseh Ben Israel and his brother-in-law, David Abravanel Dormido, initiated the resettlement of the Jews in England.

JEWS GET THEIR CENTRAL BANK OF ENGLAND

WILLIAM STADHOLDER, a Dutch army careerist, was a handsome chap with money problems. The Jews saw another opportunity and through their influence arranged for William's elevation to Captain General of the Dutch Forces. The next step up the ladder for William was his elevation by the Jews to the aristocratic title of William, Prince of Orange.

The Jews then arranged a meeting between William and Mary, the eldest daughter of the Duke of York. The Duke was only one place removed from becoming King of England. In 1677 Princess Mary of England married William Prince of Orange. To place William upon the throne of England it was necessary to get rid of both Charles II and the Duke of York who was slated to become James II of the Stuarts. It is important to note that none of the Stuarts would grant charter for an English national bank. That is why murder, civil war, and religious conflicts plagued their reigns by the Jewish bankers.

In 1685, King Charles II died and the Duke of York became King James II of England. In 1688 the Jews ordered William Prince of Orange to land in England at Torbay. Because of an ongoing Campaign of L'Infamie against King James II contrived by the Jews, he abdicated and fled to France. William of Orange and Mary were proclaimed King and Queen of England.

The real objective of the "Glorious Revolution" was achieved a few years later in 1694, when the Royal consent was given for the setting up of the "Bank of England" and the institution of the National Debt.

     This charter handed over to an anonymous committee the Royal prerogative of minting money; converted the basis of wealth to gold; and enabled the international money lenders to secure their loans on the taxes of the country, instead of the doubtful undertaking of some ruler or potentate which was all the security they could previously obtain.

     From that time economic machinery was set in motion which ultimately reduced all wealth to the fictitious terms of gold which the Jews control; and drained away the life blood of the land, the real wealth which was the birthright of the British peoples....

     The political and economic union of England and Scotland was shortly afterwards forced upon Scotland with wholesale corruption, and in defiance of formal protests from every county and borough. The main objects of the Union were to suppress the Royal Mint in Scotland, and to force upon her, too, responsibility for the "National Debt."

    The grip of the moneylender was now complete throughout Britain. The danger was that the members of the new joint Parliament would sooner or later, in the spirit of their ancestors, challenge this state of affairs. To provide against this, therefore, the party system was now brought into being, frustrating true national reaction and enabling the wire-pullers to divide and rule; using their newly-established financial power to ensure that their own men and their own policies should secure the limelight, and sufficient support from their newspapers, pamphlets, and banking accounts to carry the day.

     Gold was soon to become the basis of loans, ten times the size of the amount deposited. In other words, 100 pounds in gold would be legal security for 1,000 pounds of loan; at 3% therefore 100 pounds in gold could earn 30 pounds interest annually with no more trouble to the lender than the keeping of a few ledger entries.

     The owner of 100 pounds of land, however, still must work every hour of daylight in order to make perhaps 4%. The end of the process must only be a matter of time. The moneylenders must become millionaires; those who own and work the land, the Englishman and the Scotsman, must be ruined. The process has continued inexorably till now, when it is nearly completed.

     It has been hypocritically camouflaged by clever propaganda as helping the poor by mulcting the rich. It has been in reality nothing of the kind. It has been in the main the deliberate ruination of the landed classes, the leaders among the Gentiles, and their supplanting by the Jew financiers and their hangers-on.
http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/wars ... ss/1.shtml

The new King William III soon got England involved in costly wars against Catholic France which put England deep into debt. Here was the Jewish bankers' chance to collect. So King William, under orders from the Elders of Zion in Amsterdam, persuaded the British Treasury to borrow 1.25 million pounds sterling from the Jewish bankers who had helped him to the throne.

Since the state's debts had risen dramatically, the government had no choice but to accept. But there were conditions attached: The names of the lenders were to be kept secret and that they be granted a Charter to establish a Central Bank of England. Parliament accepted and the Jewish bankers sunk their tentacles into Great Britain.

ENTER THE ROTHSCHILDS

MAYER AMSCHEL BAUER OPENED a money lending business on Judenstrasse (Jew Street) in Frankfurt Germany in 1750 and changed his name to Rothschild. Mayer Rothschild had five sons. The smartest of his sons, Nathan, was sent to London to establish a bank in 1806. Much of the initial funding for the new bank was tapped from the British East India Company which Mayer Rothschild had significant control of. Mayer Rothschild placed his other four sons in Frankfort, Paris, Naples, and Vienna.

In 1814, Nathanael Rothschild saw an opportunity in the Battle of Waterloo. Early in the battle, Napoleon appeared to be winning and the first military report to London communicated that fact. But the tide turned in favor of Wellington. A courier of Nathan Rothschild brought the news to him in London on June 20. This was 24 hours before Wellington's courier arrived in London with the news of Wellington's victory. Seeing this fortuitous event, Nathan Rothschild began spreading the rumor that Britain was defeated.

With everyone believing that Wellington was defeated, Nathan Rothschild began to sell all of his stock on the English Stock Market. Everyone panicked and also began selling causing stocks to plummet to practically nothing. At the last minute, Nathan Rothschild began buying up the stocks at rock-bottom prices.

This gave the Rothschild family complete control of the British economy - now the financial centre of the world and forced England to set up a revamped Bank of England with Nathan Rothschild in control.
(See Sources #4 Below )

ALL ABOUT THE JEWISH VATICAN
(As much as that is possible given Rothschild secrecy)

A PRIVATE FINANCIAL CORPORATION exists today in England known as "The City." It is also known as The Jewish Vatican located in the heart of Greater London.

A Committee of 12 men rule The Jewish Vatican. They are known as "The Crown." The City and its rulers, The Crown, are not subject to the Parliament. They are a Sovereign State within a State.

The City is the financial hub of the world. It is here that the Rothschilds have their base of operations and their centrality of control:

* The Central Bank of England (controlled by the Rothschilds) is located in The City.
* All major British banks have their main offices in The City.
* 385 foreign banks are located in The City.
* 70 banks from the United States are located in The City.
* The London Stock Exchange is located in The City.
* Lloyd's of London is located in The City.
* The Baltic Exchange (shipping contracts) is located in The City.
* Fleet Street (newspapers & publishing) is located in The City.
* The London Metal Exchange is located in The City.
* The London Commodity Exchange (trading rubber, wool, sugar, coffee) is located in The City.

Every year a Lord Mayor is elected as monarch of The City. The British Parliament does not make a move without consulting the Lord Mayor of The City. For here in the heart of London are grouped together Britain's financial institutions dominated by the Rothschild-controlled Central Bank of England. The Rothschilds have traditionally chosen the Lord Mayor since 1820. Who is the present day Lord Mayor of The City? Only the Rothschilds' know for sure...

You see, if the history of England during the civil war and Cromwell is described merely as one between Protestants and Catholics, it misses the point that the Cromwellian protestant faction was a proxy for Jewish bankers.  A key point made above was that NO ENGLISH LAWYER, Protestant or otherwise, would draw up the papers to execute king Charles I.  They had to get a foreign Jew to do that.  The legal Protestant parliament wouldn't vote to execute the king, Cromwell had to purge the parliament down to his "Rump".  The facts show that the Protestants who executed the king were working for Jewish Gold.

And the result of the "Glorious Revolution" was the Bank of England. Uroko, dude, don't you get it?  England was RULED BY THE BANK OF ENGLAND and the Jews who controlled it.  This isn't

"things cherry picked by people like Eric Huff-n-puff and Daryl Smith".  

Look at the Opium wars in China. China stopped the opium trade and England fought TWO WARS forcing China to allow the trade to continue.  Who ran the opium trade? A Jew named David Sassoon.

And this framing of the debate is what smells shilly:

Because I know xxx-hating propoganda [sic] when I see it, and I know that getting people to take sides and blame large groups is THE classic debilitating tactic practiced by the elite.

xxx-hating propaganda?  (I'm guessing that "xxx" stands for "Jew" and not "sexy, naked Jews".)  You take facts like: Jews paying for the Cromwell takeover of England.
Jews paying for the "Glorious Revolution."
A quid pro quo establishment of the Bank of England and its subsequent usury/fractional reserve fraud by Jews.
Wars fought specifically for enforcing immoral monopolies run by Jews.
And you call that "cherry picked" evidence and "xxx-hating propaganda"?

In the immortal words of Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi: WTF?  

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt, that you are not a shill, and instead diagnose your condition as one of "cognitive dissonance".

Cognitive dissonance is an uncomfortable feeling caused by holding two contradictory ideas simultaneously. The theory of cognitive dissonance proposes that people have a motivational drive to reduce dissonance by changing their attitudes, beliefs, and behaviors, or by justifying or rationalizing them.
...
A cognitive bias is the human tendency to draw incorrect conclusions in certain circumstances based on cognitive factors rather than evidence. Such biases are thought to be a form of "cognitive shortcut", often based upon rules of thumb, and include errors in statistical  judgment, social attribution, and memory.
Wikipedia

DoubleThink is described by Wikipedia as being the opposite of Cognitive Dissonance, but I see it as just another form of adapted non-thinking.  

Applied to the case at hand we have the contradictory ideas: 1) Jews are the bees' knees; 2) Jews have a history of cabalistic mischief making focused around fractional reserve lending.

The first idea is widely held by anyone familiar with television, movies and news. Jews are always seen in the TV and movies as being honest, fair, hard-working and intelligent.  The newspapers and TV news avoid talking about Jewish scandals. The media presentation of Jews is therefore always positive.  A very important fact to keep in mind about this first idea is that almost ALL of the media is OWNED and WRITTEN and PRODUCED by JEWS.

The second idea is one that can be uncovered from sources of history that have not been written or paid for by Jews.  As I showed above, a very simple outline can PROVE the existence of a Jewish Cabal; its motivation; its operation; and its chief proponents.  Another example is the Russian Revolution: paid for, planned and executed by Jews. Many authors have documented this fact, but the Jewish Mainstream Media is completely ignorant.

So a person hypnotized by the Jewish MSM has Idea 1 in his head. He begins to read about Idea 2 and suddenly he has

an uncomfortable feeling caused by holding two contradictory ideas simultaneously

How does he respond?
Well, he could create a "cognitive shortcut" and

draw incorrect conclusions in certain circumstances based on cognitive factors rather than evidence.

He IGNORES the evidence of the Jewish Cabal. Instead he states that the evidence has been "cherry picked" by people who just hate xxxs.

I ran into this the other day when I commented (over and over again) on a youtube video that israel did 9/11. The people who were watching that video were mostly israel-loving Jews, and they responding by calling me the worst names, including of course "nazi" and "anti-semite".  I quoted the MSM journals that had uncovered the facts that pointed to israeli involvement, including the Jewish Forward.  

But these people couldn't handle the Truth. The two contradictory ideas caused them too much pain. First of all, they reduced the jewish cabal within israel as being "all the Jews". [I never said that "all the Jews" did 9/11. But certainly the Jewish state of israhell did 9/11. And it was done in secret. It was certainly a Jewish cabal.] They made it into an accusation against them personally. And they felt more than justified in lying, calling me names and DENYING the facts.  

Idea 2 stood in stark contrast to what they have been told all their lives: idea 1.  

But really there is no reason to turn off our brains when we have a conflict.  That is the time to turn our brains on.
Wisdom can resolve these conflicts and bring peace.  

The answer here is simple.  Idea 1 is flawed because no group of people is as perfect as the media presents the Jews. Jews are no better than normal people. And in fact, the media praise of them as superior and the tendency to excuse everything they do as victims of pogroms and holocausts allows them to justify horrific behavior. Further, their own tradition is one of avoiding "a shanda fur die goyim", which means to do something embarrassing to Jews where non-Jews can observe it.  Ostensibly, this would mean avoiding the behavior that is shameful, but if you look at the actual use of, it closely resembles that of the mafia "omerta", or code of silence.

Omertà implies "the categorical prohibition of cooperation with state authorities or reliance on its services, even when one has been victim of a crime.  Even if somebody is convicted for a crime he has not committed, he is supposed to serve the sentence without giving the police any information about the real criminal, even if that criminal has nothing to do with the Mafia himself. Within Mafia culture, breaking omertà is punishable by death.

If you read the comments on Jewish blogs, Jewish people often use that "shanda" phrase to mean: "don't talk about our dirty laundry in front of the goyim". So it's not the doing of the thing that brings the shame, it's the talking about the thing in public that brings the shame.  

What sort of people has a tradition of covering up only those crimes committed by their own tribe? A crime family? A cabal?

And perhaps we goyim that have been hypnotized by the Jewish mainstream media have also adapted that tradition of shanda on the goyim.  When we uncover crimes committed by Jews, we cover them up from our own minds. Despite all the evidence, we say it is "cherry-picked" without bothering to show any hidden "cherries". Despite the obvious guilt, we say the proof of the crime was inspired by hate. [We even go so far as to replace the names of the guilty with the salacious "xxx"   ]    

I'm looking for WHY gentile (Christian) and Jewish factions have been cooperating over the last 5 hundred years to get control of the planet.

I'll make this very easy for you: The 3 B's. Bribery, Blackmail, and the Bullet.
And if a group comprising less than one percent of the world's population also happens to represent 7 out 10 of the world's billionaires, would you tend to think that this group of people are cooperating or tricking the gentiles?

I know that getting people to take sides and blame large groups is THE classic debilitating tactic practiced by the elite.

Would you also say that hypnotizing and frightening people into not saying the obvious truth about who the guilty parties are is also a debilitating tactic of the xxx?  I mean, the elite?  
And when you say elite, do you mean billionaire elite?  

Think of the Russian Revolution, which was a Jewish Revolution. What was the first law they passed?
A law that made antisemitism a crime punishable by death.
Why?
Because if people started saying WHO was running the revolution, it would soon become apparent to the largely Christian country of Russia that their government and factories and schools and farms had all been taken over by a group of Jews funded by Wall Street bankers.
Talk about a shanda on the goyim.  

I kept my mind open as to the collective POV of the posters here.  I'm not sure why I even bothered.

Did you really keep an open mind? Did you ever once consider the Truth of what is being presented here?

Here's an honest method for assessment devoid of cognitive dissonance.  Take a sheet of paper (blank word doc) and write a hypothesis at the top. For example: israel did 9/11
Then beneath that make a PRO column and a CON column.  In the appropriate column list all the evidence which supports that side.  

I think if you are honest, you will find the evidence pointing to israel is a mile long with no countervailing CONS.  That is not cherry picking. That is not xxx-hating.  Those are FACTS. That is logic. That is the TRUTH.  

I came here because some of you folks took an interest in my flick.     If your (CSR) POV is representative, maybe you should just change the name of the site to "The Jews Did It" and not split hairs.

I saw some talent in your film-making, but I waited to judge it because I wanted to see what conclusions you drew. You seem to be unwilling to address the overwhelming facts of Jewish Cabals in these matters. I am willing to believe you suffer from cognitive dissonance, and that you are not a shill.

I think it is fair to say that Mr. Cracksmoke represents the thoughts of many on this forum, but you do him a disservice to summarize his reasoning as cognitive bias. Engage him in a debate and he will respond fairly with facts. He will use reason to arrive at a conclusion.

Jesus answered him: I have spoken openly to the world: I have always taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither all the Jews resort; and in secret I have spoken nothing.

Why asketh thou me? ask them who have heard what I have spoken unto them: behold they know what things I have said.  And when he had said these things, one of the servants standing by, gave Jesus a blow, saying: Answerest thou the high priest so?  Jesus answered him: If I have spoken evil, give testimony of the evil; but if well, why strikest thou me?

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Oh, Cecil Rhodes was secretly a Jew. Morgan was a Jew. The Bush's were secretly Jews. Rockefeller must have been a Jew. The Jews want Palestine, so Rothschild pulled strings in Britain. Britain wanted the kikes out, so they gave Rothschild Palestine. It took a couple hundred years and the heads of a king and queen and countless thousands of English, both noble and common, to move Britain from Catholic to Protestant. They just rolled over to appease one family of bankers? Is that why Britain is pro-Israeli?

You believe all that?

Dear Uruko, I think the problem right now is that you really want to finish the documentary, but the question is DO you want to put it right ? then you must first get it right, I mean, do you want to be so near the truth of history as possible? Because you say you have been doing the documentary for already a year and I understand even all the research done by yourself? I think it is dangerous to have a rush to complete it before you got all the pieces together. Nobody here is speaking against "all the jews" and most of the people around TiU's forum have a very deep love and concern for humanity.

You see, Crack Smoke Republican is a good fellow but a bit impulsive, but I think he is not enable to see through the System of imperial Deception but not are you either. Of course I may be wrong, but these are my opinions about it. If you study the Josephus Problem you'll find a clue about the methods of protection and  "get safe" knowing the "ultimate hiding places" in the hierarquical pyramidal spiral of power.  My concept is that is a power hiden behind the construction called "The Jews". This power can be seen/discover by researching the Money/financial/economic system. At the top of those system we found several Banking/Financial houses. The thing is that House of Rothschild (and here you MUST ABSOLUTLY do the research)  is behind and in command of a lot of the war industry, the drog industry, the economical system of usury and opression etc, but they are using several agents (gatekeepers, cryptos, jews, non jews, pervers, and even normal but blackmailed people) so is not that evident who is behind, according with the mathematics of Josephus the safest place on a chessboard is OUTSIDE the board, just been the (hidden) hand moving the pieces. This AGENT/chess piece moving and peeking is very effective when the method of "creating action and reaction from the shadows" is on demand, because you'll find everywhere traces that the agents left behind, the you can by deduction think that you are finding the truth but not realizing that you finding the puppets trace and missing the puppeteers hands. Take for example Cecil Rhodes. When reading Carroll Quigley (beware, he was sympathetic to the elite's agenda), The Anglo-American Establishment- you'll find there all the references to the House of Rothschild and of course a lot and variate of associates and partners in crime, this research is already done there when speaking about Cecil Rhodes:

http://files.meetup.com/196633/CAROL%20QUIGLEY.pdf

When speaking of the Rockefellers, well, we know that they were financied by the agents of House of Rothschild put in place in the US. Yes, is a lot of actors in this global drama, but you must know that in any hierarquical structure, there is A TOP in the chain of Power. Be careful not to be distracted researching the agents and by that been confused (by Josephus design) mixin' up the smoke with the fire. When you are talking about England, read please the references Christopher Marlowe was giving you. Discover who is behind the throne of England and you will discover why they are not opposing this power. Look right here at the first link below

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Cromwell#King_tried_and_executed

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edict_of_Expulsion

As Lord Protector, Cromwell was aware of the contribution the Jewish community made to the economic success of Holland, now England's leading commercial rival. It was this—allied to Cromwell's toleration of the right to private worship of those who fell outside evangelical Puritanism—that led to his encouraging Jews to return to England in 1657, over 350 years after their banishment by Edward I, in the hope that they would help speed up the recovery of the country after the disruption of the Civil Wars.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Cromwell

There is a lot I could write but for now I 'll leave you with this : House of Rothschild/Oppenheimer & Co. are not just bankers. They are all coming from ancients families of Rabbis/ Warlords of the Kabbalah.  We all want a better world for our children and mankind, we hate Opression and Domination and we will not stop fighting this imperial power even if the research seeking the truth take us to political incorrect places.  We are against criminals and the investigation is taking us in the direction of the financial/industry of war elites, that've been the case.

When researching the elites, beware of the plant traps on the way so you don't get catch pointing at the smoke instead of the fire . . .



greetings, /tab



 

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[Christopher Marlowe]

Brilliant summary Tab.

The picture at the bottom was an an excellent representation of how these false stories "trap" us, and prevent us from discovering the Truth.  

But it made me sad.  

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

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[uroko]

Great post, Tab, and Christopher Marlowe, I wasn't aware of that aspect of the beheading of king Charles and William of Orange.

Makes perfect sense, and I was aware that the Bank of England's control over British currency and William of Orange were connected, but I hadn't done the research.

I do know that William of Orange was a Stewart though.   He didn't become king just because of his wife - he too was connected to that Scottish royal Stewart family, and so was a descendent of Arloga and her father Vladimir I of Kiev and his Khazar descended wife Anna of Porphyrogenita ... Therein lies the rub in my view, which I'm gonna make clearer below.  

Maybe some of you guys might think I'm somehow an apologist for Jewish/Zionist control (to me, equivalent to destruction of everything potentially good about this world).   I'm not.  

A friend recently posted a short video titled 'Who Created the Modern State of Israel?!' at another website, which I responded to and we had some discussion.

The flick was made by a woman, I don't know her name, who previously had made a long movie titled 'Ring of Power', which I had some problems with for inaccuracies.  That eventually led to this post, which I will duplicate here because I feel that it clearly represents my point of view.   I'm posting it as I wrote it, it is somewhat long.  

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Sorry it took a little while to get back to you, Quest.   I went back and watched that again, it's a pretty good flick and I give her a thumbs up for her efforts and for telling a part of the story which few people are aware of.  But again, her view is somewhat myopic IMO.   Here's a perfect example, the idea that the Rothschilds horse-traded with England for a piece of Palestine in return for US involvement in WWI.  This is sort of accurate but only part of the story.  One motivating factor for the fighting of the first World War was that oil had been discovered in Persia, and  the Turks threatened the Standard Oil/Royal Dutch Shell oil monopoly by their and their German allies' presence in the Middle East.  So kicking the Turks out served not just the Rothschilds who controlled Royal Dutch Shell, but the British whose Navy had switched from coal to oil, and the Rockefellers in the US who owned Standard Oil.  Setting up a British Mandate/fledgeling Jewish state in Palestine after the war served these interests, because it provided a sort of security apparatus in the area.  Secondly, the endowed foundations in the US had been discussing how to get the US involved in WWI from before the war even started - going back to 1908-9 in the case of the Carnegie Endowment according to Norman Dodd.  

I mentioned little inaccuracies as well, like the Rothschild red-shield featuring the Star of David, this is an oft repeated rumor for which there is no evidence (it was probably a two-headed eagle).   But I want to get past all that - where she and I really differ is on a much more fundamental level.   This will take some explaining, but I'm going to try and put it all in a post here (for the record).

The lady who made Ring of Power, if I'm reading her right, builds from the premise that the Hyksos kings of Egypt and the Israelites were one and the same people, and that the expulsion of the Hyksos from Egypt and the 'exodus' of the Hebrews from Egypt to the holy land were one and the same event.   I've looked into this and as far as I can tell, she is correct.   So far we are totally in agreement.   I should say here that it's widely accepted that the Hyksos originally came from northern Canaan/northwest Mesopotamia (an area colored orange on the map below).  The Hyksos were warlike, they had better chariots than the Egyptians, better (composite) bows and their invasion of Egypt nearly 4000 years ago was brutal and bloody.  

Here's how Manetho, the Egyptian historian described the Hysksos invasion -

...a blast of God smote us; and unexpectedly, from the regions of the East, invaders of obscure race marched in confidence of victory against our land.  By main force they easily overpowered the rulers of the land, they then burned our cities ruthlessly, razed to the ground the temples of the gods, and treated all the natives with a cruel hostility, massacring some and leading into slavery the wives and children of others... Aegyptiaca., frag. 42, 1.75-79.2

There were officially 6 Hyksos kings of Egypt who ruled in the 15th and 16th dynasties, until Egypt re-liberated itself and kicked the Hyksos out.  

On the map below #1 would be the Hyksos invasion of Egypt, and #2 would be their expulsion and return to the Levant, to what would become Judea/Israel.

She then (I'm still talking about Ring of Power) connects a slew of place names to the Tribe of Dan, one of the Israelite tribes, and a tribe that was known for its pagan leanings and its seafaring abilities. Names like Denmark, Sardonia, the Don, Danube, Dniester and Dnieper rivers, Danmoni, which meant the (tin) "mines of Dan" which is now Cornwall, Scan-Din-avia, a bunch of Scottish place names like AberDeen and E-Din-burgh can all potentially be linked to the Tribe of Dan (or some other "Dan" people?) and the list is endless.  #3 below would be the Tribe of Dan setting out to conquer the world -



OK, here's a slightly different version of events which I believe to be more complete.  The clues which lead me to believe this are numerous and include, first, something the Greek historian Hecateus wrote about the expulsion of the Hyksos:

"The expelled foreigners followed Danaus and Cadmus from Egypt; but the greater number were led by Moses into Judæa"

Danaus and Cadmus may or may not have been real people, but they represent a migration of tribes from Egypt to Greece.  Everything back then was recorded in myth form, just like the bible. If one can to take this into account and read between the lines, the myths tell us alot about ancient Greece.

Anyway, in the Greek myths there are two pairs of brothers born in Egypt, Aegyptus and Danaus, and Cadmus and Phoenix.  Cadmus and Phoenix set out from Egypt and arrive in Phoenicia (the Levant/Canaan) where Phoenix remains. (It is for him of course that the Greeks called Canaan Phoenicia.)  His brother Cadmus however continues on to Greece, where he slays the Ares dragon and settles Thebes. Thebes BTW, was also the name of a city in Egypt from which many of the Egyptian Pharaohs ruled.  Danaus (note, a "Dan" term!) was a mythical cousin of Cadmus and Phoenix, and he goes straight from Egypt to Greece (or in a different version stops at the island of Rhodes along the way.  There's a whole thing about the 50 sons and 50 daughters of Aegyptus and Danaus, but it's not pertinent so I'll skip all that).  

An interesting correlation between Danau and the Dan of the bible is that Danaus was the son of a king Belus, while the patriarch of the Tribe of Dan was the son of the handmaiden Bilah - somewhat similar names which I suspect both derive from Bel or Ba'al, the Canaanite diety.  Then there is one other figure, Dardanus, who may have been just mythical or may have been a real person, or at least represented real people.  Dardanus migrated from Egypt to Greece and kept going, settling in western Anatolia and founding the city of Dardania on Mt. Ida.  The nearby Dardanelles, a straight which separates Asia and Europe, were named for Dardanus.   This fellow is important because the Trojan kings allegedly trace back to him, Dardanus' grandson was Tros, for whom Troy was named.    

So, you have these and other clues, both mythical and historical, which point to this scenaro: #1, the Hyksos invade Egypt.  (The maker of Ring of Power and I are in full agreement so far.)  #2, the Egyptians kick the Hyksos out, and the line SPLITS.   Some return to the Levant, as represented in the biblical Exodus to become the tribes of Israel and Judea, while others take off in their ships for Greece.  Some remain there and are known as the Danaans, while others move into western Anatolia and Thrace to become Trojan tribes.  Eventually the Trojans lose the Trojan war and many move to the opposite side of the Black Sea, among these peoples are the Aesir and probably Vanir ancestors of the Vikings, and other tribes which will become the Franks, most notably the Cimmerians.  That migration is represented below as #3.  




Also worth noting, the Spartans were probably part of this migration (#2), as is revealed in myth where the Spartan soldiers spring from the teeth of the Ares dragon which Cadmus had slayed (and then planted its teeth in the ground).  Also, there is a passage in the 'Antiquities of the Jews' Book 12 by the 1st century Jewish historian Josephus, where Areus, King Of The Lacedemonians (Spartans) sends a letter to Onius I who was a high priest in Judea at the time (3rd century B.C.), translated:

"Areus, King Of The Lacedemonians, To Onias, Sendeth Greeting.

"We have met with a certain writing, whereby we have discovered that both the Jews and the Lacedemonians are of one stock, and are derived from the kindred of Abraham.  It is but just therefore that you, who are our brethren, should send to us about any of your concerns as you please. We will also do the same thing, and esteem your concerns as our own, and will look upon our concerns as in common with yours. Demoteles, who brings you this letter, will bring your answer back to us. This letter is four-square; and the seal is an eagle, with a dragon in his claws."

The eagle and the dragon (snake actually) were both used as marks of the Tribe of Dan on their banner at different times, and here are described as being on the official seal of the Spartans.  One other thing, the name Sparta probably derives from Subartu, which was an area between the Euphrates and Tigris rivers in northwestern Mesopotamia, the right portion of the area I colored orange on my map.  In between Subartu and the coast I found the name Chalybonitis on an old map, which indicates that the Chalybes/Halybes of Colchis (modern day Georgia) in the Caucasus near the Black Sea during the Greek/Trojan era were also originally from this Ba'al worshipping area.  These Halybes were famous for their weapon-making expertise and apparently gave king Arthur's sword its name, Ex-Calibur (the 'Ex' was for the Exe river in Devon).  

Regarding the linking of European place names to the Tribe of Dan, the "Dan" people who invaded Ireland in antiquity were the Tuatha de Danaan, who are described as having sojourned in Greece and as being a Scythian people - which would make it very unlikely that they and the Tribe of Dan were one and the same.   My view is that the name Dan has deeper significance and that the Tribe of Dan, the Danaan of Greece and the Tuatha de Danaan were simply closely related tribes, probably who all shared a history in Egypt.

Then you have the Huns, or I should say nomadic Hunnic tribes, who also seem to have originated from this little area on the northern Levant I've been talking about. (Evidence here http://urokomovie.com/huns.shtml )  They go all the way to Mongolia (#1 below), fight with the Chinese who call them the "Xiongnu" (while Xiongnu and Chinese Han royalty intermarry a bit), suffer defeats in the 1st century and (#2) head back to Scythia (later to become Khazaria).  Meanwhile the former Trojan tribes of the Black Sea region are migrating into northern Europe and Scandinavia (#3) and will become known alternately as the Franks and the Vikings.  The Saxons are probably part of this same migration too, for the Saka were Scythians. The Huns tried to take over parts of Europe in the 4th and 5th centuries (#4), this is when Attila lived.   Finally in the 9th century the Magyars (closely related to the Huns or a tribe in the Hunnic federation depending on what you read) along with another Khazarian tribe the Kabars, take over Hungary, while on the other side of Europe Rollo and his Vikings take over northern France.  Following these invasions the ruling families of these Vikings and Khazar/Huns and the Frank and Saxon dynasties that are already in place start to intermarry.





That's a whole 'nother big topic that I hesitate to get into, but I will mention that the blood connections between various Germanic houses (like Wettin, Wittelsbach, Hohenstauffen, Babenberg and Brunswick), English, Scot and Frank/Norman royalty, and the noble families of Europe active in the Crusades form a sort of spider web with two related families at its center - the family of Vladimir Grand Prince of Kiev and the Arpad family, the descendents of Attila the Hun who ruled Hungary beginning at the end of the 9th century. This is a highly simplified genealogy, but it gives the idea:

http://urokomovie.com/melissena_genealogy.html

I can't overstate how closely allied the family of Vladimir and this son Yaroslav, who ruled the Ukraine from Kiev, and the Hungarian ruling Arpad family were ... Andrew Arpad, before ascending the throne and becoming King of Hungary lived in exile in Kiev under Yaroslav's protection, and the families are related by marraige - Andrew married Yaroslav's sister Anastasia.  The hier to the English throne, Edward the Exile lived there too, and while the identity of his wife (Agatha) is disputed, she may well have been one of Vladimir's younger daughters.  The daughter of Edward and Agatha, Margaret, was born in Hungary after  they moved there with Andrew who had become king, and she wound up marrying Malcom III king of Scotland and siring the wife and queen of Henry II of England.  If Margaret's mother was a daughter of Vladimir (and there is good evidence she was), her grandmother would have been Anna Porphyrogenita, a Byzantine Princess (a wife of Vladimir's).  She in turn was a close descendent of Melissena, whose ancestors included royal Khazars and Huns.  This Melissena and two of her descendents, one of which (Anna) married Vladimir and another Byzantine princess who married a German Holy Roman Emperor (more about that below) may be very important, for it was the route whereby Khazar royal blood mixed with that of the rest of European royalty.   There is a conspicuous assortment of blue and white coats of arms which follows Melissena's blood descendents and the Jewish/Khazar entry into Germanic Europe around and includes the blue and white checked Bavarian flag.  This color theme appears to originate with the coat of arms of Melissena's grandfather, the Byzantine Emperor Rangabe I.  Above Margaret's head on a stained glass window in a church in Scotland is this same crest - a white cross with fleur-de-lis tips on a blue background, indicating that indeed Margaret's mother was the daughter of Vladimir by Anna Porphyrogenita, hence of royal Khazar descent.  (It is critical to note that the Israeli flag is also blue and white.)  



...That doesn't mean Margaret was Jewish, nor were Anna nor Anna's royal Byzantine ancestors who were in fact Christian, but when Margaret and king Malcom of Scotland later had a son, they named him David - a decidedly Hebrew name for the son of a Scottish pagan king (!).  Meanwhile king Andrew of Hungary, also married to a daughter of Vladimir whose mother may also have been Anna of Porphyrogenita, named one of his sons Solomon.   Very peculiar names indeed for Christian kings at the time, in Hungary or in Scotland.

(By the way, Melissena's significance with regard to the introduction of royal Khazar blood into European royalty was (many and I are convinced) honored in her being immortalized in the myth of Melusine, the mermaid on the Starbucks coffee logo.)        

... Finally, there is the family crest of Vlad, a family which I and at least one [url="http]very smart person[/url] I know of believe descend from this same Vladimir of Kiev, who was very prolific and sired dozens of kids legitimately and probably hundreds illegitimately (he had maybe 800 concubines).  

Check it out - also blue and white, it's practically the flag of Israel:



This pagan symbol, like the crest of Vlad, is of course much older than its use as a symbol of Judaism, and Vladimir was a ruthless pagan (although he converted to Christianity as a condition of marriage to Anna).

The star of David can be found on lots of crests in the elite circle of (non-Jewish) families - one very conspicuous one is the coat of arms of the Payen family:



Payen meant 'Pagan', and Hughe de Payen was the leader of the original 9 Templar Knights.

So, what am I really getting at?  The Franks, the Vikings, the Huns (which I believe included the Bulgars, Khazars, Magyars, Kabars, White Huns Black Huns and Red Huns etc.), maybe the Saxons (I haven't really looked much at them), the ruling class of which together formed the aristocracy of medieval Europe and Britain, and of course the Israelites and Israelite refugees who may well have been part of the Jewish Khazar ruling elite, were ALL originally Hebrews from Canaan, or at least their leaders were, and they were all infamous for their warring ways and excelled at conquering indigenous peoples wherever they went and taking over.  One thing, when I say 'Hebrew', it's very important to understand what I mean.  Hebrews were people descended from Eber, an ancestor of Abraham ... saying someone is Hebrew doesn't mean they are Jewish, and therein lies the rub.   We could extract ourselves from all this food fighting about Jewish involvement in a conspiracy to run the world if people could learn a bit about history and call it what it really is ... a HEBREW conspiracy.  

Anyway, back to topic, one has to wonder if the rulers of these various peoples, who fought one another from time to time, understood this common ancestral connection, or their kinship with the Israelites?   I don't know - but the Franks probably understood their own Trojan roots for they named the capital of Champagne Troyes, interestingly where some of the original Templar knights hailed from.  Furthermore there was a Merovingian named Samson, the Merovingians advertised an alleged blood connection to Mary Magdalene, and Charlemagne sent to the Caliph of Baghdad for "seed" of the Davidic line of kings of Israel, receiving in return Rabbi Makhir who he showered with lands, title and a Frankish wife.      

I left some things out, there's more to the story, there's a lot I don't know, and one can't be 100% certain of any of this stuff, but there are a lot of clues floating around which all point to this sort of history, and there is DEFINITELY some sort of effort to keep this stuff secret - to keep the controversy couched in an 'us against the Jews' format.  Every time I stumble on a particularly significant point of interest to my inquiry, there is controversy, there is censorship - and I mean the available resources going back hundreds of years.  

One last thing, something really surprising I just discovered.  Lots of people have tried to figure out the roots of the Rothschild family, with no success.   But there is another Jewish family nearly as important as the Rothschilds, who have been close allies of the Rothschilds for 2 centuries as well as the owners of the oldest privately held bank in the world, the Warburgs.  Paul Warburg, architect of the Federal Reserve act and his younger brother Max Warburg, head of I.G.Farben before WWII and a director at the Reichsbank at the time are important figures, as everyone knows.  

So I was looking at the Warburgs listed at a genealogy site I like and I saw a bunch of Konrad von Wargergs.  The name Konrad is a red flag to me, you see the name all the time when you go poking around the lineages of Germanic kings and counts and landgraves.   Conrad II was a Holy Roman Emperor and there were a bunch of Conrad or Konrad kings of Germany, Conrad III being the first one of the house of Hohenstauffen (the Cohen family crest is identical to the Hohen crest except for a color change from blue to red) not to mention a slew of Conrad Counts of Bavaria, Swabia and Luxembourgh.

Anyway, go to this link and click on Konrad VI von Warberg's great-grandfather, Konrad von Werberg.    

http://fabpedigree.com/s088/f974686.htm

Then on that page, click on his great-grandfather Konrad I Count of Hagen.  You'll see on his mother's side back a few generations Otto of Saxony and his mother Oda Billung of Thurungia.  Oda Billung of Thurungia was Frank nobility and was possibly the great-granddaughter of Charlemagne.  Her son Otto's son was Henry the Fowler (!), his grandson was Otto the Great, and his son, Otto II was a Holy Roman Emperor ... AND, Otto II married Theophanu of Byzantium who was a close descendent of Melissena, through who royal Khazar  blood flowed into the royal houses of Europe, both through this connection and the marriage of Vladimir (the above-mentioned Grand Prince of Kiev) to Anna Porphyrogenita (one of two royal Khazar-blood pipelines, as I have mentioned - see same [url="http]genealogy link as above[/url], Otto I and Otto II are near the top just left of center.)

And here they all are connected to the Warburg family !!!

One can look at things going on today or in recent history and point to the disruptive and criminal activities of Zionists as well as Jewish bankers at the head of a financial pyramid which controls much of the central banking around the world.  No problems from me there.  But when you try to trace the Jewish faction of the ruling elite back in time (as she attempts to do in Ring of Power) what you find, if you aren't prejuduced to a preconceived POV and let the chips fall where they may, is that the Vikings, Franks, Saxons and Huns who literally built Europe and Britain and the Israelites all have the same roots (at least with regard to the rulers of these peoples), some even appear to have been in Egypt with the proto-Israelites.  The lady who made Ring of Power sort of connects the Israelites to the Vikings, but she does so by claiming that the Vikings were really the Tribe of Dan (??).   Maybe some of them were, but there's a ton of clues that say the Viking and Frank kings descend from the Trojans, who were never in Judea but came to the Agean from Egypt - which explains perfectly the long-held obsession of the western elite with Egyptian symbols. It  is these deep connections between the Jewish banking elite and the Christian ruling elite (all Zionists really, since the first Crusade), connections between the Templars and their Freemason hiers and the Jewish merchants in Portugal, Spain, England and Holland, that tell me that the two are and have long been intimately linked - kissing cousins if you will.  

My problems with movies like this and Ring of Power isn't that she makes minor errors, or that she directs blame for the world's troubles toward Jewish banking families like the Rothschilds ... it's that she leaves the non-Jewish elite out of the equation, and fails to differentiate between Hebrew and Jew.

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End of my post to "Quest".

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

What do you think of these movies?

Mother Goddess & the Dragon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Clq-Giqv ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzxVhLcCH8w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4ZT-IOf0gM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoThe9EzcaE

[Christopher Marlowe]

I thought "Ring of Power" was interesting and well told, but my bullsh*t detector went off several times during the screening.  For example: Vikings were the Six (VI) Kings? That just sounds like pure crap. I have a hard enough time trying to filter out the fake history without Dan Brown inventions being interjected.  

Although this ancient history is interesting, and there are a lot of interesting stories, their effect on what is happening now is minimal. What difference would it make to these people whether they were descendants of Dan or Cecil the Sea Serpent?

Putting myself into their shoes, I imagine that I am the scion of the Rothschild vipers. Grandpa Izzy Rothschild invites me into his study on my 12th birthday and tells me the secret and very ancient story of my lineage. Four hours later, I'm passing in and out of consciousness and Grandpa is only on the 8th century.  He has taken a break to investigate the correct pronunciation of my 51st Great Grandma, a Khazar Princess who married the Duke of Moravia. My father has made some excuse to leave the room and will not be coming back any time soon. "So what, Grandpa?" I say to myself.  "How much money do we have and where do we keep it all?"

The three B's of zionist influence (bribery, blackmail and bullets) seem to have more to do with influencing current events than anything that happened 200 years ago, let alone 1,000.  And if I consider the huge conspiracy necessary to shape world events, it is understandable that this conspiracy would be impossible to hide. Therefore discovering this conspiracy is really only a matter of allowing myself to see it.

The French Connection site and DBS' audio library makes the most compelling argument to explain world events that I have ever heard. It is really very simple and it doesn't require any dodgy arguments. The zionist/jewish/hebrew/ whatever-you-want-to-call-it influence always rears its ugly head. There is always a very small and well organized cabal of super rich bankers using the 3 Bs to gain power.

The Protocols of Zion may be a forgery or a hoax, but those people are using a playbook that is remarkably similar: They loan money at interest. They take possession of collateral. They gain influence in politics. They blackmail and bribe until they control governments.  They kill anyone who won't go for the first two. They raise armies and start wars. They intermarry into powerful positions. They control all the media. They use drugs and pornography to demoralize their enemies.

And this cabal is very easy to see once I allowed myself to see it.  When we look at who is running the world today, who owns all the media? Who Controls the US government, and most of Europe's governments? Who owns all the banks? Who are, by their own admission, the majority of the top influential people in the world? And yet they make up less than 1% of the world population.  

That is not an accident or serendipity. That is the result of bankers loaning at interest for centuries. It is all very simple; only the interest is compounded.  

And this very simple answer makes so much more sense than Knights Templar or Jesuits running a secret order.  After seeing the very simple operation of how the Jews control the Political centers, the Banks and the Media, why would I look elsewhere. That would be the equivalent to someone showing me the engine of a car and watching it operate, and then afterwards I resolve to discover WHAT REALLY RUNS THE CAR.  (The engine runs the car. The engine runs the car.)

After Walt and Meirscheimer wrote their "israel Lobby" book, which showed how the zionists control the US government and started the Iraq war, many people simply dismissed that book as "antisemitic". The book is a scholarly work, and the authors bend over backward not to offend Jews, but it still gets the label because that is the way these people deal with the Truth. That book shows the ENGINE that brought our country to war, and people didn't want to see it.  The engine is too big to ignore. The cabal is too large to hide. The only way to stop people from seeing it is to lie, and distract.  

After 9/11, the US intelligence services, (which must be filled with 100% of the dumbest, most chickensh*t robot p*ssies you can think of), failed to find out who did it. Instead they all continued to talk about the 19 hijackers that the media dragged out in the 24 hours after the event.  But thousands of people with computers got on the "internets" with their little 56k modem on AOL and they shared info on the blogs. They put the real picture together by using little pieces from the MSM clippings. They found out about Odigo, and Zim and PTECH. The found about about all the mossad arrested that day, and about the israeli spy ring, and the celebrating israelis. The found out about the WTC sale to zionist jews just before 9/11.  They found out about the Clean Break and PNAC documents, and about the cabal of zionist Jews who wrote and signed them.  All of the information in the MonkeySeeMonkeyDo Treatise™ is the culmination of the work of many researchers. The obvious cabal of zionist Jews cannot be hidden because it is too large. It is not seen by the MSM because, strangely enough, the MSM is owned by the zionist Jews, which is coincidentally what the Protocols say. But there is that engine again.  And when we were protesting 9/11 in front of the israeli embassy, many Jews came by and made us out to be anti-semites. And afterwards, I walked back to my car, wondering if I would be arrested for carrying my "israel DID 9/11" sign in front of the holohoax memorial.  

And the Worldwide banking collapse, when looked at logically, is not an accident. It is not caused by some nameless clerk typing a "B" instead of an "M". It is the result of a plan. It is what happens when banks loan money at interest, inflate prices by making cheap money available, sell worthless paper on these inflated prices, and compound the problems by selling derivatives based on that worthless paper. Flooding the market with credit and then withdrawing the money supply will cause businesses to fail. It has worked for centuries. And the banking cabal has been revealed. And many authors have shown this to be an intentional plan. And the banks are run by zionist Jews.  Surprise.

Over and over we see the strings exposed that show how the puppet is controlled. We keep tracing the strings back to the puppeteer, who happens to be Jewish.  The engine is exposed. Coincidence. Anti-semite. Why do you hate Jews so much? Why do you want to gas the Jews in the tiny brick ovens and cut off their lousy hair and stuff mattresses and then bury them and then dig them up and light bonfires with the fat ones on the bottom and use their skin to make lampshades and their earwax to make car polish and Ann Frank lived in the closet for 6 years with only raisins to eat?

I contrast this obvious proof of a conspiracy with the long ago stories of VI Kings and the tribe of Dan, whose name is now so prominent: Danube, Dandruff, Dandelion, Dante's Inferno, Dancing With the Stars, Daniel Radcliffe, Danke Shoen.  Whatever truth there might be in those past associations, their relevance is comparable to those other things long past: 8 Track tapes, the winner of Super Bowl VI, President of the United States Millard Filmore...

The gas is injected into the combustion chamber; the spark ignites the gas and that explosion sends the piston downward, turning the drive shaft, which turns the wheels that move the car forward. There is no need to look elsewhere.

[uroko]

What do you think of these movies?

Mother Goddess & the Dragon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Clq-Giqv ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzxVhLcCH8w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4ZT-IOf0gM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoThe9EzcaE

I thought they were great.  

I thought "Ring of Power" was interesting and well told, but my bullsh*t detector went off several times during the screening. For example: Vikings were the Six (VI) Kings? That just sounds like pure crap. I have a hard enough time trying to filter out the fake history without Dan Brown inventions being interjected.

Agreed.   My net-friend thought I would enjoy 'Ring of Power' but I wasn't very impressed.

Putting myself into their shoes, I imagine that I am the scion of the Rothschild vipers. Grandpa Izzy Rothschild invites me into his study on my 12th birthday and tells me the secret and very ancient story of my lineage. Four hours later, I'm passing in and out of consciousness and Grandpa is only on the 8th century....

ROFL.  Then again, in this anecdote grandpa Rothschild is probably gonna sit the 12 year old scion back down when he comes back from the toilet and finish his story, and make sure the his grandson knows why he's going to rule the world and how he wound up there.  

The French Connection site...

I'm not familiar with that.  Got a link?

The zionist/jewish/hebrew/ whatever-you-want-to-call-it influence always rears its ugly head...

And what I'm saying is that the Vikings, Franks, Saxons, Huns and Khazars that displaced the Roman Empire were all originally Hebrew tribes, as were the Israelites.  In the case of us peons everyone marries everyone else and the cultural integrity is soon gone but in the case of the elite where the ruling class intermarry, it stays more or less intact, just like Jewish cultural integrity has stayed intact.  OK, I'll grant, even agree that the Jewish banking elite are the engine.  Would you not concede that the fuel tank, spark plugs, transmission and steering are the non-Jewish elite?  These are the people who gather in the Bohemian Grove every summer to watch a mock sacrifice at the alter of Moloch. WTF is that about?   They're connected at the hip to the Jewish elite historically not by just the connections I keep talking about, but also the Templar/Freemasonic-Jewish alliance that was behind the East India Companies that colonized the world in the first place.  Remember, the Freemasons evolved from the Templars, who aren't just a distraction IMO, they were the first international bankers, they had permission to charge usury and, along with their Hebrew ancestry (as Normans) and Gnostic beliefs, therein lies the basis for their alliance with Jewish investors and merchants.      

hey found out about Odigo, and Zim and PTECH. The found about about all the mossad arrested that day, and about the israeli spy ring, and the celebrating israelis. The found out about the WTC sale to zionist jews just before 9/11... <s>... And afterwards, I walked back to my car, wondering if I would be arrested for carrying my "israel DID 9/11" sign in front of the holohoax memorial.

But wasn't the arrest of the dancing Israelis suspicious?   They danced around in several locations, they identified themselves to police immediately as Israeli.  Looked to me like "open complicity" ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n31jTJjwgOg ), like they were trying to get arrested.  Not that Mossad wasn't involved, of course they were.  But was it an Israeli operation?  What about the Joint Chiefs?  What about the Secret Service, the CIA, NORAD?   They were involved too.   You can believe that Israel and Zionists have so much power in the back halls of US government agencies that they could pull this off themselves, in which case all this stuff I'm talking about is indeed unimportant and a distraction, or that the roots of the Israeli/Zionist element and the non-Jewish business/political elite in America are so intertwined and the two are in such cahoots that they essentially form a single ruling block.

Joe Biden: "We are all Zionists".

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The One & Only, Mr Eustance Mullins



An Video Interview with Eustace Mullins

Eustace Mullins was the first author who has exposed the true nature of the Federal Reserve Bank of the United States. He is also the last living protegee of Ezra Pound and was a good friend of the great Author Anthony Sutton. Even thought he would have deserved a nobel prize in literature for his writings, he is unfortunately mostly unknown to the public, because his books concern the hottest topics you can write about.


http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=940661526373589672#


Disclaimer: I respect Mr Mullins very much, but I'm in favour of Fiat Money because the Global Banking Houses are doing a tremendous effort on putting a Difamation "spell" stygma label at this very same concept. Real Fiat Money is based on a land's enormous treasures and the work of humans/human technology living in that land. So, the concept have been hijacked and is living among the emancipation community like is was a "bad thing". Money is not the issue, the control of it is. Please see this video interview in its entirety. /tab


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I agree.  My favorite economist is Ellen Brown -  toward the end of this talk she discusses the Bank of North Dakota, the country's only state-owned bank, which has made that state immune to many of the financial problems of the other states.  
http://vodpod.com/watch/2156169-ellen-b ... e-reversed

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

The three B's of zionist influence (bribery, blackmail and bullets) seem to have more to do with influencing current events than anything that happened 200 years ago, let alone 1,000. And if I consider the huge conspiracy necessary to shape world events, it is understandable that this conspiracy would be impossible to hide. Therefore discovering this conspiracy is really only a matter of allowing myself to see it.

The French Connection site and DBS' audio library makes the most compelling argument to explain world events that I have ever heard. It is really very simple and it doesn't require any dodgy arguments. The zionist/jewish/hebrew/ whatever-you-want-to-call-it influence always rears its ugly head. There is always a very small and well organized cabal of super rich bankers using the 3 Bs to gain power.

The Protocols of Zion may be a forgery or a hoax, but those people are using a playbook that is remarkably similar: They loan money at interest. They take possession of collateral. They gain influence in politics. They blackmail and bribe until they control governments. They kill anyone who won't go for the first two. They raise armies and start wars. They intermarry into powerful positions. They control all the media. They use drugs and pornography to demoralize their enemies.

Truly spoken and important....

hey found out about Odigo, and Zim and PTECH. The found about about all the mossad arrested that day, and about the israeli spy ring, and the celebrating israelis. The found out about the WTC sale to zionist jews just before 9/11... <s>... And afterwards, I walked back to my car, wondering if I would be arrested for carrying my "israel DID 9/11" sign in front of the holohoax memorial.

But wasn't the arrest of the dancing Israelis suspicious?   They danced around in several locations, they identified themselves to police immediately as Israeli.  Looked to me like "open complicity" ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n31jTJjwgOg ), like they were trying to get arrested.  Not that Mossad wasn't involved, of course they were.  But was it an Israeli operation?  What about the Joint Chiefs?  What about the Secret Service, the CIA, NORAD?   They were involved too.   You can believe that Israel and Zionists have so much power in the back halls of US government agencies that they could pull this off themselves, in which case all this stuff I'm talking about is indeed unimportant and a distraction, or that the roots of the Israeli/Zionist element and the non-Jewish business/political elite in America are so intertwined and the two are in such cahoots that they essentially form a single ruling block.

Joe Biden: "We are all Zionists".

I agree with all points Christopher said above.  9/11 was an Jewish crime - that had nothing to do with ancient bloodlines which at the end of the day are unimportant if they can even be reasonably proven beyond a doubt.

uroko you've looked at MSMD's "Israel Did 9/11" research haven't you?  It wasn't Snake-Oil bloodlines that pulled this off.
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And you've read this by Andrew Carrington Hitchcock?

In 740 A.D. in a land locked between the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea, known as Khazaria, a land which today is predominantly occupied by Georgia, but also reaches into Russia, Poland, Lithuania, Hungary, and Romania, the modern Jewish race is born. A modern Jewish race that incidentally is not Jewish.

How can this be, you ask? Well at that time, the Khazarian people felt a vulnerable people as they had Muslims one side of them and Christians the other side of them, and thus constantly feared attack from either side. Furthermore, the Khazarian people were of neither faith and instead practiced idol worship, which made them ripe for invasion by a people who wished to convert them to an established faith.

The Khazarian King, King Bulan, decided in order to protect themselves against attack, the Khazarian people must convert to one of these faiths, but which one? If they converted to the Muslim faith they would risk attack by the Christians and if they converted to the Christian faith they would risk attack by the Muslims.

He had an idea. There was another race that he was aware were able to deal with both the Muslims and the Christians either side of him, predominantly in matters of trade. A race which also dealt with Khazarians in the same manner. That race was the Jews. King Bulan decided if he instructed his people to convert to Judaism he could keep both the Muslims and the Christians happy, as they were both already willing to trade with the Jews, so this is what he did.

King Bulan was right. He would live to see his country unconquered, his people convert to Judaism enthusiastically and adopt the principles of the most holy Jewish book, the Talmud. There are many things the king would not live to see, however.

He would not live to see his Asiatic race of converts to Judaism, one day represent 90% of all the Jews on the planet, and call themselves Ashkenazi Jews, when in fact they were not Jews, but simply an Asiatic race of people who converted to the Jewish religion, whilst still continuing to speak the Khazarian language of Yiddish, totally different to the language of Hebrew.

He would not live to see his people turn to the descendants of a man, far more powerful than him, who would be born just over 1,000 years later in Germany, a man named Bauer, who would spawn the Rothschild dynasty.

He would not live to see this dynasty usurp the wealth of the world through deception and intrigue, which they would finance through the vast riches they accumulate as they usurp the wealth of the world by gaining control of the world's money supply.

He would not live to see his people demand a homeland for themselves in Palestine as their birthright, and ensure every Prime Minister there from its inception in 1948 is an Ashkenazi Jew, even though the true homeland of the Ashkenazi Jews, Khazaria, is his kingdom, some 800 miles away.

And he would not live to see his people fulfil bible prophecy, as the, "Synagogue of Satan."

http://www.iamthewitness.com/books/Andr ... 0-1818.htm

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Are you here to help in the fight?  For you know, your material could easily be used by an "AJ" type character to try and derail research into their (Jews) crimes...

Whaler nails it here:
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[uroko]

Quoted from Andrew Carrington Hitchcock ...In 740 A.D. in a land locked between the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea, known as Khazaria, a land which today is predominantly occupied by Georgia, but also reaches into Russia, Poland, Lithuania, Hungary, and Romania, the modern Jewish race is born. A modern Jewish race that incidentally is not Jewish...

This is EXACTLY what I'm getting at !!!   Are my communication skills that bad???  Look at Georgia's flag - the flag of Jerusalem, the Cross of St. George, the Templar banner (identical).   Georgia is the most Zionistic US/Britain/Israel-allied country on the planet.  The flag was re-introduced by the Bagratid clan following the fall of the Soviet Union, a family which had ruled that country for most of the past thousand years and who are blood related to the ancient Byzantine Emperors and the Hebrew pagans of the northern Levant.  Ukraine is just about as Zionistic and pro-west, also the stomping grounds of these people, these families, and was once part of this Khazarian Empire.  The coat of arms of Vlad - practically the Israeli Flag - because Vlad was Pagan and later Christian he and his descendents can't be part of the puzzle?   The ancestors of the Warburg family - because they were Christian ruling aristocracy they aren't relevant?  

Personally, with Joe Biden saying stuff like "we are all Zionists", with the non-Jewish elite in the US and Britain holding hands with Jewish bankers all the way to throwing the Palestinians out of Palestine and wrecking the economies of the world, I think the connections are relevant.

My POV isn't that elite Jewish bankers aren't evil and in control - it's that they and the Christian elite are ethnic cousins and have been holding hands for a millennium.  It took me many years to figure this out.  And anyone who thinks history isn't relevant is fooling themselves, IMO.  

CSR, you asked me if I just post here in this thread or if I had looked around the site and read some of the other information available here.  I have looked around, I did so when I first arrived.   I found nothing any different from the things I've been reading for years, and it didn't interest me.   This particular thread is about this particular argument, which interests me.   Let me put it very simply, there is a view that the Rothschilds are in control and sit at the head of the table and everyone else, many of them gentile, sit around the table awaiting orders.   The Rothschilds say, OK, we're going to have a War on Terror - we're going to crash planes into the WTC, blame it on Muslims, and the Mossad will be in charge.  Then Mossad calls Cheney and says, "We need from you the contact numbers of all the people we'll need to pull this off - DoD, DoS, Secret Security, NORAD, Joint Chiefs... Need to know basis."   Cheney and everyone else is on board, because the Jews are in charge and what they say goes.

OR, at the end of the day the Jewish banking elite take off their Jew hats and the Democrats and Republicans take off their Democrat and Republican hats and they all sit at the table together and laugh and smoke cigars.   And Baron Rothschild, probably seated at the head of the table says, I think we should have a War on Terror - what do you all think?   And 9/11 is thought up and everyone is on board because they are all on the same train and it serves the larger goals of the elite.  

And every year they all get together at the Bilderberg summit to pick the next US president or talk about how to get rid of Ron Paul and every summer they all get together at Bohemian Grove to blow off steam and screw medically screened prostitutes and watch a mock human sacrifice - except none of the Rothschilds or Warburgs are there, because they prefer to remain invisible.

And for the record, I don't buy into most of the Tribe of Dan stuff, many of those place-names may have been named for a "Dan" tribe, but there were several.   The reason I mentioned it (in that post to "Quest") is that the maker of 'Ring of Power' attributes Viking predominance to Tribe of Dan origins - my counter is that the Vikings were a conquering people just like the Jewish "parasites" that Eustace Mullins talks about and were ethnically related to them, but that the "Dan" term is more deeply rooted and doesn't necessarily point to the Tribe of Dan (almost definitely not in the case of British place names).

But hey, call me a shill. Go about your business.   Ignore these connections.   Blame it all on Jews only.  The elite will counter with "anti-semite!!!!"  and you'll be sidelined and marginalized.   - And nothing will change.

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

uroko,

I think you need more information.

Have you ever listened to Benjamin Freedman's speeches at the Willard Hotel?  It can show you "who" is and has been in control in World Affairs in the 20th and 21st centuries... mostly by using the 3 B's described above.  

You are too ready to look at the color of the "cloth" on the "Stage Puppets" in history, and not at the J-Tribe "Hands" moving the strings above... Today, America is the Golem with the Knesset's Rabbis conjuring it to do all kinds of murderous crimes... so don't leave out the core truths that you hear below from recordings 1-14.  Listen to all of them and then come back here and re-examine the arguments once again... --The CSR  

http://iamthewitness.com/archive.php?di ... el.1961%2F


Another good read as well -- remember they have already cried "anti-semite" to the discovery of their plans for the 20th century:

When the Protocols appeared in English the minor point, who was the author of this particular document, was given a false semblance of major importance by the enraged Jewish attack on the document itself. The asseveration of Jewish leadership of the revolutionary conspiracy was not new at all; the reader has seen that Disraeli, Bakunin and many others earlier affirmed it. In this case the allegation about a specific meeting of Jewish leaders of the conspiracy was unsupported and could have been ignored (in 1913 a somewhat similar publication accused the Jesuits of instigating a world-conspiracy resembling that depicted alike in the Protocols and in Weishaupt's papers; the Jesuits quietly remarked that this was false and the matter was forgotten).

The response of official Jewry in 1920 and afterwards was different. It was aimed, with fury, at the entire substance of the Protocols; it did not stop at denying a Jewish plot, but denied that there was any plot, which was demonstrably untrue. The existence of the conspiracy had been recognized and affirmed by a long chain of high authorities, from Edmund Burke, George Washington and Alexander Hamilton to Disraeli, Bakunin and the many others mentioned in an earlier chapter. Moreover, when the Protocols appeared in English conclusive proof had been given by the event in Russia. Thus the nature of the Jewish attack could only strengthen public doubts; it protested much too much.

This attack was the repetition of the one which silenced those earlier leaders of the public demand for investigation and remedy, Robison, Barruel and Morse, but on this occasion it was a Jewish attack. Those three men made no imputation of Jewish leadership, and they were defamed solely because they drew public attention to the continuing nature of the conspiracy and to the fact that the French revolution was clearly but its first "eruption". The attack on the Protocols in the 1920's proved above all else the truth of their contention; it showed that the standing organization for suppressing public discussion of the conspiracy had been perfected in the intervening 120 years. Probably so much money and energy were never before in history expended on the effort to suppress a single document.

http://www.radicalpress.com/?p=670

[uroko]

uroko,

I think you need more information.

Have you ever listened to Benjamin Freedman's speeches at the Willard Hotel?

Yes.

Did you know that Anglo-Saxon is a misnomer?  That it really should be Anglo-Saxon-Jute?

[Christopher Marlowe]

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I agree.  My favorite economist is Ellen Brown -

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Me too. She's way ahead of the curve on this issue.

I'm not familiar with that. Got a link?

http://iamthewitness.com/
That site is run by Darryl Bradford Smith, whom we call DBS. It is an awesome site. On the near left you have audios that are made every week or so. DBS talks to Ognir, an Irish pagan who runs this site, and Mohamed Rafiq, MR, who is an economist. They give expert commentaries on the current global economic system. DBS also interviews experts like Ellen Brown.
 On the right hand side, DBS posts current news.
In the middle you can find links to audios and books that give a background to criminal zionism. You sound like a history buff so I think you will enjoy this resource.  A lot of people suggest that newcomers start with Benjamin Freedman, who was a successful Jewish businessman who owned a soap company.  He became a Christian and, much like Brother Kapner, decided to tell the truth about criminal zionists.  He was a witness to the zionist influence on the Versailles Treaty, and he covers a lot of ground in his hour-long talk. (There are actually two speeches, one from 1961 and one from 1974, but only the 1961 audio is available. I have a Mac and I copy text into my text edit function and then use the "Speech" function in "Edit". I can get a lot more done that way by listening to books while doing my workout or playing piano. )
Another great audio source on that site is the collection of speeches by Father Coughlin. He was a very successful radio personality who told the truth about what was going on in Europe in the years leading up to WWII.  He and Charles Lindbergh bear witness to the fact that the US was dragged into WWII to protect criminal Jewish Bankers and Jewish sponsored communism in the Soviet Union.  
That site is a goldmine. DBS encourages people to download that site onto their own hard-drive. He runs the whole thing on his own dime and doesn't charge for anything. He occasionally will ask for people to donate on the show, but he doesn't have commercials and he's not making any money.  He doesn't always get it right, but he's right more often than not. DBS and MR were talking about the economic crisis long before the MSM.

Definitely check IAmTheWitness.  I think IATW will help you to get a clearer view of the "Big Picture", and this is what your video is attempting to show. I think you've got skills, and that if you were armed with the real story you could make something GREAT.

Would you not concede that the fuel tank, spark plugs, transmission and steering are the non-Jewish elite?

Pointing out the involvement of Jews/zionists is not merely an intellectual exercise. The goals of the criminal zionists are the promotion of the welfare of their crime gang: Power/money/satisfaction/All your base are belong to us. The occasional non-Jew is a mid-level manager or a distraction.  Or a crypto-Jew. Look at John Kerry. Good old Irish John Kerry. From country Kerry? Corned Beef and Cabbage? Guinness? WRONG.

Kerry's Grandfather was Fritz Kohn, a Jew who was born in Moravia  and then moved to Vienna. He and his brother Otto supposedly converted to Roman Catholicism and decided to shed the Jewish-sounding name of Kohn. He chose a new name by dropping a pencil on a map, which landed on Ireland's County Kerry.

Websites will tell this story and never once question WHY it is necessary to change your name when you convert to Catholicism. The Church doesn't ask you to do that. The only reason to change your name to "Kerry" is to fool people into thinking that you are Irish.

I guess he also changed his name from Fritz to Fred.  Now this supposed convert to Catholicism just happened to marry Ida Loewe, a Jewish musician from Budapest.

Ida was a descendant of Sinai Loew, a brother of Rabbi Judah Loew, the famous Kabbalist, philosopher and Talmudist known as the "Maharal of Prague".  

In 1905, Kerry, from county Kohn, along with his wife and son Erich immigrated to America. After entering through Ellis Island, the family first lived in Chicago and then settled in Boston. Fred and Ida had two more children in America, Mildred (1910) and Richard (1915).

In 1921, Fred Kerry, at age 48, entered a Boston hotel and shot himself in the head. Some say the suicide was due to financial stress or depression.

Some say it was a Concord Hotel and that he was trying to light a cigarette in his mouth.

Richard Kerry (Father)

Richard was six years old when his father committed suicide. It has been said that he dealt with the tragedy by ignoring it. Richard attended Phillips Academy, Yale University and Harvard Law School. After serving in the U.S. Army Air Corps, Kerry worked in the U.S. Department of State and later the Foreign Service.

He married Rosemary Forbes, the beneficiary of the Forbes family trusts. The Forbes family amassed a huge fortune in China trade.

Richard and Rosemary had four children: Margery (1941), John (1943), Diana (1947) and Cameron (1950).

These are the people who gather in the Bohemian Grove every summer to watch a mock sacrifice at the alter of Moloch. WTF is that about?

Yeah, I used to think the same thing. But now I believe there is too much made of that. There is a guy on this site named "Scorpio" who worked at the Grove party and says the whole thing is just a bunch of business guys who are camping. Alex Jones made it look super secret when it is not, and he made a video about "breaking in" to the Grove, when anyone can get a temporary job working at the Grove.  

But wasn't the arrest of the dancing Israelis suspicious? They danced around in several locations, they identified themselves to police immediately as Israeli. Looked to me like "open complicity"..., like they were trying to get arrested. Not that Mossad wasn't involved, of course they were. But was it an Israeli operation? What about the Joint Chiefs? What about the Secret Service, the CIA, NORAD? They were involved too.

I think it would be advisable not to "overthink" this. The mossad was caught videotaping the attacks from across the river in New Jersey.  Here's a quote from the dispatch on that day:

Dispatcher: Jersey City police.
Caller: Yes, we have a white van, 2 or 3 guys in there, they look like Palestinians and going around a building.
Caller: There's a minivan heading toward the Holland tunnel, I see the guy by Newark Airport mixing some junk and he has those sheikh uniform.
Dispatcher: He has what?
Caller: He's dressed like an Arab.

I don't think the Urban Moving Systems mossad guys were trying to get arrested, but the Arab style dress is obviously not meant to implicate israel.
As for the involvement of the CIA and Secret Service, etc..., it is important to keep in mind that israel controls our government at all levels.  A good example of this is the Ray McGovern interview where he talks about the Jewish Lobby getting rid of Charles Freedman as chair of the National Intelligence Council. That is two steps down from a cabinet appointment, and McGovern says he has never seen that kind of Total Control being exercised in Washington.

At the time of 9/11: Paul Wolfowitz was Deputy Defense Secretary; Michael Chertoff was Assistant Attorney General; Douglas Feith was Undersecretary of Defense for Policy (later he supervised the Pentagon Policy Counter-terrorism Evaluation Group - a.k.a Office of Special Plans that made the case for the Iraq war); Dov Zakheim was Pentagon comptroller; Marc Grossman was Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs, the Department's third-ranking official; Elliot Abrams was on the National Security Council; Jerome Hauer was managing director of Kroll and senior adviser to US Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS) for National Security and Emergency Management.     That's just an example the Jews in key positions on 9/11 who could have controlled the show. There are probably many more that I am not mentioning, or who are operations level and not readily uncovered by a search engine.  

In addition to this is the PTECH software which gave a backdoor into all the key government software on 9/11.  That controlled what the FAA was seeing on their screens and what the security agencies were hearing. Not to mention the israeli controlled Amdocs and Comverse Infosys that had total power over phone connections. And ICTS, the israelli controlled airport security.

In short, there was plenty of Jewish zionists who could have run 9/11 and wiped away their fingerprints without involving any goyim.  

And what I'm saying is that the Vikings, Franks, Saxons, Huns and Khazars that displaced the Roman Empire were all originally Hebrew tribes, as were the Israelites.

Perhaps. This gets at that whole "crypto Jew" idea that I mentioned earlier.  
I don't spend too much time on this because it is too tenuous.  Also, the modern actions of criminal zionism can be seen to work against the ruling houses of Europe in many cases. One of the aims of the First World War seems to have been the elimination of the ruling Christian families of Europe.  

Templar/Freemasonic-Jewish alliance that was behind the East India Companies that colonized the world in the first place.

The East India Company looks like a good place to start. They were pretty key to the zionist influence under the guise of British Imperialism.  The Sasson run Opium trade is another place to look.

The main point I am making here is that the criminal zionist cabal theory provides a logical framework that explains world history better than any other. People on this site are used to shills like Alex Jones who consistently Veer Away from this theory. Why do they do this? I don't know. Maybe they believe that exposing the Jewish cabal will lead to another holohoax. Maybe their Jewish advertisers and MSM bosses keep them fat and happy. Maybe they are paid operatives. Who can say?

But I think you can see why many on TIU are resistant to anyone who won't talk about this cabal. Avoid the subject of the Jewish cabal makes our antenna go up. It's not that we hate Jews, but the Jewish involvement is undeniable. Not talking about the cabal is avoiding the Truth, and then the TIU starts to think the person is a liar.  Again, Alex Jones is the perfect example of this.  

I'm speaking frankly to you because I don't think you are a shill or a liar. I'm hoping you will look into IATW and discover the Truth.  I'm also hoping to see you produce something great.

[uroko]

I'm speaking frankly to you because I don't think you are a shill or a liar. I'm hoping you will look into IATW and discover the Truth.  I'm also hoping to see you produce something great.

Thanks, I really appreciate it ...  but I'm inclined to urge YOU to produce something "great".   Everyone has their own valid POV.  

I AM trying to discover the "truth".   But the best any of us can hope for is a roughly close "version".

I don't read or trust info posted at iatw anymore, because of a vicious and baseless attack on someone I know by Eric Hufschmid at a time when he and DBS were aliied (and there is some indication that DBS was involved) - and because some things posted there I have found to be inaccurate.

At the time of 9/11: Paul Wolfowitz was Deputy Defense Secretary; Michael Chertoff was Assistant Attorney General; Douglas Feith was Undersecretary of Defense for Policy (later he supervised the Pentagon Policy Counter-terrorism Evaluation Group - a.k.a Office of Special Plans that made the case for the Iraq war); Dov Zakheim was Pentagon comptroller; Marc Grossman was Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs, the Department's third-ranking official; Elliot Abrams was on the National Security Council; Jerome Hauer was managing director of Kroll and senior adviser to US Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS) for National Security and Emergency Management. That's just an example the Jews in key positions on 9/11 who could have controlled the show. There are probably many more that I am not mentioning, or who are operations level and not readily uncovered by a search engine.

Of course.  Karen Kwiatkowski describing the Israeli generals sneaking in to see Doug Feith without signing in.    Does this not make my point?   Who let them in?  How is it that Bush appointed all those Neocons in the first place???   What are Cheney and Rumsfeld doing as signatories on those PNAC documents?   Did you know that both the families of Cheney and Rumsfeld are Norman and were there at the battle of Hastings in 1066, winning a seat at the table to run the world for their descendants?  Is that irrelevant?    What other connection is there - except to say that Cheney and Rumsfeld are "crypto-Jews" without evidence?    

Christopher Marlowe, I do appreciate your conciliatory tone, I really do, and I will also say that I HAVE been influenced by the many posts here and have watched and read many things I wouldn't have known about and am constantly re-assessing my opinions  - and, I am probably more inclined to slant more toward the collective POV of this site than I was before.  

But every time people here try and "win me over", I am left with the impression that what I'm saying is falling on deaf ears.    You don't have to win me over - I am already "won over".   I'm just trying to uncover the connections between this Jewish elite and the non-Jewish elite that makes all of this malfeasance possible.

[Frustrated]

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Do you mean "malfeasance" like this? Kissinger was never on side of the Palestinians and was an "Israeli Mole" in the US government like Scoop Jackson.

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September 21, 1974 and After: Rumsfeld, Cheney Take Power in White House


Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld speaking to reporters, 1975.Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld speaking to reporters, 1975. [Source: Gaylinkcontent (.com)]President Ford asks Donald Rumsfeld to replace the outgoing Alexander Haig at the White House (see September 16-Late September, 1974). Rumsfeld has long been Haig's choice to replace him (see August 14, 1974). Ford does not want to give Rumsfeld the official title of "chief of staff," and instead wants Rumsfeld as "staff coordinator." The difference is academic. Ford wants the aggressive, bureaucratically savvy Rumsfeld to help him regain control over a White House that is, in the words of author Barry Werth, "riven with disunity, disorganization, and bad blood." Rumsfeld agrees, and names former Wyoming Congressman Dick Cheney as his deputy (who makes himself valuable by initially doing the lowest forms of bureaucratic scutwork). Rumsfeld and Cheney will eventually wield almost Nixonian power in Ford's White House, successfully blocking the "in-house liberal," Vice President Rockefeller, from exerting any real influence, and hobbling Henry Kissinger's almost-limitless influence.
Blocking of Rockefeller and Kissinger for Ideological and Political Reasons - Rumsfeld begins his in-house assault in classic fashion: trying to cause tension between Kissinger and White House officials by snitching on Kissinger to any White House official who will listen. Kissinger eventually tells Ford: "Don't listen to [Rumsfeld], Mr. President. He's running for president in 1980." Rumsfeld and Cheney do their best to open the White House to hardline defense hawks and the even more hardline neoconservatives led by Senator Henry "Scoop" Jackson (D-WA) and Jackson's aide, Richard Perle. (Though Rumsfeld and Cheney are not considered neoconservatives in a strict sense, their aims are almost identical—see June 4-5, 1974). Kissinger's efforts to win a negotiated peace between Israel and Palestine in the Middle East are held in contempt by Rumsfeld, Cheney, and the neoconservatives; using Ford's press secretary Ron Nessen as a conduit, Rumsfeld and Cheney leak information about the negotiations to the press, helping to cripple the entire peace process. Rumsfeld and Cheney have larger personal plans as well: they want to secure the White House for Rumsfeld, perhaps as early as 1976, but certainly by 1980. One of their methods of winning support is to undercut Kissinger as much as possible; they believe they can win support among the GOP's right wing by thwarting Kissinger's "realpolitik" foreign policy stratagems.
Rumsfeld as 'Wizard of Oz' - According to the chief of Ford's Economic Policy Board, William Seidman, Rumsfeld's bureaucratic machinations remind him of the Wizard of Oz: "He thought he was invisible behind the curtain as he worked the levers, but in reality everyone could see what he was doing." Rumsfeld and Cheney will make their most open grasp for power in orchestrating the "Halloween Massacre" (see November 4, 1975 and After). [Werth, 2006, pp. 336-337; Unger, 2007, pp. 49-52]

http://www.historycommons.org/timeline. ... rgate_tmln

[uroko]

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...I think it would be advisable not to "overthink" this. The mossad was caught videotaping the attacks from across the river in New Jersey....

I don't overthink this. I really recommend watching "Open Complicity".  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n31jTJjwgOg

Joshua Lederberg was one of the appointees of the team sent to NY to silence the firefighters - and a Nobel Prize winner, and the man in charge of covering up Gulf War Syndrome, and the guy who signed the invoices of sales of biological agents to Saddam Hussein in the 80's which were the foundation of Saddam's bio-warfare program, and a leading member of the CFR.  And a Jew, and a onetime president of Rockefeller U.   I've done a fair amount of research - maybe not as much as some, and maybe I haven't spent enough time reading what Daryl Bradford Smith publishes ... but I can see the bread and I can see the butter.    

I see a ruling elite which has been intermarrying and holding hands for a thousand years.  The "Jews did it" meme is tolerated, no, promoted, because it provokes anti-Jewish sentiment which can be easily countered in a racial context.  

If it was just a "Jewish" conspiracy, I could agree - but being that in total it isn't, and believing that such a stance opens would-be-patriots to attacks of anti-Semitism, I believe that holding to that view is counter-productive - not from a purely strategic standpoint, but because of that plus the fact that I don't think it's accurate.  I believe that the "Hebrew-Elite" love that people who are a potential threat to their power think so - because it is easily countered.

Co-intel.

Goldman-Sachs wasn't an important part of the FED when it was set up - just a minor player - but by innovative banking practices they were able to become very powerful - and rich - and now they are under intense scrutiny and the target of investigation.   How much you wanna bet they get thrown under the bus like that other unwanted child, the leftover of the Kuhn & Loeb - Lehman - Blackstone Group progression of mergers, Lehman Bros,?

We'll know in a year.

[uroko]

Do you mean "malfeasance" like this? Kissinger was never on side of the Palestinians and was an "Israeli Mole" in the US government like Scoop Jackson.

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September 21, 1974 and After: Rumsfeld, Cheney Take Power in White House


Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld speaking to reporters, 1975.Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld speaking to reporters, 1975. [Source: Gaylinkcontent (.com)]President Ford asks Donald Rumsfeld to replace the outgoing Alexander Haig at the White House (see September 16-Late September, 1974). Rumsfeld has long been Haig's choice to replace him (see August 14, 1974). Ford does not want to give Rumsfeld the official title of "chief of staff," and instead wants Rumsfeld as "staff coordinator." The difference is academic. Ford wants the aggressive, bureaucratically savvy Rumsfeld to help him regain control over a White House that is, in the words of author Barry Werth, "riven with disunity, disorganization, and bad blood." Rumsfeld agrees, and names former Wyoming Congressman Dick Cheney as his deputy (who makes himself valuable by initially doing the lowest forms of bureaucratic scutwork). Rumsfeld and Cheney will eventually wield almost Nixonian power in Ford's White House, successfully blocking the "in-house liberal," Vice President Rockefeller, from exerting any real influence, and hobbling Henry Kissinger's almost-limitless influence.
Blocking of Rockefeller and Kissinger for Ideological and Political Reasons - Rumsfeld begins his in-house assault in classic fashion: trying to cause tension between Kissinger and White House officials by snitching on Kissinger to any White House official who will listen. Kissinger eventually tells Ford: "Don't listen to [Rumsfeld], Mr. President. He's running for president in 1980." Rumsfeld and Cheney do their best to open the White House to hardline defense hawks and the even more hardline neoconservatives led by Senator Henry "Scoop" Jackson (D-WA) and Jackson's aide, Richard Perle. (Though Rumsfeld and Cheney are not considered neoconservatives in a strict sense, their aims are almost identical—see June 4-5, 1974). Kissinger's efforts to win a negotiated peace between Israel and Palestine in the Middle East are held in contempt by Rumsfeld, Cheney, and the neoconservatives; using Ford's press secretary Ron Nessen as a conduit, Rumsfeld and Cheney leak information about the negotiations to the press, helping to cripple the entire peace process. Rumsfeld and Cheney have larger personal plans as well: they want to secure the White House for Rumsfeld, perhaps as early as 1976, but certainly by 1980. One of their methods of winning support is to undercut Kissinger as much as possible; they believe they can win support among the GOP's right wing by thwarting Kissinger's "realpolitik" foreign policy stratagems.
Rumsfeld as 'Wizard of Oz' - According to the chief of Ford's Economic Policy Board, William Seidman, Rumsfeld's bureaucratic machinations remind him of the Wizard of Oz: "He thought he was invisible behind the curtain as he worked the levers, but in reality everyone could see what he was doing." Rumsfeld and Cheney will make their most open grasp for power in orchestrating the "Halloween Massacre" (see November 4, 1975 and After). [Werth, 2006, pp. 336-337; Unger, 2007, pp. 49-52]

http://www.historycommons.org/timeline. ... rgate_tmln

What's your point?  

That "Scoop Jackson" wasn't the mascot of the neo-cons reinvented in England, which they were?   Or that the Kissinger/Rockefeller nexus wasn't the enemy of the Neocon nexus from day one?   Or that Brzezinski wasm't even more the arch-nemesis of the neo-cons?  That the elite don't fight amongst themselves and from time to time don't show up on the Senate floor to try and pull the rug out from what the other factions are trying to do?

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... cleId=4921

You should look at all the business connections between Kissinger & Associates and other companies connected to the Defense Department.  Very revealing.   Both in support of YOUR POV and MY POV.  (Which aren't so different.)

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Here's a question for you uroko....

Who in the US government currently and in the past have been Israeli Agents?

Your keen eye for names and dates could name a few of them I'm sure.

Richard Perle perhaps? Or a member of the 9th century Snake tribe from the Caucasus mountains...  

Remember who runs the (Israeli Funding) Fed (via intergenerational ripoffs),  and how it is used to control agents of influence:

4. 2. 1976 presidential campaign

Jackson raised his national profile by speaking out on Soviet-U.S. relations and Middle East policy regularly, and was considered a front-runner for the nomination when he announced the start of his campaign in February 1975. Jackson received substantial financial support from Jewish-Americans who admired his pro-Israel views, but Jackson's support of the Vietnam War resulted in hostility from the left wing of the Democratic Party.

Note that the Saudi-Arabs became the NeoCons best friends after the NeoCons-Jews shut down independent Energy research in the mid-1970s.  Who wags whom?  I see a thread of the Neanders pulling the strings -- mostly represented by Zio-Jews and their collective B.S. beliefs.

http://wapedia.mobi/en/Henry_M._Jackson


By the way, that reminds me.... do you think the Jews are descendants of the Neanderthals?  Apparently, the Neanderthal genetic legacy is found in precisely the areas of the Khazars-Georgia-Caspian mountain regions... perhaps the lineage is important for preserving the Neanderthal Blood line??  :wtf:


Also,
here's a good one from Matt Taibbi.  Do you smell the Jews at the Fed or is it some B.S. bloodline ala Tribe "Dan Brown"  running it?
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/;kw=[36899,157778]?RS_show_page=1

[Christopher Marlowe]

I don't overthink this. I really recommend watching "Open Complicity".

Interesting video. And it is ALSO a great example of overthinking it.
The video takes all the smoking gun evidence of complicity and then asks why they exposed themselves. That is an interesting angle, but the same could be said for anyone who gets caught: "Why did he leave his fingerprints at the scene?" "Why did he let the victim's blood get on him?"
This video takes evidence that israel is involved, and then wonders why the mossad would be so stupid as to implicate themselves.  

"Who IDs suspects as Palestinian? --> People trying to frame (or at least blame Palestinians.)" "Who would possibly be more likely to attempt to frame Palestinians than Israeli intelligence?"

"But the Caller's report led to the exposure and arrest of the Mossad agents."
"They acted to incriminate their own?"
"Was this an incredibly stupid mistake?"

"It is never wise to assume that any intelligence agency is stupid."
"The whole episode was too complicated to be one big mistake."

Stupidity.
Hubris--> So sure of themselves. So much has been exposed and no justice done. There is some credence that they just didn't care.
What could be a good reason for Bush, Secret Service, Mossad, Larry Silverstein to incriminate themselves?
So the mob can trust you because you are implicated and they have the dirt on you.  

9/11 was a unifying event: From then on the Bush agenda, the Neocon agenda, the Zionist agenda, and the Globalist agenda, which before 9/11 had been similar but distinct would become one and the same.  

And by incriminating themselves, some of them also dragged larger groups into the deception with them.  
The evidence that links israel intelligence to 9/11 connects israel to 9/11 by extention, thus assuring that all people loyal to israel not dare speak out.  

Next, Ostrovsky is telling how Bnai Brith is used by mossad to cover up israeli crimes.

israeli complicity in9/11 gave the perpetrators the means to "label the 9/11 Truth Movemovent"

To this day, activists are afraid to discuss this important element of the cover-up for fear of being "labeled" anti-semitic.

Classic Overthinking.
Because any trail leading to to israel would have been covered up this way, no matter what stupid mistakes led to israel being caught.  
israel got caught in the Lavon affair.
israel got caught attacking the Liberty.
Nothing was done. People who bring it up are labelled as anti-semites. Same difference.

The video goes on to ask:
What if they hadn't proclaimed their complicity?

If these elements were removed the fact of controlled demolition that proves the official story is a lie, would still remain.

The official story would still be a lie.  
But who would that lead us to?
If there wasn't this clear evidence where such an investigation might lead, maybe enough people would have demanded answers to get to the bottom of it.

The evidence linking israel, the neocons, and the Republican party to the September 11th attacks assured that the cover-up would go as planned.

Not really.  The evidence linking israel and the neocons [notice the way these are listed as separate ideologies, when they are really the same.  The neocon agenda IS the israeli agenda.]  and the Rep Pty assured that the cover-up would go as planned?  NO. The evidence linking them to the 911 attacks are WHY WE KNOW THEY ARE LINKED TO THE 911 ATTACKS.  If there was no evidence, we wouldn't know about them causing it.  I looked at the attacks for YEARS before I finally caught on to israelli involvement.  I INITIALLY thought that anyone who blamed israel for 9/11 just hated Jews. That was because I was HYPNOTIZED, just like most people in the US. Just like most Jews. We are all TRAINED by the MSM to think that Jews never do anything wrong. That israel exists because the Jews need someplace to go when the Goyim start persecuting Jews for NO REASON, as they HAVE ALWAYS DONE OUT OF JEALOUSY. The Goyim are jealous of the Jews success. The Jews are successful because they are smarter, more talented and because God loves them more than everyone else.  Jews are the Best.  --> That last little slogan is taken word for word from a poster that was hanging in the local Jewish community center.  

"Open Complicity" OVERTHINKS 9/11 because it tries to find a logical reason for israel getting caught. The reason why israel got caught is because 9/11 was a huge crime and they were bound to get caught.  As I noted before, israel's been caught twice before doing smaller, similar false flag crimes.

The reason why they got caught can be found in the old Robert Burns poem, "To a Mouse",

But Mousie, thou are no thy-lane,
In proving foresight may be vain:
The best laid schemes o' Mice an' Men,
Gang aft agley,
An' lea'e us nought but grief an' pain,
For promis'd joy!

In Scottish that means "Those motherf*ckers are not so smart that they will never make a mistake."
They think they are the best, but a plow is going to come and uproot their homes. And then they're going to be "cowran, tim'rous beasties" with panic in their breasties.  No amount of "bickering brattle", no matter how they scurry and run, they are going to be caught.

Open Complicity tries to make it seem like there are all these different secret movements that came together on 9/11:

From then on the Bush agenda, the Neocon agenda, the Zionist agenda, and the Globalist agenda, which before 9/11 had been similar but distinct would become one and the same.

As noted the above, the neocons and zionists are the SAME THING. What is the Globalist agenda? Could that be the same as the International Banker agenda? Which is the same thing as the International Jewish agenda? Which is the same as the zionist agenda?
And what is the Bush agenda? Same. They never were different.  If you do what the zionist Jews want, then you will  get rewarded: Bribery.
If you go against them, you will be punished: Blackmail.  Bullet.  
Mystery solved.

Finally the video ends with f*ckwit Alex Jones, who does everything he can to turn people away from looking at israel's involvement in 9/11.  
Alex Jones is sad, fat clown.
Now that even his listeners are starting to get tired of how AJ avoids talking about israel doing 9/11, AJ is interviewing people who talk about it, but is trying to put the same spin on it as this Open Complicity video: israel was just one of the powers involved.  They are just part of the Freemason, Templar knight, German Death Cult, Jesuit conspiracy.  
Of course, no one caught any f*cking templar knights or Jesuits on 9/11. Of course German Death cults were involved.  Who do you think owns the media? The German Death Cults.  They are only using Jews as A FRONT for the German Death Cults.  In fact, Germany only appears to be harassed and blackmailed by israel, continually paying BILLIONS of dollars and military aid out for the Crimes of killing 60 TRILLION Jews in the Holocaust.  In reality, they are only APPEARING to pay out Billions.  In reality, the German Death Cults are actually loaning the money to themselves, using the israeli banks to avoid taxes.
 
Finally the Video shows a guy confronting  Hamilton of the 9/11 commission with the words in the 9/11 Report which state that that support for israel created the animus in Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.
We know KSM had Nothing to do with 9/11. So do the video makers. So what is his relevance to anything?
The 9/11 commission report was written by Phillip Zellicow. A zionist Jew. You see if the israelis had not been so clever in getting caught on 9/11, the 9/11 commission report would have been written by a Templar Knight. It was necessary for the Jews to get caught in order to gain the power to cover up their crime.
Overthinking.  

I don't read or trust info posted at iatw anymore, because of a vicious and baseless attack on someone I know by Eric Hufschmid at a time when he and DBS were aliied (and there is some indication that DBS was involved) - and because some things posted there I have found to be inaccurate.

As you know, DBS and EH have parted ways. I don't want to spend a lot of time defending DBS here, but he has split from EH, and DBS has apologized for any errors that came about as a result of their work together.  That ought to account for something.  Also EH has posted numerous videos trying to defame DBS.
It should also be noted that DBS acknowledges that he occasionally posts info that is incorrect.  If the error is brought to his attention, he takes it down.  People on this site bring it to Ognir's attention and he notifies DBS and the correction is made.  For example, recently DBS jumped the gun and accused Salbucci of being a shill. It was in error, and DBS was a big enough man to apologize on the air to Salbucci, who was very gracious and did not hold it against DBS.  Done.  
Does DBS occasionally f*ck up? Sure.  Is he a little paranoid? Sure. Are a good portion of the people on TIU? Yes. Do they have cause to be paranoid? Yes. The world governments are being run by a Criminal gang of sociopaths and the media ignores it because THEY are controlled by the same gang.  Paranoid. You bet.  
But even though DBS occasionally gets it wrong, and even though he is paranoid, his site is still one of the best historical resources on the net. He's covering the story most are afraid to look at.  In depth.

Of course. Karen Kwiatkowski describing the Israeli generals sneaking in to see Doug Feith without signing in. Does this not make my point? Who let them in?

Jews. In the Pentagon. Feith. A zionist Jew.

How is it that Bush appointed all those Neocons in the first place??? What are Cheney and Rumsfeld doing as signatories on those PNAC documents?

Because the Bush admin, like the Clinton admin, and the Obama admin are controlled by Jews. Zionist Jews. That is why all the US leaders go to AIPAC to swear their allegiance to israel before they run for office.  
Of course, they also secretly swear their allegiance to the Templar Knights, but that is very secret. And also the Freemasons.  But video is not allowed of that. Ditto with the German Death Cults.  

Did you know that both the families of Cheney and Rumsfeld are Norman and were there at the battle of Hastings in 1066, winning a seat at the table to run the world for their descendants? Is that irrelevant?

Yes.

What other connection is there - except to say that Cheney and Rumsfeld are "crypto-Jews" without evidence?

Cheney's company Haliburton made a LOT of MONEY from the Iraq war through no-bid contracts. Cheney is worth billions
Rumsfeld has ties to Monsanto and to Gilead, which makes Tamiflu. Both of these companies have profited greatly from government decisions. Tamiflu got a fat contract during the swine flu scare. Monsanto is historically Jewish owned.  
What is the connection? Cheney and Rumsfeld are doing what the zionist Jews want and they are making gazzillions of dollars. Bribery. The first B.  

I am probably more inclined to slant more toward the collective POV of this site than I was before.

But every time people here try and "win me over", I am left with the impression that what I'm saying is falling on deaf ears. You don't have to win me over -You don't have to win me over - I am already "won over". I'm just trying to uncover the connections between this Jewish elite and the non-Jewish elite that makes all of this malfeasance possible.

[Frustrated]

I'm sorry if I have made you feel frustrated. I wouldn't bother if I didn't think it was worth my time. If I thought I could win over AJ, I would. He has a lot of broadcasting experience and he would be useful if he didn't run away from the truth.
I'm glad to hear you say this because it shows that you are honest. That's key.
Uncovering

the connections between this Jewish elite and the non-Jewish elite that makes all of this malfeasance possible

may or may not be a waste of time. I don't think there is any secret order beyond criminal zionism. People who are not Jews, but do work for them are either getting money or are avoiding exposure as homosexuals or pederasts or monkey-urine-drinkers.  (It was just one time, during college.  I was drunk, and the monkey urine smelled so good.)

But hey, call me a shill. Go about your business. Ignore these connections. Blame it all on Jews only. The elite will counter with "anti-semite!!!!" and you'll be sidelined and marginalized. - And nothing will change.

Once again, I appreciate your candor.
I believe what you are saying here is the CRUX of the matter.  Ironically, the crux that we bear is fighting criminal zionism with the fear of being labeled anti-semite.  
Uroko, dude, once you've come to realize this you are almost home.
It might interest you to read MonkeySeeMonkeyDo's goodbye letter to TIU. He had written this great piece showing israel's involvement in 9/11. Then MSMD started worrying that he was getting filled with hate for Jews.  He didn't want to become an anti-semite so he was going to quit and do something else.  Sound familiar?
MSMD is not an anti-semite. He's just attracted to the Truth. For some strange reason the Truth is like a beautiful woman and he is drawn towards it.
Then when he says the Truth, people come down on him and call him an anti-semite.  And MSMD is not superman.  It hurt his feelings.  So he wanted to quit because that made him feel bad about himself.  But he thought about it for a little while and now he's back.

Another example.  I went to a mossad-did-911 rally at the israeli embassy a month or so ago.  This guy there was an ex GI, and he was holding up a sign about criminal zionism.  I said "hi" to the GI, and for the next 30 minutes, he told me over and over how much he loved the Jewish people, and how he is not an anti-semite.  Talk about guilt.  No one was accusing him but his own conscience.  You see, he knows israel did 9/11, but he has been hypnotized all his life to think that Jews are all good guys and the Goyim will occasionally holocaust 17 TRILLION of them for no reason.  So the GI is torn up with guilt about accusing the people who attacked this nation of attacking this nation.  Sound familiar?

I couldn't see the israeli involvement for years. Same thing.  Hypnotized.  Now I'm awake.  Admitting I had a problem was the first step.  

If it was just a "Jewish" conspiracy, I could agree - but being that in total it isn't, and believing that such a stance opens would-be-patriots to attacks of anti-Semitism, I believe that holding to that view is counter-productive - not from a purely strategic standpoint, but because of that plus the fact that I don't think it's accurate. I believe that the "Hebrew-Elite" love that people who are a potential threat to their power think so - because it is easily countered.

Co-intel.

They Hebrew Elite use the same anti-semitic argument for everything because it is a toschlagargument.  It is the killer argument that stops all debate.  
What do you mean I stole your pension fund? You're just an anti-semite.
Rabbis selling stolen human organs?  Why do you hate the Jews?
israel did 9/11? Why don't you just start putting 157 Trillion Jews into brick ovens, you Jew hater?

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

"Open Complicity" OVERTHINKS 9/11 because it tries to find a logical reason for israel getting caught.

Funny there C.M., that was my same reaction! Is this an Israeli-Jew crime or a "failed Mossad escape plan"...  

[GordZilla]

Christopher,

 Great post!! You, my friend, have a gift. Love the Holyhoax numbers you came up with  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Good job.