DBS Rafeeg & Ognir 19th May 2010 - Doom and Gloom

[Ognir]

TFC The French Connection
www.IamTheWitness.com
Daryl Bradford Smith

Guest Rafeeg and

Ognir
TiU Radio
www.TheInfoUnderGround.com

recorded Tuesday 19th May 2010

Lots of Doom and Gloom unfortunately

http://theinfounderground.com/archives/ ... 5-2010.mp3

[joeymaclover]

So much doom and gloom in this one!
Ognir reports live from Elena Kagens apartment in Washington and reports how good of a kisser she is :sick:  :sick:  :sick:
Interviews Filipe Calderon and Jan Brewer.
Rafeeg tells everyone that lead is the best metal to own.
DBS still hasn't figured out Hebrew is read from right to left, oh vey!
Best show ever!!!!
     

[VoltaXebec]

So much doom and gloom in this one!
Ognir reports live from Elena Kagens apartment in Washington and reports how good of a kisser she is :sick:  :sick:  :sick:
Interviews Filipe Calderon and Jan Brewer.
Rafeeg tells everyone that lead is the best metal to own.
DBS still hasn't figured out Hebrew is read from right to left, oh vey!
Best show ever!!!!
     

Your funniest yet joey  :lol:

[Ognir]

The only reason I still do the show is to read Joe's comments afterwards :lol:

[abduLMaria]

it was good !   8-)

the one thing that struck me when i was listening is, here you 3 guys are talking about these monstrous financial creations that have demonstrated economies & societies.

plus, you are 3 of the most knowledgeable people on Earth of the crimes of the Talmudic Jews & of the Zionists.

well ... who invented all these financial instruments, even before the monster of credit derivatives ?

checks, stock/ equity, wire transfer - mostly or entirely created by Jewish financiers.

now, personally, i would say that some of them, like a personal checking account, or a savings account that pays 4%, come in handy, and i would say that they have real or potential value.

anyway, i just felt like yelling, "hey, come on, let's give credit where credit is due !"

to use Warren Buffett's words, these instruments of mass financial destruction that you're talking about were all invented by Jews - and when they invented them, they were not thinking about the health and welfare of the general public.

speaking of mass destruction ... well that brings us back to the general subject of criminal Judaism.


it would be great to hear Mohammed explain more of the details of the trading in the metals market.  he explained it thoroughly in the March 27 webcast with Bill Rodgers and Daryl.  so i came upon this - "Commitments of Traders" - from the CFTC website.

i would be great to hear Mohammed or someone explain this, especially since you can relate it back to criminal Zionism, which someone like Denninger won't do -

http://www.cftc.gov/files/dea/cotarchiv ... 050410.htm

"SILVER - COMMODITY EXCHANGE INC.                                                                                                                
Disaggregated Commitments of Traders - Options and Futures Combined, May 4, 2010"
"Percent of Open Interest Represented by Each Category of Trader"
/ what do these things mean ?


as a background for the discussion, i suggest this interview with Jim Rickards & Eric King.  Rickards was directly involved in the LTCM bail-out, which was a near-meltdown.  and - LTCM just happened to have a naked short position on 400 tons of gold at the time.  which relates directly to the eons old Jewish practice of currency manipulation for self interest.

in the interview, Rickards explains the new money system created by the IMF, "Special Drawing Rights".  he explains how they are created (out of thin air), how they relate to the other fiat currencies.

he even explains how Soros "broke the bank" - by using borrowed pounds (wonder who he borrowed them from ?), redeeming them for US $ until the Bank of England ran out of dollars.  he forced them to change the peg, which i remember used to be $2.40.

anyway, i thought that Rickards/ King interview provided some great background info that ties into our conversations about the financial present.

http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/ ... 3A2010.mp3


15 or 20 years ago a Jew named Soros used borrowed money to bring down a national bank.  now, Jews are using their sick machinations - like the Madoff scam within a scam - in pursuit of their own self-interest ... most of the time using leveraged positions.  I notice a trend !

i bet we could even relate this back to biblical times.  i'm not sure what scams the Jewish "money-changers" performed, besides usury ... but i have a feeling that the Jews' self-serving, society-destroying financial scams go back not only decades and centuries, but millenia.

which raises the obvious question - how do we stop it ?  how do we dis-engage from it & stop feeding the cancer of criminal Judaism ?

actually, i think talking about it publicly is a huge step in the right direction.

[abduLMaria]

just a short note ... when i wrote the post above, i had listened to most of it, except for the last 10 minutes.

anyway, i could appreciate the way you "close the loops" in the last 10 minutes, and relate the conversation of detailed financial stuff back to life in general.

[Anonymous]

If I hear Smith go on again about the destruction of Christian morality I am going to smash my mp3 player.

[Roy Hobs]

I think this latest move in Gold and Silver is proof positive that the bullion market is totally within their control.  In other words................Gold and Silver do not act independently.  Period.  As long as these thieves are in control, we shouldn't look to Gold and Silver as any kind of safety net.  No more predictions please.  However, nothing wrong with owning a bit of silver and gold for any future Barter conditions.  I don't agree with Daryl that there is a difference between Paper and Physical.  You can go to --  www.golddealer.com and purchase all the gold and silver you want.  The Premiums have even gone down in the past week.  Just caught a piece on CNBC showing Gold Atm's in Dubai.  Insert Cash -- out comes Bullion.  The Hostess at the time made comments to the effect that the Gold Market is a joke and is a bubble about to burst.  She must have had some inside information, because she was/is right.  

Until we can arrest these criminals...................everything is pretty much an illusion.  Whatever they want it to be.  That's the way I see it.

[LordLindsey]

Common humanity has a final decision to make, and that decision MUST be made as soon as is humanly possible:  Do you, "the animals", accept your fate which is absolute destruction and then enslavement as is the final goal set for you, or do you do what your survival instinct demands that you do and stop this insanity once-and-for-all?  The entire planet knows "the score" in their hearts, but collective fear and mind-control have kept the instincts for utter survival at-bay.  We all talk about what is GOING TO HAPPEN based upon the facts that these creatures have GIVEN US, and then the nightmareS become reality...there is no middle-ground at this point, if there ever was, regarding the fact that there is ABSOLUTELY NO HOPE FOR COMMON HUMANITY AT THIS POINT UNLESS AND UNTIL "THE ANIMALS" REALIZE THEIR STRENGTH AND VALUE AND MAKE THIS WORLD CHANGE TO ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE INEVITABLE FUTURE GIVEN TO THEM.

EOD

LINDSEY

NB:  I want ALL OF YOU to go-back and read and/or watch "1984" again, and pay very close attention to what "Goldstein" wrote in saying that "the proles have the power to bring themselves up from the situation created FOR them, IF THEY ONLY COULD EVER REALIZE THAT THE POWER AND HOPE FOR CHANGE LIES WIITHIN THE PROLES."  I am para-phrasing, but this is, as far as I am concerned, the single most important sentence or two in the entire book because Mr. Blair *Orwell* was begging "the people" to realize the world that WAS/IS CREATED AGAINST THEIR COMMON GOOD and then finally accept, after realization, that "THEY" had all of the power necessary to put an end to their suffering.  My heart cries in pain daily because I must have hope that  "the animals" will ultimately realize what Mr. Blair was so desperately trying to tell common humanity, but as each day shows the Protocol-driven agenda being fulfilled right in-front of "the proles" eyes literally as easily seen as the meat puppets spewing lies and biding-time, I am torn as to whether or not "the people" *goyim* will ever save themselves AND ALL OF US or will "they" either continue to lie to themselves and their loved-ones saying that "things will always get better because it simply can't get much worse," or will "they" *they goyim animals* completely accept the suicidal agenda and completely and totally ignore "their" survival instincts and accept their fate--LITERALLY KNOWING AT THE END OF ALL OF THIS WHAT IS GOING TO COME OF THEM?

NBB:  You people honestly-to-God need to think long-and-hard about this philosophical concept that I have just laid-out for all of you, because THERE IS NO MIDDLE-GROUND; not any longer because the misery is much too severe, the control is becoming much too blatant, and the lack of hubris is at a literal all-time high for there to be any question any longer who, what, why, and how all of this is taking place--the ONLY questions that none of us can answer is the WHERE and HOW these subjugators "God-men" will take all of this to the next level and make this planet a nearly literal living Hell.

[superzebra]

I think this latest move in Gold and Silver is proof positive that the bullion market is totally within their control.  In other words................Gold and Silver do not act independently.  Period.  As long as these thieves are in control, we shouldn't look to Gold and Silver as any kind of safety net.  No more predictions please.  However, nothing wrong with owning a bit of silver and gold for any future Barter conditions.  I don't agree with Daryl that there is a difference between Paper and Physical.  You can go to --  http://www.golddealer.com and purchase all the gold and silver you want.  The Premiums have even gone down in the past week.  Just caught a piece on CNBC showing Gold Atm's in Dubai.  Insert Cash -- out comes Bullion.  The Hostess at the time made comments to the effect that the Gold Market is a joke and is a bubble about to burst.  She must have had some inside information, because she was/is right.  

Until we can arrest these criminals...................everything is pretty much an illusion.  Whatever they want it to be.  That's the way I see it.

the golden rule;

who controols the gold controlls the world...they controll gold....that why the price gold always will rise up.
i think it will go to 1130 and then fly back up to 1500 at the end of the year.

what is u r opinion.

[Roy Hobs]

i think it will go to 1130 and then fly back up to 1500 at the end of the year.


I think we ought to stop making predictions.  I do not believe that Gold moves up or down in any significant fashion on it's own -- based on the supply and demand of the public.  It moves because THEY dictate the move - up or down.  I think we need to stop making predictions.  Purchase a few coins for any "Mad Max" scenario.  

I got burned.  I sold my house a few years back and had a chunk of change.  Didn't know what to do with it.  Took people's advice and laid it all on Gold and Silver.  "Back the truck up they said...gold is going to the moon."  Then I got wise and figured "Land" was the better investment.  Unfortunately.....I paid $21.00 for Silver.  Haven't sold that yet.  Sold my Gold for a slight loss at the time, but I'm fine with it all now because I have 10 acres in the boonies with an unlimited supply of water and am working on Food stores as we speak.  So..........just don't get burned.  Buy a few rolls of Silver Eagles for Barter and trade and leave the speculation to the Rothschilds.

[Helphand]

Silver:

I've been watching - in outline - the performance of silver in the way of bullion prices on internet dealing platforms, prices of ETCs and ETFs and of (predominantly silver) mining and related companies that are London listed to see what happens to these prices when the market generally wobbles and drops a few points.  

For the most part they follow suit, down.

Therefore I don't see the concept of silver being the poor relation of gold - as money - has arrived yet. It's obviously still regarded - and valued - predominanlty as an industrial metal, at least in the minds of the vast majority, which is what counts.

Exchange trades unwound/repriced:

Couldn't really follow Rafeeq on this. I thought the trades done on Exchange were done *with* the Exchange by buyer and seller i.e. buyer contracts with the Exchange and the seller contracts with the Exchange on a matched equal and opposite basis. Otherwise there'd be no bilateral relationship between the parties, so no netting and the credit exposures and use of regulatory capital would be instantly enormous. When traders (or rather their brokers) signed up to deal on Exchange they presumably signed up in the TsCs to clauses permitting actions such as those described.

Which isn't to say that the actions taken to unwind or reprice did nto have the effect of frustrating the participants' economic expectations - but that's another matter. They agreed.