live from ship to gaza....israeli military on the way..

Started by superzebra, May 30, 2010, 06:34:12 PM

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abduLMaria

Quote from: "LordLindsey"ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They tried to murder and DID kidnap Rep. Cynthia McKinney last year, and that seems to have gone-down the memory-hole.  NO MORE.  These subjugators of humanity have DECLARED WAR UPON SEVERAL NATIONS, and God damned it, the world CAN NOT suffer under the thumb of these creatures any longer.  Their threats of using "THE SAMSON OPTION" must be ignored and SOMEONE, ANYONE, as a SITTING LEADER OF A NATION, MUST COME-FORWARD AND TELL THE TRUTH THAT MOST OF THE NATIONS ACROSS THE WORLD ARE EITHER CONTROLLED-BY-TREASON OR BLACK-MAILED BY THE THREAT OF "THE SAMSON OPTION."

NO MORE EXCUSES.  GOD DAMNED THESE MONSTERS TO THE HELL THAT THEY WANT TO CREAT FOR HUMANITY UPON THIS PHYSICAL PLANET.

LINDSEY

we live in an Age of "Democratization of Technology".  also known as, technology transfer.

just as wealthy teenagers in South America can buy iPods and iPads, Muslim countries can acquire nuclear technology, and other resources with which to defend themselves.  it is as inevitable as the migration of computers around the world.

it looks like Israel may have picked a fight with Turkey.

eventually, Tel Aviv will be vaporized by one of Israel's neighbors.

Israel has the illusion that they control everything, but they don't.

We have All had Enough of IsraHell.
Planet of the SWEJ - It's a Horror Movie.

http://www.PalestineRemembered.com/!

superzebra

Istanbul rally: Israel will drown in blood


Some 10,000 protestors hold demonstrations in Turkey's main cities following deadly IDF takeover of Gaza aid flotilla, call to close down 'Zionist embassy'
Around 10,000 Turks marched in protest from the Israeli consulate in Istanbul to a main square, chanting, "Murderous Israel you will drown in the blood you shed!" following the deadly IDF raid on the Gaza aid flotilla Sunday night. The protesters earlier tried to storm the Consulate building but were blocked by police.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3896895,00.html
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LordLindsey

The God damned murderers and pirates have crossed-the-line more times than EVER should have been allowed to have happen; this time, the line crossed has affected as an act-of-war several nations, including Turkey and perhaps Ireland.  They have gone too far this time, and the time for the media campaign that we have been waiting to have happen, NOEL, is now here.

The world can no longer endure this suffering any longer.  

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

NO MORE EXCUSES.

They believe that they are literally "God" ITSELF, as a people, and anyone and anything that is "below" them are as ants or cock-roaches scurrying taking resources and "polluting" the planet with their *OUR* very existence.  This is why these Zionist criminals can go-on their controlled-media and blame THE VICTIMS!!!!!! for their murderous actions, much like what these fuckers did as an act-of-war in 1967 to the USS Liberty.

You God damned traitors-to-humanity have gone too far this time, and as Jesus Christ is my witness this will NOT go down "the memory hole" as so many of your false-flags and murderous actions have been allowed to have happen by your *FOR NOW* control of the media, money, politicians, and on and on and on.  You JIDF *JEWISH Internet Defense Force* TRAITORS spreading your God damned LIES and PROPAGANDA to poison the minds of GOOD and DECENT Christians and others who are not fully aware of your crimes and PROTOCOL-DRIVEN AGENDA will not fool ANYONE-ANYWHERE this time, you God damned monsters, YOU!!!!

 :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :x  :x  :x  :!:  :!:  :!:

LINDSEY
The Military KNOWS that Israel Did 911!!!!

http://theinfounderground.com/smf/index.php?topic=10233.0

Whaler

GORDON DUFF: ISRAEL SCAMS U.S., "GAZA CONVOY CARRYING STOLEN NUKES"

SOUTH AFRICAN NUKES, ISRAEL SECRETLY SAYS STOLEN IN 1991

CLAIMED TO BE IN TURKISH SHIPS


By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/05/31 ... len-nukes/

In a long secret "lost nuke" scenario dating back to 1991 and involving Israel, South Africa, Britain, Oman and the U.S., Israel claims "self defense" in attacking ships in international waters today, killing 16.  This was also the rationale for other acts to isolate Palestinians including walling off hundreds of thousands in a virtual prison in Gaza, walls built and designed by the US Army Corps of Engineers, walls American should have on its own southern border.

The story is a long scenario of plots involving the murder of British weapons specialist David Kelly and a number of legal inquiries and maneuvers in Britain to cover the tracks of what has gone on.  The "Bent Arrow" nuclear blunder at Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana was meant to provide cover for Israel by illegally shipping 6 cruise missile mounted nukes to Diego Garcia while reporting them for "demat" disassembly.  The moment the nukes loaded on a B-52, still attached to cruise missiles, America had gone "rogue" for Israel.

The claim that "lost nukes" are with the humanitarian flotilla is part of a Mossad deception started years ago.  Part of the story was broken by the Guardian when they released documents showing cooperation between South Africa and Israel over nuclear weapons.  By 1975, Israel had already built as many as 50 plutonium bombs at its Dimona reactor opened in 1962.  Mordechai Vanunu, a scientist there, reported this and was kidnapped and convicted of treason in Israel.  You are convicted of treason for spreading "rumors."

Few know this, but officially, South Africa built 6 nuclear weapons with the illegal aid of Israel who admits to supplying "technical support" but in fact was involved with South Africa to develop, not only nuclear weapons but chemical and biological agents as well.  Some of the "germ warfare" agents were used in Angola by SADF troops.  Other weapons developed there, such as BZ "hallucogenic gas" were sold to the US and used against the Iraqi Republican Guard.  This was reported by the South African Truth Commission after presentation of documents and scientific testimony backing the claim.

THE BIG SECRET, 10 BOMBS BUILT, NOT 6

South Africa, really Israel, built 10 nukes, not  6.  One was tested in the Indian Ocean by Israel and South Africa in September 1979 and spotted by US "Vela" satellites and acoustic sensors.  The Carter administration covered this up as it was thought to be a danger to the Camp David peace accords that won President Carter a Nobel Peace Prize.

This left 9 remaining nukes.  Fearing control of nuclear weapons by "Africans," the "whites only" South African government agreed to ship the 9 weapons to the US for disposal.  Records of the UN inspection team exist and the accords.  President Obama, this month, thanked the South African government for this act officially.  However, 3 of the nukes were sidetracked  by Britain, as we have been informed by high level sources.

Britain agreed to help ship the bombs out and a commission led by David Cameron, current British Prime Minister travelled to South Africa to make arrangments.  However, as this was during the first gulf war, a plot was hatched, we are informed by high level members of a British political party to buy 3 of the weapons and bleed off money to fund the 1992 elections out of a massive "kickback."  This would seem extremely "conspiratorial" had it not left a considerable trail, not only paper but in wrecked careers, coverup, inquiries, trials and endless deception from that day forward.

BUYING THE BOMBS AND LOSING THEM DOWN A RABBIT HOLE

We have been informed that former Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher wrote a UOR, Urgent Operational Request, a "no bid" contract to pay 55 million pounds sterling to transport 3 Israeli/South African nuclear weapons to British facilities in Oman to use as a "guarantee" that Saddam Hussein would not use chemical or biological weapons when attacked.  The scheme, in itself, was senseless from the start as American forces in the gulf had significant "special weapons" capabilities in depth as did British submarines on station.  The real reason for the move was to generate the contract, we are told, which paid nearly $30,000,000 into the campaign coffers of the man who would be the next British prime minister.

The problem was, the company contracted for this, a seemingly reputable arms supplier, had a "shadowy" relationship trading weapons less officially.  Relationships within the company tied directly with the groups the U.S. had used to manage the illicit weapons trade during the Iran Contra scandal that used Israel to move weapons into Iran.  3 nuclear weapons, in 20 foot shipping containers heading for Oman fell into the hands of 2 very well known arms merchants, one from Britain and one from the Middle East, both tied directly to Israel.  The weapons disappeared and, as we are told, when they were later scheduled to be sent to the US to join the 6 nukes already decommissioned, only concrete blocks were in their place.

Britain raided the offices of the company involved, seizing their records and froze the funds of those involved as did the US and the European Union, but it didn't stop there.

THE BRITISH END

When Gordon Brown started the Iraq inquiry, the story of the missing nukes, well known in certain circles in Britain, started to come to the surface.  MP Campbell began asking questions immediately when documents indicating "existing nukes" came to the surface related to Saddam after Gulf War I.  Britain had planned for a contingency tied to nuclear attacks on their bases in Cyprus, attacks based on the possibility Saddam was holding 3 "missing Israeli/South African" nukes that Britain had "misplaced in transit" years before.

The arms traders tied to the missing nukes and Israel were found to have pumped millions into the British electoral process through intermediaries, more millions, different party, years later.

Questions were asked regarding the mysterious law, The Nuclear Weapons Act, which would allow indefinate detention of any British citizen found tied to a "nuclear explostion."  More mysterious were covert attempts to modify that law with statutory limitations that would protect one British prime minister from potential prosecution.  This modification was blocked by MI 5 chief, Dame Eliza Manningham-Buller who resigned rather than see nuclear criminals protected.  We are told that a British prime minister "left politics" over "complications" from failing to act on an offical briefing received on this issue in 1997.

WHY, HOW AND THE FALLOUT


Israel snatched the 3 nukes, 18kt uranium 235 weapons in order to manipulate the United States into supporting, what has become, decades of disasterous policies and to provide a rationale for making the U.S. "look the other way" when Israel is involved in unsavory acts including "false flag" operations.  Everything is justified under the guise of deception operations to justify the search and recovery efforts for these imaginary "lost" nuclear weapons.

This was the secret rationale for the invasion of Iraq.  Israel then reported that the weapons were moved to Syria by 3 ambulances and were stored in a hospital in Lebanon to hide their "nuclear partical signatures."  America didn't buy it, our new sensors know X-Ray equipment from nukes.  Now Netanyahu is telling the US that they are in Turkey or Iran, or both, perhaps on ships heading to Gaza.  Thus, any attack, no matter how many international laws are violated and what is brought before the UN Security Council, will be covered by a US veto.  We are even being asked to bomb nuclear facilities inside Iran to get at possible hiding places for these weapons, which, as they were built long ago, built by Israel itself with South African help, could be stored anywhere, least of all in a nuclear facility.

"KEEP SAYING 'ONLY 6 NUKES' AND MAYBE PEOPLE WILL BELIEVE IT"

Sometimes a story can be told just too many times with too much emphasis on one issue, "6 nukes."  The U.S. destroyed 6 nukes received from South Africa.  Britain believes it has adequately covered up its massive blunder and the corruption tied to it.  We certainly can't ask David Kelly, one of those tasked with overseeing this project but who could no longer maintain his silence.

We must believe that covert weapons programs in South Africa ended, even though, in 2004, Johann Meyer was arrested for attempting to ship centrifuges from South Africa to Libya that still contained plutonium residue.

We can ignore the crimes related to nuclear proliferation and continue to point to Pakistan and Dr. Khan, when in fact, his pardon by President Musharraf is now believed tied to his cooperation with CIA efforts to locate "lost" nukes that may no longer work by offering new nuclear triggering devices.  Efforts were made to sabatoge this covert effort in much the same way Valerie Plame's efforts were ended.  "Scooter" Libby (Liebowitz) was pardoned after AIPAC, the Israeli government and prominent Jews including Alan Dershowitz, Rom Kampeas of the Jewish Telegraphic Agency, Nathan Sharansky and Arye Genger, liason between Israeli presidential liason, interceded.

The numbers don't really matter, 10 nukes, 9 nukes, 6 nukes or even 3 missing nukes.  It could actually be only 2 missing nukes anyway as one of the weapons exploded by North Korea had the signature of the Israeli/South African weapons.  Does this possibly explain why a "special country" might not be willing to sign the NPT, Non-Proliferation Treaty?

Aladin70

It just remind me of the 1982 israeli massacre of Sabraa wa Chatilla refugee camp (under Sharon supervision of the IDF and some Christian Phalangists militia). Event putting the zionists on the hot seat for few days at the best weeks and then it will sink again.We might experience some other disturbance as terrorism acts in some western contries to change and shift the public and general opinion. Remember 9/11 came after the UN wanting to take strong action against israeli massacres and UN resolution violations (250); which white wash all the israeli exactions and will give them green light for the Djeenyn maasacre.
 They control the world monetarly and set up systems of dependances and blackmails on governements and nations which logically  are not willing to take any decision nor action against their zionist monetary drug provider.

Whaler

Updated – Israel Kills 16 Human Rights Activists on Route to Gaza, World Outrage Spreads


http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/05/31 ... -open-sea/

QuoteAs news Sunday reached the world that "participants in the international flotilla carrying humanitarian aid to the Gaza Strip held a memorial service at sea to commemorate the 34 Americans killed and 174 injured in Israel's 1967 attack on the U.S.S. Liberty," the Israeli navy hours later this morning attacked the six-ship convey, killing at least 16 unarmed people in international waters and injuring 30 as Americans celebrated Memorial Day weekend honoring fallen American troops and Marines.

Israeli troops reportedly killed several people as they lay asleep aboard the Turkish-registered Mavi Marmara, according to eye witensses.


F**king Savage neanderthals   :evil:

superzebra

hot..

i was watching france 24 ...the quetion that they had in mind that maybe will happen third intifida.

the 4 analyst the in the studio were fucking scums  jews...
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LordLindsey

As many of you know, once I am motivated, I will make sure that things move.  THIS WILL NOT GO AWAY, and the EXCLUSIVE interview that Cynthia gave will NOT be the last, nor will she be the only one speaking-out about this.

These monsters have bitten-off much more than they could ever chew with this, and I honestly-to-God don't think that they ever realized the outrage that is ONLY JUST BEGINNING ACROSS THE WORLD.

Fucking lack of hubris stops these creatures every time, throughout history; they go TOO FAR, "the people" wake-up JUST IN-TIME, and then they are stopped for a century or so after they scurry into a hole-in-the-wall and lay in-wait like the predators that they are for their next victim/target...

HOWEVER, they have their home-base of criminal operations NOW, and that has been common humanity's greatest threat and greatest weakness.  Whenever one of "The Chosen" commits a crime, all that he/she needs to do is scurry like a fucking cock-roach with the light shined upon it and there is never any fear of extradition--no fear WHATSOEVER of justice and all of the benefits of whatever it was that he/she stole or whose life(lives) were destroyed within the goy nation(s) from which he/she scurried away.

The world can no longer ignore this LITERAL hole-in-the-wall nation and the criminals within AND WITHOUT IT any longer; no excuse is going to work THIS TIME because the track-record speaks for itself.  They fucked-up on a scale that is only equalled with the USS Liberty, except THIS TIME these were DEFENSELESS people bringing MEDICINE, FOOD, and OTHER NECESSARY HUMANITARIAN SUPPLIES SANCTIONED BY SOVEREIGN NATIONS--this makes ALL THE DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD BY COMMITTING A LITERAL ACT-OF-WAR.

LINDSEY
The Military KNOWS that Israel Did 911!!!!

http://theinfounderground.com/smf/index.php?topic=10233.0

Tomas O'Crohan

The only thing the jew loves more than lying and thieving is murdering. The jew always goes too far because his pathology doesn't permit restraint. This lack of restraint has always resulted in the jew being poured with boiling oil. The oil pots around the world are furiously cooking right now. This is the end of the jew and it's three thousand years too late. Better late than never.

The nationalists in the occupied six counties are already out with their paint buckets:

http://ograshinnfein.blogspot.com/2010/ ... raels.html

Whaler

Cowen condemns Israeli flotilla attack

QuoteTaoiseach Brian Cowen today blamed the Israeli blockade of Gaza for a commando assault on a flotilla of aid ships which left at least 15 people dead and scores injured.

Mr Cowen accused Israel of breaking international law by banning humanitarian shipments and called for an international inquiry into the naval operation and killings.

Three Irish campaigners - Dr Fintan Lane, Fiachra O Luain and Shane Dillon - were on board the vessel Challenger 1 which had travelled from Cyprus in the first wave of the flotilla and was reportedly boarded by Israeli forces.

It is believed one of them was injured. His condition is not known.

Mr Cowen said: "The reason this has happened is there's a blockade taking place at the moment in respect of humanitarian assistance being provided to Gaza, to the people of Gaza.

"I believe that is in violation of international law. People are entitled to have humanitarian assistance."

Michael Martin, Irish Foreign Affairs Minister, summoned the Israeli Ambassador Dr Zion Evrony to a meeting in central Dublin this evening.

"The reports of up to 15 people killed and 50 injured, if confirmed, would constitute a totally unacceptable response by the Israeli military to what was a humanitarian mission attempting to deliver much needed supplies to the people of Gaza," Mr Martin said.

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EU in urgent talks on Israel action

QuoteEU ambassadors are holding emergency talks to discuss the deaths of a reported 15 people on boats off the coast of Gaza by Israeli forces.

Britain is being represented at the gathering of experts on the EU Political and Security Committee by Tim Barrow for what was described as "an exchange of views".

One official said it was impossible to predict what stance, if any, the 27-nation meeting would make.

Meanwhile, European Parliament official said there were no Euro-MPs aboard the boats heading for Gaza which were intercepted by Israeli forces.

But the leader of the centre-right European People's Party in the European Parliament, Joseph Daul, commented: "We are shocked with the Israeli military operation that resulted in the loss of so many lives and the number of persons injured. We extend our sincerest sympathies to the families of those killed and injured.

"Many questions have to be answered, such as what is the explanation for such an excessive use of force? Was there a life-threatening resistance to justify the use of live ammunition?"

Whaler

Holy Sweet Lord, Turkey has announced they will send another flotilla to Gaza—escorted by the Turkish Navy!

http://www.ianwelsh.net/holy-sweet-lord ... kish-navy/

Quoteby Ian Welsh

If they actually do this, it is the very definition of throwing down.

Wow.

Does Israel want a war with Turkey?  They can't win it, short of using nukes, and Turkey is a NATO member, if Israel attacks NATO ships, Turkey can invoke Article V (in fact, they can invoke it already, since the ships were attacked by a non NATO power on the high seas.)  If Turkey does so, of course NATO nations will refuse, but doing so will break NATO.

This is high stakes.

Update: I might add that in the case of a war between Turkey and Israel, if Turkey is serious, unless Israel uses nukes, my money is on the Turks.  They have a huge armored corp, and the nations between Israel and Turkey aren't going to say no if Turkey asks for access (because if they do, Turkey will just roll right through them.)  Also if Turkey and Israel goes to war, it's at least 50/50 the Egypt jumps in as well.

Israel is really playing with fire on this one.

Update 2: See Sean-Paul's comments on the domestic reasons of Turkey's reaction, and what the death of the Israeli/Turkish Entente means.

GordZilla

I heard it has been reported Israelis soldiers fire in retaliation, I have also heard there is a video on Youtube that shows the Israelis fire first. Has anybody seen this footage? If so we need to get the link and download it and save it before it is gone ...I've been looking but cannot find it.

CrackSmokeRepublican

The Idiot Talmudic Jew Brain understands nothing but a real threat.  Here's an update to outcomes from this Jew Caused Tragedy off of Gaza... the Israeli comment on the unprovoked attack and murders on the ship is full of typical Jew Lies...

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QuoteTurkey: Future Gaza Aid Ships Will Have Military Escorts
Massacre Further Harms Israel-Turkey Ties
by Jason Ditz, May 31, 2010
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Once Israel's closest ally in the region, the Turkish government has reacted with fury at last night's Gaza aid ship massacre, condemning it as 'inhuman state terror.'
Turkey's Navy will reportedly protect future aid ships

The attacked ship was Turkish in origin and at least two of the slain aid workers were Turkish citizens. Turkey says future aid ships will be dispatched with a military escort so as to prevent future Israeli attacks.

Turko-Israeli relations have been on the decline in recent months, including a staged photo-op by the Israeli Foreign Ministry designed to shame Turkey's ambassador. Israel also reportedly arrested a Turkish citizen weeks ago for being a member of a humanitarian group involved with the aid ship.

Israeli officials have defended the killings as "self defense," claiming the aid workers were secretly in league with al-Qaeda. A top Israeli investment house has also called for a divestment from Turkey to protest Turkey's criticism of the massacre.

http://news.antiwar.com/2010/05/31/turk ... y-escorts/
After the Revolution of 1905, the Czar had prudently prepared for further outbreaks by transferring some $400 million in cash to the New York banks, Chase, National City, Guaranty Trust, J.P.Morgan Co., and Hanover Trust. In 1914, these same banks bought the controlling number of shares in the newly organized Federal Reserve Bank of New York, paying for the stock with the Czar\'s sequestered funds. In November 1917,  Red Guards drove a truck to the Imperial Bank and removed the Romanoff gold and jewels. The gold was later shipped directly to Kuhn, Loeb Co. in New York.-- Curse of Canaan

Whaler


MonkeySeeMonkeyDo

Israelis celebrate IDF attack on Gaza Flotilla in Front of Turkish Embassy
[youtube:2zige4pe]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMzc1N1Cx3s[/youtube]2zige4pe]

thirdeyewise

How crazy, the more one looks into these people, the more hate for them becomes natural!!
One need not be a prophet to be aware of impending dangers. An accidental combination of experience and interest will often reveal events to one man under aspects which few see.

-F.A. Hayek

Whaler

Quote from: "MonkeySeeMonkeyDo"Israelis celebrate IDF attack on Gaza Flotilla in Front of Turkish Embassy
[youtube:264zqlzj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMzc1N1Cx3s[/youtube]264zqlzj]

Great find. Needs to go viral so people can see how these psychos behave.

You made a post a week or two ago saying that Jews need to be isolated and confined to Israel.  so they can't harm innocent people and can be studied like animals at a zoo. It was one of the funniest things I have read on a forum. Classic!  :lol:

I looked but I couldn't find it in your post history. I wanted to post it here because I think it fits the situation.

Whaler

Turkish NATO Warships Sent To Protect Irish Ship Rachel Corrie In Gaza Aid Convoy

[youtube:2keq30cf]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9mQ5biMsNg[/youtube]2keq30cf]

thirdeyewise

One need not be a prophet to be aware of impending dangers. An accidental combination of experience and interest will often reveal events to one man under aspects which few see.

-F.A. Hayek

GordZilla

We need to find out for sure who fired first, I heard rumours Israel fired at crew members from small boats before boarding by helicopter. Wouldn't surprise me,  but I really wish we could get to the bottom of that. It would be key and would catch many of them in a lie.


Whaler

QuoteAnyone see this yet?

yeah, i saw it on Infoschwartz. Steve Watson wrote an article on it. I would assume any "evidence" Israel shows will be manufactured.  

Any word on that assassination list? That is also a pretty big bombshell.

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Reporters Dispute Israeli Account of Raid - June 3, 2010


[youtube:31daaj0f]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cQ69oKFtVg[/youtube]31daaj0f]


Updated | 5:02 p.m. On Thursday, Al Jazeera English broadcast an interview with Jamal Elshayyal, one of the channel's journalists who was on board the Mavi Marmara on Monday when it was intercepted by Israeli commandos enforcing a naval blockade on Gaza.

In his account of the start of the raid, which left nine activists dead and has sparked calls for an independent investigation, Mr. Elshayyal insisted that the Israelis had fired live ammunition at the ship from the air before commandos landed on the boat and said that he had seen someone shot and killed by a bullet that hit the top of his head. He said, in part:

As soon as this attack started, I was on the top deck and within just a few minutes there were live shots being fired from above the ship, from above, from where the helicopters were. [...]

The first shots that were fired were either some sort of sound grenades, there was some tear gas that was fired as well as rubber-coated bullets. They were fired initially and the live bullets came roughly about five minutes after that.


Asked if the shots fired at the ship by the Israeli forces had seemed to come from ships nearby or the helicopters above, Mr. Elshayyal said:

It was evident there was definitely fire from the air, because one of the people who was killed was clearly shot from above — he was shot, the bullet targeted him at the top of his head. There was also fire coming from the sea as well. Most of the fire initially from the sea was tear gas canisters, sound grenades, but then it became live fire. After I finished filing that last report and I was going down below deck one of the passengers who was on the side of the deck holding a water hose — trying to hose off, if you will, the advancing Israeli navy — was shot in his arm by soldiers in the boats below. [...]

There is no doubt from what I saw that live ammunition was fired before any Israeli soldier was on deck. What I saw, the sequence of events that took place, there was a pool camera, so reporters took it in turns to file, so after I had done my first file, I turned around to see what was going on and there were several shots fired. In fact, one of the helicopters at the front of the ship, you could almost see the soldiers pointing their guns down through some sort of hole or compartment at the bottom side of the helicopter and firing almost indiscriminately without even looking where they were firing. And those bullets were definitely live bullets.

Mr. Elshayyal's account, of course, is only one part of the puzzle, and it will not be accepted easily by people who see his network as biased against Israel. That said, now that the accounts of activists and journalists who were detained by Israel after the raid are starting to be heard, it is clear that their stories and that of the Israeli military do not match in many ways.

On Thursday, Today's Zaman, an English-language newspaper in Turkey, reported that the president of the Turkish aid group that helped to organize the flotilla said that a photographer working for the group "was shot in the forehead by a soldier one meter away from him." Bulent Yildirimhe, the president of the aid organization Insani Yardim Vakfi (known in English as the I.H.H.), told the newspaper on Thursday after he returned from Israel: "Our Cevdet [Kiliclar], he is a press member. He has become a martyr. All he was doing was taking pictures. They smashed his skull into pieces." The newspaper added:

Kevin Ovenden of Britain, an activist on the ship that arrived in İstanbul on Thursday, also said a man who had pointed a camera at the soldiers was shot directly through the forehead with live ammunition, with the exit wound blowing away back of his skull.

In another report, the newspaper said that Israeli officials had confiscated images taken by one of its photographers in the flotilla:

A photojournalist from Today's Zaman Kursat Bayhan who was on board an international aid convoy for Gaza said he tried to hide a flash disk which included the photos from the moments of Israeli attack on the convoy under his tongue to prevent Israeli authorities from seizing it but his effort failed during a medical examination.

The report added, "Bayhan said the journalists in the ship including him tried to protect the video footage and photos they took," after the ships were seized by Israeli commandos, but "all the materials of the press members, including their passports and identity cards, were taken away."

The way these accounts diverge from that of Israel's military would seem to make an independent investigation into the events crucial. That is particularly true since, as The Lede noted on Wednesday, Israel is apparently in possession of much more video evidence than it has yet released.

In a post making the case that Israel should not conduct that inquiry, Noam Sheizaf, an Israeli journalist and blogger, pointed out that journalists in the flotilla seem to have left Israeli custody without any of the video they shot during the raid that might bolster their accounts.

Israel has confiscated some of the most important material for the investigation, namely the films, audio and photos taken by the passengers [and] journalists on board and the Mavi Marmara's security cameras. Since yesterday, Israel has been editing these films and using them for its own PR campaign. In other words, Israel has already confiscated most of the evidence, held it from the world and tampered with it. No court in the world would [trust] it to be the one examining it.


Quotehttp://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/03/reporter-disputes-israeli-account-of-raid/

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Whaler

Flotilla Massacre News Roundup

Israel -- Increasingly Paranoid and Isolated, Dominated by Fundamentalists, Armed with Over 200 Nuke
viewtopic.php?f=4&p=43767#p43767


Israeli Commando Who Shot Six Activists in Aid Convoy in Line for Medal

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11462

Never Trust a Jew: Ostrovsky & AJ are Filthy Liars
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11458

Israelis make sick insulting song about peace activists

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11464

Testimony of rogue commando who killed six civilian activists further undermines official IDF story
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11469

Flotilla debate ratchets up: Norman Finkelstein and Daniel Pollack
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11467

Helen Thomas tells Jews to go back to Germany!

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11466

AJ and Rivero on Flotilla massacre ritual murder
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11421

Whaler

Proof emerges IDF audio of radio communication with Mavi Marmara is fabricated.

http://aliabunimah.posterous.com/proof- ... mmunicatio
QuoteToday, Israel released what it claimed to be the audio of a conversation between Israeli naval vessels and the Turkish-owned ship Mavi Marmara which occurred prior to the Israeli assault that killed at least 9 passengers and injured dozens more in the early hours of 31 May in international waters in the eastern Mediterranean. This audio clip, which the Israelis titled "Radio Transmission from Mavi Marmara to Israeli Navy" appears to be fabricated.


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 The following is a transcript of the audio:
QuoteISRAELI SHIP "This is the Israeli Navy, you are approaching an area which is under a naval blockade"

MAN'S VOICE 1 "Shut up, go back to Auschwitz."

WOMAN'S VOICE "We have permission from the Gaza Port Authority to enter."

MAN'S VOICE 2 "We're helping Arabs go against the US, don't forget 9/11 guy"

On hearing the recording Adam Shapiro, co-founder of the International Solidarity Movement, identified the woman's voice as that of his wife Huwaida Arraf, chair of the Free Gaza Movement. However, Arraf was not aboard the Mavi Marmara. She was aboard one of the small passenger vessels in the six-boat flotilla, called Challenger 1. She recounted what she experienced on Russia Today, among other major media outlets (video below). It would appear that Israel has once more been caught fabricating evidence in its desperate effort to justify its violent assault on the Free Gaza Flotilla, a civilian convoy carrying humanitarian aid to the blockaded Gaza Strip.

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Whaler

Flotilla Massacre News Roundup

Hero US Marine Disarms Israeli Commandos
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11514

Ron Paul: U.S. Shouldn't Support Israel's Gaza Blockade
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Netanyahu: "Criticize us today, you'll be targeted tomorrow"
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Veteran reporter retires over Israel comments
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Israel owns the USA - Dr. Paul Craig Roberts
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WRH-Mike Rivero 6-5-2010 Go to 12:08 in
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by Rockclimber
QuoteI have to ask...will Jones now have Rivero kicked off of GCN? Go to 12:55 to capture the gist of the conversation. Rivero is completely bashing on Israel consistently and he once again said "jones has a lot more to lose than I do" and also said that Jones "is now a slave to the money that it has taken to built his TV studio and everything"..."he may have damaged himself by going down this route"

Anyway, you really have to hear the call..it starts at 12:08 if you want to here it from the start. The caller also let's Rand Paul have it and Jones for backing him. He also bashes Ostrovsky for backing off on Israel. It's obvious that Ostrovsky has been threatened or is compromised, that much is evident. The caller talks about how Alex Jewns stated that he invited these guests on (gold and ostrovosky) to give the topic balance and the caller makes the point that the mainstream media already does that and of course there is no balance. Jewns is quite a coward. Great call.

IOWs Rivero ain't putting up with his disrespect nor his pussy-ness to tell the truth. I sense something will happen as a result of this and if anyone is leaving GCN is won't be zio-Jones...

Mike Rivero 6-5-2010
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?mwyknhyyynm

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video
http://www.justin.tv/michaelrivero/b/264788597


Gates-Tourney-Glenn-Nuclear Blackmail

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by Rockclimber » Fri Jun 04, 2010 6:52 pm
QuoteThis is a topic that so few discuss and I find it to be highly credible: Nuclear Blackmail. Along with blackmail in general (compromised politicians) it seems to fit as to why so many american politicians appear to be cowardly and compromised. It truly does have to make you stop and wonder.

http://theuglytruth.podbean.com/mf/web/ ... sDuff2.mp3


Gaza blockade: Iran offers escort to next aid convoy
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Testimony of rogue commando who killed six civilian activists further undermines official IDF story
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11469

BREAKING: Ethan Bronner of NY Times confirms Israel started hostilities on flotilla!
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Police protecting Jews at protests for Flotilla killings

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Activists: Israeli boat raiders had 'assassination list'  

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Gaza blockade: Iran offers escort to next aid convoy
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Paul Joseph Watson is now Jones' go-to guy for show replacements?
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Whaler

QuoteThe Ugly Truth Podcast June 9, 2010
08Jun10

He's back!

Dr. Alan Sabrosky joins the show along with USS LIBERTY survivor Phil Tourney to discuss the Israeli massacre of the Gaza Flotilla and its ramifications.
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http://media11.podbean.com/pb/828a96a21 ... rosky2.mp3

asianlion7

censored from media - Israeli outrage of IDF attack.

Not all Jews are psychopaths.  Sabbatean-Frankists is the main problem.  The Rothschild's masterpiece will be world war III when they fund
every side to annihilate the state they founded, and of course collect all debts from all sides.  IDF is pissing off the world on purpose to serve their purpose.
The Illuminati don't pick sides, they pick a purpose.

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Whaler

Flotilla Massacre News Roundup

Turkey and Hamas to sue Israel flotilla officers
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11587

Schumer: Strangle Them Economically, They Don't Believe in the Torah
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11608

[youtube:3nll2k6p]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBliz7wSCrw[/youtube]3nll2k6p]

Bodies of Murdered Disappeared From Flotilla  
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Are the defenders of 'Antisemitism' losing their edge ?  
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11550

VIDEO-FBI Goons Harass Mother of 5/peace activist--RIDICULOUS!  
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TFC/TiU 10th June 2010 (MP3)
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http://theinfounderground.com/archives/ ... 6-2010.mp3

European Jewish Group to Launch Flotilla to Break Gaza Blockade
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Italian flotilla journalist: My credit card was used after IDF confiscated it
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Video: Israel Defense Force video of siege of 'Mavi Marmara' Hoaxed!
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11566

Israel: A Nation Of Bunglers  
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Palestinian Woman Confronts Israelis Celebrating Freedom Flotilla Massacre
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Rivero interviews Alan Hart
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about 9 minutes in

http://www.justin.tv/michaelrivero/b/265153310