A Freemason in We Are Change NYC

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

He put's "Israel did 9/11" by our MSMD into the nonsense section because it says "Jew" not "Zionist", but Ry's research says that Israel did 9/11. Weird, but yeah that's gatekeeping. Ry is a hardcore athiest too, but I'd be a little surprised if he was a mason though.

Yes, he actually called me an anti-semite, moved my posts to the "just dumb" section and banned me from his forum. The ban has since been lifted for some reason, but I don't plan on going back to that horse-shit of a forum. Dawson is a Mike Rivero lackey and pushes all the same stuff. Both are militant atheists, both defend the Apollo moon landing, both believe that a passenger jet with people in it hit the Pentagon on 9/11, and if you say anything bad about Masons you are a "nut". I'm pretty sure he is a mason. I remember seeing a thread on another forum wondering why he still strongly supports the Mason Ron Paul, and then quoted Dawson from his forum saying that he is a mason too. I can't locate the exact post, but I'm 99% sure that's what I read.

Just as Ryan Dawson of anti-neocons makes fun of people who mention Masons on his forum, it's because he is a mason.

Really? Is that true? I'm of the opinion that the guy in the photographs is indeed a mason, but so what?

All I know is that it sounded strange to me when I read that on his forum he re-classifies any postings about "Israel doing 911" into the nonsense section, sort of like someone does on this forum when you mention things he does not agree with. All that "totalitarian behavior" strikes me as some kind of gatekeeper tactic, which I find very suspect.

I agree with you Thrirdeye. Dawson is a militant pigeonholist who wants everyone to parrot his and only his opinion. Just like on this forum awhile ago I remember being threatened with banishment for daring to veer off the "only Israel/only Zionism" liberal Jew explanation of Jewish misbehavior. Yes the only zionism myth is propounded by disingenuous Jewish anti-Zionists who want us to forget history pre-1897, and I'm starting to suspect that a lot of the militant Pro-Jewish anti-Zionist's are Jews even though they try to hide it -- not all of them just the really militant ones who ban people for not conforming. Anyone who wants to bodyguard topics and clamp down on people for not towing the party line is suspect to me.

P.S. another indication of a Jewish anti-Zionist is if they forcefully try to equate Zionism with Nazism/Zionists with Nazis (i.e. "ZioNazis"), they reference Nazis and the Holoco$t often, they spend more time trying to distance Judaism from Zionism then exposing any crimes, they use the 'Not all Jews are Zionists & not all Zionists are Jews' meme, etc. These are things to look for and so far have not let me down in spotting crypto-Jews masquerading as anti-Zionists. And I'm not against all anti-Zionist Jews, but I am against the ones who try to force-feed the only zionism myth down our throats because that's a subversive action.

[jai_mann]

Just because someone doesn't know what to do with their hands or is nervous or likes to fiddle with their fingers in social situations doesn't mean they're masons.

And just by some weird coincidence, their nervous hands end up in that same pyramid configuration, EVERYTIME!

Don't bother with it thirdeye, it's not in him to admit misjudgment or revoke his opinion, as far as I can tell.

Agreed. I had an entire thread get locked where I was trying to inform people on the board regarding what my research into Tesla had informed me about. I'm pretty sure I used the hydro-electric analogy for tapping ambient energy but some how that notion just doesn't work for some one who worships modern scientists. I didn't even get any comments from him when I recently revealed that the Michelson-Morley experiment, which is what modern physics based it's dismissal of aether on, was conducted by a JEW(Michelson-OY!). No comments. Nadda. I would have thought that this revelation might open the door to at least questioning the fake "Einstein" backed modern physics....*shrug*

[Ahmed]

Albert Pike called them "portico on the outside of the temple" that's what this   appears to be. Masons of some importance tend not to go around telling everyone they're in the Freemasons (for it defeats the purpose of it being a secret society).

Freemasonry, when you take away all the bells and whistles, is Judaism for Gentiles. And not moderate, neo-secular Judaism either, but the worst of the worst bottom feeding parasitic pro-Talmudic, Kaabalist, Zoharite, Zionist Judaism. The rite came over to Europe with the Knights Templar upon their retreat from Jerusalem. Their aims, as they've stated numerous times, is victory in their war against God and the establishment of their Talmudic-Kaabalist world government (i.e. the Satanic dictatorship).

They've been quite successful over the years, but their defeats have also been crushing and set them back many centuries. The politcal system Talmudists fear the most is the Islamic Khalifah (Caliphate), after that its any unified state with an ability to control its own economic affairs. The return of The Caliph is feared by them because such rule would enforce direct and inflexible measures against usury / money-changing cartels.

Masonic symbols and gestures aren't fictional as their own documents and propaganda prove, but sometimes an innocent can be wrongly accused of masonry. I too have given that Masonic hand gesture but was pretending to be Spiderman, not professing an allegiance to the devil.

For example, in that photo, we can only see the handshake from Larry King's side, we don't see Mahamoud Ahmedinejad's hand. So King may well be a Mason, doesn't mean the sentiment is reciprocated by Ahmedinejad. Also the horned devil hand gesture, or Mano Cornuto, is one of theirs. Putting up two of them, however, indicates subversion or mockery as far as I recall. President Ahmedinejad isn't an Illuminati member or mason IMO: Iran, Cuba, Lybia, Sudan and a handful of other free countires being among the few nations who've manged to keep Rothschild out.



"If this hostility, even aversion, had only been shown towards the Jews at one period and in one country, it would be easy to unravel the limited causes of this anger, but this race has been on the contrary an object of hatred to all the peoples among whom it has established itself. It must be therefore, since the enemies of the Jews belonged to the most diverse races, since they lived in countries very distant from each other, since they were ruled by very different laws, governed by opposite principles, since they had neither the same morals, nor the same customs, since they were animated by unlike dispositions which did not permit them to judge of anything in the some way, it must be therefore that the general cause of anti-Semitism has always resided in Israel itself and not in those who have fought against Israel."

Bernard Lazare, 'L'antisémitisme son histoire et ses causes'.

[thirdeyewise]

P.S. another indication of a Jewish anti-Zionist is if they forcefully try to equate Zionism with Nazism/Zionists with Nazis (i.e. "ZioNazis"), they reference Nazis and the Holoco$t often, they spend more time trying to distance Judaism from Zionism then exposing any crimes, they use the 'Not all Jews are Zionists & not all Zionists are Jews' meme, etc. These are things to look for and so far have not let me down in spotting crypto-Jews masquerading as anti-Zionists. And I'm not against all anti-Zionist Jews, but I am against the ones who try to force-feed the only zionism myth down our throats because that's a subversive action.

I've done a lot of research into the whole Nazi thing and I can basically prove that the Nazis were nothing but a phase of the plan to create the state of Israel, just as the Young Turk movement in Turkey was the phase of the plan to release Palestine from Turkish control. But I am not allowed to present my information due to this same "Nonsense factor". It's such nonsense but many researchers have come up with the same conclusion, primarily among them Eustace Mullins. But we can not discuss this issue on a forum meant to uncover just such issues...AMAZING!

Maybe I will put my ideas forth in the personal thoughts section of this forum, that is unless thought crimes are are not tolerated either.

IMO: Iran, Cuba, Lybia, Sudan and a handful of other free countires being among the few nations who've manged to keep Rothschild out.

The thing is that Castro is a Communist Jew and a Mason, so just maybe your assessment of Ahmadinejad might need some rethinking also.

http://theforbiddentruth.net/24686-post2.html
http://theforbiddentruth.net/39875-post4.html

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

P.S. another indication of a Jewish anti-Zionist is if they forcefully try to equate Zionism with Nazism/Zionists with Nazis (i.e. "ZioNazis"), they reference Nazis and the Holoco$t often, they spend more time trying to distance Judaism from Zionism then exposing any crimes, they use the 'Not all Jews are Zionists & not all Zionists are Jews' meme, etc. These are things to look for and so far have not let me down in spotting crypto-Jews masquerading as anti-Zionists. And I'm not against all anti-Zionist Jews, but I am against the ones who try to force-feed the only zionism myth down our throats because that's a subversive action.

I've done a lot of research into the whole Nazi thing and I can basically prove that the Nazis were nothing but a phase of the plan to create the state of Israel, just as the Young Turk movement in Turkey was the phase of the plan to release Palestine from Turkish control. But I am not allowed to present my information due to this same "Nonsense factor". It's such nonsense but many researchers have come up with the same conclusion, primarily among them Eustace Mullins. But we can not discuss this issue on a forum meant to uncover just such issues...AMAZING!

I don't know, I think you jump the gun a little in labeling certain heads of state Jew-puppets or controlled opposition Jew-stooges. Jews are god damned powerful but not THAT powerful just yet. The children of Israel have not "furnished all of the leaders of the world" just yet. -- they have compromised all western government and most middle eastern government but not all. I still have hope for some. The Jews covertly put out disinformation in conspiracy circles to discredit their legitimate opponents. They called Hitler a Jew, and now they're calling Ahamdinejad the "Hitler of the middle east" and saying he is a crypto-Jew. Notice the pattern? When in doubt call your opponent a    to discredit them in the eyes of their supporters.

[thirdeyewise]

I don't know, I think you jump the gun a little in labeling certain heads of state Jew-puppets or controlled opposition Jew-stooges. Jews are god damned powerful but not THAT powerful just yet. The children of Israel have not "furnished all of the leaders of the world" just yet. -- they have compromised all western government and most middle eastern government but not all. I still have hope for some. The Jews covertly put out disinformation in conspiracy circles to discredit their legitimate opponents. They called Hitler a Jew, and now they're calling Ahamdinejad the "Hitler of the middle east" and saying he is a crypto-Jew. Notice the pattern? When in doubt call your opponent a    to discredit them in the eyes of their supporters.

That's the thing, just like Ahmed thought Castro was not touched by Jewish influence, but it turns out that behind the scene he was in complete partnership with them (see links), I can pretty much prove the same with Hitler. I am not jumping the gun at all, it's called unbiased research. I have no cult of personality love for Hitler, as it is obvious some people do, so it does not cloud my thinking. If I present an idea and it is refuted, fine, but why is it that that idea can not be presented at all. Sounds no different than gatekeeping, to me. I am not the first person to come up with that conclusion and as a matter of fact, I am in pretty good company. Why can't the information be openly discussed without threat of the thread being closed...very weird.

I still have hope for some.

Please do tell who you think is still fighting for the Goyim.

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

That's the thing, just like Ahmed thought Castro was not touched by Jewish influence, but it turns out that behind the scene he was in complete partnership with them (see links), I can pretty much prove the same with Hitler. I am not jumping the gun at all, it's called unbiased research. I have no cult of personality love for Hitler, as it is obvious some people do, so it does not cloud my thinking. If I present an idea and it is refuted, fine, but why is it that that idea can not be presented at all. Sounds no different than gatekeeping, to me. I am not the first person to come up with that conclusion and as a matter of fact, I am in pretty good company. Why can't the information be openly discussed without threat of the thread being closed...very weird.

I am not against any discussion, and have stated my opposition to those on here who have acted as gatekeepers in the past. You're free to talk about whatever you want in my book. Now I may not agree, but it should at least be open for discussion that is a given. So go make ur thread, it won't get deleted -- not by me anyway.

Though I'm not sure why you're so preoccupied with convincing everyone that the Nazis were crypto-Zionists and on a massive charade. All the top Nazis were tried and executed on false charges you know -- by the Jews that ran the Nurenburg trials. Was that part of their job description when they signed up to be controlled opposition agents for Jews, that they would succumb to false charges and be executed -- they agreed to die so the Jews could have their state? I don't quite buy it. There was probably some collaboration between the Nazis and top Zionist leaders in Europe to move the Jews to Palestine, but beyond that I don't see this massive puppet conspiracy. The Jews were busy telling Stalin and FDR what to do at the time, in my opinion.

I still have hope for some.

Please do tell who you think is still fighting for the Goyim.

I think Ahmadinejad is legit. The Zionist Jews are threatening war on his country not because he might get nukes but because he openly questioned the holoco$t and 9/11 and calls out Israel for what it is. No puppet of the Jews openly questions the sacred holoco$t. Syria is an enemy of Israel still. Lebanon & Hezbollah as well. North Korea does not allow Jews in it's country. If Russia was Jew-controlled then I don't get the Russia vs Georgia battle in South Ossetia in 08'. Georgia is clearly backed by Israel. Was that another "controlled opposition" charade? The Jew World Order has not been fully established yet as far as I can tell, they're still working on it.

[GordZilla]

That's the thing, just like Ahmed thought Castro was not touched by Jewish influence, but it turns out that behind the scene he was in complete partnership with them (see links), I can pretty much prove the same with Hitler. I am not jumping the gun at all, it's called unbiased research. I have no cult of personality love for Hitler, as it is obvious some people do, so it does not cloud my thinking. If I present an idea and it is refuted, fine, but why is it that that idea can not be presented at all. Sounds no different than gatekeeping, to me. I am not the first person to come up with that conclusion and as a matter of fact, I am in pretty good company. Why can't the information be openly discussed without threat of the thread being closed...very weird.

I am not against any discussion, and have stated my opposition to those on here who have acted as gatekeepers in the past. You're free to talk about whatever you want in my book. Now I may not agree, but it should at least be open for discussion that is a given. So go make ur thread, it won't get deleted -- not by me anyway.

Though I'm not sure why you're so preoccupied with convincing everyone that the Nazis were crypto-Zionists and on a massive charade. All the top Nazis were tried and executed on false charges you know -- by the Jews that ran the Nurenburg trials. Was that part of their job description when they signed up to be controlled opposition agents for Jews, that they would succumb to false charges and be executed -- they agreed to die so the Jews could have their state? I don't quite buy it. There was probably some collaboration between the Nazis and top Zionist leaders in Europe to move the Jews to Palestine, but beyond that I don't see this massive puppet conspiracy. The Jews were busy telling Stalin and FDR what to do at the time, in my opinion.

I still have hope for some.

Please do tell who you think is still fighting for the Goyim.

I think Ahmadinejad is legit. The Zionist Jews are threatening war on his country not because he might get nukes but because he openly questioned the holoco$t and 9/11 and calls out Israel for what it is. No puppet of the Jews openly questions the sacred holoco$t. Syria is an enemy of Israel still. North Korea does not allow Jews in it's country. If Russia was Jew-controlled then I don't get the Russia vs Georgia battle in South Ossetia in 08'. Georgia is clearly backed by Israel. Was that another "controlled opposition" charade? The Jew World Order has not been fully established yet as far as I can tell, they're still working on it.

My thinking is along the same line as MSMD's (stated above). As I said before, the jury is still out for me but I'm not wholeheartedly concerned about its outcome. Thirdeye, you keep saying you can't talk or debate about it here at TiU, but I don't see anyone that stated you can't. In fact, remember this;

"Debate Away!"  

I am interested enough to certainly read and consider the facts- as you see them- laid before us. I am always open to new perspectives, only I find I'm short with them if, that is, I sense a foul. I assume that reaction is from lessons I  learned in the past when numerous people have spoken 90% of the truth then dropped the ball completely, and what seemed as purposely, on certain topics; Norn Finkelstien, Victor Otrovsky, etc ...you know the types.


You know where I stand on the topic so far, and I'm sincerely interested in reading about your position and how you arrived at it.

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

Thirdeye, you keep saying you can't talk or debate about it here at TiU, but I don't see anyone that stated you can't.

Yeah he keeps saying he's not allowed to talk about it, but that's all he's been talking about the last few weeks,  :lol: . Nobody is trying to silence him at all.

Go ahead and make ur thread thirdeye, nobody is going to delete it or close it. Possibly you're just upset that not many people here have conceded the point and got on board with you on this issue, so you claim we are trying to suppress it instead to get more attention.

[Ahmed]

thirdeyewise wrote:
I've done a lot of research into the whole Nazi thing and I can basically prove that the Nazis were nothing but a phase of the plan to create the state of Israel, just as the Young Turk movement in Turkey was the phase of the plan to release Palestine from Turkish control.

You're 100% right on this one. As I mentioned in another thread; Rothschild's engineered clash between Fascism and Communism was simply a macabre means to an end in order to buttress Zionism into Palestine. All three ideologies arose from the swamp of Talmudic Jewry and are the most damaging cults ever inflicted on the human race.

I looked into your links on Castro, some interesting research there and I'm not dismissing it offhand, but I'm not convinced either.

Ultimately, a man isn't his lineage or surname but what he does. And Fidel Castro, though he may come from a Jewish background, has stepped up against Zionist Jew criminals on many occasions since 1959.

In 'Castro's War on Religion' published by The Puebla Institute in 1991: "...30,000 Jews in Cuba at their peak and this [was] reduced to 15,000 by 1959. Most of those fled to the United States after the revolution. Jews, acquainted with Hitler were concerned by Castro's similarities. They foresaw what was coming and warned others. Castro's unbridled anti-Semitism, from his Hitler-admiring days, soon led to the expropriation of all assets of the thriving Cuban Jewish community, driving it into exile. By 1967, around 2,000 Jews were left — less than 1,000 today, most of them elderly. Many joined the growing Cuban exile community in Miami, New Jersey and other places, where they share the same opinion of Castro as other Cubans in exile. Fascism had become unacceptable thanks to the magnificent work of the victims of the Holocaust and the Jewish community worldwide. So, after the fiasco of the Bay of Pigs invasion due to President Kennedy's betrayal, on April 1961, Castro publicly declared himself a communist."

What the author fails to mention, is that the    Castro booted out were gangsters, usurers, pimps and casino racketeers who enjoyed free reign under the Batista regime.

1966: Havana's Tri-Continental Conference passed a resolution calling for the complete socio-political-economic boycott of Israel, and for it to be expelled from all international organizations. Castro also invited PLO partisans to Cuba at this time and in a symbolic gesture, presented the seized Jewish Community Centre in Havana to the Palestinian delegation.

1967: Cuban ambassador to the U.N., Richardo Alarcon denounced the Zionist Jew attack on Egypt as "Armed aggression against the Arab people by a most treacherous surprise attack."

1973: Castro broke all diplomatic relations with Israel and sent 1000 Cuban fighters to help Syria repel the Israelis during 'The Ramadan War'.

1988: Israel and apartheid era South African military were occupying Angola: "We were involved in Angola; you had Israeli officers there cooperating with the army. The link was very intimate." Alon Liel, (Israeli Foreign Ministry's South Africa desk) Fidel sent troops into Angola against this alliance.

So you see, its not easy to denounce a fellow that has, as far as I can tell, fought our common enemy on three continents whilst facing numerous threats of his own.


"If this hostility, even aversion, had only been shown towards the Jews at one period and in one country, it would be easy to unravel the limited causes of this anger, but this race has been on the contrary an object of hatred to all the peoples among whom it has established itself. It must be therefore, since the enemies of the Jews belonged to the most diverse races, since they lived in countries very distant from each other, since they were ruled by very different laws, governed by opposite principles, since they had neither the same morals, nor the same customs, since they were animated by unlike dispositions which did not permit them to judge of anything in the some way, it must be therefore that the general cause of anti-Semitism has always resided in Israel itself and not in those who have fought against Israel."

Bernard Lazare, 'L'antisémitisme son histoire et ses causes'.

[thirdeyewise]

Thirdeye, you keep saying you can't talk or debate about it here at TiU, but I don't see anyone that stated you can't.

Yeah he keeps saying he's not allowed to talk about it, but that's all he's been talking about the last few weeks,  :lol: . Nobody is trying to silence him at all.

Go ahead and make ur thread thirdeye, nobody is going to delete it or close it. Possibly you're just upset that not many people here have conceded the point and got on board with you on this issue, so you claim we are trying to suppress it instead to get more attention.

I have mentioned here and there to point out the fact that I am not allowed to post about it. Trust me, this is from experience Mike will come in and close the thread. Are you guys Admin, because another member telling me "yeah, go ahead and post" means nothing to me when I know all my hard work will be deleted.

Though I'm not sure why you're so preoccupied with convincing everyone that the Nazis were crypto-Zionists and on a massive charade.

It bothers me how people can read from all the same sources but then ignore the parts that don't fit the little storyline they created for themselves.

Or as I said in another posting (my last post):
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=11220&start=15

I think Ahmadinejad is legit.

If the situation with Iran goes the way it seems it is going and we end up in WW3, then whose agenda is being served. When Russian bombs start raining on American cities will we all still be rooting for Putin or whatever group of countries side against America because we think they are anti-Zionist. They want us to think there are two sides to this but in the end we all lose.

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"falsifying intelligence to try to get us to invade iran, by the way Iran, a country that Israel does hundreds of millions of dollars of business under the table with through Dubai. Israel and Iran, well, does anybody not remember Iran-Contra?

I mean this routine here, with we're supposed to not mention the massive drug smuggling part of it so I won't say that part, but the part where Ollie North was convicted involved with some kind of weird trade for weapons to Iran all of it going through Israel that was supposed to I mean, now Iran, this was with the Ayatollah running the country and everyday he's saying let's destroy Israel and when you want to deal with the Ayatollah, you've got to talk to a Jew first! I mean is there something disingenuous about that? Uh, to this day if you wanted to reach anyone in Iran, you'd simply call Tel Aviv and ask for the number! We pretty much all know this."
- Gordon Duff, Chief Editor at http://www.veteranstoday.com on the mark glenn show the ugly truth podcast march 24, 2010


Listen to Eustace Mullins @ 6:25, concerning the Iranian regime:
[youtube:rke22mz2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNeuUmVuFTM[/youtube]rke22mz2]

Am I being preoccupied with convincing you of something or maybe am I simply trying to make sure everyone is aware of all the facts involved before they come to a conclusion on something.

[Negentropic]

You're 100% right on this one. As I mentioned in another thread; Rothschild's engineered clash between Fascism and Communism was simply a macabre means to an end in order to buttress Zionism into Palestine. All three ideologies arose from the swamp of Talmudic Jewry and are the most damaging cults ever inflicted on the human race

100% right?  Aren't you jumping the gun there a little bit? How do you know for a fact that the Rothschilds engineered all this stuff on every side there ever existed in the past 100 years?  Do you have the details of their authentic meetings or their communications the way a historian like Irving does Hitler's and Churchil's or are you just going by the POTLEOZ?  If the latter then that's a theory far far far away from 100% right.  If world events tend to go its way that deosn't prove they have it all locked down on all sides for hundreds of years and able to predict everyone's moves 50 years into the future! Phew!  Not even God himself could do all that!  Seeing the Protocols fulfilled around you only proves that they have been to a significant degree maybe 30 to 40% successful.  That is still a hell of a lot but only kept in check by those people who fought against it.

If Fascism, Communism and Zionism all arose from the same swamp, then name me one ism that has not risen from that lovely Jew swamp and if you cannot then what system do you propose that has not been touched by the grand talmudic wand?  Surely it cannot be capitalism? Also explain to me why it was the Fascist Mussolini who allowed Ezra Pound to do his anti-Zionist radio speeches while the capitalist Americans threw him in an insane asylum without a trial for 13 years?

As for Hitler and the Nazis (Jew Slang for National Socialist) being Rothschild puppets, explain this:  why, if they were so in control of the National Socialists who had just played into their swampy Talmudic paws, did they need 2400 Jews in Nuremberg to make sure justice was dealt? Seems a tad bit excessive does it not?

"Of 3,000 people employed on the staff at the Nuremberg Courts, 2,400 were Jews" - Louis Marschalko (author of "The World Conquerors: the Real War Criminals")

I think Ahmadinejad is legit. The Zionist Jews are threatening war on his country not because he might get nukes but because he openly questioned the holoco$t and 9/11 and calls out Israel for what it is. No puppet of the Jews openly questions the sacred holoco$t. Syria is an enemy of Israel still. Lebanon & Hezbollah as well. North Korea does not allow Jews in it's country. If Russia was Jew-controlled then I don't get the Russia vs Georgia battle in South Ossetia in 08'. Georgia is clearly backed by Israel. Was that another "controlled opposition" charade? The Jew World Order has not been fully established yet as far as I can tell, they're still working on it.

Ahmadinejad hasn't done anything to really discredit himself except flash a few masonic signs and even if he was a mason would that make him a conspirator with Zionists automatically?  I don't think so. This whole idea of 100% control of all masons doesn't really wash. Ahmedinijad has done a lot more to expose Israhell's myths than Kennedy ever did and yet it's Kennedy's brain that was moved out of his skull.  If they were in charge of Iran Ahmedinejad would likewise have been separated from his brain a long time ago. Also Ahmedinijad does not  believe the official 9/11 story one bit or the official holohoax story one bit.  This might be to make him seem really evil to American fools but I don't think so, I think it's genuine despite what Eustace Mullins says.  If Israel could have the Americans attack Iran for them tomorrow they wouldn't hesitate one second. It's absurd to say they want to attack them and kill millions because they really control Iran already!  If they control Iran as Mullins says then why bother attacking and massacaring them?  Can't they just tell their man Ahmedinejad to join their New World Order World Government Love Boat the way they tell their man Obama and the rest?

Putin on the other hand doesn't pass the litmus test since he's never questioned the official 9/11 fable which is ridiculous, forget about even going anywhere near the holohoax. Medvedev is susupected of being Jewish and he's got way too many  Lubavitchers running around over there. All of which makes me suspect that the whole South Ossetia attack might have been orchestrated to give Putin extra street cred as an anti-Zionist and Christian Patriot among the largely anti-Jew Christian Russian population. Putin  himself need not have been aware of it.  Putin knows if he goes too far they'll take him out.  He kicked the oligarchs out so he could invite the lubavitchers in ?  That's like kicking Don Corleone out to allow the consigliere in.  Soviet Russia wasn't much of a threat all those years of the cold war when everyone was scared of them in the West, how threatening can Putin be 20 years down the line and with Russian territory so much smaller?

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

I have mentioned here and there to point out the fact that I am not allowed to post about it. Trust me, this is from experience Mike will come in a close the thread. Are you guys Admin, because another member telling me "yeah, go ahead and post" means nothing to me when I know all my hard work will be deleted.

Yes, I am an admin.

It bothers me how people can read from all the same sources but then ignore the parts that don't fit the little storyline they created for themselves.

Isn't that what you do, ignore everything that doesn't fit ur "every world leader ever was a Jew puppet"? Yep, that's what you do exactly, and then you get mad when people are skeptical of weak evidence and speculation. All you've been talking about is the 'Nazis were Jews' meme for weeks, yet you're here saying you're not allowed to talk about it. That is annoying. This is just getting confusing bro, what are you trying to accomplish? I don't even think you have the answer to that.

I think Ahmadinejad is legit.

If the situation with Iran goes the way it seems it is going and we end up in WW3, then whose agenda is being served. When Russian bombs start raining on American cities will we all still be rooting for Putin or whatever group of countries side against America because we think they are anti-Zionist. They want us to think there are two sides to this but in the end we all lose.

This is retarded. Nobody would be rooting for Putin if Russia started bombing America. But America is bombing other countries as we speak and you don't seem to be concerned. You're here supposedly warning us about "controlled opposition" mythos of Russia and Iran -- the latter being the most vocal critic of the terrorist state of Israel and the terrorist state of Jewmerica.You're trying to demonize the only vocal opposition to the powers that be that can be found in this day and age. You clearly need to get your priorities in order.

Quote:

"falsifying intelligence to try to get us to invade iran, by the way Iran, a country that Israel does hundreds of millions of dollars of business under the table with through Dubai. Israel and Iran, well, does anybody not remember Iran-Contra?

I mean this routine here, with we're supposed to not mention the massive drug smuggling part of it so I won't say that part, but the part where Ollie North was convicted involved with some kind of weird trade for weapons to Iran all of it going through Israel that was supposed to I mean, now Iran, this was with the Ayatollah running the country and everyday he's saying let's destroy Israel and when you want to deal with the Ayatollah, you've got to talk to a Jew first! I mean is there something disingenuous about that? Uh, to this day if you wanted to reach anyone in Iran, you'd simply call Tel Aviv and ask for the number! We pretty much all know this."
- Gordon Duff, Chief Editor at http://www.veteranstoday.com on the mark glenn show the ugly truth podcast march 24, 2010

Okay if Ahmadinejad is a Jew-puppet, then answer to the following things:

-If Ahmadinejad is a puppet of Jews then why did the western media try to undermine Ahmadinejad's election by promoting his victory as "stolen"?
-If Ahmadinejad is a puppet of Jews then why did CIA/MI6/Mossad launch a cout d'etat attempt with the staged anti-Ahmadinejad riots and other subversive provocations such as the staged death of NEDA in the run up to the elections?
-If Ahmadinejad is a puppet of Jews then why did the Mossad plan to assassinate him?
-If Ahmadinejad is a puppet of Jews then why does he openly question the holoco$t and 9/11 and say both are fraud?
-If Ahmadinejad is a puppet of Jews then why did the CIA and Mossad sponsor the Iranian based terror group Jundullah which carried out bombings, kidnappings, targeted assassinations and be-headings in an attempt to topple his regime?

Am I being preoccupied with convincing you of something or maybe am I simply trying to make sure everyone is aware of all the facts involved before they come to a conclusion on something.

Your problem is that you get upset when people come to a conclusion other than the one you envisioned. I've stated my intense dislike of subversion and people forcing their opinions on others. You've been talking the same 'Nazis were Zionists' talk for weeks, yet weeks later people are still unconvinced. Instead of getting mad, maybe you should come to the realization that ur arguments aren't as good as you seem to think they are.

[Negentropic]

For example, in that photo, we can only see the handshake from Larry King's side, we don't see Mahamoud Ahmedinejad's hand. So King may well be a Mason, doesn't mean the sentiment is reciprocated by Ahmedinejad. Also the horned devil hand gesture, or Mano Cornuto, is one of theirs. Putting up two of them, however, indicates subversion or mockery as far as I recall. President Ahmedinejad isn't an Illuminati member or mason IMO: Iran, Cuba, Lybia, Sudan and a handful of other free countires being among the few nations who've manged to keep Rothschild out.

Actually according to Texe Marrs in the movie "Obama Rothschild's Choice," both Castro and Chavez are masons.

[youtube:2poe3vjw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbbf7yugiZQ[/youtube]2poe3vjw]

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

You're 100% right on this one. As I mentioned in another thread; Rothschild's engineered clash between Fascism and Communism was simply a macabre means to an end in order to buttress Zionism into Palestine. All three ideologies arose from the swamp of Talmudic Jewry and are the most damaging cults ever inflicted on the human race.

I looked into your links on Castro, some interesting research there and I'm not dismissing it offhand, but I'm not convinced either.

Ultimately, a man isn't his lineage or surname but what he does. And Fidel Castro, though he may come from a Jewish background, has stepped up against Zionist Jew criminals on many occasions since 1959.

In 'Castro's War on Religion' published by The Puebla Institute in 1991: "...30,000 Jews in Cuba at their peak and this [was] reduced to 15,000 by 1959. Most of those fled to the United States after the revolution. Jews, acquainted with Hitler were concerned by Castro's similarities. They foresaw what was coming and warned others. Castro's unbridled anti-Semitism, from his Hitler-admiring days, soon led to the expropriation of all assets of the thriving Cuban Jewish community, driving it into exile. By 1967, around 2,000 Jews were left — less than 1,000 today, most of them elderly. Many joined the growing Cuban exile community in Miami, New Jersey and other places, where they share the same opinion of Castro as other Cubans in exile. Fascism had become unacceptable thanks to the magnificent work of the victims of the Holocaust and the Jewish community worldwide. So, after the fiasco of the Bay of Pigs invasion due to President Kennedy's betrayal, on April 1961, Castro publicly declared himself a communist."

What the author fails to mention, is that the    Castro booted out were gangsters, usurers, pimps and casino racketeers who enjoyed free reign under the Batista regime.

1966: Havana's Tri-Continental Conference passed a resolution calling for the complete socio-political-economic boycott of Israel, and for it to be expelled from all international organizations. Castro also invited PLO partisans to Cuba at this time and in a symbolic gesture, presented the seized Jewish Community Centre in Havana to the Palestinian delegation.

1967: Cuban ambassador to the U.N., Richardo Alarcon denounced the Zionist Jew attack on Egypt as "Armed aggression against the Arab people by a most treacherous surprise attack."

1973: Castro broke all diplomatic relations with Israel and sent 1000 Cuban fighters to help Syria repel the Israelis during 'The Ramadan War'.

1988: Israel and apartheid era South African military were occupying Angola: "We were involved in Angola; you had Israeli officers there cooperating with the army. The link was very intimate." Alon Liel, (Israeli Foreign Ministry's South Africa desk) Fidel sent troops into Angola against this alliance.

So you see, its not easy to denounce a fellow that has, as far as I can tell, fought our common enemy on three continents whilst facing numerous threats of his own.


"If this hostility, even aversion, had only been shown towards the Jews at one period and in one country, it would be easy to unravel the limited causes of this anger, but this race has been on the contrary an object of hatred to all the peoples among whom it has established itself. It must be therefore, since the enemies of the Jews belonged to the most diverse races, since they lived in countries very distant from each other, since they were ruled by very different laws, governed by opposite principles, since they had neither the same morals, nor the same customs, since they were animated by unlike dispositions which did not permit them to judge of anything in the some way, it must be therefore that the general cause of anti-Semitism has always resided in Israel itself and not in those who have fought against Israel."

Bernard Lazare, 'L'antisémitisme son histoire et ses causes'.

Very interesting. Thanks for that info Ahmed. This info will be upsetting to Thirdeyewise as it doesn't fit in with his 'all heads of state that ever existed are Jew-pawns/all heads of state critical of and/or openly against Jews/Zionism are Jew controlled opposition" buffoonery.

[thirdeyewise]

@MSMD

I made a point about the fact that Mike does not tolerate certain things because it came up in conversation. I have mentioned the Nazi thing here and there because the topic came up and I saw a chance to inject in the conversation. My point was that whenever I tried in the past to post a Lengthy piece on the matter, I was not allowed to. I thought I made that point clear. Where are you getting all this "you are just mad" stuff. Why are you getting all aggressive with me for no reason. Seriously, there is no need for that.

Very interesting. Thanks for that info Ahmed. This info will be upsetting to Thirdeyewise as it doesn't fit in with his 'all heads of state that ever existed are Jew-pawns/all heads of state critical of and/or openly against Jews/Zionism are Jew controlled opposition" buffoonery.

By the way, You are so "mad" by my Hitler claim that you don't realize that Ahmed was actually agreeing with me on the Hitler thing, but here you are   to it............. :oops:

thirdeyewise wrote:
I've done a lot of research into the whole Nazi thing and I can basically prove that the Nazis were nothing but a phase of the plan to create the state of Israel, just as the Young Turk movement in Turkey was the phase of the plan to release Palestine from Turkish control.

You're 100% right on this one. As I mentioned in another thread; Rothschild's engineered clash between Fascism and Communism was simply a macabre means to an end in order to buttress Zionism into Palestine. All three ideologies arose from the swamp of Talmudic Jewry and are the most damaging cults ever inflicted on the human race.

He was only disagreeing with me about Castro

I looked into your links on Castro, some interesting research there and I'm not dismissing it offhand, but I'm not convinced either.

buffoonery

Dude, calm down. There is no need for all this name calling. How is what you are doing any different than when Mike does it over the Masonic poses.

I agree with you Thrirdeye. Dawson is a militant pigeonholist who wants everyone to parrot his and only his opinion. Just like on this forum awhile ago I remember being threatened with banishment for daring to veer off the "only Israel/only Zionism" liberal Jew explanation of Jewish misbehavior. Yes the only zionism myth is propounded by disingenuous Jewish anti-Zionists who want us to forget history pre-1897, and I'm starting to suspect that a lot of the militant Pro-Jewish anti-Zionist's are Jews even though they try to hide it -- not all of them just the really militant ones who ban people for not conforming. Anyone who wants to bodyguard topics and clamp down on people for not towing the party line is suspect to me.

You are doing the same thing you wrote about. It does not make it okay because it's you doing it. Calm down

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

Where are you getting all this "you are just mad" stuff.

I don't know, maybe becuz you said so yourself...
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It bothers me how people can read from all the same sources but then ignore the parts that don't fit the little storyline they created for themselves.

Clearly you are "bothered" by people disagreeing with you on this non-issue.

By the way, You are so "mad" by my Hitler claim that you don't realize that Ahmed was actually agreeing with me on the Hitler thing, but here you are   to it............. :oops:

lol, what does this even mean? I was for his info on Castro. I'm not mad if he agrees with you on Hitler, I could care less as I'm not an obsessive control freak who wants to convert everybody on the forum into clones of MonkeySeeMonkeyDo. People can come to their own conclusions. I state my opinion and move on. You, like a certain former member on here, not only state your opinion but refuse to accept that some here disagree or are not fully convinced of your theory (which is not really your theory at all as it's taken from literature you read on it and you're simply repeating it here).

buffoonery

Dude, calm down. There is no need for all this name calling. How is what you are doing any different than when Mike does it over the Masonic poses.

I didn't call you names. I used a single descriptive word to illustrate my opinion of your over-the-top lackluster controlled opposition theories. Your big thing has always been to try and prove that so and so & such and such is controlled opposition; you want to prove that everyone's controlled opposition and there is not and has never been legitimate opposition to the Jew mafia. I haven't seen you doing much else since I've been on this forum as far as I can remember. I'm not trying to be critical of you but, I mean, it seems like such a waste of time. But be that as it may I am rapidly losing interest in this conversation.     At the end of the day this is just a thought in our minds and nothing changes. This debate is endlessly pointless, it really is.

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

I agree with you Thrirdeye. Dawson is a militant pigeonholist who wants everyone to parrot his and only his opinion. Just like on this forum awhile ago I remember being threatened with banishment for daring to veer off the "only Israel/only Zionism" liberal Jew explanation of Jewish misbehavior. Yes the only zionism myth is propounded by disingenuous Jewish anti-Zionists who want us to forget history pre-1897, and I'm starting to suspect that a lot of the militant Pro-Jewish anti-Zionist's are Jews even though they try to hide it -- not all of them just the really militant ones who ban people for not conforming. Anyone who wants to bodyguard topics and clamp down on people for not towing the party line is suspect to me.

You are doing the same thing you wrote about. It does not make it okay because it's you doing it. Calm down

This is retarded dude, there is no contradiction here as I am not clamping down on you or forcing you to change your opinion. You are free to go promote your Jewish Nazi theory all over the forum, I don't particularly care. I'm an admin so I do have the power to put a stop to it but I don't want to do that because I'm against that kind of thing as I've said before. Keep digging for those contradictions in my statements though.    You're bound to find one sooner or later as this conversations drags on and on until the end of time. I'm out. Have fun with your theories and convincing the whole forum that you're right and that we're all useful idiots for not promoting it everywhere all over the world, screaming it from the rooftops.  

 

[thirdeyewise]

I looked into your links on Castro, some interesting research there and I'm not dismissing it offhand, but I'm not convinced either.

Ultimately, a man isn't his lineage or surname but what he does. And Fidel Castro, though he may come from a Jewish background, has stepped up against Zionist Jew criminals on many occasions since 1959.

There are some basic facts that need to be established, in order for me to convey to you my thoughts on this.

Q: Do you acknowledge that Fidel Castro is Hugo Chavez's mentor, or is that a fact that we need to establish?

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

I looked into your links on Castro, some interesting research there and I'm not dismissing it offhand, but I'm not convinced either.

Ultimately, a man isn't his lineage or surname but what he does. And Fidel Castro, though he may come from a Jewish background, has stepped up against Zionist Jew criminals on many occasions since 1959.

There are some basic facts that need to be established, in order for me to convey to you my thoughts on this.

Q: Do you acknowledge that Fidel Castro is Hugo Chavez's mentor, or is that a fact that we need to establish?

Texe Marrs also says Castro is of Jewish lineage. Regarding Chavez, his socialism is more in line with Judaism. Additionally, although Chavez kicked an Israeli diplomat out of Caracas, he allows Mossad agents to travel to and fro freely throughout Venezuela.

[Ahmed]

MonkeySeeMonkeyDo wrote:
Very interesting. Thanks for that info Ahmed. This info will be upsetting to Thirdeyewise as it doesn't fit in with his 'all heads of state that ever existed are Jew-pawns/all heads of state critical of and/or openly against Jews/Zionism are Jew controlled opposition" buffoonery.

You're welcome MSMD, well done on the documentary btw. Hope your next film is an adaptation of 'Israel did 9/11: All The Proof In The World'.


"If this hostility, even aversion, had only been shown towards the Jews at one period and in one country, it would be easy to unravel the limited causes of this anger, but this race has been on the contrary an object of hatred to all the peoples among whom it has established itself. It must be therefore, since the enemies of the Jews belonged to the most diverse races, since they lived in countries very distant from each other, since they were ruled by very different laws, governed by opposite principles, since they had neither the same morals, nor the same customs, since they were animated by unlike dispositions which did not permit them to judge of anything in the some way, it must be therefore that the general cause of anti-Semitism has always resided in Israel itself and not in those who have fought against Israel."

Bernard Lazare, 'L'antisémitisme son histoire et ses causes'.

[Ahmed]

There are some basic facts that need to be established, in order for me to convey to you my thoughts on this.

Q: Do you acknowledge that Fidel Castro is Hugo Chavez's mentor, or is that a fact that we need to establish?

Fidel Castro is an inspirational figure not only for Chavez but Correa, Morales, Ortega and symbolic of a Latin American revival of sorts.

If Chavez was controlled, why would Zionist Jews and their enablers try to remove him in the 2002 coup d'etat, wouldn't it just have been easier for them to give orders instead? And if he was an ex-agent who'd rebelled or seen the light and cut his strings; well we saw how those Talmudicheads declared war on Panama and Iraq once Manuel Noreiga and Saddam Hussein began thinking for themselves. Still, I'm sure we'd all like to read your views on this so please go ahead.


"If this hostility, even aversion, had only been shown towards the Jews at one period and in one country, it would be easy to unravel the limited causes of this anger, but this race has been on the contrary an object of hatred to all the peoples among whom it has established itself. It must be therefore, since the enemies of the Jews belonged to the most diverse races, since they lived in countries very distant from each other, since they were ruled by very different laws, governed by opposite principles, since they had neither the same morals, nor the same customs, since they were animated by unlike dispositions which did not permit them to judge of anything in the some way, it must be therefore that the general cause of anti-Semitism has always resided in Israel itself and not in those who have fought against Israel."

Bernard Lazare, 'L'antisémitisme son histoire et ses causes'.

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

There are some basic facts that need to be established, in order for me to convey to you my thoughts on this.

Q: Do you acknowledge that Fidel Castro is Hugo Chavez's mentor, or is that a fact that we need to establish?

Fidel Castro is an inspirational figure not only for Chavez but Correa, Morales, Ortega and symbolic of a Latin American revival of sorts.

If Chavez was controlled, why would Zionist Jews and their enablers try to remove him in the 2002 coup d'etat, wouldn't it just have been easier for them to give orders instead? And if he was an ex-agent who'd rebelled or seen the light and cut his strings; well we saw how those Talmudicheads declared war on Panama and Iraq once Manuel Noreiga and Saddam Hussein began thinking for themselves. Still, I'm sure we'd all like to read your views on this so please go ahead.

Great point Ahmed. The CIA has long been after Chavez, the Mossad as well. I think this ADL article pretty much shows he is on the right side of things and is no puppet.

http://www.adl.org/PresRele/ASInt_13/5786_13.htm

Anti-Semitism On Rise In Venezuela In Aftermath Of Gaza Flotilla Affair

New York, NY, June 16, 2010 ... Acerbic and hate-filled statements by President Hugo Chavez and other Venezuelan government leaders are once again contributing to a climate of rising anti-Semitism in Venezuela, where extreme criticism of Israel "continues to be used as a political tool."
 
According to the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), recent statements from Chavez and others in the government fit into a pattern of extreme anti-Israel rhetoric from Venezuela's current leaders.  In the aftermath of the Gaza flotilla affair, President Chavez cursed Israel as a "terrorist state" and an enemy of the Venezuelan revolution and claimed Israel's Mossad spy agency was trying to assassinate him.
 
"Extreme criticism and the de-legitimization of Israel continue to be used by the government of Venezuela as a political tool," said Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director.  "The atmosphere of extreme anti-Israel criticism and an unsettling focus on the Venezuelan Jewish community's attitudes creates an environment for anti-Semitism to grow and flourish.  So far this hasn't translated into attacks against individual Jews or Jewish institutions.  However, we cannot forget that the Jewish community in Venezuela has already witnessed violent anti-Semitic incidents in the past few years."
 
In a new online report, the League documents recent anti-Semitic expressions in Venezuela in the aftermath of the Gaza flotilla incident, including those of government and political leaders, conspiracy theories and accusations in the government-run media, and statements on various anti-Israel Web sites.
 
In a June 12 interview with the government-owned national television network, Foreign Minister Nicolas Maduro was asked about Hezbollah's alleged presence in Venezuela and the threat of an attack on the Jewish community.  He suggested that should a terrorist attack be carried out on Venezuelan soil, a likely culprit would be the "intelligence assassin apparatus of the State of Israel," the Mossad.
 
Vilification of Zionism is particularly present in the government-run media and the so-called "alternative" media run by government sympathizers who are intricately intertwined with the government apparatus, according to ADL.  Media and political leaders seem to take their cues from Chavez, who has in the past few years made his feelings about Israel all-too clear.
 
"While Chavez tries to inoculate himself against charges of anti-Semitism by issuing assurances that he is not against Jews, he and his government hold the Jewish community to account for their positions on Israel," said Mr. Foxman.  "Chavez has called on Venezuelan Jews to speak out against Israel, and this has put the community in a difficult position where their loyalty to their country is being called into question."
 
The League's report includes examples of cartoons and images from anti-Israel rallies, as well as excerpts of anti-Semitic and anti-Israel statements from the Web site Aporrea.org, whose founder and webmaster until February 2009 was Martin Sanchez, the Venezuelan Consul General of San Francisco.  Aporrea is a forum for anti-Semitic sentiments filled with stereotypes of Jews reminiscent of the fictional "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion."

[thirdeyewise]

I would think it should be priority one to Analyze the cast of characters we are dealing with and verify (to the best of our ability) there intentions. Why people get upset about such matters is beyond me. If i am wrong, point it out, don't ridicule me for it.

Texe Marrs also says Castro is of Jewish lineage.

It is beyond a shadow of a doubt that Castro is of Jewish ancestry, he admits as much.
http://theforbiddentruth.net/24686-post2.html

Ultimately, a man isn't his lineage or surname but what he does.

It is beyond a shadow of a doubt that he has private dealing with Jews/Israelis, while publicly he chastises them.
http://theforbiddentruth.net/39875-post4.html


Like Ahmed said, More important than his lineage is what a man does, especially the things he does when he thinks no one will notice & also the company he keeps. What I want to show is that Castro very much plays into this lineage he is accused of being a part of, he is part of this Jewish cabal.

Communism is a Jewish ideology and anybody promoting it is usually a Jew, a Jewish frontman or a dupe. Castro is a Communist & the man Castro mentored is also a Communist. I can prove this in more ways than one.

Actually according to Texe Marrs in the movie "Obama Rothschild's Choice," both Castro and Chavez are masons.

Yes, that is because both of Castro's & Chavez's heroes are masons

"The purpose of Freemasonry is to bring about Communism. "  - Christian Rakovsky
http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2007/12/09/symposium-in-cuba-to-study-the-history-of-fremasonry-in-latin-america/

Regarding Chavez, his socialism is more in line with Judaism.

I will present 3 different times when Chavez makes his political leanings crystal clear:

Hugo Chavez admits to being Marxist, just like Christ
http://www.finchannel.com/news_flash/World/56128_Hugo_Chavez_admits_to_being_Marxist,_just_like_Christ_/
 

Among the new ministers to be incorporated into the government Chavez also pointed to the new Minister of Labour, José Ramón Rivero, which he described as "young and a workers' leader". "When I called him" Chavez explained, "he said to me: 'president I want to tell you something before someone else tells you... I am a Trotskyist', and I said, 'well, what is the problem? I am also a Trotskyist! I follow Trotsky's line, that of permanent revolution."
http://www.marxist.com/chavez-trotskyist-president120107.htm


Chavez's Historic Call for a Fifth Socialist International - In the footsteps of Marx (1st international) & Trosky (4th international in 1938)
http://venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/4965



I guarantee even with these clear declarations some will still try and make excuses for them, saying "Well, what he meant was"

With the evidence presented is there any wonder why in his last statement Castro mentions the Jewish scam called the Holocaust, as if it really happened, all in line with the Jewish script.

"the crematoria where millions of Jews of all ages were exterminated by the Nazis"
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11626

Seriously, you think Castro does not know the Holocaust is a fraud, yet here he is giving it credibility.

Recap:
Castro is a Jew
Castro is a Mason
Castro is a Communist
Castro's protégé is a Communist
Castro is a dictator
Castro was helped by a Jew to gain world wide recognition (Herbert L. Matthews)


Jews/Masonic dupes are actors. Just because something is presented on television does not mean that the event occurred exactly like they said it did.

@1:00 in this video they mention Fritz kuhn who staged this grand events in Madison Square Garden in NYC. This event had Jews jumping on stage and all kinds of drama, turns out these events were funded by the ADL (of Bnai Brith, a Masonic org).

[youtube:ajs31a1x]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsUtvOW6SR0[/youtube]ajs31a1x]

If Chavez was controlled, why would Zionist Jews and their enablers try to remove him in the 2002 coup d'etat

Events that you call "attempted coups"  or "military skirmishes" are usually nothing more than two Masonic leaders positioning their chess pieces as instructed by whomever is calling the shots.

Here is an example:

If key leaders from both the Confederate Army & the Union army are both getting instructions on how to conduct warfare from the same person, do you not think that the outcome is more than likely predertermined. There is really nothing unpredictable and spontaneous about events that are planned out behind closed doors, events that are connected by the Masonic factor.





Do you really think Rothschild left the outcome to chance, really?

[thirdeyewise]

Okay, the hand in jacket is a masonic pose

The Hand inside the jacket is definitely a masonic gesture. That's a simple fact. Look it up.

That "hidden hand of Jahbulon" sign can be found being done by almost every significant revolutionary/political figure of any importance in modern history.It's importance can not be underestimated by anyone trying to connect the dots in the grand scheme of things.

Major revolutionary figures


Russian Revolution



Turkish Revolution



Presidential assassinations


John & Edwin booth (also Jewish)


there are many more but hopefully you get the picture.


Remember in the movie The Matrix there was a character called "The Architect" who was basically the guy pulling all the strings in the Matrix world. What if the two Jewish guys who made the movie were actually clueing us in to the identity of our "Architect" who controls our world?





Bonus pose:

[jai_mann]

I concur with you on these issues thirdeyewise. There is a strong influence from these people which is the image that they desire to present, and again, their actual intentions, as determined by their behavior. Ahmedinajad imho is a mason and is playing his role. But just because a mason/jew puppet is at the top of a hierarchical pyramid does not mean that they have entire control over the populace. And again, you can't control the conflict as well if you don't have your masonic pieces in place. There's no doubt in my mind that Castro is Jewish and Mason and working towards this new world order. Che Guevara was also jewish from his mother's side from what I've read. It would make a lot of sense too, why his face is used as symbols and why jews have no problem sporting a shirt with his face (imagine them sporting a shirt with the face of a goy? haha yeh right).

Overt appearances are not always as they seem. Ask my professors and they'll tell you I'm a communist. Wearing a Che Guevara shirt in class goes a long way with deceiving those whom I know to be on the other side lmao!

[thirdeyewise]

Ahmedinajad imho is a mason and is playing his role. But just because a mason/jew puppet is at the top of a hierarchical pyramid does not mean that they have entire control over the populace.

To tell you the truth I don't know if he is or not but he does alot of things to make me wonder if his job is to be the catalyst for a third world conflict. He does alot of things that seem intentionally antagonistic, without serving any real purpose. Is the following scenario possible, we would be fools not to entertain the idea:

Mental Headline (what people are thinking): The world at brink of nuclear showdown

Real Headline: Ahmadinejad Stresses Need for New World Order
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/ahma ... orld-order


Funny thing is that we discuss the protocols & how they pertain to our world but then we act like none of it could be true.

"But if there should arise in its midst a plot, then at the head of that plot will be no other than one of our most trusted servants." – protocol 15

"Nowadays, if any States raise a protest against us it is only pro forma at our discretion and by our direction, for their anti-Semitism is indispensable to us for the management of our lesser brethren." – protocol 9

[Ognir]

[Ahmed]

Very few people would doubt the existence of Masonic gestures / poses and you've provided many examples to that effect. Freemasonry's aim, however, isn't Communism but Lurianic Kabalist   dictatorship like Albert Pike said in Morals & Dogma (the Masonic bible).

"To usurp the tiara of Rome (i.e. the occident) and impose the Lurianic one world dictatorship...

"...all that is scientific and grand in the religious dreams of all the Illuminati is borrowed from the Kabalah; all the Masonic associations owe to it their Secrets and their Symbols".

And just for the record: there are no good or bad Masons; the entire cult is corrupt and satanic to the core. There are, however, decent people who sometimes end up in Freemasonry; not so much today as most know what it entails but there were a few in the past.

Now I value cynicism more than most, but I put it to you that if we were having this conversation in 1835: you'd tell me that U.S. president Andrew Jackson is a Freemason of the Harmony Lodge, I'd agree, we'd both agree that Masonry was evil. Yet in spite of that, Jackson would find the resolve to boot Rothschild out of America and destroy their banking cartel.

Truth of it is, we can only use our judgement to determine friend from foe and maybe the only time we truly know someone is when the trenches are dug and you're staring at the enemy ahead. My view is that so as long as the guns are pointing in the right direction, I care not who pulls the trigger.

thirdeyewise wrote:Communism is a Jewish ideology and anybody promoting it is usually a Jew, a Jewish frontman or a dupe.

...or staring down the barrels of a million U.S. ZOG rifles and a few nukes as Castro was in 1959. Logically speaking, if Fidel hadn't allied his country with Russia at that point, do you think Cuba would still be on the map?

Remember in the movie The Matrix there was a character called "The Architect" who was basically the guy pulling all the strings in the Matrix world. What if the two Jewish guys who made the movie were actually clueing us in to the identity of our "Architect" who controls our world?

Vaguely, Iranian writer Majed Shah Huseini famously described these movies as "Zionist racism derived from the teachings of Gush Emunim".  Can't say since I saw the film long ago.

He does alot of things that seem intentionally antagonistic, without serving any real purpose.

President Ahmedinejad IMO has done more to bring Zionist crimes to the world's attention in five years, than most world leaders have done in fifty. And though I tend not to discuss WW2 / holocaust because they're more pressing issues at hand, MA has also bought that debate into the mainstream.


"If this hostility, even aversion, had only been shown towards the Jews at one period and in one country, it would be easy to unravel the limited causes of this anger, but this race has been on the contrary an object of hatred to all the peoples among whom it has established itself. It must be therefore, since the enemies of the Jews belonged to the most diverse races, since they lived in countries very distant from each other, since they were ruled by very different laws, governed by opposite principles, since they had neither the same morals, nor the same customs, since they were animated by unlike dispositions which did not permit them to judge of anything in the some way, it must be therefore that the general cause of anti-Semitism has always resided in Israel itself and not in those who have fought against Israel."

Bernard Lazare, 'L'antisémitisme son histoire et ses causes'.

[Ahmed]

Negentropic wrote: 100% right? Aren't you jumping the gun there a little bit? How do you know for a fact that the Rothschilds engineered all this stuff on every side there ever existed in the past 100 years? Do you have the details of their authentic meetings or their communications the way a historian like Irving does Hitler's and Churchil's or are you just going by the POTLEOZ? If the latter then that's a theory far far far away from 100% right.

The French Connection website has a mini-archive on WW1-2 related subjects on the front page. Also, Alexander Carrington Hitchcock's Rothschild History and History of The Money Changers are excellently researched sources.

If world events tend to go its way that deosn't prove they have it all locked down on all sides for hundreds of years and able to predict everyone's moves 50 years into the future! Phew! Not even God himself could do all that! Seeing the Protocols fulfilled around you only proves that they have been to a significant degree maybe 30 to 40% successful. That is still a hell of a lot but only kept in check by those people who fought against it.

It's definitely not a foregone conclusion, if it were; I doubt any of us would even be here 8-)

As I said earlier on this thread:

They've been quite successful over the years, but their defeats have also been crushing and set them back many centuries. The politcal system Talmudists fear the most is the Islamic Khalifah (Caliphate), after that its any unified state with an ability to control its own economic affairs. The return of The Caliph is feared by them because such rule would enforce direct and inflexible measures against usury / money-changing cartels.

Leaders like Ahmedinejad, Castro, Erdoğan, Correa, Gul and others are fighting the good fight IMO. Daniel Ortega for example: look at the extent of the depravity Zionist Jews used to keep him down, but he made it in the end.

As I'm sure you already know; its only when people broke free from their monetary grip as an armed, unified (i.e. internationalist) and disciplined force that they actually achieved something (e.g. when Andrew Jackson took out Rothschild in the 1830s, when the Muslim Arabs in Medina purged Jewish criminals / moneylenders from their city, General Ulysses Grant's 'General Orders 11' in 1862 etc).

If Fascism, Communism and Zionism all arose from the same swamp, then name me one ism that has not risen from that lovely Jew swamp and if you cannot then what system do you propose that has not been touched by the grand talmudic wand? Surely it cannot be capitalism?

Capitalism has become a dirty word primarily because of fractional reserve banking and the Jewish credit system. In simple terms, the three schools of thought in this arena are:

1) The Islamic Economic System: Awqaf (state trusts / infrastructure), Infaq (individual spending) and Zakat (charity). Since this system bans usury hence limits speculation, the currency is always commodity backed and tends to be Gold or Silver.  

The above comes from the school of thought where people believe man is the master of money. This idea was supported by The Prophet Muhammed (pbuh), Jesus (pbuh), The Caliphs, Julius Ceaser, Andrew Jackson, Aristotle, Henry I and others.

2) Usury, Fractional reserve banking / paper money and credit: The second school of thought is that money is the master of man, that usurers represent the money and should practise the craft of money creation to exert control over all people, especially the goyim. This was supported by Talmudic Jews (i.e. Rothschild etc), Oliver Cromwel, Jacob Schiff and numerous Rothschild cartels. The aim is to seize tangible assets (e.g. industry, institutions etc) through the accumulation of interest-based debts accrued on an intangible entity (e.g. credit). Its also the biggest scam in the history of cons.

Also explain to me why it was the Fascist Mussolini who allowed Ezra Pound to do his anti-Zionist radio speeches while the capitalist Americans threw him in an insane asylum without a trial for 13 years?

The way the U.S. treated Ezra Pound was an absolute disgrace. Bear in mind that the U.S. has been occupied by Rothschild since 1913 and is acting as host for the Zionist parasite.

In 1911, Mussolini was imprisoned for leading anti-war protests against Italy's occupation of Libya. 11 years later he was sending in more troops to expand the occupation of Libya. These people, like most politicians, were for sale to the highest bidders and those bidders were almost always the usurers of Talmudic Jewry.

And have a look at the nationalist heroes of facist Italy: Mazzini, Garibaldi, Cavour, Farini and De Pretis, reads like a who's who of the Illuminati. Neither BM or Hitler outlawed Zionist Jew groups in their respective countires BM even met WZO leader Chaim Weizmann on 3rd January 1923: Weizmann denyed that he was working for the (Rothschild controlled) British "...but even if it were so, Italy stood to gain as much as Great Britain by a weakening of Moslem power (in Palestine)"
Daniel Carpi, 'Weizmann's Political Activities in Italy 1923-1934 (Tel Aviv, 1975) p.225.

Mussolini met Weizmann again on 17 September 1926 and then met Nahum Sokolow, Chairman of the Zionist Executive and future WZO leader, in Rome. The head of Italian Zionism Alfonso Pacifici said these new conditions would bring about a "...revival of Italian Jewry. Indeed, he claimed to have evolved a philosophy of Judaism akin to the spiritual Tendenz of Fascism long before this had become the rule of life in Italian polity"

Paul Goodman, Judaism under the Fascist Regime, Views (April 1932), p.46.

As for Hitler and the Nazis (Jew Slang for National Socialist) being Rothschild puppets, explain this: why, if they were so in control of the National Socialists who had just played into their swampy Talmudic paws, did they need 2400 Jews in Nuremberg to make sure justice was dealt? Seems a tad bit excessive does it not?

Nuremberg wasn't so much a trial as it was a mop up operation to tie up the loose ends of an going criminal enterprise. To dispose of physical and breathing evidence and prevent anyone from putting a target on Rothschild. At that point, the Talmudists / Zionists no longer required those Germans and thus they were marched to the gallows: One host collapsed, the parasite moved on to the U.S.

"You do for us until we're done with you" as DBS memorably put it.

People today are better informed about the machinations and MO of this crime network then any other time in history. This bodes well for future generations who, as long as they keep their eyes on the ball, could, God willing, be the first generation in the history of the world to keep the Talmudic terror at bay for the longest period of time.
 
"If this hostility, even aversion, had only been shown towards the Jews at one period and in one country, it would be easy to unravel the limited causes of this anger, but this race has been on the contrary an object of hatred to all the peoples among whom it has established itself. It must be therefore, since the enemies of the Jews belonged to the most diverse races, since they lived in countries very distant from each other, since they were ruled by very different laws, governed by opposite principles, since they had neither the same morals, nor the same customs, since they were animated by unlike dispositions which did not permit them to judge of anything in the some way, it must be therefore that the general cause of anti-Semitism has always resided in Israel itself and not in those who have fought against Israel."

Bernard Lazare, 'L'antisémitisme son histoire et ses causes'.