The Beast As Saint: The Truth About Martin Luther King Jr.

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

Apparently everything we have been told about MLK Jr. is a complete lie. Apparently he was a fraud, plagiarist, degenerate, communist traitor and one of the most successful Jew-puppets used to kick-start the integration agenda in America.

http://www.viddler.com/explore/DestroyZOG/videos/2/

[SavageChrist]

What a powerful video.  I've since passed it along to the War On You forum, since they have a bigger audience, and give you the credit for finding and linking it in this forum.  In fact, I've done that with quite a few films you've posted in here, but simply to get the word out, which I'm sure you don't have a problem with.

Keep Up the Excellent Work Sir...

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

What a powerful video.  I've since passed it along to the War On You forum, since they have a bigger audience, and give you the credit for finding and linking it in this forum.  In fact, I've done that with quite a few films you've posted in here, but simply to get the word out, which I'm sure you don't have a problem with.

Keep Up the Excellent Work Sir...

Just note I didn't make this one. I made the Beginners Guide to the Jewish Question one. Glad you liked it.  

[ahaze]

Difficult to digest, but eye opening content to consider.  I have to admit this finally begins to answer the long hanging question that's bothered the back of my mind for years.  Namely, how did Michael King so consistently command media attention?  And so the whole Stanley Levison (Jewish New York lawyer) sponsorship of the "fraud" makes plain the heavyweight handler wielding the clout to get the coverage.  

But effectively this would mean that desegregation was Communist driven.  So the shameful remnants of slavery institutionalized in Jim Crow laws were abolished by Jewish Marxist fraudulent means in order to undermine the U.S.?  And so equal rights for African Americans represents a stepping stone to destroy the U.S.?

Thanks MSMD!

[ahaze]

I think I got the answer to my previous question in MSMD's posting of "Jews Reveal Their Plans for the World".  But if the following truly represents the game-plan they're running, then there are a number of obvious screws loose that I think give cause for hope.

If I kept the quotes straight from the "Jews Reveal Their Plans for the World" video then I think all of the following come from Israel Cohen in "A Racial Program For The Twentieth Century" (1912).

"By propounding into the consciousness of the dark races that for centuries they have been oppressed by whites we can mold them to the program of the communist party."

"While inflaming the negro minority against the whites, we will instill in the whites a guilt complex for their exploitation of the negroes."

"We will aid the negroes to rise in prominence in the professions and in the world of sports and entertainment."

"With this prestige the negro will be able to intermarry with the whites and begin a process which will deliver America to our cause."

[Whaler]

"We will aid the negroes to rise in prominence in the professions and in the world of sports and entertainment."

More of a result of socio economic circumstances rather than a result of the Jews promoting Black athletes....and genetics have a lot to do with it...sorry to pull a "Jimmy the Greek" here but that's just what I think...and I don't hate the "brothers"...I just think it's a hard truth.

edit: Only Americans(ages 30-99) will get the Jimmy the Greek reference. Here is a link to what I was referring to.
http://www.makli.com/jimmy-the-greek-ra ... t-0012693/

[youtube:lminopt8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCKzwnQN_2I[/youtube]lminopt8]

[Negentropic]

You could say Malcolm X, preaching an anti-integration philosophy, also received quite a bit of media attention at around the same time. Why was this? ...Just putting that question out there.

Both Malcolm and MLK were pushing for equality with whites, one for integration, the other opposed, something that blacks were supposed to have by law but never had in practice.  Malcolm was not a Jew puppet, neither is Farrakhan now who advocates the books of Eustace Mullins to his followers, MLK was, but both ended up playing into the controllers' hands.  Forced integration or forced non-integration are both equally destructive precisely because they are forced through government interference in order to benefit one special interest group at the cost of another. One isolates blacks from whites and cuts off economic sustenance through mutually beneficial trade and trust, the other tries to force whites to give special privileges or consideration to remedy what their ancestors did.

My own position is Libertarian: Blacks and all other minorities should be considered invdividuals, first and foremost, and have their individual rights protected under the constitution. That is if no special protections are given to one group or another which, in practice, is almost never the case by deliberate design, then you can't get any handouts or special treatement because you're whatever color and have to earn your worth on the free market. For example, in a free market, if some racist exercises his right to not allow someone in their restaurant who's black or Mexican or whatever, he loses that business and gains the ostracism of all liberal minded white people also whereas a non-racist white or yellow person can open a restaurant right across the street from him, cater to all colors and put him out of business.  The free market corrects for irrational decisions of prejudiced people by hitting them directly in their pockets. They can continue to be bigoted and suffer consequences for it. It's much better than someone suing him for civil rights violations because it respects the racist's right to be racist which is his opinion and therefore he can't say my right to think the way I want is not protected.  If a black racist follower of Malcolm X wanted to exclude whites from their restaurant they would be similarly free to do so and suffer the consequences.  

Racism does not automatically tranlsate into kill all other races, sometimes people just want to be around their own culture and prefer their own culture and they should be free to do so if they want and suffer whatever consequences or 'benefits' that go with it. Spike Lee does not believe that blacks and whites should intermarry and not too many people call him a racist for believing that or assume he would be anything but nice to a black-white couple if he met them.  If David Duke believes the same thing, he's an evil person. Would Spike Lee ever make a movie about David Duke and say that Duke's views are just as justified as his? Ha ha ha, what are you talking about?

The fact that not all cultures are equal is a demonstrable fact through subsequent achievements in science and the arts. All cultures of any decent level of civilization or developoment provide some benefits to future cultures if their products and discoveries survive but certain cultures are still superior to others as demonstrated in their achievements and their use to human life. Only a fool would say that medieval culture is superior to the classical ancient Greek culture, for example, but liberals scream racism every time someone mentions that Western white Christian culture, the one that discovered the electricity you're using, created the automobile you're driving and the computer you're using and the process of manufacturing it, which everyone else subsequently copied, is superior to Zulu culture, Chicano Culture or the American Indians and their typees and mocassins and peyote. You don't find the Chinese or Japanese or Indians very concerned with this kind of  cultural 'inferiority complex' for not having achieved as much as the Western 'Imperialist' culture but blacks and Mexicans will jump right down your throat for it directed by the usual suspects. The Chinese don't even hardly bring up the Opium wars forcing opium addiction on their whole nation as an excuse for being backward or stagnating for a long time. When they get the opportunity they get to work copying everything Western and start kicking some ass. Same goes for the Japaneese and Indians.  The Indians bring up the English now and then but not to ask for any special privileges. Theey've already demonstrated enough ability , especially in mathematics and the high-tech computer related  fields for the Rothschilds to openly declare them as their new host country.  That will bring with it prosperity as surely as it does rape and pillage after some creativity has been fostered.

[Christopher Marlowe]

I was surprised to hear some of the facts cited in the MLK vid. I always liked MLK. He was a great speaker. But if he was a plagiarist then what can I say?
I liked Malcom X as well, and I enjoyed his bio -- as told to Alex Haley.

I don't buy into any racial superiority bullsh*t. Pride is a sin, and race pride is a silly sin.  It's like trying to take credit for the accomplishments of everyone who has the same shade skin.

I don't believe in race, per say. I think it's more about culture. As far as "mixing" races goes, if a blond guy wants to marry a blond woman, that's his business. If I want to marry a black girl or a Mexican girl, that's my own business.  

I think government granting favors to select races to advance their social status is totally unfair and wrong.

[Negentropic]

I do respect the inventions/creations by Whites, Arabs and others(I'm using my keyboard and PC right now!). Although, the technological advancement makes it easier for The Controllers to enslave people. I don't need technology such as the Personal Computers, Cars or Banking Systems to be a happy human being; these technologies just improve along with the level of Civilization. I have respect for the Western technologies, at the same time I have respect for a more primitive, less-dependent way of living life; there are positives and negatives in any order of living, we Westerners could learn a lot from what our ancestors used to do centuries ago.

Culture - the integrated pattern of human knowledge, belief, and behavior that depends upon the capacity for learning and transmitting knowledge to succeeding generations

Most cultures do have something to offer that's positive simply by being a culture, an entire culture can be backwards and still offer some positive values. However, all other things being equal, the more valid science is available in a culture that can be used to develop technologies that benefit humans, the more important that culture is and the more worthy of protection (through Individual rights as in the constitution, not through any groups rights nonsense) when it becomes threatened.  Technology is anything that improves a human being's standard of living, it could be material or spiritual.  If you allow 30 million Mexicans to just cross the border and impose their own culture on the United States, without respecting the culture of the United States (which largely comes from Europe, just like Mexico's, but was allowed, thanks to the superior freedoms and protections of the individual offered by the Constitution, to develop much further than Mexico) and trying to adapt to that system, you're basically committing cultural suicide.  The Mexicans can't say no the Americans have to adapt to me, have to have Spanish language available everywhere, blah blah. Some of them don't even want to but they are encouraged to do so by the usual suspects, creating division in the process, as set down in the Protocols. It took them a long time to get this stuff going on such a massive level. A hundred years ago, if anyone out of the millions that immigrated here (legally at least for most of them at that time)  and didn't respect the USA, didn't even try to learn English and demanded that the USA should adapt to them, would have been laughed at and given a swift kick in the ass straight back to where they came from.  Black Americans of the early 1900s and all through WWI  had a lot of respect for the USA despite the racism and felt just as proud to be Americans as any other group. They didn't ask for handouts at every turn and they didn't make up 50% of the prison population either. In fact, they SUED to be allowed to go fight for the USA in the first world war beecause they wanted to their part and didn't want to be left out as  Farrakhan reminded everyone in that great speech he gave:

At around 9:00 minutes he brings up the Black Americans that sued to go to war

[youtube:2bdu5gks]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOe-sRUnO7Y[/youtube]2bdu5gks]

Farrakhan has gone much further than Malcolm X ever did but instead of following him, the majority of blacks have been programmed through 10,000 bullshit 'gangsta' rap songs and videos to be base materialists and care about nothing but money and how to sell themselves out to get more of it.  As for the black on white crime statistics (never mind the black on black), they started skyrocketing around the late 60s and have been pretty much  going up ever since.  It's almost as if the whole civil rights movmenet was designed to set the black population loose on the whites since if you look at the statistics there was comparatively very little black on white crime in the 1950s compared to the massive amount every year nowadays.  

http://www.racismeantiblanc.bizland.com/005/06-02.htm


http://library.flawlesslogic.com/rape.htm

[axa0176]

"And such are the days we give to men in turns."

We don't know the (valid) majority of our history and we've all seen how the history we THINK we know is in fact a pack of lies to a large extent.  Places like Africa are "underdeveloped" now but that is just in our recent history.  Who's to say in 450 years Zimbabwe won't be the existing superpower.

Remember, just under 200 years ago the British thought the Indians were intellectually inferior and were calling the Chinese the sick man of Asia.

[asianlion7]

5 years ago I watched some hard-to-find Conspiracy videos from the Library;  One of which explained how many blacks, such as MLK,  had been used as "cannon fodder" for the communist party to destroy America.  Americans are like a bunch of frogs boiling in a pot, completely unaware the stove is on.  Bit by bit, the communist system has been growing in the USA in many forms - feminism, feminizing men, "no kid gets left behind", homosexuality, bankruptcy, destructing of ethnicity, destruction of DNA, destruction of organic food, destruction of human rights, destruction of the nuclear family, etc..

MLK had a dream alright, that was to turn every black man into a white one.  I get annoyed with black people when they put these communist douche bags like MLK and Nelson Mandela on a pedestal.  I have a cousin that sees red when I talk shit about MLK, saying he was a useless communist that wanted to turn all black men into white men.  The communist Jews want all races to mix, meanwhile these Jews only look for other Jews to procreate with, even though there is no race on the earth more mixed than Jewish people.
When MLK talked about the promised land, he must have been talking about going to that big blond pussy in the sky.

All of us get duped from time to time.  Even Farrakhan an Malcolm-X get duped;  Mecca with it's idolatrous black asteroid worship, is not the city of Mohamed's pilgrimage, Jerusalem is;  It's no wonder that the Saudi Royal Family are nothing but a nest of crypto-Jews.

However when I see Jewish people destroying the constitution, I have no sympathy.  The constitution is just a silly piece of paper drawn up by a bunch of arrogant criminals that have forever confused the difference between NATION & CORPORATION.  NATION comes from the greek word "ethnos" meaning ETHNICITY.  CORPORATION is a fictitious person.  The USA, Canada, and mexico, etc.. are all CORPORATIONS and thus, fictitious persons and not nations at all.  Most people have been duped into accepting the communist idea of a corporation is a nation so the transition to world gov't will be a breeze. Nation is blood.

"One Nation under God" is really "one corporation under Lucifer/Satan".

These "founding fathers" in their hubris, neglected to invite any of the local aboriginal nations that are well over a thousand; There were no Cree, no Huron, no Ojibwa, no Mohawk, etc... at this signing of this Great nation called the USA.   I can estimate there are over a thousand of nations in north america because I live in BC, Canada on an Indian Reserve as my wife is Native.  There are well over 50 nations of Native people in BC, with different languages and cultures, most of which have not signed treaties with the Canada Corp. and are therefore not part of Canada. Back in the day, her nation was in the in the thousands then reduced to a 150 by canadian gov't with small pox blankets, but they've picked up their numbers today.

Black people in Canada were given the right to vote before Native people. Up until the 1960s Native people could finally vote but they still needed passes to come off the reserve into Canada.  Some of my wife's uncles and cousins have been hush money in the hundreds of thousands of dollars by the Canadian gov't not to talk about how they were raped in school.  I've heard stories of some kids being thrown from windows and burned in furnaces in some residential schools.

The way blacks have been treated in the USA is a "Sunday school picnic" compared to the way Natives have been treated in Canada.  All that pussy, money and fame wasn't good enough for MLK I suppose, maybe he grew a conscience in the end?

I actually look forward to when Rothschild turns Canada, USA and Mexico into one subsidiary company.  All these rednecks, especially in places like Texas, are going to be up-in-arms, when Mexicans run over them and marginalize them.  These Constitution defenders had no sympathy for the Native people living in their ancestral land, trying to genocide the lot of them with no mercy, so I won't have any sympathy when Mexicans give them a taste of their own medicine.

MLK served his purpose keeping blacks and whites forever at each other's throats or humping like jack rabbits.  Whenever I tell people Jews owned all the slave ships that brought black people to America I always get a bewildered look.  Whenever I tell people in my family we have Jewish slave traders in our ancestry, I have to repeat it a few times for it to sink in because the brainwashing everyone goes through is so intense.  Jews are very clever to keep blacks in the dark about slavery or they would get no co-operation from them.  I guarantee MLK never had a clue.

[Negentropic]

"And such are the days we give to men in turns."

We don't know the (valid) majority of our history and we've all seen how the history we THINK we know is in fact a pack of lies to a large extent. Places like Africa are "underdeveloped" now but that is just in our recent history. Who's to say in 450 years Zimbabwe won't be the existing superpower.

Remember, just under 200 years ago the British thought the Indians were intellectually inferior and were calling the Chinese the sick man of Asia.

If you can document it with actual authenticated documents going back to the times people first developed languages and writing, then it's history at the point where different viewpoints from different historians of the period converge. Then as new discoveries are made you can refine that approximation to a point. The more information is available the closer you can come to proving certain things actually happened or didn't happen.  To the extent you can prove that something was deliberately forged and altered then to that extent it becomes false history.  That's what real historians are for, to expose the false historians for their forgeries and falsifications of history (perfect example, the Revisionist Historians of WWII, guys like Butz, Irving, Toben, Faurisson, etc. who are called 'falsifiers of history' by the Jew owned mainstream media, but are actually the real historians, they have completely destroyed the falsehoods and lies of the mainstream establishment historians, who refuse to debate them, and now with the internet, anyone with the ability to reason on their own and come to their own conclusions has access to that info).  

You have no documents of oral history except some drawings on walls and stuff so oral history can't be trusted since each generation changes the story around by the time it gets written down  but any society that hasn't even developed a written language isn't going to have anything all that interesting to know about anyway, aside from some mystical mumbo jumbo and stories of tribal wars.  Any society that wants to become a superpower can only do it on a base of reason, logic and scientific discovery, there is no other way.  Reality doesn't go away if you ignore it. If Zimbabwe rejects reason, logic and scientific discovery in favor of mystical mumbo jumbo then it will never even be a minor power, never mind a superpower. If they do decide to become reasonable and scientific and adopt Western modes of inquiry and are not sabotaged then there is no reason to wait 450 years, they can become a relative world power in a hundred years, the same way that Japan did.  Unfortunately the current situation of South Africa with its so-called black leadership (controlled from outside of course) does not indicate that reason, logic and science are too welcome over there.




As far as understanding the use of music for propagandaa and self-sabotage goes:

Between crazy hippies


[youtube:fsstyplm]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8vBDET3kbI[/youtube]fsstyplm]





and stupid-ass 'gangstas'


[youtube:fsstyplm]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSbBb_ZvAF8[/youtube]fsstyplm]




I'll  take crazy hippies every time. At least they're searching for something spiritual even if taking a ton of indiscriminate drugs isn't the best way to go searching for it.  

[Whaler]

I loved the Geto Boys when I was a kid.

They have a real positive message.  :crazy:

As I walked through 5th Ward, I saw this man
He was kind, but he was blind, I snatched his jewelry and ran

Saw my teacher Miss Elaine at the grocery store
I waited by her car, she asked: "Why aren't you in school?"
Put my gun up to her head and said, "Get in, you old fool"
She offered her keys, cried and said, "Please!"
She promised not to tell and give me A's and B's
I said, "I want your money, grub, and all I can sell"
I looked into her eyes and she was scared as hell
I knew she was a snitch, I beat her down with my gun
Got happy with the trigger, now I'm on the run

[youtube:2hg0ztaq]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyyKKjm27QA[/youtube]2hg0ztaq]

I'LL BLOW YOUR MOTHERFUCKIN HOUSE UP.. AND IF YOUR WIFE AND KIDS INSIDE.. THEY'RE FUCKED!!

[youtube:2hg0ztaq]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGKR5Oe-4Oc[/youtube]2hg0ztaq]
 :wtf:

[thirdeyewise]

All that 24/7 beaming of gansta rap into Black homes is deliberate social engineering & becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.



"Do you know some of these satanic Jews have taken over BET?... Everything that we built, they have. The mind of Satan now is running the record industry, movie industry and television. And they make us look like we're the murdererss; we look like we're the gangsters, but we're punk stuff."
"Justifiable Homicide: Black Youth in Peril (Part 3)" speech at Mosque Maryam, 11/11/07


Jews intentionally turned rap into what it is today. They promote pill popping/promiscuity to babies &  of course those that rap will promote whatever will make them rich. Even rappers such as Immortal Technique, who seem to be independent, are really pushing forth their agenda.


Sumner Redstone - Jew  (Brought "Gangsta Rap" to the youth of the world.)
Jimmy Iovine - Jew
Clive Davis - Jew
Jerry Heller - Jew
Mike Klein - Jew
Lyor Cohen - Jew
Rick  Rubin - jew


To quote a great song by Mos Def - The Rapeover

old white men is runnin this rap shit
Corporate force's runnin this rap shit
Some tall israeli is runnin this rap shit
We poke out the asses for a chance to cash in
Cocaine, is runnin this rap shit
'Dro, 'yac and E-pills is runnin this rap shit

[Negentropic]

That's my joint right there. How the fuck you know bout niggas I be listening to. I posted that vid before on TiU though.

That's where I first saw it, genius, right here on TIU, off a link you left on the infamous Curt Maynard Kills His Wife & Himself thread.  What am I not allowed to repost one of your precious links without giving credit to the original linker?  Don't worry I don't want credit for discovering the measly-assed talent of Jeezy G or whatever his name is. I reposted it here because it's a good representation of how low your 'NIGGAS' as you refer to them are willing to sink in exploiting their own community in order to make some money out of the bullcrap rap business which gives them money every time they act stupid and hurt themselves and others of their own kind and / or white people who are targeted to be dumbed down by the same raps and videos. If you don't care about that because then they'll call you a HATA, then go ahead and DON'T HATE, CONGRATULATE  :up: your 'Niggas'  as they piss all over your own community chasing the carrot dangled in front of their noses. I'm not commenting on the rappers' ability to convey a 'realistic' message or their ability as rappers.  When i say 'stupid-ass,' that just means they're dumb as shit in terms of not thinking of anything but money, cash and Ho's. I'm not saying that they have no talent whatsoever, nothing to offer the world as human beings. Being a good rapper takes talent just like being a good drummer or singer takes talent.  Being a good asskisser and sell-out takes talent too. Whatever they have to offer is being put to its worst use because of the overall message, not the delivery. Musically and in terms of performance for what it is, the rap and video is actually good, you can watch it and be entertained by it, in the same way as a good clip for a realistic gangster movie or blaxploitation movie with minstrel show elements added (it would make a good addition in the extras section of Spike Lee's "Bamboozled" DVD, not that he'll have trouble finding stupid rap videos, a great movie that sums up exactly what the rap industry is with the allegorical comparison of minstrel shows), as you laugh at its utter stupidity for its willingness to exploit its own at the same time.  In terms of what it pushes, the same basic crap of money, hos and drugs, i.e. BASE MATERIALISM of the worst kind, it's only another drop in the ocean of deliberate social engineering of both blacks and whites that started with NWA's "Straight Out of Compton" which is the destructive work of art that opened the floodgates.  No one told NWA or the Geto Boys to directly to do what they did so the mass programming to commence, they were just allowed to do it because of free-speech. It's just that after they did it, everyone that monkeyed them got financing and push, not white supremacist groups. The destructive experiment showed positive results and was shifted into overdrive. Before that most rappers didn't even curse on their albums. One of the greatest rappers of all time, Rakim, didn't even curse on any of his best albums and was as hardcore as any rapper now without exploiting his own community while offering a positive message at the same time. After NWA and their copycats opened the floodgates and the Jew money knew where to dangle the carrot, blacks came running to chase it. Nothing was taboo except calling Jews 'Kikes.'  If you're Ice Cube or Jay-Z or Snoop Dog or Eminem and you call a Jew a 'Kike' straight up, without having any character speaking it, the way Howard Stern does, you can bet your ass you will have problems to deal with. However, in the benefit of exercising and progressing free speech, you can say Fuck, Shit, Motherfucka, Cocksucka, Bitch, Ho, Whore, Faggot, Punk-Ass, Nigga, Nigger, Cracka, White Piece of Shit, and a hundred variations thereof anytime you want, a thousand times in the same song even, and the more the better. What  dumbfucks!


Here's a great article linked by Rense. My own view is not nearly as harsh as this guy's, I think that hip-hop, even of the most destructive gangsta kind, can be art when done with artistic skill (morality does not enter into it but lack of morals makes us condemn it as a destructive work of art to be wary of, especially if it is deliberately made to spread without critical analysis into millions of homes),  but he has a lot of valid points that he makes.


http://www.rense.com/general41/hip.htm



How Hip-Hop Holds
Blacks Back
By John H. McWhorter
City Journal
9-16-3

Not long ago, I was having lunch in a KFC in Harlem, sitting near eight African-American boys, aged about 14. Since 1) it was 1:30 on a school day, 2) they were carrying book bags, and 3) they seemed to be in no hurry, I assumed they were skipping school. They were extremely loud and unruly, tossing food at one another and leaving it on the floor.
 
Black people ran the restaurant and made up the bulk of the customers, but it was hard to see much healthy "black community" here. After repeatedly warning the boys to stop throwing food and keep quiet, the manager finally told them to leave. The kids ignored her. Only after she called a male security guard did they start slowly making their way out, tauntingly circling the restaurant before ambling off. These teens clearly weren't monsters, but they seemed to consider themselves exempt from public norms of behavior - as if they had begun to check out of mainstream society.
 
What struck me most, though, was how fully the boys' musichard-edged rap, preaching bone-deep dislike of authorityprovided them with a continuing soundtrack to their antisocial behavior. So completely was rap ingrained in their consciousness that every so often, one or another of them would break into cocky, expletive-laden rap lyrics, accompanied by the angular, bellicose gestures typical of rap performance. A couple of his buddies would then join him. Rap was a running decoration in their conversation.
 
Many writers and thinkers see a kind of informed political engagement, even a revolutionary potential, in rap and hip-hop. They couldn't be more wrong. By reinforcing the stereotypes that long hindered blacks, and by teaching young blacks that a thuggish adversarial stance is the properly "authentic" response to a presumptively racist society, rap retards black success.
 
The venom that suffuses rap had little place in black popular culture - indeed, in black attitudes - before the 1960s. The hip-hop ethos can trace its genealogy to the emergence in that decade of a black ideology that equated black strength and authentic black identity with a militantly adversarial stance toward American society. In the angry new mood, captured by Malcolm X's upraised fist, many blacks (and many more white liberals) began to view black crime and violence as perfectly natural, even appropriate, responses to the supposed dehumanization and poverty inflicted by a racist society. Briefly, this militant spirit, embodied above all in the Black Panthers, infused black popular culture, from the plays of LeRoi Jones to "blaxploitation" movies, like Melvin Van Peebles's Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song, which celebrated the black criminal rebel as a hero.
 
But blaxploitation and similar genres burned out fast. The memory of whites blatantly stereotyping blacks was too recent for the typecasting in something like Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song not to offend many blacks. Observed black historian Lerone Bennett: "There is a certain grim white humor in the fact that the black marches and demonstrations of the 1960s reached artistic fulfillment" with "provocative and ultimately insidious reincarnations of all the Sapphires and Studds of yesteryear."
 
Early rap mostly steered clear of the Sapphires and Studds, beginning not as a growl from below but as happy party music. The first big rap hit, the Sugar Hill Gang's 1978 "Rapper's Delight," featured a catchy bass groove that drove the music forward, as the jolly rapper celebrated himself as a ladies' man and a great dancer. Soon, kids across America were rapping along with the nonsense chorus:
 
I said a hip, hop, the hippie, the hippie, to the hip-hip hop, ah you don't stop the rock it to the bang bang boogie, say up jump the boogie, to the rhythm of the boogie, the beat.
 
A string of ebullient raps ensued in the months ahead. At the time, I assumed it was a harmless craze, certain to run out of steam soon.
 
But rap took a dark turn in the early 1980s, as this "bubble gum" music gave way to a "gangsta" style that picked up where blaxploitation left off. Now top rappers began to write edgy lyrics celebrating street warfare or drugs and promiscuity. Grandmaster Flash's ominous 1982 hit, "The Message," with its chorus, "It's like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder how I keep from going under," marked the change in sensibility. It depicted ghetto life as profoundly desolate:
 
You grow in the ghetto, living second rate And your eyes will sing a song of deep hate. The places you play and where you stay Looks like one great big alley way. You'll admire all the numberbook takers, Thugs, pimps and pushers, and the big money makers.
 
Music critics fell over themselves to praise "The Message," treating it as the poetry of the streets - as the elite media has characterized hip-hop ever since. The song's grim fatalism struck a chord; twice, I've heard blacks in audiences for talks on race cite the chorus to underscore a point about black victimhood. So did the warning it carried: "Don't push me, 'cause I'm close to the edge," menacingly raps Melle Mel. The ultimate message of "The Message" - that ghetto life is so hopeless that an explosion of violence is both justified and imminent - would become a hip-hop mantra in the years ahead.
 
The angry, oppositional stance that "The Message" reintroduced into black popular culture transformed rap from a fad into a multi-billion-dollar industry that sold more than 80 million records in the U.S. in 2002 - nearly 13 percent of all recordings sold. To rap producers like Russell Simmons, earlier black pop was just sissy music. He despised the "soft, unaggressive music (and non-threatening images)" of artists like Michael Jackson or Luther Vandross. "So the first chance I got," he says, "I did exactly the opposite."
 
In the two decades since "The Message," hip-hop performers have churned out countless rap numbers that celebrate a ghetto life of unending violence and criminality. Schooly D's "PSK What Does It Mean?" is a case in point:
 
Copped my pistols, jumped into the ride. Got at the bar, copped some flack, Copped some cheeba-cheeba, it wasn't wack. Got to the place, and who did I see? A sucka-ass nigga tryin to sound like me. Put my pistol up against his head - I said, "Sucka-ass nigga, I should shoot you dead."
 
The protagonist of a rhyme by KRS-One (a hip-hop star who would later speak out against rap violence) actually pulls the trigger:
 
Knew a drug dealer by the name of Peter - Had to buck him down with my 9 millimeter.
 
Police forces became marauding invaders in the gangsta-rap imagination. The late West Coast rapper Tupac Shakur expressed the attitude:
 
Ya gotta know how to shake the snakes, nigga, 'Cause the police love to break a nigga, Send him upstate 'cause they straight up hate the nigga.
 
Shakur's anti-police tirade seems tame, however, compared with Ice-T's infamous "Cop Killer":
 
I got my black shirt on. I got my black gloves on. I got my ski mask on. This shit's been too long. I got my 12-gauge sawed-off. I got my headlights turned off. I'm 'bout to bust some shots off. I'm 'bout to dust some cops off. . . . I'm 'bout to kill me somethin' A pig stopped me for nuthin'! Cop killer, better you than me. Cop killer, fuck police brutality! . . . Die, die, die pig, die! Fuck the police! . . . Fuck the police yeah!
 
Rap also began to offer some of the most icily misogynistic music human history has ever known. Here's Schooly D again:
 
Tell you now, brother, this ain't no joke, She got me to the crib, she laid me on the bed, I fucked her from my toes to the top of my head. I finally realized the girl was a whore, Gave her ten dollars, she asked me for some more.
 
Jay-Z's "Is That Yo Bitch?" mines similar themes:
 
I don't love 'em, I fuck 'em. I don't chase 'em, I duck 'em. I replace 'em with another one. . . . She be all on my dick.
 
Or, as N.W.A. (an abbreviation of "Niggers with Attitude") tersely sums up the hip-hop worldview: "Life ain't nothin' but bitches and money."
 
Rap's musical accompaniment mirrors the brutality of rap lyrics in its harshness and repetition. Simmons fashions his recordings in contempt for euphony. "What we used for melody was implied melody, and what we used for music was sounds - beats, scratches, stuff played backward, nothing pretty or sweet." The success of hip-hop has resulted in an ironic reversal. In the seventies, screaming hard rock was in fashion among young whites, while sweet, sinuous funk and soul ruled the black airwaves - a difference I was proud of. But in the eighties, rock quieted down, and black music became the assault on the ears and soul. Anyone who grew up in urban America during the eighties won't soon forget the young men strolling down streets, blaring this sonic weapon from their boom boxes, with defiant glares daring anyone to ask them to turn it down.
 
Hip-hop exploded into popular consciousness at the same time as the music video, and rappers were soon all over MTV, reinforcing in images the ugly world portrayed in rap lyrics. Video after video features rap stars flashing jewelry, driving souped-up cars, sporting weapons, angrily gesticulating at the camera, and cavorting with interchangeable, mindlessly gyrating, scantily clad women.
 
Of course, not all hip-hop is belligerent or profane - entire CDs of gang-bangin', police-baiting, woman-bashing invective would get old fast to most listeners. But it's the nastiest rap that sells best, and the nastiest cuts that make a career. As I write, the top ten best-selling hip-hop recordings are 50 Cent (currently with the second-best-selling record in the nation among all musical genres), Bone Crusher, Lil' Kim, Fabolous, Lil' Jon and the East Side Boyz, Cam'ron Presents the Diplomats, Busta Rhymes, Scarface, Mobb Deep, and Eminem. Every one of these groups or performers personifies willful, staged opposition to society - Lil' Jon and crew even regale us with a song called "Don't Give a Fuck" - and every one celebrates the ghetto as "where it's at." Thus, the occasional dutiful songs in which a rapper urges men to take responsibility for their kids or laments senseless violence are mere garnish. Keeping the thug front and center has become the quickest and most likely way to become a star.
 
No hip-hop luminary has worked harder than Sean "P. Diddy" Combs, the wildly successful rapper, producer, fashion mogul, and CEO of Bad Boy Records, to cultivate a gangsta image - so much so that he's blurred the line between playing the bad boy and really being one. Combs may have grown up middle-class in Mount Vernon, New York, and even have attended Howard University for a while, but he's proven he can gang-bang with the worst. Cops charged Combs with possession of a deadly weapon in 1995. In 1999, he faced charges for assaulting a rival record executive. Most notoriously, police charged him that year with firing a gun at a nightclub in response to an insult, injuring three bystanders, and with fleeing the scene with his entourage (including then-pal Jennifer "J. Lo" Lopez). Combs got off, but his young rapper protege Jamal "Shyne" Barrow went to prison for firing the gun.
 
Combs and his crew are far from alone among rappers in keeping up the connection between "rap and rap sheet," as critic Kelefa Sanneh artfully puts it. Several prominent rappers, including superstar Tupac Shakur, have gone down in hails of bullets - with other rappers often suspected in the killings. Death Row Records producer Marion "Suge" Knight just finished a five-year prison sentence for assault and federal weapons violations. Current rage 50 Cent flaunts his bullet scars in photos; cops recently arrested him for hiding assault weapons in his car. Of the top ten hip-hop sellers mentioned above, five have had scrapes with the law. In 2000, at least five different fights broke out at the Source Hiphop Awards - intended to be the rap industry's Grammys. The final brawl, involving up to 100 people in the audience and spilling over onto the stage, shut the ceremony down - right after a video tribute to slain rappers. Small wonder a popular rap website goes by the name rapsheet.com.
 
Many fans, rappers, producers, and intellectuals defend hip-hop's violence, both real and imagined, and its misogyny as a revolutionary cry of frustration from disempowered youth. For Simmons, gangsta raps "teach listeners something about the lives of the people who create them and remind them that these people exist." 50 Cent recently told Vibe magazine, "Mainstream America can look at me and say, 'That's the mentality of a young man from the 'hood.'" University of Pennsylvania black studies professor Michael Eric Dyson has written a book-length paean to Shakur, praising him for "challenging narrow artistic visions of black identity" and for "artistically exploring the attractions and limits of black moral and social subcultures" - just one of countless fawning treatises on rap published in recent years. The National Council of Teachers of English, recommending the use of hip-hop lyrics in urban public school classrooms (as already happens in schools in Oakland, Los Angeles, and other cities), enthuses that "hip-hop can be used as a bridge linking the seemingly vast span between the streets and the world of academics."
 
But we're sorely lacking in imagination if in 2003 - long after the civil rights revolution proved a success, at a time of vaulting opportunity for African Americans, when blacks find themselves at the top reaches of society and politics - we think that it signals progress when black kids rattle off violent, sexist, nihilistic, lyrics, like Russians reciting Pushkin. Some defended blaxploitation pictures as revolutionary, too, but the passage of time has exposed the silliness of such a contention. "The message of Sweetback is that if you can get it together and stand up to the Man, you can win," Van Peebles once told an interviewer. But win what? All Sweetback did, from what we see in the movie, was avoid jail - and it would be nice to have more useful counsel on overcoming than "kicking the Man's ass." Claims about rap's political potential will look equally gestural in the future. How is it progressive to describe life as nothing but "bitches and money"? Or to tell impressionable black kids, who'd find every door open to them if they just worked hard and learned, that blowing a rival's head off is "real"? How helpful is rap's sexism in a community plagued by rampant illegitimacy and an excruciatingly low marriage rate?
 
The idea that rap is an authentic cry against oppression is all the sillier when you recall that black Americans had lots more to be frustrated about in the past but never produced or enjoyed music as nihilistic as 50 Cent or N.W.A. On the contrary, black popular music was almost always affirmative and hopeful. Nor do we discover music of such violence in places of great misery like Ethiopia or the Congounless it's imported American hip-hop.
 
Given the hip-hop world's reflexive alienation, it's no surprise that its explicit political efforts, such as they are, are hardly progressive. Simmons has founded the "Hip-Hop Summit Action Network" to bring rap stars and fans together in order to forge a "bridge between hip-hop and politics." But HSAN's policy positions are mostly tired bromides. Sticking with the long-discredited idea that urban schools fail because of inadequate funding from the stingy, racist white Establishment, for example, HSAN joined forces with the teachers' union to protest New York mayor Bloomberg's proposed education budget for its supposed lack of generosity. HSAN has also stuck it to President Bush for invading Iraq. And it has vociferously protested the affixing of advisory labels on rap CDs that warn parents about the obscene language inside. Fighting for rappers' rights to obscenity: that's some kind of revolution!
 
Okay, maybe rap isn't progressive in any meaningful sense, some observers will admit; but isn't it just a bunch of kids blowing off steam and so nothing to worry about? I think that response is too easy. With music videos, DVD players, Walkmans, the Internet, clothes, and magazines all making hip-hop an accompaniment to a person's entire existence, we need to take it more seriously. In fact, I would argue that it is seriously harmful to the black community.
 
The rise of nihilistic rap has mirrored the breakdown of community norms among inner-city youth over the last couple of decades. It was just as gangsta rap hit its stride that neighborhood elders began really to notice that they'd lost control of young black men, who were frequently drifting into lives of gang violence and drug dealing. Well into the seventies, the ghetto was a shabby part of town, where, despite unemployment and rising illegitimacy, a healthy number of people were doing their best to "keep their heads above water," as the theme song of the old black sitcom Good Times put it.
 
By the eighties, the ghetto had become a ruleless war zone, where black people were their own worst enemies. It would be silly, of course, to blame hip-hop for this sad downward spiral, but by glamorizing life in the "war zone," it has made it harder for many of the kids stuck there to extricate themselves. Seeing a privileged star like Sean Combs behave like a street thug tells those kids that there's nothing more authentic than ghetto pathology, even when you've got wealth beyond imagining.
 
The attitude and style expressed in the hip-hop "identity" keeps blacks down. Almost all hip-hop, gangsta or not, is delivered with a cocky, confrontational cadence that is fast becoming - as attested to by the rowdies at KFC - a common speech style among young black males. Similarly, the arm-slinging, hand-hurling gestures of rap performers have made their way into many young blacks' casual gesticulations, becoming integral to their self-expression. The problem with such speech and mannerisms is that they make potential employers wary of young black men and can impede a young black's ability to interact comfortably with co-workers and customers. The black community has gone through too much to sacrifice upward mobility to the passing kick of an adversarial hip-hop "identity."
 
On a deeper level, there is something truly unsettling and tragic about the fact that blacks have become the main agents in disseminating debilitating - dare I say racist - images of themselves. Rap guru Russell Simmons claims that "the coolest stuff about American culture - be it language, dress, or attitude - comes from the underclass. Always has and always will." Yet back in the bad old days, blacks often complained - with some justification - that the media too often depicted blacks simply as uncivilized. Today, even as television and films depict blacks at all levels of success, hip-hop sends the message that blacks are... uncivilized. I find it striking that the cry-racism crowd doesn't condemn it.
 
For those who insist that even the invisible structures of society reinforce racism, the burden of proof should rest with them to explain just why hip-hop's bloody and sexist lyrics and videos and the criminal behavior of many rappers wouldn't have a powerfully negative effect upon whites' conception of black people.
 
Sadly, some black leaders just don't seem to care what lesson rap conveys. Consider Savannah's black high schools, which hosted the local rapper Camoflauge as a guest speaker several times before his murder earlier this year. Here's a representative lyric:
 
Gimme tha keys to tha car, I'm ready for war. When we ride on these niggas smoke that ass like a 'gar. Hit your block with a Glock, clear the set with a Tech... You think I'm jokin, see if you laughing when tha pistol be smokin - Leave you head split wide open And you bones get broken...
 
More than a few of the Concerned Black People inviting this "artist" to speak to the impressionable youth of Savannah would presumably be the first to cry out about "how whites portray blacks in the media."
 
Far from decrying the stereotypes rampant in rap's present-day blaxploitation, many hip-hop defenders pull the "whitey-does-it-too" trick. They point to the Godfather movies or The Sopranos as proof that violence and vulgarity are widespread in American popular culture, so that singling out hip-hop for condemnation is simply bigotry. Yet such a defense is pitifully weak. No one really looks for a way of life to emulate or a political project to adopt in The Sopranos. But for many of its advocates, hip-hop, with its fantasies of revolution and community and politics, is more than entertainment. It forms a bedrock of young black identity.
 
Nor will it do to argue that hip-hop isn't "black" music, since most of its buyers are white, or because the "hip-hop revolution" is nominally open to people of all colors. That whites buy more hip-hop recordings than blacks do is hardly surprising, given that whites vastly outnumber blacks nationwide. More to the point, anyone who claims that rap isn't black music will need to reconcile that claim with the widespread wariness among blacks of white rappers like Eminem, accused of "stealing our music and giving it back to us."
 
At 2 AM on the New York subway not long ago, I saw another scene - more dispiriting than my KFC encounter with the rowdy rapping teens - that captures the essence of rap's destructiveness. A young black man entered the car and began to rap loudly - profanely, arrogantly - with the usual wild gestures. This went on for five irritating minutes. When no one paid attention, he moved on to another car, all the while spouting his doggerel. This was what this young black man presented as his message to the world - his oratory, if you will.
 
Anyone who sees such behavior as a path to a better future - anyone, like Professor Dyson, who insists that hip-hop is an urgent "critique of a society that produces the need for the thug persona" - should step back and ask himself just where, exactly, the civil rights era blacks might have gone wrong in lacking a hip-hop revolution. They created the world of equality, striving, and success I live and thrive in.
 
Hip-hop creates nothing.
 
Copyright The Manhattan Institute
http://www.city-journal.org/html/13_3_how_hip_hop.html


I don't agree with that guy's last statement just some of his valid points. Here's some hip-hop that's as great as any song ever written by anyone, is as realistic as any stupid-ass gangsta rap pretending to 'realness' by over-the-top minstrelism,  and conveys a complex, un-preaching message that happens to be positive despite the hardness at its core.

[youtube:29roli9r]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTA9vCGD3CQ[/youtube]29roli9r]



Eric B And Rakim
No Omega

I'm the Alpha with no Omega
Beginning without the end so play the
eye inside no extended version
Next episode be smooth as a Persian
Rhyme everlastin there'll be no part two
Knowledge is infinite once I start to draw
a better picture for your third eye if you're blind
You know with a mic I'm a black Michaelangelo
I'm the brother who ideas are colorful
Givin em insight but givin em trouble to
comprehend cause they thoughts won't blend in
They're pretendin, while I'm extendin
You bite like a parasite, ? you attacks
But you won't strike, cause you ain't no match
You need more light cause yours got dim
Then you get sparked by the Lord Rakim
What's the matter G, check your battery
Go get charged up, then come battle me
You try hard and Die Hard, you ain't Eveready
When they check the pulse, you'll be +Dead+ as +Freddie+
Sharper spears for new ideas
Check your engine and ask your engineers
to equalize, try to disguise it
If that don't work yo, then monosize it
You need more power, better bring Battlecat
But this ain't Grayskull, and you ain't rippin jack
Don't drop the mic and jet for your tooley
("Bring it to me!")
We can go rhyme for rhyme til the mic stop the workin
Then I'ma leave you behind the Iron Curtain
and you'll remain backstage
Your book is over, I ripped your last page
Changed the endin, at least you went out rappin
Now I'ma tell em what happened
I filled the mic with explosives, and lit it up
It was too heavy to hold, he couldn't pick it up
Pass the mic, let him try to get paid
He hit the stage, it went off like a hand grenade
Now scrape him off the floor and off my list
I ain't a soloist, I'm an arsonist
Sprayed up, he said he was gonna do what?
Played up, MC Grand but Pooh-Butt
Stole his lady, and drove her crazy
You asked me why - cause her man tried to play me
I sent her back a nervous wreck
and tried to put her back in check
My speciality is masterin the female species
I specialize in her, until she sees
where I come from, and why I came
I tame the train til she manifest my name
Fill her with life until she burst with energy
Then leave her restless, cause a lot of women be
tryin to drain us, and leave us stripped dry
Put holes in our pocket, but you ain't that fly
I clipped your wings and bring you down to Earth
and tell you what life is worth
It ain't rings and things that's materialistic
You wanna pip on, imperialist with
food for thought, cause I'm the shelter
I'll be your clothes, keep you warm and help ya
not to be hot to trot by a haunt
And why do y'all got to flaunt?
("You gotta use what you got
to get what you want")
Cool, I heat you up like a black mink coat
Hug your neck like a fat gold rope
Words I speak and my DJ's cuts will warm ya ears
like mink earmuffs
So Eric show em how fast your hand'sll go
so the people in the stands'll know
that you don't scratch your cuts in the grave
Moves in waves to my rhyme displays
Float, evoke, my tempo jets
Expressions express when you kick steps
Keep em, energetic, so let it
pound in your head til what I said is embedded
Don't forget it's copastetic, set it
Anywhere you want your poetry's pathetic
You gets.. no.. credit.. til you get it straight
Let's motivate
No intermissions cause it ain't commercial
If you wanna break then I'll reimburse you
I won't let go so my mic won't drop, cause
("I can't.. stop!")
Vocabs is endless, vocals exist
Rhyme goes on, so no one can stop this
Especially when I start to say the
rhymes with no omega
No omega
No omega
("I can't.. stop!")
("I can't.. stop!")
("I can't.. stop!") *scratched*
("I can't.. stop!")
("I can't.. stop!")
("I can't.. stop!")
("I can't.. stop!") *scratched*
("I can't.. stop!")
("I can't.. stop!")
("I can't.. stop!")
("I can't.. stop!")
("I can't.. stop!") *fades

No Omega
I'm the Alpha, with no Omega
Beginning without the, end so play the
eye inside, no extended version
Next episode be smooth as a Persian
Rhyme everlastin, there'll be no part two
Knowledge is infinite, once I start to draw
a better picture for your third eye, if you're blind
You know with a mic, I'm a black Michaelangelo
I'm the brother whoSE ideas are colorful
Givin em insight, but givin em trouble to
comprehend cause they thoughts won't blend in
They're pretendin, while I'm extendin
You bite like a parasite, ? you attacks
But you won't strike, cause you ain't no match
You need more light cause yours got dim
Then you get sparked by the Lord Rakim
What's the matter G, check your battery
Go get charged up, then come battle me
You try hard and Die Hard, you ain't Eveready
When they check the pulse, you'll be +Dead+ as
+Freddie+
SHOP AT SEARS for new ideas
Check your engine and ask your engineers
to equalize, try to disguise it
If that don't work yo, then MIDASIZE it
You need more power, better bring Battlecat
But this ain't Grayskull, and you ain't rippin jack
Don't drop the mic and jet for your tooley
("Bring it to me!")
We can go rhyme for rhyme til the mic stop the
workin
Then I'ma leave you behind the Iron Curtain
and you'll remain backstage
Your book is over, I ripped your last page
Changed the endin, at least you went out rappin
Now I'ma tell em what happened
I filled the mic with explosives, and lit it up
It was too heavy to hold, he couldn't pick it up
Pass the mic, let him try to get paid
He hit the stage, it went off like a hand grenade
Now scrape him off the floor and off my list
I ain't a soloist, I'm an arsonist
Sprayed up, he said he was gonna do what?
Played up, MC Grand but Pooh-Butt
Stole his lady, and drove her crazy
You asked me why - cause her man tried to play me
I sent her back a nervous wreck
and tried to put her back in check
My speciality is masterin the female species
I specialize in her, until she sees
where I come from, and why I came
I tame the train til she manifest my name
Fill her with life until she burst with energy
Then leave her restless, cause a lot of women be
tryin to drain us, and leave us stripped dry
Put holes in our pocket, but you ain't that fly
I clipped your wings and bring you down to Earth
and tell you what life is worth
It ain't rings and things that's materialistic
You wanna pip on, imperialist with
food for thought, cause I'm the shelter
I'll be your clothes, keep you warm and help ya
not to be hot to trot by a haunt
And why do y'all got to flaunt?
("You gotta use what you got
to get what you want")
Cool, I heat you up like a black mink coat
Hug your neck like a fat gold rope
Words I speak and my DJ's cuts will warm ya ears
like mink earmuffs
So Eric show em how fast your hand'sll go
so the people in the stands'll know
that you don't scratch your cuts in the grave
Moves in waves to my rhyme displays
Float, evoke, my tempo jets
Expressions express when you kick steps
Keep em, energetic, so let it
pound in your head til what I said is embedded
Don't forget it's copastetic, set it
Anywhere you want your poetry's pathetic
You gets.. no.. credit.. til you get it straight
Let's motivate
No intermissions cause it ain't commercial
If you wanna break then I'll reimburse you
I won't let go so my mic won't drop, cause
("I can't.. stop!")
Vocabs is endless, vocals exist
Rhyme goes on, so no one can stop this
Especially when I start to say the
rhymes with no omega
No omega
No omega
("I can't.. stop!")
("I can't.. stop!")
("I can't.. stop!") *scratched*
("I can't.. stop!")
("I can't.. stop!")
("I can't.. stop!")
("I can't.. stop!") *scratched*
("I can't.. stop!")
("I can't.. stop!")
("I can't.. stop!")
("I can't.. stop!")
("I can't.. stop!") *fades*



The term Alpha and Omega comes from the phrase "I am the alpha and the omega" (Koiné Greek: τὸ Α καὶ τὸ Ω), an appellation of Jesus[1] in the Book of Revelation (verses 1:8, 21:6, and 22:13).

In the Book of Revelation, it reads "I am the Alpha and Omega, the first and the last."[2]. The first part of this phrase ("I am the Alpha and Omega") is first found in Chapter 1 verse 8, and is found in every manuscript of Revelation that has 1v8. Several later manuscripts repeat "I am the Alpha and Omega" in 1v11 too, but it does not receive support here from most of the oldest manuscripts, including the Alexandrine, Sinaitic, and Codex Ephraemi Rescriptus. It is, therefore, omitted in some modern translations. Scholar Robert Young stated, with regards to "I am the Alpha and Omega" in 1v11, that the "oldest MSS. omit" it.[3]

[axa0176]

Negentropic,

What I'm saying is that we really don't know the majority of our history and it would be crazy to assume every civilization left written records for us to peruse through.  I mean if the whole nation was destroyed what makes you think their libraries would stay intact?

In all the years of mankind's history, there's gotta be the majority that hasn't even survived record.

Admittedly, as a Muslim I'm coming at it from an Islamic perspective:


Chapter Mary, verse 98:

 " And how many a generation before them have We destroyed! Can you  find a single one of them or hear even a whisper of them? "

[axa0176]

All of us get duped from time to time.  Even Farrakhan an Malcolm-X get duped;  Mecca with it's idolatrous black asteroid worship, is not the city of Mohamed's pilgrimage, Jerusalem is;  It's no wonder that the Saudi Royal Family are nothing but a nest of crypto-Jews.

So where did you get the idea that Muslims worship a black rock?

[asianlion7]

So where did you get the idea that Muslims worship a black rock?

The prophet Mohamed fought violently against pagan Arabs in his own tribe that worshiped the black stone. Ironically Muslims who are not supposed to worship idols, are bowing in front it in Mecca.

A bunch of Jews that made a pact with Mohamed decided to double cross him instead and support the pagan Arabs that worshiped the rock;  In the end, all of Mohamed's enemies got their ass kicked.

Aramaic/Syriac is the ancestor language of Arabic.  The arabic word "Allah" is mutated from the Syriac word "Alaha", which simply means The God.  A lot of so called Christians aim to vilify muslims claiming Allah is a moon god, which is false.  The word "Allat" refers to the moon god.

Abraham made fun of his own father for worshiping idols that can't hear, see, feel, harm or help.

The Saudi Royal family are crypto-Jews.  I had a pretty good link about Saudi Royal crypto jews, that magically disappeared but I found this one again.

It amazes me how so many muslims can bow in front of that Idol when it states in their own booK the Quran:

"[4:48] GOD does not forgive idolatry,* but He forgives lesser offenses for whomever He wills. Anyone who sets up idols beside GOD, has forged a horrendous offense."

http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=164916650980



When you know who is running the show, it makes sense why the Saudis are so full of shit.

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

The Saudi Royal family are crypto-Jews.  I had a pretty good link about Saudi Royal crypto jews, that magically disappeared but I found this one again.

http://just-another-inside-job.blogspot ... rabia.html

[thirdeyewise]

The Saudi Royal family are crypto-Jews.  I had a pretty good link about Saudi Royal crypto jews, that magically disappeared but I found this one again.

http://just-another-inside-job.blogspot ... rabia.html

[youtube:rfi4h6or]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tVQ5NNBFhc[/youtube]rfi4h6or]
[youtube:rfi4h6or]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-RWTT-ASWw[/youtube]rfi4h6or]

Your big thing has always been to try and prove that so and so & such and such is controlled opposition; you want to prove that everyone's controlled opposition and there is not and has never been legitimate opposition to the Jew mafia. I haven't seen you doing much else since I've been on this forum as far as I can remember. I'm not trying to be critical of you but, I mean, it seems like such a waste of time.

Check me off.

By the way, I have a friend who is Sunni Muslim & when I sent him this link he claimed it was a Shia smear tactic against Sunnis.

[asianlion7]

By the way, I have a friend who is Sunni Muslim & when I sent him this link he claimed it was a Shia smear tactic against Sunnis.

It is forbidden in the Quran to have any sect whatsoever.  How many islamic sects are there today? Ask your Sunni friend why does he belong to the Sunni sect when the prophet forbid sects? I bet he'll just get defensive and angry then make no sense.

Quran
[6:159] Those who divide themselves into sects do not belong with
you. Their judgment rests with GOD, then He will inform
them of everything they had done.

[30:32] (Do not fall in idol worship,) like those who divide
their religion into sects; each party rejoicing with what they have.

[42:14] Ironically, they broke up into sects only after the
knowledge had come to them, due to jealousy and
resentment among themselves. If it were not for a
predetermined decision from your Lord to respite them for
a definite interim, they would have been judged
immediately. Indeed, the later generations who inherited
the scripture are full of doubts.

[Whaler]

More inspirational music from Whaler's childhood.  :crazy:  :crazy:

I could have used more supervision  :roll:

[youtube:3dfbzm5l]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zxQSc5OLns[/youtube]3dfbzm5l]

[Fester]

Very interesting video!  Much appreciated.