Why was the George Carlin topic locked?

[clark-kent]

Just wondering? I thought the guy was funny, that's all I'm gonna say.

[Roy Hobs]

Clark-kent..............what is the meaning/intent of the "Jesus" icon/sign on your Signature?  

Are you mocking the whole WWJD bracelet phenomena???

[joeblow]

Please, please, we're all friends here. I myself, being a Muslim, have always despised how people in the West put down Jesus s.a.w.s., but I fully understand that it is the fault of the Jew (taught by that shit-stained book the Talmud). When I see this pic, I try to avert my eyes and I didn't want to point it out in the hope that he would eventually change it.

[Roy Hobs]

The Irony with people's understanding of a 'Jesus' comes from people who think they are christians.

If you just read the New Testament, an ENTIRELY different picture of Jesus emerges.  

Just read the books considered, or called the "gospels" --  Matthew; Mark; Luke and John.

An entirely different picture emerges.

Don't judge the person of Jesus based on what you see presently.  

Because of the way in which so called 'christians' have warped the view of Jesus, I can't judge Clark-kent for his mis-use of the image.  

I just hope Clark-kent gives him a fair analysis based on the Gospels.  


I also wonder why the "George Carlin" Post was locked??  

anyone?

[Anonymous]

Jesus may or may not have existed.  Look into the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Qumran/Essene community about their Teacher of Righteousness.  He was against the temple Judaism, for him it was a fraud, but to them he was a heretic.  He saw these Pharisees/Sadduccees as perversions of Judaism.  He was hung from a tree on some hill somewhere.  I don't remember the specifics.  In all likely hood, the Jesus character was moulded from the Teacher after the fall of mainstream garbage Judaism and the sacking of Qumran in 67-70CE.  Notice how it is pretty much in agreement amongst all Biblical scholars that the first gospels were only written 40 years after Jesus' death.. 70 CE... make up your own mind.  The NT teachings are good, good philosophy of life.

That's all I will say.

MikeWB locked the thread, you will have to get a response from him.

Peace.

[clark-kent]

sorry about that, changing it right after this response, I don't want to offend just instruct on the ludicrousness of most religious thought ,I'm not an atheist but here in the states I have to deal with fundamentalist Christians who pervade the culture, most of you know they like having Israel back because they think it fulfills prophecy and they can have Armageddon here sooner..great...and that's just the start, but that's off topic, maybe another thread to start after I get home from work.


So George Carlin...maybe canard was a little harsh but it was timely with his death and there was a genuine disagreement over him,he was a subject we could have as an object lesson on gatekeepers if we can keep it civil.

I will always try to talk things out in a reasonable way and look at other opinions, I know I'm not 100% right on all things. I come here to learn.

So MikeWB why the locking of the thread?

[MikeWB]

Because that was a shit thread that served absolutely no purpose. Someone coming in would think this forum is full of idiots for acting that way.

Stay civilized people... that's our only way to remain credible and ONLY way for someone to take your views seriously. The way Canard talked about a man that just passed away is disrespectful and uncalled for. He's totally wrong about Carlin. Last person that tried to say something against them was Mel Gibson and look what happened to his career. Carlin was no fool.

And Canard, if you're reading this, please remain civilized. I know how you feel and I know you have a short fuse but please remain civilized and put these rants on your blog or something. This is primarily research forum and we can't win the infowar with those kinds of statements.

[SOulJOURNey]

Yay! Someone who sees logic. lol

Not saying any of you don't. Referring to the logic that I was following.

[Canard]

Because that was a shit thread that served absolutely no purpose. Someone coming in would think this forum is full of idiots for acting that way.

Stay civilized people... that's our only way to remain credible and ONLY way for someone to take your views seriously. The way Canard talked about a man that just passed away is disrespectful and uncalled for. He's totally wrong about Carlin. Last person that tried to say something against them was Mel Gibson and look what happened to his career. Carlin was no fool.

And Canard, if you're reading this, please remain civilized. I know how you feel and I know you have a short fuse but please remain civilized and put these rants on your blog or something. This is primarily research forum and we can't win the infowar with those kinds of statements.

To my dear friends, the TIU community I sincerely apologize for my rant. I'm Sorry if I said fuck too many times guys, its all Og's (and formerly HHQ's, we miss ya buddy, consider coming back or just saying hi) righteous indignation on the podcasts, its a bad habit whatever, Carlin pissed me off.  He was worse then 1000 Right Wing Zionist extremists.  

Im TOTALLY wrong about Carlin?  Are you able to substantiate that with evidence that he was aware of the jewish problem and was actively fighting it?  If I can be shown the errors in my research I would happily look into it.

Please go back and read my thread and watch the video in there, it speaks for itself.  MIKEWB I dont know that I have a short fuse, please don't make characterizations such as that about me.  Perhaps my use of the term racetraitor was also not very tactful, but I feel he shit on Europeans and especially the Irish with his career which imo amounted to nothing more then protectionism.  

I have to also take issue that your concern is new readers, is this board for current members or new ones yet to join.  Og has stated to me and in his shows, quality not quantity.  Do I really need to watch my tongue SO much around you guys?  This is a shock to me and perhaps the communication breakdown which led to this unfortunate event.

Ill disagree it was a 'shit thread' and without offense I think some of your posts are detrimental to the goals we all share here.  I'm not trying to attack you but I feel its a fair appraisal and I am being civilized.  I am bringing up what I see here as a double standard where some people are allowed to "rant" while others - such as myself - are not. Your attack on Maxwell for example is the type of thing I'm referring to, I'm not in his fan club, but he's actually taught me quite a lot, he is an expert on ancient world practices, Og has used his research, as have I and many others on this board.  
Isn't saying; "Maxwell's a f'n idiot. Completely BATSHIT INSANE man!" doing the exact same thing you are accusing me of in my first post even if it is shorter version of the same thing?  


Also my thread was developing into something.  I'm not a mod I don't have the ability to close them down and censor the line of discussion, perhaps this thread can remedy that and we can discuss the subject; George Carlin was or was not a gatekeeper.  I hardly ever make new threads, I'm shocked my thread had such a strong effect and needed to be shut down.  I'm not sure what your concern is regarding me I would fathom perhaps I don't endorse DBS 100%, beware the cult of personality.  I thought this sites intent was to discuss and expose jewish criminality please inform me if I am wrong.


We are all here to do the same thing, expose these guys, and I didnt consider Carlin to be a great person, so I expressed my perception of the man. Let's move on to more productive issues. Lastly I'd like to thank Og and the departed HHQ for having the balls and foresight to start this board, its one of the only places to freely exchange ideas about a very important issue of vast implications.

[Anonymous]

My 2cents: Carlin was a jerk, and I would have much more respect for someone like AJ dying than him.

Peace.

[SOulJOURNey]

I thought this sites intent was to discuss and expose jewish criminality please inform me if I am wrong.

You are. If that were the case, the site would probably be called Zionist Crime Information Underground, or some such catchy phrase to indicate such a goal. As it stands, TRUTH is the goal, and as such, to concentrate on one particular aspect more-so than other possibilities is utterly contradictory to the expressed goal. This is yet another reason as to why I find this site to be a little lost in the wind. Too much attention is paid to the Jewish angle, that it would appear there is a great deal being missed by the majority of those who frequent here.

It is a problem in my personal opinion.

[Anonymous]

You say there are things being missed, but you never specifically state it.  Please stop being so vague and inform us of the exact specifics that you are disconcerted about.  Thank you.  As for the intention of TIU, only those who created, Og and HHQ can say for certain what the information underground was intended to be about.  In the present state, the contributing members are the ones who make up the content.  There are several categories that anyone can contribute to.  It doesn't have to be "Jew" only as you may perceive it.  If you have a specific issue you want to discuss in private, please contact Og about it and voice you opinion with the remaining founder.

Peace.

[Roy Hobs]

I'd like to just remind everyone that Canard's Post regarding Carlin was designatated for the "Off Lounge".  

If we can't have a place to vent our frustrations and feelings, than I may as well join the local YMCA and play basketball after a hard day.  

I'm still sane because of this site.  

Let's not forget that even though we are all striving to uncover the truth and expose the criminals, sometimes we all need to just feel human and relate to other humans who think as we do.

I don't know about the rest of you......................but I have ZERO friends.  ZERO!  

I do not know "personally" one person of flesh and blood.  I don't personally know Canard but I can sleep at night knowing someone else shares my emotions; feelings etc..

So..............thanks for the Post Canard.

[Anonymous]

I can agree with you Roy, on two points: 1.  It was the Off Lounge.  2. About the friends LOL, the people I know don't acre about the things I care about... so are they friends?... hmmmm

[Roy Hobs]

I understand "friendship" to be almost like brotherhood.  Friendship is 'approval'; mutual interests and beliefs.

An acquaintance is someone you know through work or through a common interest.

I have many "acquaintances" through my job and common interests.  

I have ZERO friendships with those of like minds.

And that goes for even family.  In fact I really don't have family anymore because they all have shunned me/marginalized me.  


Just the way I see it.

[sullivan]

You are. If that were the case, the site would probably be called Zionist Crime Information Underground, or some such catchy phrase to indicate such a goal. As it stands, TRUTH is the goal, and as such, to concentrate on one particular aspect more-so than other possibilities is utterly contradictory to the expressed goal.  This is yet another reason as to why I find this site to be a little lost in the wind. Too much attention is paid to the Jewish angle, that it would appear there is a great deal being missed by the majority of those who frequent here.

You know what, if it were five or more years ago, I would have agreed with you wholeheartedly. While I was very much aware of Zionist criminality, I had no idea of its extent and its all encompassing influence on our world. Since then, I discovered that every issue that would be of concern to any sane person...  inevitably has a strong Jewish element, whether it is the manufacture of meth or ecstasy that is destroying lives, the fraudulent banking system that is thieving the product of our labour, the pop-psychology that is tearing families apart, the educational reforms that are turning our children into morons. With very few exceptions, everywhere I looked, I found kosher fingerprints.  That does not mean that all criminality is Jewish, not by any means, but a sizable proportion of it is, far more than the demographics would suggest.  It also doesn't mean that all Jewish people are criminals. However, discussion of Jewish criminality and its origins in the utterly vile Talmud are very much central topics of discussion here. Contrary to what you claim, I don't think it gets half as much attention as it merits.

You are of course free to contribute by bringing the 'great deal being missed' to the table.

[Roy Hobs]

In response to SoulJourney --
"You are of course free to contribute by bringing the 'great deal being missed' to the table."


I too am eagerly awaiting Soul Journey's version of the "who" behind what we are now witnessing on this planet.  Feel free to enlighten us anytime you wish Soul Journey.

[SOulJOURNey]

I think you need to take a step back and rethink your approach. There is no need to patronize me. I was not speaking vaguely, I was rather speaking in generals. What this means is you have to look at things objectively. Stop looking at the tree so close you miss the forest kind of thing. To focus on the Jewish angle only is to search for only one truth. This is a known and widely accepted reality that not enough people give due credit.

The Jewish angle is nothing more than a tentacle on a squid, if you will. I'm sure I don't need to give a long list of credible sources for people to agree with that statement.

The only point I was trying to make is a very simple one: stop limiting yourselves. There was no speaking in code or vagueness present. I said exactly that, in so many words.

And funny enough, all of that actually answers your question, because it is this specific concept that appears to elude a lot of you. Yet again, however, I did mention this previously, so there really should have been no need for me to repeat it, if perhaps you were paying attention.

Need I remind you all also, that the so called Jews we are all talking about and studying so adamantly aren't even Jews to begin with? Why then, are we so concerned with Jews? And why then, if we are so concerned with calling them what they are, are we calling them Jews? They aren't Jews.

[sullivan]

I think you need to take a step back and rethink your approach. There is no need to patronize me. I was not speaking vaguely, I was rather speaking in generals. What this means is you have to look at things objectively. Stop looking at the tree so close you miss the forest kind of thing. To focus on the Jewish angle only is to search for only one truth. This is a known and widely accepted reality that not enough people give due credit.

The Jewish angle is nothing more than a tentacle on a squid, if you will. I'm sure I don't need to give a long list of credible sources for people to agree with that statement.

To use your squid analogy, Jewish influence makes up a sizeable number of the tentacles, and also accounts for the most dangerous part of the squid - the beak  (seriously, no pun intended).

The only point I was trying to make is a very simple one: stop limiting yourselves. There was no speaking in code or vagueness present. I said exactly that, in so many words.

Most contributors here are not limiting themselves, but are also not going to pretend that a large part of the problem is just a mere trifle.

Need I remind you all also, that the so called Jews we are all talking about and studying so adamantly aren't even Jews to begin with? Why then, are we so concerned with Jews? And why then, if we are so concerned with calling them what they are, are we calling them Jews? They aren't Jews.

Their actual ethnicity is not the issue. Anyway, even though they are not genetically Semite and thus truly Jewish, their belief system most certainly is, or at least it is that of the majority of Jewry. That belief system is the root cause of the problem. Whether or not they profess religious belief, their mindset is born directly from the ideas expressed in the Talmud, ideas that encourage  destruction, promote supremacism and celebrate evil.

[SOulJOURNey]

Their beliefs aren't even Jewish beliefs. You should do some more digging.

[kolnidre]

I am of mixed minds on Carlin. He got it, at least to the extent he knew that the materialism we're bombarded with and the financial and political systems are a scam. In all fairness, he wasn't an academic lecturer or polemicist, so as a comedian if he couldn't get people to think that, 'Yeah, things are fucked up, I wonder why - or who's behind it?' then it's their fault for not engaging their gray matter. Putting myself in his position, I'd like to think I'd attempt to expose the criminals, but when you're in that kind of position you're swimming in a culture created by the purveyors of the agenda. One false move and you could be out of work in a hurry, and your platform for any criticism is essentially gonzo.

I'll always remember him for his bit on "stuff." Must have been 25 years ago when I first heard it. That said a lot in itself.

It's good to see these issues tossed around and pondered here. Perhaps they could be expanded in another free-for-all thread. We've got sub-themes like who's at the top, what are the tentacles, who Carlin was and what he knew and did, and who has any real friends in this world all going on here.

When approaching these issues I try to remind myself not to act like those with whom I have a problem, i.e. not get all tribal and only engage in navel gazing.

On a personal note, my dad and I are waking up together. He's turning out to be my truest friend and ally, and it's a head-spinning experience. We send each other Web links and share book reading suggestions, then discuss them over e-mail or Skype. Our brains work so differently that for me it's like reading the books over twice, since I assimilate on an intuitive level, like an underground pool, and he grasps subtle details.

I see a really great separate topic here. Gotta go to work, but maybe I can get it started from there.

[Canard]

good post kol, you are right there are a number of topics to get into.  Sullivan way to get to the marrow of the matter, its not even about those other meaingless details, its just about pointing out fore example; THAT GUY, THAT GUY RIGHT THERE, IS THE GUY WHO ROBBED THE BANK.  You gotta call them something, why not use what they call themselves?  I believe prothink has said the same, and he's right. He's got a good video on his main page now and a cool new redesign on the layout.

[sullivan]

Their beliefs aren't even Jewish beliefs. You should do some more digging.

Their beliefs are the beliefs of the majority of world Jewry, with the exception of some Torah-only jews and a few reformed synagogues.  Their origin may not be from Judea, or even what is falsely considered 'Israel' these days, but the fact remains that the Talmud is the supreme religious text for the majority of practising jews, and a major influence on the mindset of those who are not religious.

[Canard]

My research has found the same conclusions Sullivan.

[SOulJOURNey]

If you do a bit of research into this issue, you will soon discover that most orthodox jews (real jews omg!) do not accept the Talmud as Jewish text. It wasn't created by the Jewish community. It was written by the Khazars. So they aren't following a Jewish Faith.

[joeblow]

SJ, I wasn't going to reply to this thread, because it's obvious that you will or can't actually supply any facts to back up your position. This position, which is shared by the majority of the "truth-movement", that the majority of Jews are non-supportive of Talmudism is laughably false and nothing more than wishful-thinking. Anyone who has spent more than a few months researching the issue of the New Jew Order from all the different activist groups on the net has to admit that the overwhelming majority of those in charge, and who are destroying all things Goyische, are filthy, dirty, Satanic, non-human J E W S.

Even this last post is patently false. Orthodox Jews spend literly every waking moment studying that shit-stained book of lies and it existed well before the Khazars.

Truth about the Talmud: Racist, Rabbinic Hate Literature: http://www.revisionisthistory.org/talmudtruth.html
Oral Law: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmud#Oral_law

If you disagree, don't use emotionalism, give me times/places/people. This is a research forum, not a ConCen Spirituality-UFO-Reptiliod-Jesuit dream den.

[Anonymous]

Quite true Joe, but one thing you are wrong about, is the aspect of taking more than a few months to figure it out.  All you need is a few hours looking at "Jewish" sources.  Allow me inform those who claim we need to "do a bit of research into this issue", when the opposite is the truth (i.e. they need to do more research).

What is the Torah?  You will here many who simply say they study the Torah.  Originally the Torah was the Tanakh or Pentateuch, but the meaning has changed to include all Jewish Law is many circles, that being the Written and Oral Law is the Torah for many.  Additionally, many refer to them as the Written Torah and Oral Torah.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jso ... n_Law.html

The Written Law consists of the books of the Hebrew Bible, the Tanakh. The term "Bible" is more commonly used by non-Jews, as are the terms "Old Testament" and "New Testament." The appropriate term for Jews to use for the Hebrew Bible is "Tanakh." Tanakh is an acronym for Torah,  Nevi'im (Prophets) and Ketuvim (Writings).

The Torah is also known as the Chumash, Pentateuch or Five Books of Moses. The word "Torah" has the following meanings:

1. A scroll made from kosher animal parchment, with the entire text of the Five Books of Moses written in it by a sofer [ritual scribe]. This is the most limited definition.

2. More often, this term means the text of the Five Books of Moses, written in any format, whether Torah scroll, paperback book, CD­ROM, sky­writing or any other media. Any printed version of the Torah (with or without commentary) can be called a Chumash or Pentateuch; however, one never refers to a Torah Scroll as a Chumash.

3. The term "Torah" can mean the entire corpus of Jewish law. This includes the Written and the Oral Law, which includes the Mishna, the Midrash, the Talmud and even later day legal commentaries. This definition of Torah is probably the most common among Orthodox Jews. Usually you can figure out which definition is being used by the context.

So now those who claim that "most orthodox jews (real jews omg!) do not accept the Talmud as Jewish text", is quite wrong.  This is not to say some reject the Talmud, but most accept it as part of "Jewish" Law.


As for the ignorant claim that the Talmud "wasn't created by the Jewish community" and that it "was written by the Khazars", is also wrong.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jso ... ishna.html

This decline in the number of knowledgeable Jews seems to have been a decisive factor in Rabbi Judah the Prince's decision around the year 200 C.E.  to record in writing the Oral Law. For centuries, Judaism's  leading rabbis had resisted writing down the Oral Law. Teaching the law orally, the rabbis knew, compelled students to maintain close relationships with teachers, and they considered teachers, not books, to be the best conveyors of the Jewish tradition. But with the deaths of so many teachers in the failed revolts, Rabbi Judah apparently feared that the Oral Law would be forgotten unless it were written down.

"Jewish" sources on the importance of the Talmud:

http://jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp? ... rch=talmud

Used alone, the word "Talmud" generally denotes "Talmud Babli," but it frequently serves as a generic designation for an entire body of literature, since the Talmud marks the culmination of the writings of Jewish tradition, of which it is, from a historical point of view, the most important production.

...

After the completion of the Talmud as a work of literature, it exercised a twofold influence as a historical factor in the history of Judaism and its followers, not only in regard to the guidance and formulation of religious life and thought, but also with respect to the awakening and development of intellectual activity. As a document of religion the Talmud acquired that authority which was due to it as the written embodiment of the ancient tradition, and it fulfilled the task which the men of the Great Assembly set for the representatives of the tradition when they said, "Make a hedge for the Torah" (Ab. i. 2). Those who professed Judaism felt no doubt that the Talmud was equal to the Bible as a source of instruction and decision in problems of religion, and every effort to set forth religious teachings and duties was based on it; so that even the great systematic treatise of Maimonides, which was intended to supersede the Talmud, only led to a more thorough study of it.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jso ... ishna.html

Among religious Jews, talmudic scholars are regarded with the same awe and respect with which secular society regards Nobel laureates. Yet throughout Jewish history, study of the Mishna and Talmud was hardly restricted to an intellectual elite. An old book saved from the millions burned by the Nazis, and now housed at the YIVO library in New York, bears the stamp THE SOCIETY OF WOODCHOPPERS FOR THE STUDY OF MISHNA IN BERDITCHEV. That the men who chopped wood in Berditchev, an arduous job that required no literacy, met regularly to study Jewish law demonstrates the ongoing pervasiveness of study of the Oral Law in the Jewish community.

Despite the praise for its "ethics" and yada yada of it's greatness, if you actually go read it you will see how bad it is.  Non-"Jewish" sources exposing the Talmud do a great job, but even Benjamin Freedman who was ex-"Jewish" chose to do so as well.

There are many non-"Jewish" resources to learn the ACTUAL truth that the "Jewish" sources won't tell you.  Even rabbis have come out to express the supreme importance of the Talmud over the Torah!  You can find it if you truly seek to understand.

One thing I will agree with Soul about, is "So they aren't following a Jewish Faith."  Indeed, they are not following the ancient "Jewish" faith that began with the Pentateuch.  But it has evolved from Pharisaism, to Talmudism, and is now known as Judaism.  There is no need to be offended by being ignorant, we all are, and we will always be ignorant of many things.  Taking the step to admit you are wrong is important and then you can progress forward in learning.  Please do more research before telling us we need to because you perceive us to be possibly "hating" "Jews" or improperly thinking of them as "Jews".  

I would have to say they are not true "Jews", but try telling them that... Judaism is what it is for many now because of Pharisee control and the introduction of the Talmud.  What other term would you recommend we call them?  I use "Jew" (in quotes) in labelling them for the past few weeks for that reason, and for the additional reason that the word "Jew" is an incorrect noun (to which the accompanying "Jewish" is an incorrect adjective), so the quotes serve a two-fold meaning for me.

Peace.

P.S.
general - adjective
3 : not confined by specialization or careful limitation

vague - adjective
1 a : not clearly expressed  : stated in indefinite terms

So when you say, Soul, there is a "great deal being missed", but you refrain in every post from attempting to inform us, you are in fact being vague and eluding the issue.  If you feel there is a problem in focusing on only the "Jewish" question, all you need to do is actively participate in other sections and discuss these "missing" topics, which you have yet to do, but rather choose to use our focus on the exposing the "Jewish" question as a form of justification for your lack of participation.  So please, engage TIU in the information you wish, but actually do it instead of remaining on this one thread trying to prove a false-perception you have.

[Canard]

It is also important to note guys that The Jewish Encyclopedia tells us that "Edom is modern Jewry".

[sullivan]

If you do a bit of research into this issue, you will soon discover that most orthodox jews (real jews omg!) do not accept the Talmud as Jewish text. It wasn't created by the Jewish community. It was written by the Khazars. So they aren't following a Jewish Faith.

Bullshit. The Babylonian Talmud was not written by the Khazars.  It was written long before they decided to join the tribe.  The Talmud is the most important religious text for the majority of those in the Jewish faith.  Very few rely on the written law and the books of the Pentateuch alone. I see others have already given you copious evidence contradicting your erroneous and unsubstantiated statement, so I won't bother repeating what they have written.  I will, however, ask you once again to bring those "things we have missed" to the table so they can be discussed. Are you up to that challenge?

[SOulJOURNey]

Funny how the bible is the most important religious text to those of the Christian faith, all of whom accept it as part of Christian Law, and it wasn't written by Christians. hmm...need me to spoon feed you all the facts on that, or are we at least all on the same page in that regard?

At any rate, I'm done with this conversation. Feel righteous in the acknowledgment of your triumph, for I produced no factual evidence to support any of my claims. I honestly can't be assed to do so in such an encounter as this.

The fact is, I could be completely wrong, but even without having all the facts in front of me 24/7 for the advantage of always being prepared for random demands of proof, there is undeniable evidence to support the fact that most people who think they are dead on, rarely are in these respects.

That being stated, I'm not even going to attempt to defend my ideas, as their validity truly only effects my experience. I do know that the majority of the people in the world, this website not excluded, are foolish and sheepish in nature, regardless of whether they are able to admit it to themselves, let alone a group of peers. (In no way is this a direct or even general attack on anyone registered here) Need factual evidence of this? The world was flat once upon a time. I do believe it took a great deal of debate to change that ideal. Need more? There are people who know of these dire times for religion (with the evidence coming out that religions are all a farce), and yet, many who have this knowledge continue to blindly follow and worship. Undoubtedly, some of you are guilty of just such a description. This is not emotionalism. Simply because someone states a view without presenting an iron clad case does not make that an example of emotionalism. I'm pretty sure the first guy to say the world couldn't possibly be flat wasn't able to produce undeniable evidence to support his claim.

Look into Mystery Babylon, and the people who worshiped Ekin Aiton (spelling is most likely wrong), and the Illuminati, the Assassins, etc etc etc...and tell me that a group of people (Khazar Jews) who have only been in existence a fraction of the time that all of this has been going on are the main threat and the masterminds behind it all. I honestly don't see how someone with common sense could actually do so.

It's kind of like trying to say that Bush planned 9/11 with a straight face. What I have come to know in my research is that all religions, with no exception, came from one: Sun Worship. That would include the Jewish religion. The Talmud is a product of Sun Worship just the same as any other religious text you crack open. Sun Worship happens to be the worship of the Intellect. Worship of the Intellect happens to be represented through worship of the serpent. The serpent happens to be a symbol representing Satan. All of this is probably common knowledge to at least a few of you, so I wonder why in conversations such as these, these facts don't come up as pertinent when discussing the origins of any given text or belief. These "Jews" are not unique. They are following the same script the ones before them did, as it was intended, with a different name to keep those amongst us who will, arguing about who done it.

I say again. They don't follow the Jewish belief, and any Jew who tells you otherwise is obviously either lying or misled. We come back again to my earlier statement.

Note that I have no trouble accepting if I am indeed wrong, but given my path of research, I am inclined to believe that I am not all that far off.  There was once a point when I began my research that people were happy to hear someone come out and mention that these people are not Jews. I have said nothing different now than when I started here. Sadly, however, what has changed is the reaction to that act. No longer are you all apparently in agreement with this ideal, rather, you enforce calling them Jews and push the falsehood that they actually follow the Jewish belief, forgetting all along that they are not Jews, just like they were not Christians when they played that angle.