Castro blasts Ahmadinejad as anti-Semitic

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Cuban leader tells American journalist Iranian government should understand Jews 'were expelled from their land, persecuted and mistreated all over the world, as the ones who killed God'

Associated Press Published:  09.08.10, 10:12 / Israel News  
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Fidel Castro criticized Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for what he called his anti-Semitic attitudes and questioned his own actions during the Cuban Missile Crisis of 1962 during interviews with an American journalist he summoned to Havana to discuss fears of global nuclear war.

 

Jeffrey Goldberg, a national correspondent for The Atlantic, blogged on the magazine's website Tuesday that he was on vacation last month when the head of the Cuban Interests Section in Washington — which Cuba maintains there instead of an embassy — called to say Castro had read his recent article about Israel and Iran and wanted him to come to Cuba.
Goldberg asked Julia Sweig, a Cuba-US policy expert at the Council on Foreign Relations, to accompany him, and the pair spent portions of three days talking with Castro.

 

Cuba's state-controlled media reported Aug. 31 that Goldberg and Sweig met with Castro and attended the dolphin show at Havana's aquarium, but the blog was the first to reveal details of what they discussed.

 

Goldberg said their first meeting lasted five hours and featured appearances by Castro's wife, Dalia, his son Antonio, and several bodyguards, two of which held his elbow to steady Castro when he moved.

 

"His body may be frail, but his mind is acute, his energy level is high," wrote Goldberg, who also noted Castro's self-deprecating humor.

 

'Iranians not going to back down'
The 84-year-old ex-president wore full military fatigues and an olive-green cap while addressing university students last week, and had previously appeared in public in a military shirt. But Goldberg saw Castro in a red shirt, sweat pants, and black New Balance sneakers.


 

He said Castro, who himself has been a fierce critic of Israel, "repeatedly returned to his excoriation of anti-Semitism," chiding Ahmadinejad for denying the Holocaust. Castro said that Iran could further the cause of peace by "acknowledging the 'unique' history of anti-Semitism and trying to understand why Israelis fear for their existence."

 

The gray-bearded revolutionary related to Goldberg a story from his childhood that has been detailed by some biographers: that he overheard classmates saying Jews killed Jesus Christ.

 

"I didn't know what a Jew was. I knew of a bird that was a called a 'Jew,' and so for me the Jews were those birds," Goldberg quoted Castro as telling him. Castro later added, "This is how ignorant the entire population was."

 

According to Goldberg, Castro said, "I don't think anyone has been slandered more than the Jews. I would say much more than the Muslims."

 

Castro also said that the Iranian government should understand that the Jews "were expelled from their land, persecuted and mistreated all over the world, as the ones who killed God."

 

After undergoing emergency intestinal surgery in July 2006, giving up Cuba's presidency and dropping out of sight for four years, Castro has begun making near-daily public appearances to warn of a nuclear war pitting the US and Israel against Iran and also featuring a Washington-led attack on North Korea.

 
 

"This problem is not going to get resolved, because the Iranians are not going to back down in the face of threats," Castro told Goldberg.

 
Goldberg also said he revisited the Cuban Missile Crisis with Castro, asking if once "it seemed logical for you to recommend that the Soviets bomb the US."

 
"Does what you recommended still seem logical now?"


Castro's answer surprised him: "After I've seen what I've seen, and knowing what I know now, it wasn't worth it all
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Negentropic

Exactly and right on cue when more friction is needed: CONTROLLED OPPOSITION, both Castro & Ahmedinejad are C.O. and have always been, no different than the cold war and the Soviet Union and Communism and all that before; the sooner you guys realize this the better instead of beating around the bush and glorifying Islamic fundamentalist tyrants for supposedly standing-up to Israel (Saddam did too at the end and so did the Shah at the end but funny how not too many people praised them) having helped kick cowardly Israeli asses out of Lebanon. That, in and of itself, is a heroic act of bravery deserving praise, but that does not make the fundamentalist Iranian government any better or prove anything more about it not being controlled opposition since Khomeini was installed from France than the Soviets coming to the aid of the brave Vietnamese peasants and Cubans and other brave 'anti-imperialist' Marxist expansions all over the world in the past. The people who fought in those anti-imperialist left-vs.-right massacres sincerely believed in the Marxist world being better. Now everyone who has researched it knows where the Soviet and Communist funding came from while in the the days when it was happening all the leftists were praising Marxists as 'freedom fighters' and as the only hope vs. imperialism, etc.    


US Has Given Over $100 BILLION To Companies Defying Its Policy On Iran

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/07/world/middleeast/07sanctions.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss

thirdeyewise

Another point to add to the list proving that Castro is nothing but a willing player pushing the Jewish agenda.

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One need not be a prophet to be aware of impending dangers. An accidental combination of experience and interest will often reveal events to one man under aspects which few see.

-F.A. Hayek

ldrancer

actually it's the opposite.  and no communism and soviet union, no people knew about it.

thirdeyewise

Quote from: "ldrancer"actually it's the opposite.  and no communism and soviet union, no people knew about it.

What is the opposite?
One need not be a prophet to be aware of impending dangers. An accidental combination of experience and interest will often reveal events to one man under aspects which few see.

-F.A. Hayek

Negentropic

Iranian Jew exiles don't get along with the American Jews, at all. They might be working for similar agendas but they sure as shit don't get along or go to each other's parties. They're like a breed apart. The Iranian Jews and Muslim Iranians (not strong Moslems or fundamentalists but still Moslem heritage) in L.A. get along like long-lost brothers.  There have been Jews in Persia for thousands of years. Quite a few of them still live over there even with the repressive regime. One guy I used to buy Kabob from was an Iranian Jew who told me he tried to go back and even though he didn't have any problems strictly for being a Jew he couldn't stand the rules of the regime so he came back to L.A. which he hates but which has the largest exile Iranian population.

Nausea

Ahmadinejad is is not CONTROLLED OPPOSITION, if you knew anything about Iranian politics his actually trying to strip the mullahs of their power especially Rasfanjani who did back door deals with Israel. He also wants a more secular nationalistic Iran that's why his discreetly advocating his very liberal chief of staff for presidency and maybe sending the mullahs back to Qom and other religious cities without power!

thirdeyewise

Quote from: "thirdeyewise"Another point to add to the list proving that Castro is nothing but a willing player pushing the Jewish agenda.

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Quotechiding Ahmadinejad for denying the Holocaust.

You mean to tell me this brilliant man with the photographic memory is unable to use simple logic and figure out that there is NO WAY the HOLOCO$T™  is real. Castro is a confirmed Jew & all his actions thus far prove he is on the side of the globalist. Castro is also pushing the Global Warming myth. How much more does it take to prove that this guy is not on the side of righteousness?

QuoteThis problem is not going to get resolved, because the Iranians are not going to back down in the face of threats," Castro told Goldberg.

Helping to Positioning the pieces for WW3
One need not be a prophet to be aware of impending dangers. An accidental combination of experience and interest will often reveal events to one man under aspects which few see.

-F.A. Hayek

thirdeyewise

You still think this Jewish clown is some kind of fighter against the system, think again.


NEW YORK (AFP) – Fidel Castro, the longtime president and leftist icon who stepped aside during a health crisis but still leads the CubanCommunist Party, has told a reporter that Israel definitely has the right to exist.
"Yes it does, without a doubt," Castro, 84, told visiting US journalist Jeffrey Goldberg of the Atlantic magazine, according to a new article published Wednesday.
In the same interview Castro criticized Iran's President MahmoudAhmadinejad for denying the Holocaust and said in an interview Tehran should acknowledge Israel's fears for its own survival.
Asked if Cuba was ready to establish diplomatic ties with Israel, FidelCastro said that those things took time, the report added.
The former Cuban president who handed over power to his brother Raul in 2006 said Iran should understand the consequences of theological anti-Semitism.
"This went on for maybe two thousand years," Castro was quoted as saying. "I don't think anyone has been slandered more than the Jews. I would say much more than the Muslims. They have been slandered much more than the Muslims because they are blamed and slandered for everything. No one blames the Muslims for anything."
"In my judgment here's what happened to them: Reverse selection. What's reverse selection? Over 2,000 years they were subjected to terrible persecution and then to the pogroms. One might have assumed that they would have disappeared; I think their culture and religion kept them together as a nation."
"The Jews have lived an existence that is much harder than ours. There is nothing that compares to theHolocaust,"
he said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100922/wl_mideast_afp/uscubairanisraelcastropoliticsreligion

It would seem the Jews have a fan, I wonder why?
One need not be a prophet to be aware of impending dangers. An accidental combination of experience and interest will often reveal events to one man under aspects which few see.

-F.A. Hayek

CrackSmokeRepublican

Yeah...the NeoCon American Jews knew Castro was of the Sick J-Tribe since the days of Eisenhower but just played along....

The Bay of Pigs probably fell apart because Kissinger type Jews ratted out the plan to Castro Jews back in the day... I also believe the Jew controlled CIA (Marrano Jew Angleton) used Cuba to bring massive amounts of Columbian coke into the USA with the help of assorted Gangster Jews from the 1960s onwards. Cuba was at least the base to drop to smaller islands from including Heroin. Probably Russia also got a load of dope from the same team. Dope runs in the Southern US and East coast had a very Jewish Black hand in the dealing (Lansky).

I found this back in the day after I got suspicious of Castro:

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After the Revolution of 1905, the Czar had prudently prepared for further outbreaks by transferring some $400 million in cash to the New York banks, Chase, National City, Guaranty Trust, J.P.Morgan Co., and Hanover Trust. In 1914, these same banks bought the controlling number of shares in the newly organized Federal Reserve Bank of New York, paying for the stock with the Czar\'s sequestered funds. In November 1917,  Red Guards drove a truck to the Imperial Bank and removed the Romanoff gold and jewels. The gold was later shipped directly to Kuhn, Loeb Co. in New York.-- Curse of Canaan

Timothy_Fitzpatrick

Fuck Castro and Chavez. Couple of douche bags can rot in their shithole countries.
Fitzpatrick Informer:

mchawe

Quote from: "Nausea"Ahmadinejad is is not CONTROLLED OPPOSITION, if you knew anything about Iranian politics his actually trying to strip the mullahs of their power especially Rasfanjani who did back door deals with Israel. He also wants a more secular nationalistic Iran that's why his discreetly advocating his very liberal chief of staff for presidency and maybe sending the mullahs back to Qom and other religious cities without power!

I'm not interested in Castro. It's obvious where his loyalties lie.
I am much more interested in Ahmadinejad. When he speaks it sounds to me that he has "got it". It is not like he is Alex Jones who never (until recently) mentions Israel or Jews. Everything said against him seem to me to be Jew Fog. Attack the man, not argue with reason against what he says.
Thank you for the statement.
When he is labelled as CO what evidence or proof is there ?
The admission of Goldman Sachs and Citibank into Iran is puzzling to me. It might simply be a form of insurance against attack, or it might be something more sinister. Per se this is not evidence or even proof.

rodin

Since when was communism not Jewish? A. never

rodin

Quote from: "mchawe"I am much more interested in Ahmadinejad. When he speaks it sounds to me that he has "got it". It is not like he is Alex Jones who never (until recently) mentions Israel or Jews. Everything said against him seem to me to be Jew Fog. Attack the man, not argue with reason against what he says.

His Jewish passport, his involvement in the Iran hostage crisis which got Carter replaced by Bush

The Iran Contra affair

And Goldman & co moving into Iran

Protocols of Zion - we the self chosen supply oppositional leaders

I have to side with Skunk on this one

http://www.freedomportal.net/forum/inde ... 596.0.html

thirdeyewise

Quote from: "mchawe"I'm not interested in Castro. It's obvious where his loyalties lie.

Obvious now, that was not the case too long ago when people were defending him as if he were Jesus reincarnate.
Castro (Jew) & Chavez (his Protégé) are obvious globalist, only time will tell what we will learn about Ahmadinejad.

by the way, it turns out the name Chavez is also of Jewish origins. Whether he is or not is a whole other story.

@1:50 the name Chavez is identified as being of Sephardic origins
[youtube:3hnt7z7e]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5AsREe7TEQ[/youtube]3hnt7z7e]
One need not be a prophet to be aware of impending dangers. An accidental combination of experience and interest will often reveal events to one man under aspects which few see.

-F.A. Hayek

MonkeySeeMonkeyDo

Quote from: "thirdeyewise"
Quote from: "mchawe"I'm not interested in Castro. It's obvious where his loyalties lie.

Obvious now, that was not the case too long ago when people were defending him as if he were Jesus reincarnate.
Castro (Jew) & Chavez are obvious Communist, only time will tell what we will learn about Ahmadinejad.

Chavez does not exude the key qualities of the former Jew-Commie regimes in eastern Europe and USSR, such as the scrubbing out of religion and nationalism everywhere they could find it and the slaughtering of entire elite classes (Katyn massacre, etc). The man is a practicing Christian--something a communist can't be. He promotes Christianity and Christ (do Jews do that? :problem: ). And the South American countries kinda have to be socialist or else American companies will come in and gobble up all of their resources in a heartbeat. Looks like you're right about Castro. But I don't see any problem with Chavez other than this.

Nausea

On Ahmadinejad

His mother, Khanom, was a Seyyede, an honorific title given to those believed to be direct bloodline descendants of the Islamic prophet Muhammad.

He changed his name due to class issues to avoid discrimination from the upper classes in Tehran  with is a major problem in Iran.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... ish-family

i do agree there is crypto Jews obviously, but this time the media was used to try and discredit Ahamdinejad by saying his Jewish especially so he would loose Muslim base support.

The evidence on the Goldman and co setting up in Iran is weak i think at the moment until we gain further sources.

MonkeySeeMonkeyDo

Thirdeyewise, are you going to defend your position that Chavez is a "communist" serving the Jew agenda? Communism as an ideology is definitely Jewish and Jews supported it becuz it was "good for the Jews" and put an end to organized and/or state 'anti-semitism', but when adopted by non-Jews with no particular concern for Jews I don't see how it's helpful to their cause. Chavez isn't doing anything to further intl' Jewry's cause. You point out he is friends with castro who seems to be a pro-semite at this point. But he was also friends and some say was mentored by Noberto Ceresole who for all intents and purposes was anti-Judaic.

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thirdeyewise

Quote from: "MonkeySeeMonkeyDo"Thirdeyewise, are you going to defend your position that Chavez is a "communist" serving the Jew agenda?

Here is a better question:

Are you going to throw a hizzy fit & call me a parroter of disinformation, or a Jew, simply for having a different understanding of how this matrix operates.

Quote from: "MonkeySeeMonkeyDo"You're parroting blatant falsehoods and nonsensical statements here

let me know so I know not to even bother answering your juvenile questions.
One need not be a prophet to be aware of impending dangers. An accidental combination of experience and interest will often reveal events to one man under aspects which few see.

-F.A. Hayek

MonkeySeeMonkeyDo

Quote from: "thirdeyewise"
Quote from: "MonkeySeeMonkeyDo"Thirdeyewise, are you going to defend your position that Chavez is a "communist" serving the Jew agenda?

Here is a better question:

Are you going to throw a hizzy fit & call me a parroter of disinformation, or a Jew, simply for having a different understanding of how this matrix operates.

Nope.

MonkeySeeMonkeyDo

I don't recall ever calling you a Jew Thirdeye. If I unduly went off on you for one reason or another than I apologize, but I never called you a Jew. I don't think I called anyone else a Jew simply becuz they differed on a particular issue. I only call someone a Jew if they exude the stereotypical behaviors associated with Jews such as neuroticism, greed, totalitarian control freak personality, or relentless fanatical propagation of known Jewish propaganda, etc. Can we get to the issue at hand, namely your assertion that Chavez is a "communist" that is working to benefit Jews?

thirdeyewise

I am not going to waste time to list things I have already listed:
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Just like Castro there is a multitude of things that point to Chavez true intentions. When you add them up only a simpleton would come up with a conclusion other than Chavez being an absolute agent. Here is the key among them: Global Warming. If you can't wrap your mind around its implications then I really don't know what to tell you, maybe analyzing deception is not for you.

During his speech to the 15th United Nations Climate Change Summit in Copenhagen, Denmark, Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez slammed the "lack of political will" of the most powerful nations to take serious action to avert climate change, and called for systemic change to save the planet.

Quote"We must reduce all the emissions that are destroying the planet, that requires a change in the economic model: we must go from capitalism to socialism.  "  - Hugo Chavez <:^0  

http://www.greenleft.org.au/node/42985
http://yesbuthowever.com/hugo-chavez-copenhagen-8136340/
http://www.northstarnational.com/2009/12/19/hugo-chavez-climate-change-subsidizing-socialism/


AMY GOODMAN: What level of emissions are you willing to support reductions of emissions?
PRESIDENT HUGO CHAVEZ: One hundred percent. One hundred percent. We must reduce the emissions 100 percent.
http://www.democracynow.org/2009/12/21/venezuelan_president_hugo_chavez_on_how


What exactly does one expect from 100 percent reduction in emissions...end of the industrialized world, serfdom!


Quote"Isn't it the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our responsibility to bring that about?"
Maurice Strong - Canadian environmentalist, under-secretary-general of the United Nations, secretary general of the 1992 Earth Summit, associate of Mikhail Gorbachev.

Bottomline: Chavez is pushing the globalist agenda. Period.



Quote from: "MonkeySeeMonkeyDo"The man is a practicing Christian--something a communist can't be. He promotes Christianity and Christ (do Jews do that?   ).

Regardless of whether he is Christian or not, how do you think he is going to represent himself to the Christian nation of Venezuela...as a Christian of course. Why do people give so much credibility to labels that people give themselves, in order to make themselves look good. Do you not understand that George Bush represented himself as a Christian while in office but kept a kosher kitchen in the White House (and probably at home), do I have to explain that concept to you. Are you aware most Satanist go to church on Sunday, what does that prove?

Do you know that Castro fixed it so that a white dove landed on his shoulder during a speech so as to win the endorsement of the voodoo priest on the island who held sway over the population, they are simply political tactics.

The game is based on bait & switch. If after establishing complete control Chavez abolished Christianity, would you be surprised? Its been done throughout history time & time again. After all, one of the key tenets of Communism is Godlessness...yes/no?

Quote from: "MonkeySeeMonkeyDo"Communism as an ideology is definitely Jewish and Jews supported it becuz it was "good for the Jews" and put an end to organized and/or state 'anti-semitism', but when adopted by non-Jews with no particular concern for Jews I don't see how it's helpful to their cause.

I'll just chuck that up as an attempted joke on your part, because you obviously can't be serious. What if all countries simply adopted the Communist ideology, we would be living in a no holds bar Jewish world. I know, I know we are already living in a Jewish world.


Quote from: "MonkeySeeMonkeyDo"But I don't see any problem with Chavez other than this.

Okay stop it with the jokes, this is a serious forum. C'mon after all the things I pointed out you still don't see nothing wrong with that. Please seek medical attention
One need not be a prophet to be aware of impending dangers. An accidental combination of experience and interest will often reveal events to one man under aspects which few see.

-F.A. Hayek

thirdeyewise

Quote from: "MonkeySeeMonkeyDo"I don't recall ever calling you a Jew Thirdeye. If I unduly went off on you for one reason or another than I apologize, but I never called you a Jew.

That's how I took it, but I accept your apology. You did as a matter of fact call Whaler a Jew, which I thought was uncalled for.
One need not be a prophet to be aware of impending dangers. An accidental combination of experience and interest will often reveal events to one man under aspects which few see.

-F.A. Hayek

Anonymous

Chavez is a "communist" that is working to benefit Jews in my view. I've thought so from the start!

MonkeySeeMonkeyDo

Quote from: "thirdeyewise"
Quote from: "MonkeySeeMonkeyDo"I don't recall ever calling you a Jew Thirdeye. If I unduly went off on you for one reason or another than I apologize, but I never called you a Jew.

That's how I took it, but I accept your apology. You did as a matter of fact call Whaler a Jew, which I thought was uncalled for.

Uhh, yea only after he called me a Jew first which seems to be perfectly fine with you. :P

thirdeyewise

If he called you a Jew first then I apologize, I was not keeping track of the whole chronology of it.

But to quote you:

Quote from: "MonkeySeeMonkeyDo"Can we get to the issue at hand, namely your assertion that Chavez is a "communist" that is working to benefit Jews?

After the so simple to understand issue of Global Warming, do you not agree that more than likely Chavez is a globalist agent?
notice I said "more than likely", so as to not force you to admit to anything (we will do it in baby steps)

Don't let your ego get in the way. ;)
One need not be a prophet to be aware of impending dangers. An accidental combination of experience and interest will often reveal events to one man under aspects which few see.

-F.A. Hayek

MonkeySeeMonkeyDo

Quote from: "thirdeyewise"Just like Castro there is a multitude of things that point to Chavez true intentions. When you add them up only a simpleton would come up with a conclusion other than Chavez being an absolute agent.

I think it takes a simpleton to conclude that only a simpleton would disagree with you on this particular issue.

Quote from: "thirdeyewise"Here is the key among them: Global Warming. If you can't wrap your mind around its implications then I really don't know what to tell you, maybe analyzing deception is not for you.

lol, no actually maybe it's not for you. You jump to conclusions about people quite quickly. It doesn't take much for you to consider someone a shill working for the other side. Really, it takes almost nothing, one quote you don't like and you throw him under the bus. Essentially your argument comes down to conjecture. You do not have any proof that he is working for Jews or pushing an agenda, you just say he is based on some random things he said, conveniently overlooking all of the good things he has said.

Quote from: "thirdeyewise"What exactly does one expect from 100 percent reduction in emissions...end of the industrialized world, serfdom!

Again, he never said anything about serfdom, you did, thus putting words in his mouth to fit your pre-conceived conclusion.

Quote from: "thirdeyewise"Bottomline: Chavez is pushing the globalist agenda. Period.

'Period'? Period, meaning nobody can disagree with you and if they do they must be a 'simpleton'?  :lol: There were teachers and students in my high school who were pushing global warming and environmentalism... are they also shills working for the 'illuminati', pushing a 'globalist' agenda? I don't see anything wrong with taking care of the planet. You've taken this anti-global warming thing so far that you've actually seem to have taken a pro-pollution stance.  :lol: :clap:

Quote from: "thirdeyewise"
Quote from: "MonkeySeeMonkeyDo"The man is a practicing Christian--something a communist can't be. He promotes Christianity and Christ (do Jews do that?   ).

Regardless of whether he is Christian or not, how do you think he is going to represent himself to the Christian nation of Venezuela...as a Christian of course. Why do people give so much credibility to labels that people give themselves, in order to make themselves look good. Do you not understand that George Bush represented himself as a Christian while in office but kept a kosher kitchen in the White House (and probably at home), do I have to explain that concept to you. Are you aware most Satanist go to church on Sunday, what does that prove?

A fair point about Bush. But Bush was pushing war and destruction on the world while calling himself a Christian. Chavez does nothing of the sort. He has done nothing to harm me or the world and has consistently spoken out against those doing the evils -- so why should I dislike him? Becuz he believes in global warming like the millions of other people who are taken in by this hype? Very, very weak argument in my opinion.

Quote from: "thirdeyewise"The game is based on bait & switch. If after establishing complete control Chavez abolished Christianity, would you be surprised? Its been done throughout history time & time again. After all, one of the key tenets of Communism is Godlessness...yes/no?

I've never seen a godless commie masquerade as a Christian and promote Christianity amongst his people and the world thus purposely making it doubly hard for himself to eradicate religion when he "comes out of the closet."

Quote from: "thirdeyewise"
Quote from: "MonkeySeeMonkeyDo"Communism as an ideology is definitely Jewish and Jews supported it becuz it was "good for the Jews" and put an end to organized and/or state 'anti-semitism', but when adopted by non-Jews with no particular concern for Jews I don't see how it's helpful to their cause.

I'll just chuck that up as an attempted joke on your part, because you obviously can't be serious. What if all countries simply adopted the Communist ideology, we would be living in a no holds bar Jewish world. I know, I know we are already living in a Jewish world.

As you said we are already living in a Jewish world. There would be no difference. Chavez is not really a communist. I don't care if he calls himself a marxist, these people dabble in ideologies more than a fat kid dabbles in ice cream flavors. He actually believes that marxism is a legitimate defense against finance capitalism which has plundered South America. None of his policies resemble those of the Jew-Commie regimes in eastern Europe or the USSR. In fact many are quite contrary to those regimes. Since you know Communism was Judaic, do you honestly think finance capitalism is not Judaic and is any better than Communism? You seem to have black and white thinking patterns so you might actually believe that.

Quote from: "thirdeyewise"Okay stop it with the jokes, this is a serious forum. C'mon after all the things I pointed out you still don't see nothing wrong with that. Please seek medical attention.

Interesting, you've already resorted to insults becuz ur 'theories' about controlled opposition are pathetically unconvincing, amounting to conspiratard conjecture. Have fun with that idea. Maybe you should prepare a manuscript of all your lackluster theories (i.e. hitler=jew, stalin=jew, castro=jew, chavez=jew, ahmadinejad=jew, saddam=jew?, mao=jew? bush=jew? obama=jew? everyone=jew!  :lol:  :lol: ). Maybe Benjamin Fulford or Alan Watt will give you a book deal. ;)

The obvious question here is, what could chavez do that would make him okay in your books? I don't really think there is a way for Chavez to avoid your 'shill' label, you will always find a reason. You pull up a random quote and assert he's pushing an agenda. You seem to have a black and white view of things, ignoring the whole underworld or intrigue, blackmail and so on. The fact that the US and Israel have repeatedly tried to overthrow Chavez (almost successfully in 2002) I think says a lot that this guy is not controlled or pushing any kind of agenda that benefits Jews. What could a small, relatively obscure and non-influential country like Venezuela possibly do that would help the Jewish power elite in any way? Nothing. My neighbour across the street is pushing global warming --  he must be a rothschild agent. ;)

MonkeySeeMonkeyDo

Quote from: "Melvin"Chavez is a "communist" that is working to benefit Jews in my view. I've thought so from the start!

In what way is he working to benefit Jews and which Jews do his policies benefit? And why are the CIA, Mossad and local Jews trying to topple him if that is the case?

http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2009/02/f ... zuela.html
QuoteMossad and the CIA are very busy in Venezuela.

1. Two students who are leading the opposition to Hugo Chavez appear to have Jewish origins.

These are Diego Aaron Scharifker and David Smolansky Urosa. (Venezuela campaign gets rough)

Student leader Yon Goicoechea accepted $500,000 prize in 2008 from the Cato Institute in Washington.

"Between Chávez and the students receiving the gringo dollars, I'll take Chávez," said María Encarnación Contreras, 58, a housewife. (Venezuela campaign gets rough)

2. It looks like Mossad recently attacked a synagogue in Caracas, in order to make it look like Chavez cannot keep law and order.

Venezuelan investigators have arrested security officials from the synagogue in connection with the attack on the synagogue. (Venezuela arrests 11, including 7 police agents, over synagogue attack)

3. People disguised as pro-Chávez partisans, riding motorcycles, have carried out tear-gas attacks on the home of a television executive, the papal diplomatic mission, and municipal and media buildings. (Venezuela campaign gets rough)

The aim is to make it look as if Chavez cannot keep law and order. This is a classic CIA tactic.

Chavez has ordered the security forces to detain Valentín David Santana who has taken credit for most of the tear gas attacks.

4. Thousands of right-wingers, many of them Jewish, have taken part in a march against Chavez.

Simón Bolívar, liberator of not only Venezuela, but also Colombia, Panama, Ecuador, Bolivia, and Peru

5. The media is being used to undermine Chavez. However, the truth does manage to get out.

Venezuelanalysis.com tells us of 10 Years of Progress in Venezuela

Chavez has been in power for ten years and "Bolivarian Revolution" has brought sustained economic growth, and a huge expansion of health care and other social services.

High school graduation rates have increased from 47% to 66%, and university enrollment has increased from 676,515 students to 1.8 million students.

More than a million Venezuelans have been taught to read, bringing the illiteracy rate down to less than one percent.

Ten years ago, only 20% of Venezuelans had access to primary health care. Now nearly 100% of Venezuelans have access.

Infant mortality has dropped from 21 to 13 per one thousand.

Ten years ago, the richest 20% of Venezuelans received 54% of the GDP. Now, the richest 20% get 46% of the country's total income.

There has been a big growth in the small and medium-sized business sector.

The percentage of people living in extreme poverty has dropped from 23.4% to 9.1% over the past ten years.

Unemployment was 14.6% in 2003. It is now down to 6.1%.

Under the previous regime in the mid 1990s, inflation was 57.8%

Inflation has averaged 22% during the Chávez presidency.

(Source http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/news/4163)

6. The most reliable opinion polls suggest that Chávez will win the referendum on 15 February 2009. (Oblivious to the coming storm)

thirdeyewise

Quote from: "MonkeySeeMonkeyDo"The fact that the US and Israel have repeatedly tried to overthrow Chavez (almost successfully in 2002) I think says a lot that this guy is not controlled or pushing any kind of agenda that benefits Jews.


so according to your idiotic logic, there is no way Castro could be an agent.



Quote from: "MonkeySeeMonkeyDo"My neighbour across the street is pushing global warming -- he must be a rothschild agent

Your neighbor across the street does not have an intelligence service that can investigate these facts.
your neighbor across the street does not get in front of the united nations and call for the end of the industrialized world.
Your neighbor across the street is not best friends with the Jew Castro who is also pushing this agenda.

I could go on and on but I see that would be useless

You've made me realize that it does not take much intelligence to compile other people's research & put it chronological order.
One need not be a prophet to be aware of impending dangers. An accidental combination of experience and interest will often reveal events to one man under aspects which few see.

-F.A. Hayek

MonkeySeeMonkeyDo

Quote from: "thirdeyewise"
Quote from: "MonkeySeeMonkeyDo"The fact that the US and Israel have repeatedly tried to overthrow Chavez (almost successfully in 2002) I think says a lot that this guy is not controlled or pushing any kind of agenda that benefits Jews.


so according to your idiotic logic, there is no way Castro could be an agent.

An agent of what? You use these vague all-encompasing terms, like 'agent' :lol: , and just throw them onto people -- maybe becuz you believe we're all stupid and will just follow your lead like a bunch of toothless zombies. I personally couldn't give a shit what castro is/was or is saying now. It means nothing and influences no one.

Quote from: "thirdeyewise"
Quote from: "MonkeySeeMonkeyDo"My neighbour across the street is pushing global warming -- he must be a rothschild agent
Your neighbor across the street does not have an intelligence service that can investigate these facts.
your neighbor across the street does not get in front of the united nations and call for the end of the industrialized world.
Your neighbor across the street is not best friends with the Jew Castro who is also pushing this agenda.

I'm just going by your logic. According to your logic my neighbor must be a globalist rothschild agent becuz he believes in global warming and tries to convince people it's real. Chavez can call for the end of fast food at the UN if he wants to -- do you think anyone is going to listen to him? So what the hell are you worried about? How many Americans or Canadians or Europeans actually listen to what South American leaders say? Uhh, pretty much none, so, this is truly a hysterical non-issue.

Quote from: "thirdeyewise"I could go on and on but I see that would be useless

I'm sure you could pull some more stuff out of your conspiratard bucket of nonsense.

Quote from: "thirdeyewise"You've made me realize that it does not take much intelligence to compile other people's research & put it chronological order.

Hmm, an insult you don't have the qualifications to level, since all you've ever done is copy/paste the same comments onto random youtube videos as well as come here once in awhile trying to convince us all that everyone under the sun is a 'jew', 'mason', or 'agent' working for some mysterious global warming gestapo. :lol:  :lol: I've done a lot more than you to bring truth to people, so honestly, go back to the circus where you belong.

I was going to keep this civil but you just couldn't help yourself with the 'agree with everything I say or seek medical attention' comment. Have fun with your two-bit bargain bin controlled opposition theories. A child could come up with better stuff.  :| Watch out for those agents of global warming trying to enslave us, they're everywhere!   :o  :o  :o