Reisman omits Jewish role in porn industry and pedophilia movement

[Whaler]

What, Vietnam? That occurred at the onset of and thereafter Freud's sexual revolution. Bad example. Early America was fairly Jew free culturally before that period. Freud, Bernays, and Kinsey (cultural Marxists) radically changed that. Almost every American societal problem today can be traced back to them. Furthermore, monogamy is characteristic of Western European culture. Monogamy is not esteemed among Jewry, who view sex as utilitarian.

Do you really think I am referring to the Vietnam era as an example of young men fighting in Jew wars? The problem pre dates the Vietnam war era by several hundred years.

Vietnam served the Jews agenda by:

A) providing a smokescreen for the Jew takeover of the middle east(1967 war)

b)an attempt to pull off a bolshevik stye popular uprising among young people using the war Vietnam war as a spark plug(WWI Russia...same shit...different pile). A plan hatched from Tavistock marxist Jews.

Certainly, the World Wars were for the Jews, no doubt. But American culture was still virtually untouched by Jewry at that point, except for Bernays's consumerist culture, which was just beginning. It is negligent of you to tie together pre-Sexual revolution society with Jew wars. They were not related in any way. American men were willing to go to war because they were lied to by the press and the government. However, as a society, American culture was very strong and moral, and that was attributed to Western European tradition, not the Jews.

Sure, I agree with that....but Jews still figured out a way to pull off their horrendous and sinister crime of establishing a Jewish state in Palestine using ww1 and ww2. Millions of dead christian kids suckered by the Jew predators in banking and the media. The only reason our culture is so offensive is because the ww2 generation got totally conned and fooled. It was very easy for the Jews. This is the same generation that happily gave up their gold to the con man jew Roosevelt. They were dim and naive... let's face it. Their kids(baby boomers) were even more idiotic. They were really easy marks for the Jews. The blame actually should be pinned on the ww2 and baby boomer generations if we are going to carve up some blame pie.
 
The Jews endlessly bang on about how great the ww2 generation was...Spielberg makes movies about how selfless and heroic they were. Sorry Tim, I can't romanticize that time period or embrace any cultural norms of that time. The Jews had their way with them.

[Anonymous]

We have WW II Vet 'No Baloney' Tony Hmura (of TheAZL.com) posting here, very proud of his ww2 days, wears his ww2 bomber jacket everywhere he goes. Probably why he is so anti nazi, anti hitler, refuses to believe he was fighting on the wrong side.

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

Sure, I agree with that....but Jews still figured out a way to pull off their horrendous and sinister crime of establishing a Jewish state in Palestine using ww1 and ww2. Millions of dead christian kids suckered by the Jew predators in banking and the media. The only reason our culture is so offensive is because the ww2 generation got totally conned and fooled. It was very easy for the Jews. This is the same generation that happily gave up their gold to the con man jew Roosevelt. They were dim and naive... let's face it. Their kids(baby boomers) were even more idiotic. They were really easy marks for the Jews. The blame actually should be pinned on the ww2 and baby boomer generations if we are going to carve up some blame pie.
 
The Jews endlessly bang on about how great the ww2 generation was...Spielberg makes movies about how selfless and heroic they were. Sorry Tim, I can't romanticize that time period or embrace any cultural norms of that time. The Jews had their way with them.

OK, we are getting off the point here. I was trying point out the good things of traditional America and you turned it into something about Jew wars. Perhaps I wasnt making myself clear. When I speak of traditional America, I dont mean EVERYTHING. I mean how men and women treated each other. The nuclear family. THis has nothing to do with war, and traditional American culture didn't predispose anyone to fighting for Jews. People are far more idiotic today, especially in America. The US is only one of a few countries still fighting wars for the Jews. Few others will because they know better. In the World Wars, everyone was fighting the Jew wars because everyone was duped, mainly because of the Holocaust lie. But You need to consider that the Holocaust was a lot fresher in the minds of people back then and so there was more indignation compared to today. And I am not speaking of traditional America with regards to only the WW2 generation. All I am saying is that things were better culturally speaking. There was no cultural marxist culture in America like there is today.

So instead of admitting that you have been conned by the Jews' sexual revolution bullshit, you are going to sidestep the issue and turn it into something about war. But face it, we've all been conned. The sex revolution has affected everyone. But admitting it is a step in the right direction. It's like therapy. You can't move forward until you admit it. Resistance to the sexual revolution and all of its results is resistance to Jewry. Don't you get that?

Gentile culture does not only go back 50 years, Whaler. How long have gentiles been around? There is tons of evidence to demonstrate a historical gentile group, characterized by monogamy, individualism, civility, and morality.

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

Whaler, MacDonald summarizes it well in this quick 3-minute clip.

[youtube:1g239t90]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyNqA7MoFHQ[/youtube]1g239t90]

[Whaler]

Sure, I agree with that....but Jews still figured out a way to pull off their horrendous and sinister crime of establishing a Jewish state in Palestine using ww1 and ww2. Millions of dead christian kids suckered by the Jew predators in banking and the media. The only reason our culture is so offensive is because the ww2 generation got totally conned and fooled. It was very easy for the Jews. This is the same generation that happily gave up their gold to the con man jew Roosevelt. They were dim and naive... let's face it. Their kids(baby boomers) were even more idiotic. They were really easy marks for the Jews. The blame actually should be pinned on the ww2 and baby boomer generations if we are going to carve up some blame pie.
 
The Jews endlessly bang on about how great the ww2 generation was...Spielberg makes movies about how selfless and heroic they were. Sorry Tim, I can't romanticize that time period or embrace any cultural norms of that time. The Jews had their way with them.

OK, we are getting off the point here. I was trying point out the good things of traditional America and you turned it into something about Jew wars. Perhaps I wasnt making myself clear. When I speak of traditional America, I dont mean EVERYTHING. I mean how men and women treated each other. The nuclear family. THis has nothing to do with war, and traditional American culture didn't predispose anyone to fighting for Jews. People are far more idiotic today, especially in America. The US is only one of a few countries still fighting wars for the Jews. Few others will because they know better. In the World Wars, everyone was fighting the Jew wars because everyone was duped, mainly because of the Holocaust lie. But You need to consider that the Holocaust was a lot fresher in the minds of people back then and so there was more indignation compared to today. And I am not speaking of traditional America with regards to only the WW2 generation. All I am saying is that things were better culturally speaking. There was no cultural marxist culture in America like there is today.

So instead of admitting that you have been conned by the Jews' sexual revolution bullshit, you are going to sidestep the issue and turn it into something about war. But face it, we've all been conned. The sex revolution has affected everyone. But admitting it is a step in the right direction. It's like therapy. You can't move forward until you admit it. Resistance to the sexual revolution and all of its results is resistance to Jewry. Don't you get that?

Gentile culture does not only go back 50 years, Whaler. How long have gentiles been around? There is tons of evidence to demonstrate a historical gentile group, characterized by monogamy, individualism, civility, and morality.

Tim, There are several claims made in the above post that I could refute and give a counter argument debunking your "it was better in the olden days" spiel. but I pretty much agree that cultural life for your average person was beneficial to Gentile health.  The modern day Jew model is completely destructive for  white Europeans throughout the world. I think you would agree with that. My point is: Jews "cracked" the code and were able to pervert that pro gentile culture. They hacked it. They know how to manipulate the goyim now because they have studied us like animals at a Zoo for 2 thousand years. That ship has sailed. Another cultural model needs to be made that is more Jew secure. The Jews, given time, will always manipulate and infiltrate the traditional gentile organizations and institutions. It's all been rotted away Tim. Time to "pull it"  

We need to get wayyyy more hardcore as a civilization and culture. Things need to change right now. We need to change (white Europeans ) or we are toast.

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

OK, but you have to admit that sexual liberation and nihilism (or atheism) did not become prominent in the USA until after Jewish cultural programs were instituted. Or is it all a coincidence?

[pas]

Bluejelly wrote:

We have WW II Vet 'No Baloney' Tony Hmura (of TheAZL.com) posting here, very proud of his ww2 days, wears his ww2 bomber jacket everywhere he goes. Probably why he is so anti nazi, anti hitler, refuses to believe he was fighting on the wrong side.

Yeah, possibly but i don't hold that against him, it's the spreading lies about ZCF/MSMD/CIB4YWI, that i am not too keen on.(If it IS Mr. Hmura posting as ''The AZL''.)

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

Bluejelly wrote:

We have WW II Vet 'No Baloney' Tony Hmura (of TheAZL.com) posting here, very proud of his ww2 days, wears his ww2 bomber jacket everywhere he goes. Probably why he is so anti nazi, anti hitler, refuses to believe he was fighting on the wrong side.

Yeah, possibly but i don't hold that against him, it's the spreading lies about ZCF/MSMD/CIB4YWI, that i am not too keen on.(If it IS Mr. Hmura posting as ''The AZL''.)

Which lies?

[checkitb4uwreckit]

We have WW II Vet 'No Baloney' Tony Hmura (of TheAZL.com) posting here, very proud of his ww2 days, wears his ww2 bomber jacket everywhere he goes. Probably why he is so anti nazi, anti hitler, refuses to believe he was fighting on the wrong side.

 :lol: Yup, that's precisely why he's so anti-Nazi anti-Hitler. He probably killed Germans during the war and, in a sense, helped pave the way for the Jew World Order.

His posts are totally erratic, incoherent and nonsensical. I think he's senile at this point.

[checkitb4uwreckit]

Bluejelly wrote:

We have WW II Vet 'No Baloney' Tony Hmura (of TheAZL.com) posting here, very proud of his ww2 days, wears his ww2 bomber jacket everywhere he goes. Probably why he is so anti nazi, anti hitler, refuses to believe he was fighting on the wrong side.

Yeah, possibly but i don't hold that against him, it's the spreading lies about ZCF/MSMD/CIB4YWI, that i am not too keen on.(If it IS Mr. Hmura posting as ''The AZL''.)

Which lies?

I would hardly expect you to spot the lies of others, since you spout so many lies yourself.  

These lies

UNUSUAL CALL-INS to GIULIANI during past weeks of Hitlerite interviews, and the ADL's new focus on Delaney and the U.S. "ex-patriot" in Netherlands:

- Did a certain Netherlands hero (another US "ex-patriot") call in, (fresh after becoming the ADL's new, hate crime poster boy?) just to insinuate that he is downright pacifistic, in comparison to Giuliani, who he insinuates is speaking too dangerously, off the handle, and needs to get a grip? How ADL friendly was that call-in? Was this the same ex-patriot, appearing as guest with Giuliani, just before the Hitlerites - presenting the "Isreal did 9/11" evidence without including the message that an investigation of GUARDIUM would get to the bottom of 9/11? viewtopic.php?p=61250#p61250

He asks "Was this the same ex-patriot, appearing as guest with Giuliani, just before the Hitlerites - presenting the "Isreal did 9/11" evidence..."
The answer is no, I'm neither Dutch nor did I say anything of the sort about Giuliani. Either he is confusing me with some other guest or caller on Giuliani's show or he is just making shit up. The guy appears to be senile and permanently confused.

No surprise that you add in some more ridiculous false claims:

Please, Pas. Don't fall for this. The only reason Giuliani and his disciples are "ripping" MSMD is because MSMD presents a competitive threat to Giuliani, as he has a similar message. viewtopic.php?p=61268#p61268

Giuliani hasn't been "ripping" me. There is no bad blood between me or Giuliani at all. You sound like a Jew trying to stir up shit between us though, using lies and deceit.  

[Moe Foe]

The guy appears to be senile and permanently confused.

Your just a spiteful little Hitler fetishist aint ya?  Have you no respect for anyone?  He may have been fighting and defeating your hero but he was doing it for genuine reasons, he was fighting for future generations of people like you and me.  You constantly big yourself up because you have a blog and make some videos in your bedroom Mr Hmura risked his life fighting for you and me.

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

MSMD has daddy issues, he can't help himself. His father wasn't around to smack him upside the head every time shit fell out of his mouth.

[checkitb4uwreckit]

The guy appears to be senile and permanently confused.

Your just a spiteful little Hitler fetishist aint ya?  Have you no respect for anyone?  He may have been fighting and defeating your hero but he was doing it for genuine reasons, he was fighting for future generations of people like you and me.  You constantly big yourself up because you have a blog and make some videos in your bedroom Mr Hmura risked his life fighting for you and me.

Wow are you that daft? How did Mr. Hmura risk his life fighting for future generations? If anything, he fought to enslave future generations as that was the result of that war. Hitler didn't attack America and wasn't planning on it. Hmura risked his life fighting for the Jews and their agenda of global dominance. Your claim is about the equivalent to saying that US troops in Iraq are "fighting for freedom and democracy" instead of for Israel. :lol:

I know you would have gladly joined the Jewish side in the quest to vanquish the Nazis. That's where your loyalties appear to be.

[checkitb4uwreckit]

Moe Foe, aren't you that guy that was trying to exonerate the Jews for their conspiracy to overthrow the White government in South Africa? And didn't you actually try to deny that Jews were behind the civil rights/integration movement in America?  :think:

Yeah, you're a big Jewry apologist who is only mildly "anti-Israel". Now you are defending the Jew-inspired second world war and the US, British, French and Russian pawns that fought and died to make Jewry world dictator. As I pointed out before, you're basically on board with 90+ percent of the Jewish agenda. You might as well strap a Yarmulke to your head and make "aliyah."

[Moe Foe]

Wow are you that daft? How did Mr. Hmura risk his life fighting for future generations?

:lol:  The irony.  How the fuck do you think people risk their life fighting in world wars?

If anything, he fought to enslave future generations as that was the result of that war. Hitler didn't attack America and wasn't planning on it. Hmura risked his life fighting for the Jews and their agenda of global dominance. Your claim is about the equivalent to saying that US troops in Iraq are "fighting for freedom and democracy" instead of for Israel. :lol:

I know you would have gladly joined the Jewish side in the quest to vanquish the Nazis. That's where your loyalties appear to be.

Once again you've spectacularly missed the point  :clap: What is important is  Hmura's perceptions and motivations at the time of the war.  If you think as far as he was concerned he was risking his life fighting a war for the jews then your an idiot.  He risked his own life to make the world a better place as he see's it and as such deserves our respect.

[Moe Foe]

Moe Foe, aren't you that guy that was trying to exonerate the Jews for their conspiracy to overthrow the White government in South Africa? And didn't you actually try to deny that Jews were behind the civil rights/integration movement in America?  :think:

Yeah, you're a big Jewry apologist who is only mildly "anti-Israel". Now you are defending the Jew-inspired second world war and the US, British, French and Russian pawns that fought and died to make Jewry world dictator. As I pointed out before, you're basically on board with 90+ percent of the Jewish agenda. You might as well strap a Yarmulke to your head and make "aliyah."

On the contrary, it's intolerant racists/supremacists like yourself who are the other side of the same magnet with intolerant racist/supremacist Zionist Jews. Your both frothing at the mouth with irrational hatred for Muslims/Arabs/Christians and now are getting in bed with Jewish groups all over Europe.

[checkitb4uwreckit]

Once again you've spectacularly missed the point  :clap: What is important is  Hmura's perceptions and motivations at the time of the war.  If you think as far as he was concerned he was risking his life fighting a war for the jews then your an idiot.  He risked his own life to make the world a better place as he see's it and as such deserves our respect.

So he was duped by Jews to go half-way across the world to slaughter Germans, and this is deserving of respect? Are US troops committing atrocities in Iraq also deserving our respect mofo? Sounds like you're a big proponent of Jew wars. Why don't you go fight in one?

On the contrary, it's intolerant racists/supremacists like yourself who are the other side of the same magnet with intolerant racist/supremacist Zionist Jews. Your both frothing at the mouth with irrational hatred for Muslims/Arabs/Christians and now are getting in bed with Jewish groups all over Europe.

Is this another one of your cultural marxist fantasies? Riiight, that's why the number one target of Jewish groups in the West is "White Nationalists" and "White Supremacist" groups. Jews certainly aren't worried about people of your persuasion who make little comments on forums defending Jew wars, exonerating Jews for their sinister conspiracies, and ranting about "racism" and "bigotry". I don't know if the SPLC is hiring, but you'd make a perfect fit with that organization.  



Besides operating as Jewish apologist, what exactly is your purpose in this "movement"? You deny all the main elements of the Jewish conspiracy, and are an avowed anti-racist. What's the difference between you and Mark Potok? You are essentially on the Jewish side in their quest to destroy western civilization.

[Moe Foe]

Why is it your such a fan of logic when your talking about religion and nothing else?  There is not correlation between anything I've said and the strawmen you set up and villify.  I've already explained to you how apartheid South Africa was close allies with apartheid Israel to the point of arranging illicit nuclear arms deals.  How the boers, who themselves came with the Rothschild's Dutch East India Company  forged alliances with the City of London imperialists who followed them.  How the Randlords who were pillaging South Africa's vast wealth were top-heavy with Jews and dominated trade and industry.  How Mandela's prosecutor, a Jew, sought the death penalty for him after his arrest  and so on and so forth.  How can you be anything but a racist and hypocrite to claim to be a nationalist on the one hand and condemn nationalism in South Africa solely because they are black nationalists on the other?

[checkitb4uwreckit]

I've already explained to you how apartheid South Africa was close allies with apartheid Israel to the point of arranging illicit nuclear arms deals.  How the boers, who themselves came with the Rothschild's Dutch East India Company  forged alliances with the City of London imperialists who followed them.  How the Randlords who were pillaging South Africa's vast wealth were top-heavy with Jews and dominated trade and industry.  How Mandela's prosecutor, a Jew, sought the death penalty for him after his arrest  and so on and so forth.

How does that prove Jews weren't behind the downfall of the White South African government? All that proves is that Jews leeched off of another White European regime for their own selfish interests and then tore it down when they had no more use for it. And the Boers didn't forge alliances with London they fought two wars against the British Rothschild-pawns.

And I already explained to you that Communist Jews like Joe Slovo, his wife and Ronnie Kasrils, were behind the ANC. I already proved to you that South African Jews were massively disproportionately involved in "revolutionary activity" against the White government of South Africa. I already showed you that two Jewish congressman, Steven Solarz and Howard Wolpe, in the US government led the charge to topple the White SA government, and the Jewish-owned media worldwide demonized the Whites of South Africa and Rhodesia and openly called for their demise (while at the same time supporting the Israeli apartheid state which is hardly comparable to the White gov't of SA). This article uses almost solely Jewish sources to prove that: http://zionistdevils.blogspot.com/2011/ ... frica.html

Denying these facts is delusional.

 

How can you be anything but a racist and hypocrite to claim to be a nationalist on the one hand and condemn nationalism in South Africa solely because they are black nationalists on the other?

Riiight, these SA blacks currently committing a GENOCIDE against Whites are just "black nationalists" huh? They already have control of the government, yet are still slaughtering whites and mutilating their corpses. But everything's good in the hood according to mofo. Speaking of "racism", I don't hear you speaking against the racist murders of Whites in South Africa or the SA blacks chanting song like "kill the boers". In fact you SUPPORT these people. Your hero Mandela joins in on the hateful hymn when he thinks the cameras were off.

[youtube:3m5cjrmw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT4SLj5l3f0[/youtube]3m5cjrmw]

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

MSMD, you are such a hypocrite. Now you are posting videos by a Christian nationalist.

[Moe Foe]

How does that prove Jews weren't behind the downfall of the White South African government?

Now your moving the goalposts.  You expect me to prove a negative...?  The burden of proof is on you here to show that Jews were behind the downfall of the White South African government.  

All that proves is that Jews leeched off of another White European regime for their own selfish interests and then tore it down when they had no more use for it.

You seem to be ignoring a key factor here - the considerable black/coloured and then powerless and ostracised majority -- rebellion was inevitable.

And the Boers didn't forge alliances with London they fought two wars against the British Rothschild-pawns.

Yes they did, and then consolidated power between themselves.  Krueger was on very close terms with Barnato for example.

And I already explained to you that Communist Jews like Joe Slovo, his wife and Ronnie Kasrils, were behind the ANC. I already proved to you that South African Jews were massively disproportionately involved in "revolutionary activity" against the White government of South Africa. I already showed you that two Jewish congressman, Steven Solarz and Howard Wolpe, in the US government led the charge to topple the White SA government, and the Jewish-owned media worldwide demonized the Whites of South Africa and Rhodesia and openly called for their demise (while at the same time supporting the Israeli apartheid state which is hardly comparable to the White gov't of SA). This article uses almost solely Jewish sources to prove that: http://zionistdevils.blogspot.com/2011/ ... frica.html

Denying these facts is delusional.

I'm not denying them it's just in this case I can see your Jews and raise you.  They were Jews on both sides, perhaps they were hedging their bets? I dunno, what I do know is that you can't see things objectively here because you romantacise the Boers; who were glorified imperialist squatters essentially, because they were white.  

Riiight, these SA blacks currently committing a GENOCIDE against Whites are just "black nationalists" huh? They already have control of the government, yet are still slaughtering whites and mutilating their corpses. But everything's good in the hood according to mofo. Speaking of "racism", I don't hear you speaking against the racist murders of Whites in South Africa or the SA blacks chanting song like "kill the boers". In fact you SUPPORT these people. Your hero Mandela joins in on the hateful hymn when he thinks the cameras were off.

Ever the hyperbolist and this time with alliteration, "hateful hymn" haha.  Anyway, I assume you know that these farm attacks almost always involve theft and aren't exclusively targetting white landowners?  Therefore you'd have some argument to stretch that to "genocide" but of course I don't agree with thugerry.  As far the song, I have a different insight coming from Ireland and our history of rebel songs.  I'm not going to lose any sleep over someone singing a song.

[checkitb4uwreckit]

And I already explained to you that Communist Jews like Joe Slovo, his wife and Ronnie Kasrils, were behind the ANC. I already proved to you that South African Jews were massively disproportionately involved in "revolutionary activity" against the White government of South Africa. I already showed you that two Jewish congressman, Steven Solarz and Howard Wolpe, in the US government led the charge to topple the White SA government, and the Jewish-owned media worldwide demonized the Whites of South Africa and Rhodesia and openly called for their demise (while at the same time supporting the Israeli apartheid state which is hardly comparable to the White gov't of SA). This article uses almost solely Jewish sources to prove that: http://zionistdevils.blogspot.com/2011/ ... frica.html

Denying these facts is delusional.

I'm not denying them it's just in this case I can see your Jews and raise you.  They were Jews on both sides, perhaps they were hedging their bets? I dunno, what I do know is that you can't see things objectively here because you romantacise the Boers; who were glorified imperialist squatters essentially, because they were white.  

Oh but you were denying these facts quite staunchly before. In fact, you actually claimed that the reason so many Jews joined sides with the blacks to overthrow the White SA government was for purely "ethical" reasons. Essentially you were trying to convince us that Jews support black causes because they are kind-hearted humanitarians "rooting for the underdog" or some nonsense to that effect. You know that is a crock of b.s. so I can't see how that makes you anything but a liar for Jewry.

Riiight, these SA blacks currently committing a GENOCIDE against Whites are just "black nationalists" huh? They already have control of the government, yet are still slaughtering whites and mutilating their corpses. But everything's good in the hood according to mofo. Speaking of "racism", I don't hear you speaking against the racist murders of Whites in South Africa or the SA blacks chanting song like "kill the boers". In fact you SUPPORT these people. Your hero Mandela joins in on the hateful hymn when he thinks the cameras were off.

Ever the hyperbolist and this time with alliteration, "hateful hymn" haha.  Anyway, I assume you know that these farm attacks almost always involve theft and aren't exclusively targetting white landowners?  Therefore you'd have some argument to stretch that to "genocide" but of course I don't agree with thugerry.  As far the song, I have a different insight coming from Ireland and our history of rebel songs.  I'm not going to lose any sleep over someone singing a song.

No, these farm murders are racially motivated hence the blood-curdling mutilations of the corpses after the white victims are dead. These are hate crimes. But the Jew media won't ever report them as such, let alone report them at all. GenocideWatch.org has listed the situation as stage 6 genocide against Whites in SA. Obviously you're not gonna lose any sleep over it because you hate white people and are rooting for their demise. You have a bleeding heart when it comes to non-whites being victimized, such as Palestinians, but when whites are the victims of organized black racist attacks you either deny, downplay or condone the brutality.

If you love blacks so much why don't you go live in Africa, or at least move into a black or non-white neighborhood in the European country in which you dwell, mofo? Funny how all these white liberals, and marxist antifa fools all live comfortably in the West, among whites, and refuse to go live with the people they claim to be defending from "racism" and "bigotry". What good are you doing for the blacks by sitting on your computer playing the ANTIFA troll on forums? Go to Africa and join the "black struggle" there! You won't do that because you, and those like you, are a bunch of lying commie hypocrites. Western Jews preach "tolerance" all day long and lead the charge for "integration" yet they would not be caught dead in a Black or Hispanic neighborhood!

[checkitb4uwreckit]

Let's move this discussion to a more appropriate thread. Mods can feel free to move these off-topic posts about South Africa to this thread: viewtopic.php?f=21&t=15262

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

Reisman continues to leave out Freud and the Frankfurt Jews who brought porn and pedophilia to America.

[youtube:3e9t37ym]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkQ7SciK6rY[/youtube]3e9t37ym]

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

OH! She couldn't help herself bringing up the "Nazi pedophile" yet again. Come on, Reisman, all that work you have done and you feel the need to rely on Nazi linking? Let your research do the work, not your ethnocentrism.

[checkitb4uwreckit]

Sounds like you're in love with this scraggly Jewess, Timmy Boy.

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

Dennis Nilsen: Jewish Homosexual Serial Killer



"Nilsen" is "Britain's Jeffrey Dahmer"--he killed at least 15 men & practiced necrophilia, sometimes keeping the bodies for months.

Wiki says his mother was a "strict Catholic" that warped his mind.  Father, Olav Magnus Moksheim, adopted the surname Nilsen (no explanation given for dropping the Jewish name).  Parents divorced when Dennis was 4.

Nilsen brought a judicial review against prison authorities against being forbidden to receive a gay porn magazine.  He also wrote a 4,000 page autobiography & took proceeding to fight being forbidden to publish it, later taking the case to European Court of Human Rights.

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

Mesirah and Child Sexual Abuse in Brooklyn



By Kevin MacDonald

Taki took time out from recounting what happened at his Christmas party to provide this interesting tidbit:

Speaking of little boys, leave it to The New York Times to find a front-page story unfit to print because it wasn't anti-Catholic: The Brooklyn DA recently arrested an astounding 85 Jewish Orthodox men on charges of child sex abuse. Back in 1985 a Hasidic "therapist" was indicted for abusing five boys, but police suspected he abused more than a hundred. Avrohom Mondrowitz fled to Israel, where he remains to this day a free man. Those nice guys who shoot rock-throwing Palestinian children refuse to extradite him. Brooklyn DA Charles Hynes now has to tread carefully. Fifty rabbis have signed a public announcement in Yiddish denouncing the Hasidic family who went to the cops. They asked—now get this—for any believer to kill the family that informed "on fellow Jews." So what will happen to the 85 perverts? All I know is the Times has not published a word, whereas when the Catholic Church sex scandal broke, it led the news in the front page for months. There is something very evil when rabbis who hate the non-Jewish world can dictate to an abused child's parents whether or not to talk to the mostly non-Jewish fuzz. If some parent were to go and firebomb the Times, we might see it appear on the back pages.

Another egregious example of mesirah (including a death threat), and a nice comment illustrating how the Jewish sensibility of the Times deals with religion—a modern version of mesirah in its refusal to publish anything negative about its favorite religion/ethnic group. And then there's the point about Israel not extraditing Jewish criminals—another topic the Times would rather avoid.

There is no question that mesirah has its intended effect. Few of the perpetrators will go to prison as a result of community pressure against informing on Jews:

So far, about 38 cases in the Brooklyn D.A.'s Project Kol Tzedek — which the [New York] Post translates as Hebrew for "voice of justice" ... — have been closed, with just under two thirds resulting in the perps walking free. Many pleaded to lesser changes, with the Post claiming that some got off mostly scot-free because "victims or their parents backed out under community pressure." (see here)

I confess that in reading about all this sexual abuse among Orthodox Jews I can't help thinking about the videos in Trudie Pert's recent article on Rebbe Schneerson. All that touching and dancing among men: Very strong male bonding (part of Alan Deshowitz's comment on "Yiddishkeit"), but definitely not the sort of thing that is considered normal behavior by adult men.

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I am reminded also of Edward Norden's 1995 Commentary article "From Schnitzler to Kushner" which discusses the very large oeuvre of homosexual Jewish playwrights:



Could it be that homosexual tendencies are part of the intense social glue of traditional Jewish societies—which manage to have their cake and eat it too by also insisting on procreation and large families?

Someone sent me a link to a very interesting paper ("The Disposable Jew: Reflections on Child Sexual Abuse and Religious Culture"; downloadable here) written by Michael Lesher, an orthodox Jew himself and an attorney who represents some of Mondrowitz's victims. Lesher shows how deeply ingrained mesirah is in these communities. It is also a testimony to their extreme collectivism and authoritarianism. Victims and their families fail to inform because they understand that it will damage their position in the community, including the marriage prospects of the entire family–a very ancient form of punishment in traditional Jewish communities.

He also argues that sexual abuse is enabled because of traditional Jewish religious thinking in which people have no natural right to use their bodies as they wish, but rather this right is granted by someone with higher power–an aspect of  traditional Jewish authoritarianism.  Note also the statement by a prominent rabbi that the "argument of 'truth should not be suppressed' is one originating from the non-Jewish world." Contrast that with the masthead of American Renaissance which features Thomas Jefferson's statement,   "There is not a truth existing which I fear or would wish unknown to the whole world."

Truth has no importance in traditional Jewish society. What is important are group interests as determined by all-powerful rabbis–so powerful that even child sexual abuse may be perpetrated with impunity. The result is that truth is nothing more than consensus: The Orthodox "define reality conspiratorially, by a consensus of believers, avoiding the risks of an appeal to reason." This is precisely how I characterized the ideology of Jewish intellectual and political movements (Ch. 6 of CofC, p. 237):

A fundamental aspect of Jewish intellectual history has been the realization that there is really no demonstrable difference between truth and consensus. Within traditional Jewish religious discourse, "truth" was the prerogative of a privileged interpretive elite that in traditional societies consisted of the scholarly class within the Jewish community. Within this community, "truth" and "reality" were nothing more (and were undoubt-edly perceived as nothing more) than consensus within a sufficiently large portion of the interpretive community.

Some excerpts from "The Disposable Jew":

Costs of Informing and Pressure against Informing

The religious community's lack of interest – or worse – in their abuse lives on in these people [i.e., victims] as an element of their trauma. Nearly all of them tell me they cannot openly describe their experience to this day, not while simultaneously meeting the demands of a religious society that frowns on bringing "shame" to one's family – or one's rabbis. ...

Michael still lives in a fervently religious community, but he has never been able to trust rabbinic authorities as he once did. He rarely feels safe sharing his experience; he is concerned that it could mark him, and his family, as different from others, as faintly suspect. Today a handful of people know. His wife is among them, but she is very fearful of strangers finding out, lest the news interfere with their children's marriage prospects. This, she and Michael believe, is all that speaking openly would accomplish among their coreligionists. ...

"Jacob" is also typical of many Mondrowitz victims. [Avrahom Mondrowitz is the non-extradictable rabbi mentioned by Taki who has lived happily in Israel since 1984. According to Lesher, Mondrowitz "sodomized or otherwise abused hundreds of Orthodox Jewish children in the early 1980s." The only reason he was caught was because he began preying on Italian children who eventually went to the police.] He is bitter when he describes how Orthodox rabbis, fearful of the sort of publicity Mondrowitz's arrest and trial would have brought to Brooklyn's ultra-Orthodox Jews, worked behind the scenes for decades to prevent Mondrowitz's prosecution. ...

"Why do you think," he asks, "that it took so many years for him to be reported to the police in the first place? While he was abusing kids the whole time. You think nobody knew? Plenty of rabbis knew. But he only got in trouble when he went after the Italian kids on his block. . . . Our community never wanted him reported." ...

In other words, child abuse victims must expect to pay a heavy price when their abuse is reported to the police, since this will inevitably fuel unpleasant publicity. What we encounter here strikes me as the complete inversion of the moral relationship of abuser to victim – in this view, the victim's accurate report is worse than the original crime! Yet so far as I know, Rabbi Blau's accusation that "scandal" threatened against the abuser and his family commands more compassion from Jewish leadership than the devastation of actual child sexual abuse – to past and future victims, to their families, and to the community itself – has never been denied. ...

"Report him to the police? I don't think that occurred to anybody. Not even me," says Michael. "No, it wouldn't be done. Nobody would do it. . . .

Even now I don't talk about it. My family is afraid it will look bad for all of us if I do." "I've talked to quite a few rabbis, including some very high up, and some of them have seemed to be very sympathetic," says another victim. "But over the years, even knowing that Mondrowitz was still free, a pedophile with a long history of abuse, they never advised doing anything that would bring in law enforcement." (I will add that in 2006, when I found there was a way to reach more victims of Mondrowitz who might have been interested in publicly demanding his prosecution, needing only the approval of a prominent Orthodox rabbi to effectuate the contacts, I could not obtain the needed say-so.) ...

Jewish Religious Ideology Enables Child Sexual Abuse

In any situation involving the violent use of a child it is the adult's perspective, not the child's, that matters; second, that one must never ask why this is so. ...

New compilations of Jewish sex law are not hard to find; what is more, they are notable for assiduous detail in their catalogues of prohibited acts. But for all the stern moralizing to be found about, say, the evil of sleeping on one's back (which may invite masturbation) or of a nine-year-old boy being left alone in the same room with an unmarried adult woman (for fear of an unexpected sexual encounter), these texts say nothing at all about child abuse. The rules forbidding the seclusion of a man and woman are given no application, even in the most recent religio-legal texts, to a situation involving a pedophile and a child. ...

To the passages in Hosea and Ezekiel already quoted, we may add (for instance) the prophecy of Isaiah 47:2-3, in which divine retribution is gloatingly described in synecdoche as sexual violation: ". . .

Uncover your hair, make bare your leg, uncover the thigh . . . Your nakedness shall be uncovered, yea, your shame shall be seen." As I have suggested, what is most important about such passages is not their obscenity – though that is striking enough – but the twin assumptions that sexuality is properly an instrument of humiliation, and that one's sexual integrity is neither a right nor a natural human condition, but a privilege bestowed (or revoked) at will by a more powerful being. ...

Attitudes of Jewish authorities:

Resistance from traditional authorities is equally fierce whether or not criminal prosecution appears to be in question. In 2006, spurred by Internet blogs, serious evidence began to circulate through Orthodox institutions – and the press – that prominent yeshivos had ignored or suppressed repeated reports of child sexual abuse by certain rabbis. What was Orthodox Judaism's institutional response? Barely two months after Rabbi Blau's harsh assessment appeared on the Internet, Agudath Israel of America, one of the country's most influential Orthodox organizations, dotted the i's and crossed the t's of his point by devoting the bulk of a session at its national convention to warning its members not to read the Internet blogs containing the accusations! ...

A Concern with Truth Is Un-Jewish:

This Orthodox Jew (his emails made his religious affiliation evident) was oblivious to the irony of attempting to protect Rabbi Salomon and his community from Rabbi Salomon's own words. In fact, when I suggested to him that there was an obvious value in knowing what a prominent rabbi had said about a subject of public concern – not simply what someone's Public Relations Dept. would like him to have said – he scoffed that the "argument of 'truth should not be suppressed' is one originating from the non-Jewish world." Q.E.D. ...

That is why the traditional community cannot forgive those who, in the blog administrator's words, do not suppress the truth. Child abusers may be criminals; those who publicly tell the truth about them are worse. They are traitors. They have betrayed not only a community but a tenet of religious culture, a point d'honneur. ...

I tasted the fruits of this style of thinking when I appeared on ABC's Nightline in 2006 to discuss the (then) stalled case against Avrohom Mondrowitz. On my clients' behalf, I explained that only public pressure could spur a renewed effort to obtain the extradition of this indicted felon from Israel to New York, to face the first-degree sodomy and child abuse charges still extant against him. One of Mondrowitz's many victims, Mark Weiss, appeared on the program with me, as did Dr. Amy Neustein – all of us Orthodox Jews – to stress the damage Mondrowitz had allegedly wreaked on a staggering number of children (nearly all of them Jewish). We also spoke about the D.A.'s politically-motivated reluctance to pursue him, apparently under pressure from the community, and the vital need to have Mondrowitz finally brought to justice. Many Orthodox Jews reacted to my public statements precisely along the Shafran/Schick line. I was assured that even publicity for the sake of justice was worse than child abuse – and that truth was never the priority of a religious Jew. ...

Perhaps a religion that still teaches its adherents that not washing their hands upon awakening will cause insanity or a propensity to sin is bound to define reality conspiratorially, by a consensus of believers, avoiding the risks of an appeal to reason. But I suspect the issue is less intellectual than cultural. Over the last two hundred years, patronized by Biblical scholars, sidelined by historians, Orthodoxy has learned to strike back by claiming the moral high ground over its critics, who are scornfully presumed to wallow in modernity's ethical quicksands. But insisting on our creed's ethical superiority has involved us in canonizing our rabbis (the creed's exemplars). And this in turn has converted each new revelation of sex abuse by a rabbi into an attack on Orthodoxy itself. Thus my public advocacy for Mondrowitz's victims – even though the victims were Orthodox Jews – was rewarded with challenges to my own Orthodoxy.

Yeshiva University Suppresses Truth About Sexual Abuse

Lest anyone accuse me of special pleading, I will note that several years earlier the same thing happened to a student at Yeshiva University (now an Orthodox rabbi), who had the temerity to write a few lines in the school newspaper in support of The Jewish Week's articles accusing Rabbi Baruch Lanner of sexually abusing female students (for which Lanner was ultimately convicted and jailed). University officials, sensing that Orthodoxy's institutional shibboleths were threatened by the accusations, attacked the (accurate) newspaper articles – and the Orthodox student who defended them – with the breathtaking claim that they were part of a "conspiracy" against all Orthodoxy:.. [Rabbi Mordechai] Willig threatened to get funding cut for the student newspaper [the former student wrote]. . . .

For more than a year the rabbis and Rosh Yeshiva [principal] continued to defend Lanner and mock Rosenblatt [editor of The Jewish Week] as a heretic and hater of Torah values. They claimed the criminal investigation was a conspiracy against Orthodox Jews. . . Never mind that Rosenblatt, too, publicly describes himself as Orthodox, and that his newspaper prominently displays opinion columns by Orthodox rabbis. Never mind that the evidence against Lanner was decisive (as a New Jersey criminal court ultimately confirmed). Never mind that Yeshiva University prides itself on the integration of Orthodox Judaism with secular society, presumably including secular law enforcement. None of that mattered to Yeshiva University's rabbis in the face of the charges against Rabbi Lanner. They abandoned the facts in favor of a silly paranoid slander the moment they detected a threat to the rabbinate's moral prestige; like my critics, they still thought of truth as an instrument, not an imperative, and did not know that in taking sides against it they were trivializing the religion they thought they were defending.

Group Goals are More Important than Individual Lives

The cases with which I am familiar do not make me optimistic. And I am not alone. My clients affirm that the long shadow of Jewish hierarchies has darkened their experience as victims, compounding their sense of outrage. "It wasn't enough," says one, "that I was used and thrown away by Mondrowitz. When I wanted to tell people about what he had done, I found out I could be thrown away by them too. Other things were more important than the truth about what happened to me. There was a community, there was our image. There were other things to worry about: strengthening the anti-Semites. Making rabbis look bad. These issues were just more important than I was." All too often, deliberately or not, the lesson taught to abuse survivors is that they are expendable, while the social order they threaten is not. The irony is not lost on these people. They begin as victims of individual attackers; in the end, they see themselves as victims of a Jewish community in which their status is suddenly equivocal. Neither their need for justice nor the truth of their traumatic experience can compete with the community's stubborn hierarchical priorities. Even after gaining the strength to face the reality of their abuse, survivors find that they also have to recognize their marginality in a world they once called their own. They have become disposable Jews.

Authoritarianism Facilitates Sexual Abuse:

In the traditional Jewish world, sexuality is as much rabbinically governed as are the dietary codes, or the order of prayers. Jewish law concerns itself with every aspect of sex: when, how, where, why – and every twist in the law means another opening for rabbinic decision-making. Young Jews learn sexual prohibitions – against masturbation, against seclusion, against male-female touching – from rabbi/teachers. Even adult married couples consult rabbis to determine when intercourse is forbidden or obligatory. Jewish law applies to the timing, position, even the motives for sex. In all but the most literal sense, Orthodox Jews are expected to bring their rabbis into the bedroom with them....

And here a vicious circle closes itself: Orthodox Jews are trained, from childhood on, to yield to other people – to rabbis – the ultimate control over their own sexuality; yet when sexually abused by a rabbi, an Orthodox Jewish child is now told by religious authorities that he must complain about the violation – to a rabbi! Can Orthodox Jews surrender their most intimate personal space to clergymen, and simultaneously repudiate the assumption of intimate control – by some of the same clergymen – that forms the gravamen of sexual abuse? And will other rabbis support the victims if they do? Has the traditional community even recognized the nature of the problem? ...

I am certain that abusive rabbis have recognized it. My clients say that Mondrowitz exploited their submissiveness to secure his sexual dominance. As one victim explained to me, "He told me not to question him, that he knew what was best for me, that he understood things I didn't. And it was so much like the way rabbis talk about other things that I believed him."

Child Sexual Abuse in Orthodox Communities is therefore "not just an aberration":

Maybe I am asking too much. But at least we must stop claiming that child sex abuse among Jews is merely an aberration, an irruption of pathology into an otherwise sound moral structure. Avi Shafran, writing for Agudath Israel, exemplified this fallacy when he described abuse as a failure of self-discipline:

To be sure, there will always be observant individuals who sometimes fail the test of self-control . . . But that no more indicts Jewish observance than the fact that there are corrupt police or drug-addled doctors renders law enforcement or medicine suspect.

Reducing the evil of child sexual abuse to a question of "self-control" does more than minimize the scope of the problem. More fundamentally, it betrays abuse victims by treating sexual assaults as mere lapses, to be corrected by stricter adherence to the existing code. The subtle correlative is that abuse victims have nothing to teach the community; the message thus simultaneously reassures Orthodoxy of the perfection of its creed and reminds the victims to hold their peace. I have shown that this basic error has deep roots in traditional Jewish thought. But that fact only underscores the urgency of rethinking our approach. To the extent we continue to use Shafran's diagnosis, we are simply refusing to hear what the victims are telling us, and we cannot claim to care for the victims while being so indifferent, so willfully deaf, to the meaning of their experience.

Source: http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/20 ... -brooklyn/

[whale]

That was an very good article on Reisman, nice one.  

Just reading this again, says it all http://www.whale.to/b/hidden_tyranny.html

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

Thanks, whale, Part 2 is coming up shortly. It;s going to be even better.