Rabbi Chemor Letter to Sanhedrin a nice alternative to the Protocols

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

In 1492, Chemor, chief Rabbi of Spain, wrote to the Grand Sanhedrin, which had its seat in Constantinople, for advice, when a Spanish law threatened expulsion.2

This was the reply:

" Beloved brethren in Moses, we have received your letter in which you tell us of the anxieties and misfortunes which you are enduring. We are pierced by as great pain to hear it as yourselves.

The advice of the Grand Satraps and Rabbis is the following:

1. As for what you say that the King of Spain obliges you to become Christians: do it, since you cannot do otherwise.

2. As for what you say about the command to despoil you of your property: make your sons merchants that they may despoil, little by little, the Christians of theirs.

3. As for what you say about making attempts on your lives: make your sons doctors and apothecaries, that they may take away Christians' lives.

4. As for what you say of their destroying your synagogues: make your sons canons and clerics in order that they may destroy their churches. [Emphasis mine]

5. As for the many other vexations you complain of: arrange that your sons become advocates and lawyers, and see that they always mix in affairs of State, that by putting Christians under your yoke you may dominate the world and be avenged on them.

6. Do not swerve from this order that we give you, because you will find by experience that, humiliated as you are, you will reach the actuality of power.

(Signed) PRINCE OF THE JEWS OF CONSTANTINOPLE."

2. The reply is found in the sixteenth century Spanish book, La Silva Curiosa, by Julio-Iniguez de Medrano (Paris, Orry, 1608), on pages 156 and 157, with the following explanation: "This letter following was found in the archives of Toledo by the Hermit of Salamanca, (while) searching the ancient records of the kingdoms of Spain; and, as it is expressive and remarkable, I wish to write it here." — vide, photostat facing page 80.

[Panoptimist]

Lord have mercy.

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

Lord have mercy.

It's basically the Protocols summed up in six points, no?

[Panoptimist]

So it seems.

The extent and methodology of this subversion is extremely unsettling. They've basically got all points covered. Basically a phantasma of reality.

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Deceit A lo que dezís qu´el Rey d´España oz haze volver Christianos, que lo hagáis pues no podéis hazer otro.

Theft A lo que dezís que os mandan quitar vuestras haziendas, hazed vuestros hijos mercaderes, para que poco a poco les quiten las suyas.

Kill A lo que dezís que os quitan las vidas, hazed vuestros hijos médicos y apotecarios, para que les quiten las suyas.

Destroy A lo que dezís que os destruyen vuestras Sinagogas, hazed vuestros hijos cléricos y theólogos, para que les destruyan sus templos.

Infiltrate I a lo que dezís que os hazen otras vexationes, procurad que vuestros hijos sean abogados , procuradores, notarios y consejeros, y que siempre entiendan en negotios de Repúblicas, para que sujetándolos ganéis tierra y os podáis vengar d´ellos. Y no salgáis d´esta orden que os damos porque por experientia veréis que de abatidos vernéis a ser tenidos en algo.


Antecedentes

Talmud y cartas de judíos de España



El primer y principal antecedente es el libro sagrado de los judíos, el Talmud. Es ahí donde se encuentra la raíz de la ideología de la supremacía y el pensamiento de dominio imperialista y explotador.

Otro antecedente muy interesante lo encontramos en relación a un extracto del libro La silva Curiosa de Julián Medrano (libro escrito en el año 1540) donde podemos leer lo siguiente:

"Esta carta siguiente fue hallada por el Ermitaño de Salamanca en los Archibos de Toledo, buscando las antigüedades de los Reinos d´España; y, pues ella es sentida y notable, quiero escribirte la aquí.

Carta de los Judíos d'España a los de Constantinopla

Judíos honrrados: salud y gracia. Sepades que el Rey d'España por pregón público nos haze volver Christianos. Y nos quittan las haziendas y nos quittan las vidas, y nos destruyen nuestras Sinagogas, y nos hazen otras vexationes; las quales nos tienen confusos y inciertos de lo que debemos de hazer. Por la Lei de Moisén, os rogamos y suplicamos tengáis en bien de hazer ayuntamiento, & imbiarnos con toda brevedad la deliberatión que en ello huviéredes fecho.
Chamorra, Príncipe de los Judíos d´España.





Respuesta de los Judíos de Constantinopla a los Judíos d´España

Amados hermanos en Moisén: Vuestra carta recibimos,en la qual nos significáis los trabajos & infortunios que padescéis, de los quales el sentimiento nos a cabido tanta parte como a vosotros. El parescer de los grandes Sátrapas y Rabí es lo siguiente.
A lo que dezís qu´el Rey d´España oz haze volver Christianos, que lo hagáis pues no podéis hazer otro. A lo que dezís que os mandan quitar vuestras haziendas, hazed vuestros hijos mercaderes, para que poco a poco les quiten las suyas. A lo que dezís que os quitan las vidas, hazed vuestros hijos médicos y apotecarios, para que les quiten las suyas. A lo que dezís que os destruyen vuestras Sinagogas, hazed vuestros hijos cléricos y theólogos, para que les destruyan sus templos. I a lo que dezís que os hazen otras vexationes, procurad que vuestros hijos sean abogados , procuradores, notarios y consejeros, y que siempre entiendan en negotios de Repúblicas, para que sujetándolos ganéis tierra y os podáis vengar d´ellos. Y no salgáis d´esta orden que os damos porque por experientia veréis que de abatidos vernéis a ser tenidos en algo.
Ussuff, Príncipe de los Judíos de Constantinopla."


Es de notar la similitud de este texto antiguo con el tono que encontramos en lo que con los años se desarrolló y convirtió en los Protocolos.

http://es.metapedia.org/wiki/Los_Protocolos_de_los_Sabios_de_Si%C3%B3n#Antecedentes

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2.1 How The Protocols Came To Russia

The word " protocol "i was used to signify a fly-leaf pasted at the top of an official document, bearing either the opening formula or a summary of the contents for convenient reference. The original draft of a treaty was usually pasted on in this way, that the signatories might check the correctness of the engrossed copy before signing. The draft itself being based on the discussion at the conference, the word came to mean also the minutes of the proceedings.

In this instance " the protocols " mean the " draft of the plan of action " of the Jewish leaders. There have been many such drafts at different periods in Jewish history since the dispersion, but few of them have come into general circulation. In all, the principles and morality are as old as the tribe. By way of illustration we give an instance which occurred in the fifteenth century.

In 1492, Chemor, chief Rabbi of Spain, wrote to the Grand Sanhedrin, which had its seat in Constantinople, for advice, when a Spanish law threatened expulsion.2 This was the reply:

    " Beloved brethren in Moses, we have received your letter in which you tell us of the anxieties and misfortunes which you are enduring. We are pierced by as great pain to hear it as yourselves. The advice of the Grand Satraps and Rabbis is the following:

   1. As for what you say that the King of Spain 3 obliges you to become Christians: do it, since you cannot do otherwise.
   2. As for what you say about the command to despoil you of your property: make your sons merchants that they may despoil, little by little, the Christians of theirs.
   3. As for what you say about making attempts on your lives: make your sons doctors and apothecaries, that they may take away Christians' lives.
   4. As for what you say of their destroying your syna gogues: make your sons canons and clerics in order that they may destroy their churches.
   5. As for the many other vexations you complain of: arrange that your sons become advocates and lawyers, and see that they always mix in affairs of State, that by putting Christians under your yoke you may dominate the world and be avenged on them.
   6. Do not swerve from this order that we give you, because you will find by experience that, humiliated as you are, you will reach the actuality of power.

(Signed) PRINCE OF THE JEWS OF CONSTANTINOPLE."

The protocols given to the world by Nilus are only the latest known edition of the Jewish leaders programme. The story of how the latter came into general circulation is an interesting one.

In 1884 the daughter of a Russian general, Mile. Justine Glinka, was endeavouring to serve her country in Paris by obtaining political information, which she communicated to General Orgevskii4 in St. Petersburg. For this purpose she employed a Jew, Joseph Schorst,5 member of the Miz-raim Lodge in Paris. One day Schorst offered to obtain for her a document of great importance to Russia, on payment of 2,500 francs. This sum being received from St. Petersburg was paid over and the document handed to Mile. Glinka.6

She forwarded the French original, accompanied by a Russian translation, to Orgevskii, who in turn handed it to his chief, General Cherevin, for transmission to the Tsar. But Cherevin, under obligation to wealthy Jews, refused to transmit it, merely riling it in the archives.7

Meantime there appeared in Paris certain books on Russian court life8 which displeased the Tsar, who ordered his secret police to discover their authorship. This was falsely attributed, perhaps with malicious intent,9 to Mile. Glinka, and on her return to Russia she was banished to her estate in Orel. To the marechal de noblesse of this district, Alexis Sukhotin, Mile. Glinka gave a copy of the Protocols. Sukhotin showed the document to two friends, Stepanov and Nilus; the former had it printed and circulated privately in 1897; the second, Professor Sergius A. Nilus, published it for the first time in Tsarskoe-Tselo (Russia) in 1901, in a book entitled The Great Within the Small. Then, about the same time, a friend of Nilus, G. Butmi, also brought it out and a copy was deposited in the British Museum on August 10, 1906.

Meantime, through Jewish members10 of the Russian police, minutes of the proceedings of the Basle congress11 in 1897 had been obtained and these were found to correspond with the Protocols.12

In January 1917, Nilus had prepared a second edition, revised and documented, for publication. But before it could be put on the market, the revolution of March 1917 had taken place, and Kerenskii, who had succeeded to power, ordered the whole edition of Nilus's book to be destroyed. In 1924, Prof. Nilus was arrested by the Cheka in Kiev, imprisoned, and tortured; he was told by the Jewish president of the court, that this treatment was meted out to him for " having done them incalculable harm in publishing the Protocols ". Released for a few months, he was again led before the G. P. U. (Cheka), this time in Moscow and confined. Set at liberty in February 1926, he died in exile in the district of Vladimir on January 13, 1929.

A few copies of Nilus's second edition were saved and sent to other countries where they were published: in Germany, by Gottfreid zum Beek (1919); in England, by The Britons (1920); in France, by Mgr. Jouin in La Revue Internationale des Sociétés Secrètes, and by Urbain Gohier in La Vieille France; in the United States, by Small, Maynard & Co. (Boston 1920), and by The Beckwith Co (New York 1921). Later, editions appeared in Italian, Russian, Arabic, and even in Japanese.

Such is the simple story of how these Protocols reached Russia and thence came into general circulation.

Mr. Stepanov's deposition'3 relative to it is here given as corroboration.

    " In 1895, my neighbour in the district of Toula, Major (retired) Alexis Sukhotin, gave me a manuscript copy of the Protocols of the Wise Men of Zion. He told me that a lady of his acquaintance, whose name he did not mention, residing in Paris, had found it at the house of a friend, a Jew. Before leaving Paris, she had secretly translated it and had brought this one copy to Russia and given it to Sukhotin.

    "At first I mimeographed this translation, but finding it difficult to read, I resolved to have it printed, making no mention of the date, town, or printer's name. In this I was helped by Arcadii Ippolitovich Kelepovskii, who at that time was chief of the household of Grand Duke Sergius.

He gave the document to be printed by the district printing press. This took place in 1897. Sergius Nilus inserted these Protocols in his work and added his own commentary. (Signed) PHILIP PETROVICH STEPANOV."

Formerly Procurator of the Synod of Moscow, Chamberlain, Privy Councillor, and (in 1897) Chief of the Moscow Kursk Railway in the town of Orel. April 17, 1927.

Witnessed by PRINCE DIMITRI GALITZIN. President of the Russian Colony of Emigrants at Stari Fontag.

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1. From Greek, protos (first) + holla (glue).

2. The reply is found in the sixteenth century Spanish book, La Silva Curiosa, by Julio-Iniguez de Medrano (Paris, Orry, 1608), on pages 156 and 157, with the following explanation: " This letter following was found in the archives of Toledo by the Hermit of Salamanca, (while) searching the ancient records of the kingdoms of Spain; and, as it is expressive and remarkable, I wish to write it here."—vide, photostat facing page 80.

3. Ferdinand.

4. At that time Secretary to the Minister of the Interior, General Cherevin.

5. Alias Schapiro, whose father had been sentenced in London, two years previous, to ten years penal servitude for counterfeiting.

6. Schorst fled to Egypt where, according to French police archives, he was murdered.

7. On his death in 1896, he willed a copy of his memoirs containing the Protocols to Nicholas II.

8. Published under the pseudonym " Count Vassilii", their real author was Mme. Juliette Adam, using material furnished by Princess Demidov-San Donate, Princess Radzivill, and other Russians.

9. Among the Jews in the Russian secret service in Paris was Maniulov, whose odious character is drawn by M. Pateologue, Memoires.

10. Notably Eno Azev and Efrom. The latter, formerly a rabbi, died in 1925 in a monastery in Serbia, where he had taken refuge; he used to tell the monks that the protocols were but a small part of Jewish plans for ruling the world and a feeble expression of their hatred of the gentiles.

11. Supra, Part I.

12. The Russian government had learned that at meetings of the B'nai Brith in New-York in 1893-94, Jacob Schiff (supra, 52, 53) had been named chairman of the committee on the revol utionary movement in Russia.

13. The translation is the author's; appended facing page 81. a photostat of the original is

http://www.iamthewitness.com/books/Denis.Fahey/Waters.Flowing.Eastward/2.1.How.The.Protocols.Came.To.Russia.htm

Jakob Venedey



This text is copied from The Bankindex who claim NOT know who he or she is. The piece came in through one of theirr forms and the Author left an unusable e-mail address.

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Posted 6/21/2002

Scripturereferences etc inserted by 100777.com

 

An illusion it will be, so large, so vast it will escape their perception.

King of Kings' Bible Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out to the earth, and his angels (you - Luke 9:55) were cast out with him (Matthew 25:41).

Those who will see it will be thought of as insane.

We will create separate fronts to prevent them from seeing the connection between us.

We will behave as if we are not connected to keep the illusion alive. *Our goal will be accomplished one drop at a time so as to never bring suspicion upon ourselves. This will also prevent them from seeing the changes as they occur.

* fabianism

We will always stand above the relative field of their experience for we know the secrets of the absolute.

We will work together always and will remain bound by blood and secrecy. Death will come to he who speaks.

We will keep their lifespan short and their minds weak while pretending to do the opposite.

We will use our knowledge of science and technology in subtle ways so they will never see what is happening.

We will use soft metals, aging accelerators and sedatives in food and water, also in the air.

They will be blanketed by poisons everywhere they turn.

The soft metals will cause them to lose their minds. We will promise to find a cure from our many fronts, yet we will feed them more poison.

 

    From The Protocols of The Elders of Zion andProofs of an Ancient Conspiracy

    In 1492, Chemor, Chief Rabbi of Spain received the following reply from the Grand Sanhedrin (Elders of Zion) to his plea for advice on how to deal with their threatened expulsion under Spanish Law; it illustrates well how the same ancient agenda was still being adhered to by the elect at this time:

    'Beloved brethren in Moses (another lie), we have received your letter in which you tell us of the anxieties and misfortunes which you are enduring. We are pierced by as great a pain to hear it as yourselves.

    The advice of the Grand Satraps and the Rabbis is the following:

    1. As for what you say that the king of Spain obliges you to become Christians: do it, since you cannot do otherwise.

    2. As for what you say about the command to despoil you of your property: make your sons merchants that they may despoil, little by little, the Christians of theirs.

    3. As for what you say about making attempts on your lives: make your sons doctors and apothecaries (pharmacists/chemists), that they may take away Christian's lives.

    4. As for what you say of their destroying your synagogues: make your sons canons and clerics in order that they may destroy their churches.

    5. As for the other vexations you complain of: arrange that your sons become advocates and lawyers, and see that they always mix in affairs of State, that by putting Christians under your yoke you may dominate the world and be avenged on them.

    6. Do not swerve from this order that we give you, because you will find by experience that, humiliated as you are, you will reach the actuality of power.
    (Signed) Prince of the Jews of Constantinople'
    (Julio-Inigrez de Medrano - 'La Silva Curiosa' 1608 my emphasis)

The poisons will be absorbed trough their skin and mouths, they will destroy their minds and reproductive systems.

From all this, their children will be born dead, and we will conceal this information.

The poisons will be hidden in everything that surrounds them, in what they drink, eat, breathe and wear.

We must be ingenious in dispensing the poisons for they can see far.

We will teach them that the poisons are good, with fun images and musical tones.

Those they look up to will help. We will enlist them to push our poisons.

They will see our products being used in film and will grow accustomed to them and will never know their true effect.

When they give birth we will inject poisons into the blood of their children and convince them its for their help.

We will start early on, when their minds are young, we will target their children with what children love most, sweet things.

When their teeth decay we will fill them with metals that will kill their mind and steal their future.

When their ability to learn has been affected, we will create medicine that will make them sicker and cause other diseases for which we will create yet more medicine.

We will render them docile and weak before us by our power.

They will grow depressed, slow and obese, and when they come to us for help, we will give them more poison.

We will focus their attention toward money and material goods so they many never connect with their inner self. We will distract them with fornication, external pleasures and games so they may never be one with the oneness of it all.

Their minds will belong to us and they will do as we say. If they refuse we shall find ways to implement mind-altering technology into their lives. We will use fear as our weapon.

We will establish their governments and establish opposites within. We will own both sides.

We will always hide our objective but carry out our plan.

They will perform the labor for us and we shall prosper from their toil.

Our families will never mix with theirs. Our blood must be pure always, for it is the way.

We will make them kill each other when it suits us.

We will keep them separated from the oneness by dogma and religion.

We will control all aspects of their lives and tell them what to think and how.

We will guide them kindly and gently letting them think they are guiding themselves.

We will foment animosity between them through our factions.

When a light shall shine among them, we shall extinguish it by ridicule, or death, whichever suits us best.

We will make them rip each other's hearts apart and kill their own children.

We will accomplish this by using hate as our ally, anger as our friend.

The hate will blind them totally, and never shall they see that from their conflicts we emerge as their rulers. They will be busy killing each other.

They will bathe in their own blood and kill their neighbors for as long as we see fit.

We will benefit greatly from this, for they will not see us, for they cannot see us.

We will continue to prosper from their wars and their deaths.

We shall repeat this over and over until our ultimate goal is accomplished.

We will continue to make them live in fear and anger though images and sounds.

We will use all the tools we have to accomplish this.

The tools will be provided by their labor.

We will make them hate themselves and their neighbors.

We will always hide the divine truth from them, that we are all one. This they must never know!

They must never know that color is an illusion, they must always think they are not equal.

Drop by drop, drop by drop we will advance our goal.

We will take over their land, resources and wealth to exercise total control over them.

We will deceive them into accepting laws that will steal the little freedom they will have.

We will establish a money system that will imprison them forever, keeping them and their children in debt.

When they shall ban together, we shall accuse them of crimes and present a different story to the world for we shall own all the media.

We will use our media to control the flow of information and their sentiment in our favor.

When they shall rise up against us we will crush them like insects, for they are less than that.

They will be helpless to do anything for they will have no weapons.

We will recruit some of their own to carry out our plans, we will promise them eternal life, but eternal life they will never have for they are not of us.

The recruits will be called "initiates" and will be indoctrinated to believe false rites of passage to higher realms. Members of these groups will think they are one with us never knowing the truth. They must never learn this truth for they will turn against us.

For their work they will be rewarded with earthly things and great titles, but never will they become immortal and join us, never will they receive the light and travel the stars.

They will never reach the higher realms, for the killing of their own kind will prevent passage to the realm of enlightenment. This they will never know.

The truth will be hidden in their face, so close they will not be able to focus on it until its too late.

Oh yes, so grand the illusion of freedom will be, that they will never know they are our slaves.

When all is in place, the reality we will have created for them will own them. This reality will be their prison. They will live in self-delusion.

When our goal is accomplished a new era of domination will begin.

Their minds will be bound by their beliefs, the beliefs we have established from time immemorial.

But if they ever find out they are our equal, we shall perish then. THIS THEY MUST NEVER KNOW.

If they ever find out that together they can vanquish us, they will take action.

    The ONLY Way to defeat them is The Plan

They must never, ever find out what we have done, for if they do, we shall have no place to run, for it will be easy to see who we are once the veil has fallen. Our actions will have revealed who we are and they will hunt us down and no person shall give us shelter.

This is the secret covenant by which we shall live the rest of our present and future lives, for this reality will transcend many generations and life spans.

This covenant is sealed by blood, our blood. We, the ones who from heaven to earth came.

This covenant must NEVER, EVER be known to exist. It must NEVER, EVER be written or spoken of for if it is, the consciousness it will spawn will release the fury of the PRIME CREATOR upon us and we shall be cast to the depths from whence we came and remain there until the end time of infinity itself.




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A comment : When the allusion to Rothschild as the author of the Protocols, well, that can alienate some people, but like in philosophy, is good to discuss all kind of stuff and bring all the sh*t to the light.

    The German leader Adolf Hitler proved the Protocols to be genuine. He also mentions the Protocols in his work Mein Kampf.
    Even if The Protocols were fake, it in no way means that the majority of jews do not use the techniques as described in the book.They obviously do.

    http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Protocols



The interesting think is that when you take a look to the English version of Metapedia there is not much over there . . .

    In 1921 Lucien Wolf, a Jewish writer, claimed that the Protocols plagarized a pamphlet from 1864 "Dialogue aux enfers entre Machiavel et Montesquieu" written by Maurice Joly. These claims were repeated in the newspaper The Times in August. Later it had been suggested that Matvei Golovinski wrote the Protocols.



. . . but in the Metapedia's Spanish version of the same Protocols issue is a lot more information . . .

http://es.metapedia.org/wiki/Los_Protoc ... _Si%C3%B3n

. . . we get this clues, I'll try now to quick translate this text :

Jacob Venedey (a Jew) published 1869 "The Dialogue in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu" this was written before Joly. Venedey had Karl Marx Rothchild as a very best friend. In 1843 Venedey was in England organizing another Secret Society so that Israel can dominate the world. (Comment, I wonder who was financing that actions :roll: )

http://es.metapedia.org/wiki/Los_Protoc ... ob_Venedey

Now we must repeat this one because is a very important argument

    Although the Protocols were viciously refuted by many on the left and Jewish radicals, and the authenticity of these texts are still hotly debated, part of the reason they gained such acceptance was that they agreed with many ideas that people already had about the Jews and that they contained the truth. Even if The Protocols were fake, it in no way means that the majority of jews do not use the techniques as described in the book.They obviously do.

    http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Protocols#Contents


    On 22 October 1806 in London [Nathan Mayer Rothschild] married Hannah Barent-Cohen (1783–1850), daughter of Levi Barent-Cohen (1747–1808) and wife Lydia Diamantschleifer and paternal granddaughter of Barent Cohen and wife, whose other son Salomon David Barent-Cohen (d. 1807) married Sara Brandes, great-grandparents of Karl Marx.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Mayer_Rothschild



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Someone speak German ? Some translation please ?
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Venedey

So, A lot of the expected connections are there : Jacob Venedey visiting England in 1843, House of Rothschild connections everywhere, thinktanks around with the "Protocols ideas" in embryo state, Joly already with "fame of plagiarism" and maybe Baron Rothschild didn't like Joly "spilling the beans" with his big mouth and then Joly committed of course "suicide", voilà mon cheri.

    Subsequent research points out that Joly appears to have plagiarized a good amount of the material from a popular novel by Eugene Sue, namely Les Mystères du peuple (1849-1856).

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Joly


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