TFC/TiU Monday 10th Jan 2011 - 2011 It's still the *Jews* stupid

[Ognir]

http://theinfounderground.com/archives/ ... stupid.mp3

[Rockclimber]

Yes it is still the jews--predominately , they are the major players but these Alex Jone$ following idiots will never wake up to that fact. I only say this because I spent 1/2 an hour trying to convince and Alex Jone$ fan who has been in the game for YEARS otherwise, but to no avail. Probably a  

Thanks for the file--looking forward to it.  

[Fester]

Fine show!  Hope it's not Carolyn Yeager that is running down DBS?  She's a hammer on the Holohoax and WWII lies, but maybe a little dim.  

The importation of bullets for US military from Israel was interesting.  Giving them the ability to control supply and undercut loyal elements a la the Russian Revolution.

A few quotes from Pawns in the Game by William Guy Carr on the use of control of supply:

The secret strategy used to defeat Napoleon, and force his abdication, has been accepted as essential for all revolutionary efforts since that date.  It is very simple.  The leaders of the revolutionary movement arrange to place their agents secretly in key positions in the
departments of supply, communication, transport and intelligence, of the armed forces they plan to overthrow.  By sabotaging supplies, intercepting orders, issuing contradictory messages, tying up or misrouting transports, and by counter intelligence work, revolutionary leaders have discovered they can create utter chaos in the most efficient military organization on land, at sea, or in the air.  Ten Cells secretly placed in key positions are worth ten thousand men in the field.  The methods used to bring Napoleon to ruin in the early part of the nineteenth century were used to bring about the defeat of the Russian Armies in the war against Japan in 1904, and again to cause mutiny in the Russian Armies, in 1917, and mutiny in the German Army and Navy in 1918.

Communist infiltration into key positions was the real reason the German Generals asked for, and were granted, an Armistice in November 1918.  The same methods were used to destroy the effectiveness of the Spanish Army, Navy and Air Force in 1936.  Exactly the same tactics were used to bring about the defeat of Hitler after his victorious advances into Russia in World War Two.  Thus history repeats itself, because the same powers use the same methods over and over again.  But most important of all, it was the descendants of the men who brought about Napoleon's downfall who brought about the defeat of China's National Forces in 1945 and onwards.  Mysterious orders were given which caused millions upon millions of dollars worth of arms and ammunition to be dumped into the Indian Ocean when they should have gone to Chiang-Kai-Shek...

Because of the failure of Britain to deliver arms and munitions to Russia as promised, severe military reverses were experienced on the Eastern Front.  Newspapers reported Russian troops were fighting with sticks and bare fists until slaughtered by well-armed German troops.  A letter written by Professor Bernard Pares, (Professor Pares was knighted afterwards) to Lloyd George would indicate that the guns and munitions promised the Imperial Russian government were deliberately withheld to create conditions favourable for the revolution then being planned in Geneva and New York by the international bankers.  Professor Pares' letter, written in 1915,
reads in part :

"I have to submit my strong opinion that the unfortunate failure of Messrs. Vickers-Maxim & Co. to supply Russia with munitions which were to have reached the country five months ago, is gravely jeopardizing the relations of the two countries, and in particular their co-operation in the work of the present war ... I AM DEFINITELY TOLD THAT SO FAR NO SUPPLIES WHATEVER HAVE REACHED RUSSIA FROM ENGLAND."  David Lloyd George, at the time the letter was written was chancellor of the Exchequer and responsible for financing the war.  Messrs. Vickers-Maxim & Co. were controlled by Sir Ernest Cassels business associate of Kuhn-Loeb & Co. of New York, who in turn, were affiliated with the Rothschilds, and the international bankers of England, France, Germany, etc.

[mchawe]

I only say this because I spent 1/2 an hour trying to convince and Alex Jone$ fan who has been in the game for YEARS otherwise, but to no avail.

It could be you are making the same mistakes I have been making. The moment you say, "The Holocaust was BS". The dumbed-down TV viewer (or Alex Jones fan for that matter) thinks you are a nut and that's the end of your credibility in his view. The second of the two following videos give really useful advice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hZDF8rDzEQ&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4BowJLhie8&NR=1

[Shiksa Rage]

Carolyn Yeager had a run in with Mark Glenn after he hosted Alan Hart on his show. Now while she has done some fine work in exposing the hollowhoax, she becomes a tigress when anyone looks sideways at her beloved Hitler.

[o1OpTiMuS1o]

I see Daryl is still pushing the Hitler/Nazi Zionist Rothschild connection BS that makes me wonder sometimes about him.  :down:

[pas]

Great show!, thanks.

I also agree with the nazi-rotschild connection, wich is heavily debated here on the forum.

If the the nazi's were so against the jews, then why were all the big jewish bankers of Holland spared by them but they did deport my White Gentile grandfather, who was a non-political blue-collar iron smith?

Read Spriridovich;The Hidden Hand.
He says Germany is in jewish hands for a long time and documents it and he says it in 1925.
(And he's not jewish btw.)

[Helphand]

@pas: I think you're dead right, there WAS Jewish financial support of the Nazi regime in addition to other Jewish connections. Also Spiridovich is top notch. Some cites:

(a) Anon--"The Strange Death of Adolf Hitler" (1939).
(b) Hennecke Kardel--"Hitler, Founder Of Israel--Israel In War With Jews" (1997).
(c) Nexus Magazine--"Fabricating The Death Of Adolf Hitler" (2007).
(d) G.G.Preparata--"Conjuring Hitler" (2005).
(e) Antony C. Sutton--"Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler" (1976).
(f) Sidney Warburg--"Hitler's Secret Backers" (1933).
(g) W.W.C.--"Hitler's Salad Days" (page 44 et seq of "Living Age Magazine", September 1933, extracted from "The New Statesman and Nation", 'London Independent [sic] Weekly of the Left'.
(h) Hitler's family tree at <http://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDFs/hitler_family_tree00.pdf>   Source?
(i) Major C. H. Douglas--"The Brief for the Prosecution".
(j) Passage in "The Pirates of Finance: The Story Of A Great Conspracy" (1947) by Stanley F. Allen, F.C.A. (Aust.):

  "SOME OF MONTAGU NORMAN'S DOINGS:
  He was very much responsible for the ill-advised return to the gold standard in the 30's. ...
  He went so far as to allow London to over-lend to Nazi Germany and did not exert his influence, as the Bank of England's Governor, to reduce the enormous German Bank debt.
  In 1939 he even provided a loan of £50,000,000 to Hitler, and when explaining said: "We will have to give Germany a loan of 50 million. We may never be paid back, but it will be a less loss than the fall of Nazism."
  He pursued a serious policy of financial appeasement to the Nazis right up to the beginning of the war. Even when war started, he strongly opposed a policy of effective exchange control."

  Allen, specifically, is plausible in "casting aspersions" about Montague Norman and his funding the Nazis because his line is consistent with the fact that Arthur Swan, author of "The Other Road To Freedom", claimed (per David Pidcock) his WW2 imprisonment for refusing to fight etc was because the Bank of England itself had financed Hitler's Nazis and their war preparations!
 

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[mchawe]

Here we go again !  

Helphand....
 "He was very much responsible for the ill-advised return to the gold standard in the 30's. ...

It was not the gold standard itself, but the way it was introduced without the clearing house.

Fekete          http://www.safehaven.com/article/19620/gold-and-honey

Open letter to Thomas Hoenig, President, Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City

Dear President Hoenig,

On January 5, 2011, you were quoted on abc NEWS as saying that "the gold standard is a very legitimate monetary system". The quotation went on: "We are not going to have fewer crises necessarily. You will have a longer period of price stability or price level stability, but I don't know that you will have lower unemployment, and I don't know that you will have fewer bank failures."

As a student of the gold standard for the past 50 years I welcome your statement. I would be happy to open my files and archives if the Research Department of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City (that, as far as one can tell, has so far not been interested in gold standard research) invited me. My files may have the answer to some of your queries.

   1. You are right, the gold standard is a necessary but not a sufficient condition for achieving lower unemployment. A necessary and sufficient condition would assume that Adam Smith's Real Bills doctrine is also rehabilitated along with the gold standard. The bill market is the clearing house, without which the gold standard cannot survive. The explanation why it collapsed in the years 1931-35 is that, when the victorious Entente powers decided to restore the gold standard after World War I, they also decided not to restore real bill financing of world trade or world-wide real bill circulation. Thus the gold standard which Britain reestablished in 1925 lacked a vital organ: a clearing house. The Entente wanted bilateral (to the exclusion of multilateral) trade for fear of German supremacy in exports. This decision was a great setback for world trade. In effect, it meant a return to barter. The consequence was: beggaring-thy-neighbor, trade war, the destruction of the wage fund, and massive unemployment world-wide.
   2. As pointed out by the German economist Heinrich Rittershausen in his 1930 book Arbeitslosigkeit und Kapitalbildung (Unemployment and capital accumulation), before World War I 'structural unemployment' was unknown. Part of the 'float' of maturing real bills was earmarked for payment of wages to workers producing consumer goods. This float was what Rittershausen called the "wage fund", out of which wages could be paid up to three months in advance, well before the underlying consumer goods were paid for by the ultimate, gold-paying consumer. This wage fund was destroyed by the "Guns of August" in 1914 at the start of hostilities. The destruction of the wage fund went unnoticed because the production of war materiel absorbed all slack labor. After the war, a great inflation inflicted on the world by the Fed created not only the T-bond bubble (that burst in 1921), the Florida real estate bubble (that burst in 1925), and the stock market bubble (that burst in 1929), but it also financed a hugely bloated production of consumer goods.

 

Only after the stock market bubble burst did it become clear that there was no wage fund out of which the workers producing consumer goods could be paid. The workers had to be laid off and the factories had to be closed. Thus did the prohibition on real bills circulation cause the collapse of the gold standard and the Great Depression.

My research suggests that if after World War II both the gold standard and real bill circulation had been rehabilitated, there would have been no serial currency turmoils and no Great Financial Crisis. The gold standard and real bills go together like hand and glove.

   1. The purpose of the gold standard is not to stabilize prices or the price level, which is neither possible nor desirable. Its purpose is to stabilize the interest-rate structure, which it can do very efficiently, as history shows. There was no bond speculation under the gold standard. Speculation was confined to agricultural commodities, the supply of which is governed by nature rather than bureaucrats in the Treasury and the Central Bank. Changes in commodity prices or in the price level under the gold standard were mild. They reflected changes in marginal productivity, not speculative fever. Virtually all crises after the collapse of the gold standard in the 1930's were caused by volatile changes in interest rates due to bond speculation.
   2. Gold is the ultimate extinguisher of debt. The reason is that gold enters the asset column in the balance sheet of banks but, unlike every other asset, it has no corresponding entry in the liability column of the balance sheet of someone else. Gold survives any consolidation of balance sheets. Other assets are wiped out when the balance sheets of debtor and creditor are consolidated, as in default and repossession.
   3. No runaway debt or derivatives tower can develop under a gold standard. Such cancerous growths have occurred in the 21st century because, in the absence of a gold standard, the economy is lacking an ultimate extinguisher of debt. Total debt can only grow. It can never contract through normal debt retirement.
   4. Bank failures are a consequence of unbridled escalation of debt. The gold standard acts as a restraining force on banks with a propensity to expand credit even after further expansion becomes detrimental to their capital. Widespread bank failures that presently hit the economy are an indication of destruction of bank capital. Banks were happy to put their capital in jeopardy during the boom as their cash flow from fees was plentiful. However, cash flow is no substitute for capital. When the boom was over, cash flow stopped, but bank capital was gone.

Under the gold standard banks know better. They cannot expand credit with impunity beyond safe capital ratios. If a bank does, it deserves to fail and should not be bailed out.

We can indeed return to a gold standard by going back to Constitutional money. This means opening the U.S. Mint to unlimited free coinage of gold and silver. We can return to financing production and trade in goods demanded most urgently by the consumer through real bills, if the Federal Reserve Banks go back to the legal provisions of the F.R. Act of 1913. That Act confined F.R. credit to real bills arising out of the production and distribution of consumer goods, to the exclusion of anticipation and accommodation bills as well as government debt. The solution to the present crisis will be found in the strict observance of the monetary provisions of the Constitution, and enforcement of the law governing Federal Reserve credit.

Antal E. Fekete, New Austrian School of Economics.

It is not going to happen of course because governments are removed from a huge source of corruption. Borrowing irredemable paper.
Also the end of the primary dealer scam which nets Goldman Sachs and others, billions at the taxpayers' expense.
It would also expose the probable fact that the contents of Fort Knox are gone !
Bringing back the gold standard would result in an exponential rise in the price of gold for it to stabilise,