Daryl Bradford Smith WANTED for attempted MURDER

[Christopher Marlowe]

I'm obviously not in the loop on this. What happened to O'Connell?

I might be wrong, but O'Connell refused to loan DBS 5 euro for a beer, so DBS tried to kill O'Connell with a bread knife.  :|  

Actually, O'Connell has been sent to prison for 3 years for saying bad things about isreal and Jews, throwing a Jewish orange into the garbage, and posting it on the internets. I'm not making that up.  

And to the other point, it obviously makes no sense to try and kill Ognir because Og refused to call a taxi. That sets a very low standard for killing someone. You can't kill someone because they kick you out of their house, or if they won't let you use the remote control, or if they eat your last kit kat bar. You can't go back and justify the actions of some crazy sh*t you did when you were drunk.  You have to make amends, and pay for damages. If you ever feel like killing Ognir, you have to stop and count to ten. Sometimes you really don't want to kill him. Sometimes it is only the indigestion.

Obviously DBS needs to stop drinking before he kills someone because then he will really be sorry.  This could have been a lot worse.  What if DBS broke Ognir's neck and paralyzed him? What if Ognir had a gun? Or what if someone had gotten gashed on that glass? What if Ognir's dog chewed off DBS' ear and swallowed it?  Did you ever think about that?

DBS has done some very good work in the past, and maybe he will do some more in the future. But that doesn't take away from the fact that he has some issues with alcohol. I know some people like this, and the only solution is to stop drinking and get into a 12 step program.  There are issues that need to be dealt with, and drinking alcohol only makes it worse.

In the meantime, I'm glad Ognir is ok; and that we have this forum to prattle and spread gossip.

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

Good points, Marlowe. DBS has become a liability to the movement. If he kills someone, imagine how we all look.

[Abdul Jabaar]

Hi Travis and Ognir:

Travis, as you can see Ognir has confirmed that Daryl had asked him to call a taxi and Ognir said "no". The relevance is that Daryl is not making this up as part of what happened. There are other elements to Daryl's request.

Ognir, did Daryl ask you to call a taxi one time or several times?

[Ognir]

If he kills someone

Ognir, did Daryl ask you to call a taxi one time or several times?

Yes I'll confirm that Daryl has requested a cab on 3 of the 4 occasions we've meet up.
First time we meet up he had a rent-a-car and he didn't need a cab

[Abdul Jabaar]

Hi Ognir.

Did he ask you to call a cab several times on this occasion or one time on this occasion?

[superzebra]

abdul jabaar, what is wrong with you?

entak mn hon abdul.

[Ognir]

Mohamed Rafeeg aka Abdul

Daryl asks for cigars every time  I see him, did he ask me the other day, of course, how many times, I don't remember. As for his cab, he had a chauffeur right beside him so where is this going Mohamed? Drunken logic!

I spoke to you for over an hour after this happened
Please come back and tell us about our conversation
Was I a raving lunatic?
What sort of things were you saying to me about dBS?
What were your worries about this guy and his wife?

Do you remember? I do very clearly without going into any details but MR knows what I'm talking about

Mohamed,  Daryl can try spin this every which way he want but the bottom line is at around 8pm last Friday night, he tried to choke me to death

Daryl's EGO will not let him admit to the above crime, I know he'll says its not true but do look at the photos again

Noel

Picture worth a 100 words


Couple of inches higher and a metal thing would have gone into the back of my head




I'm not sure this photo is very clear, but it's bruising on my neck where that crazy scumbag tried to choke me

[Abdul Jabaar]

Hi Ognir.

My name is Abdul Jabbaar and I am a member of the British Muslim community. I do know Muhammad Rafeeq quite well, but I am not him. I have followed the French Connection and others like yourself for many years. It is bizarre how you have assumed that Muhammad Rafeeq would pretend to be someone else, you do not seem to realise how much you are insulting him because he has no fear in confronting anyone. Back to my question: Can I assume that Daryl asked you to call for a taxi for him several times, and that you refused him several times? I have told Muhammad Rafeeq of your false assumption that I am him. He tells me that he has spoken to Daryl several times today but is unable to get to the internet today to join in this forum or any other forum. He has asked me to ask you whether or not the following is true. Daryl says that he told you that he wanted a taxi because he wanted to stay the night in a hotel and not at your house. If that is true then he did not want a taxi just to go drinking but rather to go some where to stay. If you knew he wanted to go to a hotel why did you obstruct him?

[sean r]

Ognir,
If you've been knowing this about DBS for so long why did you continue to work with him giving us the impression that he was a good guy? It seems if you would have pulled the card on his sorry ass a long time ago this would not have happened to you.

I don't post much here, I'm mostly a lurker. But I been here since 08

[IconoclastRadio]

I hope you're doing ok Og,
                          I told you over a year ago he's a jew and I stand by that.
I pride myself on spotting a jew by their facial features, and other characteristics. He not only has the resonating nasal tone and dialect of a jew, but he also looks like a jew.
 DBS is not your friend. Alcohol only lowers your inhibitions. It doesn't make you do things you would not do. It just gives you the courage to do what's already in  your mind that you would like to do.
 Like I said long time ago, DBS is a fake untrustworthy, bagel piece of shit.

[Ognir]

I'm sorry to have mistaken you Abdel, please forgive me and Mohamed as well

You are talking about Daryl needing a taxi for a hotel. Listen that didn't happen.  Please gives us your thoughts on the photos provided instead of being a spinbot for Smith

If you knew he wanted to go to a hotel why did you obstruct him?

Sorry Abdul I'm really trying to be nice to you here but

I NEVER TRIED TO STOP SCUMBAG FROM DOING ANYTHING, for fuck sake he's 57 years of age and use to getting his own way, if he wanted a hotel room that's news to me and I was there. This is the 4th time Smith has been to my homes and the same thing happened. Daryl doesn't take no for an answer,  it's always when he drinks,  "listen to me" and he has a temper which I've seen before and was one of the reasons this was to be a simple,  drive up to Geneva, collect their silver coins and leave and do it in 1 day BECAUSE OF THE DANGERS WITH HIM DRINKING FREELY away from his wife,  ask his chauffeur Paul.

After his 1st visit I woke up and he was lying a his own puke/vomit all over my floor, I had to replace 6 squares of carpet.

Second visit in France he got hammered again and fought with some locals Arabs

The 3rd visit in France he got that drunk, he didn't even stay in my place but checked into a hotel and recovered for 36 hours, I was surprised he didn't die.

So if Daryl wants another 8 shots of big Vodka orange first thing in the morning after drinking all night,  I never refused him anything, this taxi thing is a red herring, Daryl always did only what he wanted to do.

Smith is lying to save face but not this time

Adbul you are talking the words of a very drunk man, one of my best buddies up until he tried to kill me, end of story

I lost a good friend but he tried to kill me



It's been over 48 hours and he'd not done the right thing, mea culpa, admitted that he had a moment of madness and be a real man

Very Sad

[satya]

If that is true then he did not want a taxi just to go drinking but rather to go some where to stay. If you knew he wanted to go to a hotel why did you obstruct him?

Regardless if this is true or not, it does not give anyone the right to physically attack someone, especially your friend.

[Abdul Jabaar]

Hi Ognir,

I accept your apology, but you should not assume anything, but ask. As for speaking to Paul, I do not know him nor do I have anyway of contacting him. If you have an issue with Daryl about last Friday evening you should keep it to the facts of the evening, discussing other aspects of Daryl's private life that are not relevant to the events of Friday night is not acceptable. I have not acted like a spinbot and have only been asking you questions to try and clarify what you say happened. I have not made any statements about what you say. Where is the spin? As for my asking about going to a hotel, that is very relevant to the events of Friday night. You seem to remember Daryl staying at a hotel on a previous visit to your home but do not remember whether or not he said he wanted to stay at a hotel only two days ago. It is difficult to believe that Daryl would ask you to call him a taxi and that Daryl would not explain where he wanted to go. Do you accept he must have told you where he wanted to go?
As for the photos my first impression was that they do not look that bad. However having been on the receiving end of a violent assault where my face was pummeled hard the photographs taken at the police station also did not look as bad as I felt. It is possible for photographs not to do justice to injury. I would also add that while my assailant clearly wanted to beat me it would be a far stretch for me to say he wanted to kill me. Can you confirm that the injury on your back was caused by your back striking the table with the metal corner on it? Did your back actually strike the table with the metal corner piece shown in the video, it looks sharp?

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

Why are you guys still bickering about pointless things like the taxi? The attack was unprovoked. End of story. DBS is a nut.

[superzebra]

Hi Ognir,

I accept your apology, but you should not assume anything, but ask. As for speaking to Paul, I do not know him nor do I have anyway of contacting him. If you have an issue with Daryl about last Friday evening you should keep it to the facts of the evening, discussing other aspects of Daryl's private life that are not relevant to the events of Friday night is not acceptable. I have not acted like a spinbot and have only been asking you questions to try and clarify what you say happened. I have not made any statements about what you say. Where is the spin? As for my asking about going to a hotel, that is very relevant to the events of Friday night. You seem to remember Daryl staying at a hotel on a previous visit to your home but do not remember whether or not he said he wanted to stay at a hotel only two days ago. It is difficult to believe that Daryl would ask you to call him a taxi and that Daryl would not explain where he wanted to go. Do you accept he must have told you where he wanted to go?
As for the photos my first impression was that they do not look that bad. However having been on the receiving end of a violent assault where my face was pummeled hard the photographs taken at the police station also did not look as bad as I felt. It is possible for photographs not to do justice to injury. I would also add that while my assailant clearly wanted to beat me it would be a far stretch for me to say he wanted to kill me. Can you confirm that the injury on your back was caused by your back striking the table with the metal corner on it? Did your back actually strike the table with the metal corner piece shown in the video, it looks sharp?

what are u out of your mind?

are u an arab abdul?

[Abdul Jabaar]

If that is true then he did not want a taxi just to go drinking but rather to go some where to stay. If you knew he wanted to go to a hotel why did you obstruct him?

Regardless if this is true or not, it does not give anyone the right to physically attack someone, especially your friend.

Hi Satya,

I agree having been a victim of violence, I say that violence is not something that people have a right too except in self defense. If Daryl and Ognir were having a drunken argument neither of them had the right to escalate an argument to violence. It is clear to me and should be to everyone that alcohol was a significant factor in the events of Friday night.
For instance Daryl and Paul were supposed to return to France together that day. I have been told that Paul was the driver and that during the day after arriving at Geneva he consumed several pints of beer. Daryl apparently did not want Paul to drive in that condition because Daryl felt it would not be safe to do so. As with many people who have drunk a few beers Paul still believed he was sober enough to drive. Even Ognir has admitted that Paul was slurring his speech. According to other posts here Ognir also believes that in spite of the fact that he had drunk several beers himself the alcohol  content had not effected him. It is obvious to me that all three men were more effected than any of them are prepared to admit. This speaks volumes about the whole situation that occurred.

[Travis]

Hi Ognir.

My name is Abdul Jabbaar and I am a member of the British Muslim community. I do know Muhammad Rafeeq quite well, but I am not him. I have followed the French Connection and others like yourself for many years. It is bizarre how you have assumed that Muhammad Rafeeq would pretend to be someone else, you do not seem to realise how much you are insulting him because he has no fear in confronting anyone. Back to my question: Can I assume that Daryl asked you to call for a taxi for him several times, and that you refused him several times? I have told Muhammad Rafeeq of your false assumption that I am him. He tells me that he has spoken to Daryl several times today but is unable to get to the internet today to join in this forum or any other forum. He has asked me to ask you whether or not the following is true. Daryl says that he told you that he wanted a taxi because he wanted to stay the night in a hotel and not at your house. If that is true then he did not want a taxi just to go drinking but rather to go some where to stay. If you knew he wanted to go to a hotel why did you obstruct him?

Abdul Jabaar, many including my self only want the truth. If DBS has another account of events or has an explanation, or wants to apologise he should just state his case. Asking questions regarding what appears to be minor details is not helping the situation if you have fact to present just say it.

[Abdul Jabaar]

Hi Ognir,

I accept your apology, but you should not assume anything, but ask. As for speaking to Paul, I do not know him nor do I have anyway of contacting him. If you have an issue with Daryl about last Friday evening you should keep it to the facts of the evening, discussing other aspects of Daryl's private life that are not relevant to the events of Friday night is not acceptable. I have not acted like a spinbot and have only been asking you questions to try and clarify what you say happened. I have not made any statements about what you say. Where is the spin? As for my asking about going to a hotel, that is very relevant to the events of Friday night. You seem to remember Daryl staying at a hotel on a previous visit to your home but do not remember whether or not he said he wanted to stay at a hotel only two days ago. It is difficult to believe that Daryl would ask you to call him a taxi and that Daryl would not explain where he wanted to go. Do you accept he must have told you where he wanted to go?
As for the photos my first impression was that they do not look that bad. However having been on the receiving end of a violent assault where my face was pummeled hard the photographs taken at the police station also did not look as bad as I felt. It is possible for photographs not to do justice to injury. I would also add that while my assailant clearly wanted to beat me it would be a far stretch for me to say he wanted to kill me. Can you confirm that the injury on your back was caused by your back striking the table with the metal corner on it? Did your back actually strike the table with the metal corner piece shown in the video, it looks sharp?

what are u out of your mind?

are u an arab abdul?

Why, do you fancy Arabs? :shock:

[Abdul Jabaar]

Hi Ognir.

My name is Abdul Jabbaar and I am a member of the British Muslim community. I do know Muhammad Rafeeq quite well, but I am not him. I have followed the French Connection and others like yourself for many years. It is bizarre how you have assumed that Muhammad Rafeeq would pretend to be someone else, you do not seem to realise how much you are insulting him because he has no fear in confronting anyone. Back to my question: Can I assume that Daryl asked you to call for a taxi for him several times, and that you refused him several times? I have told Muhammad Rafeeq of your false assumption that I am him. He tells me that he has spoken to Daryl several times today but is unable to get to the internet today to join in this forum or any other forum. He has asked me to ask you whether or not the following is true. Daryl says that he told you that he wanted a taxi because he wanted to stay the night in a hotel and not at your house. If that is true then he did not want a taxi just to go drinking but rather to go some where to stay. If you knew he wanted to go to a hotel why did you obstruct him?

Abdul Jabaar, many including my self only want the truth. If DBS has another account of events or has an explanation, or wants to apologise he should just state his case. Asking questions regarding what appears to be minor details is not helping the situation if you have fact to present just say it.

Hi Travis.

I agree with you. I do not know Daryl personally and have no way of contacting him directly. Lets hope he puts out his version of events soon and lets hope that he does not discuss private parts of Ognir's life that are not relevant too the incident on Friday night.

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Why are you guys still bickering about pointless things like the taxi? The attack was unprovoked. End of story. DBS is a nut.

Totally agree there Timothy....

DBS has major problems... he is a Violent Alcoholic.  

He is a danger to himself and others around him when he is Stone Drunk...because he gets  Psycho Violent!   What more needs to be said?  

Darryl Bradford Smith should have the Balls to admit to his problems and turn himself into the Police for a Crime he committed while Drunk
-- if he has any HONOR whatsoever while Sober.

If he's lost this much control over himself to backside attack people...his friends... then he is a danger to a lot of people. And in no way, can this be "excused", over looked, or explained away by what anyone else did or failed to do. He must be responsible for what he did. Therefore, the Police need to arrest Darryl and dry him out in jail.

Don't think for a second he is special in this case... there are many Drunks like him and many have gone to jail for unprovoked Drunken attacks on people...family, friends and complete strangers. He should be no different.

From the evidence, DBS is a Violent Raging Alcoholic that is a danger to society -- enough said.

[Fester]

Abdul Jabaar, I agree completely.  My initial confusion and shock became worry that Ognir and Daryl might be in serious danger.  The info was so sketchy, the photos inconclusive, the tone not quite right to my ear, and the issue very ripe for manipulation.

I was anxious to know that someone had actually spoken to Ognir to allay my fears that something worse had happened or might be in the works.  Would not the best way to eliminate TFC and TIU be to stage a murderous fight as prelude to an actual murder with the community primed to "know" who did it?  Just trying to think like the enemy here, folks, so keep your f-ing hats on.

Sullivan has kindly informed me on the WUFYS in-house line that he HAS SPOKEN to Ognir, so I will no longer worry that he's in a Mossad body bag somewhere awaiting the setting of the next scene.  

If you think I'm overreacting, I would ask you all what you have learned of the enemy from your years of study.

Things are starting to heat up.  Be ye therefore wise as serpents

[superzebra]

Hi Ognir,

I accept your apology, but you should not assume anything, but ask. As for speaking to Paul, I do not know him nor do I have anyway of contacting him. If you have an issue with Daryl about last Friday evening you should keep it to the facts of the evening, discussing other aspects of Daryl's private life that are not relevant to the events of Friday night is not acceptable. I have not acted like a spinbot and have only been asking you questions to try and clarify what you say happened. I have not made any statements about what you say. Where is the spin? As for my asking about going to a hotel, that is very relevant to the events of Friday night. You seem to remember Daryl staying at a hotel on a previous visit to your home but do not remember whether or not he said he wanted to stay at a hotel only two days ago. It is difficult to believe that Daryl would ask you to call him a taxi and that Daryl would not explain where he wanted to go. Do you accept he must have told you where he wanted to go?
As for the photos my first impression was that they do not look that bad. However having been on the receiving end of a violent assault where my face was pummeled hard the photographs taken at the police station also did not look as bad as I felt. It is possible for photographs not to do justice to injury. I would also add that while my assailant clearly wanted to beat me it would be a far stretch for me to say he wanted to kill me. Can you confirm that the injury on your back was caused by your back striking the table with the metal corner on it? Did your back actually strike the table with the metal corner piece shown in the video, it looks sharp?

no.

i amthinking to my self why you are defending dbs.so i thought to my self  that you are arab(muslim)  ,becuae when moslims get drunk they will have dbs syndrome.

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Fester and Abdul Jabbar... you guys need to get out of this forum thread right now.

Ognir explain clearly all details to everyone here at TIU. He explain it all. It is Plain as Day.  Go back and read again if you need to.

You two are running some kind of "SmokeScreen" for the Violent Drunk Darryl Bradford Smith, I really don't know why at this point. Probably because it isn't the first time that DBS attacked someone.  Right?

[Fester]

CSR, your transformation from thoughtful, careful researcher and deep reader to chest-thumping, name-calling yahoo is astonishing.  It's actually not believable.  That's all I'll say.

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

CSR, your transformation from thoughtful, careful researcher and deep reader to chest-thumping, name-calling yahoo is astonishing.  It's actually not believable.  That's all I'll say.

Get out of this thread now. You Fester are not helping things. You are running some kind of "cover" or are inserting yourself in a place you don't deserve to be. Clear Junior? Dude, I only pull my knives when I hear Lies and Scams.

DBS has a problem. Can you say that? Ever listen to his DRUNKEN PHONE CALLS? The only "manipulation" I'm hearing about this whole event on this thread is coming from you and Abdul Jabber (whoever that is...) -- that's why you are getting called out on the floor for a little extra attention. Clear Junior?

[Fester]

CSR, are you asking me to leave, questions, or both?  Make up your mind.

I've heard the phone calls to Huffschmidt which I thought were entirely appropriate.  Are there others I should listen to?

Please explain the "scam" or "cover" I'm "running" here.  If you are able to that is. :yawn:

For the readers here who are not in hyperventilation mode, I'm very glad to hear that Sullivan has spoken to Ognir and I've said what I felt needed to be said.

[Father Brown]

Can you confirm that the injury on your back was caused by your back striking the table with the metal corner on it? Did your back actually strike the table with the metal corner piece shown in the video, it looks sharp?

That's what the man said in the video he posted. Questions like this start to take the analysis to the point of the Kennedy assasination.

Guess we'll have to what for a Zapruder film to show up to sort it all out.

[Whaler]

not in hyperventilation mode...I'm just a litte baffed why DBS didn't immediately call Noel and apologize. It's too late now, the damage is done. Understandably Noel aired out DBS's dirty laundry. Now DBS isn't likely to feel bad about what happened.

 I'm no saint. I have had plenty of drunken episodes. Gotten into fights, slept with fat chicks, pissed some beds...but that was when I was 17-27 years of age. I'm 30 now and understand that that kind of behavior is completely unacceptable and would bring pain to the people that love and care about me.

Also, I don't think I would ever attack a friend...let alone a friend that is much smaller than me if I was drunk. Totally unacceptable behavior from a mature adult. I have seen my friends attack each other but it was knuckle-dragging neanderthal types...not intellectual, "evolved" men in their 50's.

Get a grip DBS. I am far from happy about this incident. I am very sad and depressed. Please swallow your pride and admit you were wrong. I have always defended you in the past but this might be the final straw.

[Abdul Jabaar]

CSR, your transformation from thoughtful, careful researcher and deep reader to chest-thumping, name-calling yahoo is astonishing.  It's actually not believable.  That's all I'll say.

Get out of this thread now. You Fester are not helping things. You are running some kind of "cover" or are inserting yourself in a place you don't deserve to be. Clear Junior? Dude, I only pull my knives when I hear Lies and Scams.

DBS has a problem. Can you say that? Ever listen to his DRUNKEN PHONE CALLS? The only "manipulation" I'm hearing about this whole event on this thread is coming from you and Abdul Jabber (whoever that is...) -- that's why you are getting called out on the floor for a little extra attention. Clear Junior?

Hello whoever you are behind your pen name. I am Abdul Jabbaar, this is not a pen name. if you are not prepared to divulge your real name perhaps it is you who should leave this thread. As you and anyone can see I have clearly denounced indiscriminate violence and have stated it is only a RIGHT when it is used in self defense. This belief applies to all of humanity, Muslim, non Muslim and even Daryl.
Daryl is well known for being strong headed, bloody minded and even aggressive. This is part of his personality and is nothing to do with whether or not he has been drinking. It may be argued that alcohol causes these tendencies to become worse and it is possible that Daryl is such a person. I have never been in direct contact with him to observe these things and so I cannot comment on this either way. I assume that you have had direct contact with him on many occasions which is why you are able to state that Daryl is without doubt such a person.
You keep claiming that this was an unprovoked attack on the say so of only one party. Given the fact that there were three persons present at the incident it is necessary to refrain from judgment until all witness statements are in the public domain. If Daryl's attack was provoked then everything would look very different. Also if Daryl's attack was from the front not the back it would also be very different.
You should wait until you have Daryl and Paul's statements before making a conclusive judgment. It can be seen from the questions I asked of Ognir he claims that he cannot remember clearly, things that were said on Friday night. This is most probably due to the amount of alcohol that he had consumed. Please note that I have previously said that all three men (Daryl, Ognir and Paul) have most probably got a drink problem, why do you highlight only Daryl's alcohol problem? Given that by his own admission, Ognir cannot clearly remember what was said ONLY TWO DAYS AGO how can he be fully relied upon in describing events from the same time period? You need to think about what has impaired Ognir's memory for that time period; it must be alcohol. It would be best for you and everyone to wait for all the information to come out before finally judging this matter.

[Abdul Jabaar]

not in hyperventilation mode...I'm just a litte baffed why DBS didn't immediately call Noel and apologize. It's too late now, the damage is done. Understandably Noel aired out DBS's dirty laundry. Now DBS isn't likely to feel bad about what happened.

 I'm no saint. I have had plenty of drunken episodes. Gotten into fights, slept with fat chicks, pissed some beds...but that was when I was 17-27 years of age. I'm 30 now and understand that that kind of behavior is completely unacceptable and would bring pain to the people that love and care about me.

Also, I don't think I would ever attack a friend...let alone a friend that is much smaller than me if I was drunk. Totally unacceptable behavior from a mature adult. I have seen my friends attack each other but it was knuckle-dragging neanderthal types...not intellectual, "evolved" men in their 50's.

Get a grip DBS. I am far from happy about this incident. I am very sad and depressed. Please swallow your pride and admit you were wrong. I have always defended you in the past but this might be the final straw.

Hi Whaler,

Much of what you have said is good however many things discussed privately between Daryl and people he works with should remain private. It is Hufschmidt type behaviour to publicly air and put into the public domain matters that were discussed privately and were clearly never to be made public. It does enormous damage too this movement when people betray private confidences and it is the sort of conduct that is associated with the intelligence communities. Under no circumstances is it acceptable for us to behave like them.