Anyone still researching 911 details?

[Ognir]

Where are we on the main event
I stopped following, the      did it

Who is the guy?
[youtube:pq5wype3]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=505uzsWbC30[/youtube]pq5wype3]

Quotes Judy Woods and I know that scum bag in France trusts her

[joeblow]

Quotes Judy Woods and I know that scum bag in France trusts her

Anyone who has anything to do with No-Planers is automatically suspect.

[Wimpy]

Long time no see, JoeBlow!  

[Travis]

Quotes Judy Woods and I know that scum bag in France trusts her

Anyone who has anything to do with No-Planers is automatically suspect.

أين كنت؟

[joeblow]

Long time no see, JoeBlow!  

Gracias, Senor Wimpy, me alegria verle tambien.

Quotes Judy Woods and I know that scum bag in France trusts her

Anyone who has anything to do with No-Planers is automatically suspect.

أين كنت؟

ne7ki ba3deen.

Today on the Shabbos Jones Show, Ventura proudly stated that he admires "Doctor" Judy Woods' work.

[Ognir]

Just because Joe is back
Smith always mentioned Wood's for waking him up about 911

OPEN TOPIC

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

Joe, where ya been?

Photo is missing "been" after "Alex, I've..."

I've heard an awful lot about this "no planers" dealy, but haven't actually looked into it. I have no idea what it is all about.

[Whaler]

Og, I thought DBS was anti-no planer. He just posted an article the other day attacking Duff for his no planes/mini nukes/no thermite stance. Are you saying that DBS is secretly a no planer?


Submitted by gretavo on Sun, 2010-12-19 11:04.
Is the Entire Fake Truth Movement Preparing to "Jump the Big Shark?"
http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/3068

It sure looks that way, and my spidey sense is tingling at the way that so many different let's say "fake truth outlets" have very recently all of a sudden begun talking as if big developments were afoot, when in fact nothing much seems to merit such a perception. I'll copy stuff wholesale below as a way of beginning our collective deconstruction of what may well be the start of the endgame...

First, from "Gordon Duff":
GORDON DUFF: GOV. JESSE VENTURA PROVES 9/11 COVER-UP, WILL AMERICA'S GOVERNMENT FALL?

http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/3068

1) Jesse Ventura's role in rolling out this latest op... Jesse has not been a truther for long and has never been a particularly good one. But he sure gets a lot of publicity in the truth movement.

2) Christopher Bollyn re-appears with very convoluted series of connections that he claims prove a Mossad connection to the destruction of steel. And also to "military applications of thin coatings"--as if painted on nanothermite were conclusively proven to have been used.

3) Gordon Duff claims, among other things, that it's been proven that AA77 had no seat-back phones. It hasn't been proven, and frankly is irrelevant. Enough impossible cell phone calls were reported that the existence of seat-back phones is irrelevant and most likely a trap. He also makes ridiculous sounding claims that Bush the Elder arranged for a 500 million dollar bribe to keep Cheney from being arrested by, of all countries, Nigeria.

So here's what I think, more or less. They're trying to set up the truth movement by making it appear that "our leaders" are moving on an increasingly united front to "bring it all together". We will be pressured to go along with most of the "new revelations" that make up this alleged new consensus. The new story will of course be full of errors that will be easily debunked, and in the process two things will happen simultaneously (they hope). First, mainstream folks will once and for all say NO to the truth movement and blame "Glenn Beck's and Alex Jones' right-wing populism" for creating a bunch of paranoid, dangerous lunatics who want to overthrow the US gov't, or the 'regime that overthrew the legitimate US govt'". Second, the LIHOP factions of the fake truth movement will once again try to assert themselves as the RESPONSIBLE truthers who like to focus on FACTS and not SPECULATION.

In order to nip this effort in the bud we must understand what they're playing at and, to the extent that our acquaintances are even aware of such nonsense innoculate them by making clear that our own interests are very specific and do not involve the type of craziness the fakers will be advocating, but instead have everything to do with the few scientifically verifiable problems with the official story. We must also keep an eye out for online forums where fake truthers will be posing as real truthers trying to provide faux legitimacy to the new storyline and be as clear as we can in setting the record straight. It might be good to brainstorm a few succinct talking points for the purpose...

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[GordZilla]

Yes welcome back Joe, Where you been?

 

[Whaler]

1judy2v7]

[Whaler]

9-11 & Energy Weapons
Date:    05-03-11
Host:    George Noory
Guests:    Judy D. Wood, Howard Bloom
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2011/05/03

http://www.youtube.com/user/linuxfrik#g ... 6A70B8C65D

[Yo Mama]

I have some explosive new information regarding who planned and carried out the 9/11 terrorist attacks:

DICK CHENEY DID IT!  (and people above him)  

[youtube:18rstf4k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0g6qJVWBL8[/youtube]18rstf4k]

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

partial reply
Submitted by    gretavo    on Wed, 2011-01-05 11:54.

"Gretavo, you take a very unhealthy approach imo. Your working MO is to assume that EVERYONE is an agent or a disinfo op. Yes, a healthy degree of suspicion is necessary of one another in this movement but you take it to ridiculous extremes. I've talked to others (Keenan, Adam Ruff, Sheila Casey, and others) and I'm hardly the only one who feels this way."

I've reached the conclusion, after about 6 years of studying 9/11 and the truth movement, that the truth movement is more heavily infiltrated than most people would like to believe. In fact, you could say that the truth movement was created by the fakers and only slowly has been infiltrated by real truthers. As the ratio of real to fake truthers increases, new fake truthers must be recruited/created. As people like Nico Haupt, Chris Bollyn, and Jim Fetzer blow through their credibility capital and become as useless as Judy Wood's hairbrush, the perps have seen fit to introduce new faces--limited hangout people like "Diane the New York Activist" and Steve Alten on the one hand, and obnoxious provocateurs like Mike Delaney and his Prothink site on the other.   Fool me once, yada yada. In the early years I used to chalk it up to the suspicion that eccentric people were naturally more prone to discover the truth about 9/11 and speak out sooner than more conventional folks. Now if it stinks, or even exudes a mild aroma, or if it irrationally clings to unproven aspects of the OCT, I tend to assume the worst. I try to make sure my mind never closes to the possibility of being proven wrong, but generally I find that my gut feelings turn out to be reliable to me. I have felt there was something strange about CIT for a long time, and now, seeing the fruit of their labors manifest itself I feel justified in my suspicions.

http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/3068

Sounds like a    to me... pulls out Mike D???

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Where are we on the main event
I stopped following, the      did it

Who is the guy?
[youtube:2bqufrf9]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=505uzsWbC30[/youtube]2bqufrf9]

Quotes Judy Woods and I know that scum bag in France trusts her

He's here:
viewtopic.php?f=24&t=8761&start=0

BTW, welcome back JoeB.!

[Ognir]

Let me clarify what I said, scumbag in France woke up to 911 via research from Judy Woods

[kolnidre]

Let me clarify what I said, scumbag in France woke up to 911 via research from Judy Woods

So what? Everyone goes through a process of awakening, learning how to filter out bullshit and hone powers of discernment. I woke up to 911 via Huffshit's book, which didn't even touch the   issue, but does that mean I have a lightbulb head?

[kolnidre]

I have felt there was something strange about CIT for a long time, and now, seeing the fruit of their labors manifest itself I feel justified in my suspicions.

That's funny. CIT (Citizens' Investigation Team) gets almost zero love for their research into the Penta-con. By working on the ground and asking open-ended questions to locals on the scene they allow witnesses to hang the official story of a plane crashing into the Pentagon. They refrain from speculation on what actually exploded, but conclusively prove it wasn't a plane. That this guy writing to Gretavo cites CIT as fishy marks him as an idiot, liar or both.

[joeblow]

Joe, where ya been?

Photo is missing "been" after "Alex, I've..."

I've heard an awful lot about this "no planers" dealy, but haven't actually looked into it. I have no idea what it is all about.

Mr. TT, you would not believe me even if I told you. It would be of immense honor for me, if you would re-edit the picture and add it to your fine collection.

Yes welcome back Joe, Where you been?

 

 

I have some explosive new information regarding who planned and carried out the 9/11 terrorist attacks:

DICK CHENEY DID IT!  (and people above him)  

I have been fighting German Death Cults. Oh shit, that meshes with everthing I have read, folks, I have done the research, Israel could not have had anything to do with these attacks!

BTW, welcome back JoeB.!

Thank you, and you have done a great job of keep up the high standards of TiU.

Let me clarify what I said, scumbag in France woke up to 911 via research from Judy Woods

So what? Everyone goes through a process of awakening, learning how to filter out bullshit and hone powers of discernment. I woke up to 911 via Huffshit's book, which didn't even touch the   issue, but does that mean I have a lightbulb head?

Yes, but it is another thing to secretly still harbor such disinformation and allow others to spout it in front of you without rebuke.

[pas]

Who is the guy?
[youtube:3r6i48kv]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=505uzsWbC30[/youtube]3r6i48kv]

I saw him in 108morris108 video's and although i like Morris, i don't like people who are onboard with Sitchin.
In the following video he endorses Sitchin;

[youtube:3r6i48kv]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oS573CsUBM[/youtube]3r6i48kv]

Good to see you're back Joe.

[stoneskull]

a distraction in reality.

sure, it's possible planes were generated and inserted in video, but it's not likely, is perhaps more difficult to execute, and big deal at the end of the day..

it's really is a waste of time worrying about.. and it can't be proven to anyone.
it would just make you seem more foolish than you do anyway when talking to someone about 'the official story of al qaeda doing it' being rubbish.

[Whaler]

partial reply
Submitted by    gretavo    on Wed, 2011-01-05 11:54.

"Gretavo, you take a very unhealthy approach imo. Your working MO is to assume that EVERYONE is an agent or a disinfo op. Yes, a healthy degree of suspicion is necessary of one another in this movement but you take it to ridiculous extremes. I've talked to others (Keenan, Adam Ruff, Sheila Casey, and others) and I'm hardly the only one who feels this way."

I've reached the conclusion, after about 6 years of studying 9/11 and the truth movement, that the truth movement is more heavily infiltrated than most people would like to believe. In fact, you could say that the truth movement was created by the fakers and only slowly has been infiltrated by real truthers. As the ratio of real to fake truthers increases, new fake truthers must be recruited/created. As people like Nico Haupt, Chris Bollyn, and Jim Fetzer blow through their credibility capital and become as useless as Judy Wood's hairbrush, the perps have seen fit to introduce new faces--limited hangout people like "Diane the New York Activist" and Steve Alten on the one hand, and obnoxious provocateurs like Mike Delaney and his Prothink site on the other.   Fool me once, yada yada. In the early years I used to chalk it up to the suspicion that eccentric people were naturally more prone to discover the truth about 9/11 and speak out sooner than more conventional folks. Now if it stinks, or even exudes a mild aroma, or if it irrationally clings to unproven aspects of the OCT, I tend to assume the worst. I try to make sure my mind never closes to the possibility of being proven wrong, but generally I find that my gut feelings turn out to be reliable to me. I have felt there was something strange about CIT for a long time, and now, seeing the fruit of their labors manifest itself I feel justified in my suspicions.

http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/3068

Sounds like a    to me... pulls out Mike D???

Yeah CSR, defo 100% Jewboi writing style. I didn't read the whole thread.


Another good indication of Jewishness.

Fool me once, yada yada.

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Who is the guy?
...

I saw him in 108morris108 video's and although i like Morris, i don't like people who are onboard with Sitchin.
In the following video he endorses Sitchin;
...

Good to see you're back Joe.

That's the problem with this guy and a few others... they immediately jump into UFO crap, Sitchin, Reptlians...name your poison. I think he has some clues into this whole thing though around Thermite-Thermate -- not a lot of people were found burned alive from Thermite/Thermate near the Towers.

The problem I noticed is that since Dr. Judy Wood published her book recently... the Lying Shills "Coast2Coasters-AJs" ... just have to acknowledge it in some form as a "Conspiracy" publication. It's definitely not the NIST report. Since 2006, Dr. Wood did several low-level interviews on a lot of AM Radio/Late FM Radio/Internet Shows that look at "conspiracy" etc.  Now, with the more careful "J-Shills" such as  A.J./Noory/Ventura...Dr. Wood has kind of "stepped up" to a slightly bigger arena of listeners... and a lot of C2C people know her since she did a lot of "local shows" in the past...she's not unknown and they could have interviewed her back in 2006-2010 but didn't as far as I know.  So, the JewTarded Crew...  A.J./Noory/Ventura types have to give her, her due time, since she does have a lot of original finds...but they will try and "sink/fade/storymix"  her away since they are paid to do this kind of thing with most things credible.

I noticed in the "Noory" interview that he said he gave her book to "Richard Hoagland".... author of all crap related to "93 year-old Secret Space Nazis' on the "Moon Base"" that use ancient "lost" technology...etc.   What this is going to do is set up Dr. Wood for lumping her "findings" into this  "Comic Book Nazi International" promoted by these sci-fictionist-Indiana Jones story spinning JewTards  (Noory/Richard Hoagland/Jim Marrs/Joseph Farrell).  They'll cook up some story about Secret Nazis with Tesla type DE weapons on 9/11 instead of ZioJews-NeoCons-Synagogue of Satan Jews actually attacking for their PNAC dreams.    I noticed that Wood has lately backed away from close association with Reynolds (No-planer)... I see it as a good thing.  The Jews using SPC and Dov Zakheim's remote control planes... could have still "flown" the planes.  I do think the plane business still has question marks around it...but something did hit the buildings and the Pentagon.  UFO'ery associations, No-Planes, and Stitchin are "Red Flags" but she has pictures, knows physics better than 98% of the people writing/talking/interviewing about 9/11, and she doesn't "win" anything by promoting this except limited book sales to pay for her court case (she has my respect...--CSR).  She's one of those geeky types that just nails it technically and let the heavens may fall as she finds it. However, whether purposefully or not, she's a bit naive around "who" did the 9/11-Anthrax attacks and that's where TIU comes in (as well as few other choice sites) to finger the Protocolist Jew.

 She's probably enemy #1 of the "truther" J-Tribers/official story promoters at this point in many respects... so they'll try and slam or "joke"  her out of the media... but she does have original choice insights...it still was a false flag for Israel...  IMHO.

[Yo Mama]

You guys are forgetting that "Wood/Woods" is a pretty common Jewish surname in the United States.  It's an Anglicized/Americanized version of the German surname "Wald".  And furthermore, Judy Wood looks stereotypically Jewish.  

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

You guys are forgetting that "Wood/Woods" is a pretty common Jewish surname in the United States.  It's an Anglicized/Americanized version of the German surname "Wald".  And furthermore, Judy Wood looks stereotypically Jewish.  

Could be Y.M., I'd be fooled if she was. Never heard her say she was Jewish during interviews.  I haven't seen enough evidence of it elsewhere. I think she is just another "Frodo"...:

--Elijah Wood (Frodo from the Lord of the Rings, weird looking but not Jewish)

This here is a typical Corrupting Jew-Israeli Firster supporting the official theory:

Is a controlled demolition of the 9/11 Truth movement possible?

Monday, 06 September 2010 10:11

http://mwcnews.net/focus/analysis/5033- ... oscclean=1

I have just finished watching the documentary "EA 9/11: Blueprint for Truth" (2008) in which American Institute of Architects, Richard Gage tries to present a fresh examination of some of the "latest" evidence surrounding the events of that day, most notably the "controlled demolition" of World Trade Center buildings 1, 2 and 7. He purports to have taken a new and "scientific" look at the evidence surrounding 9/11. It took me about six hours to debunk nearly all of the assertions found in this profoundly dishonest documentary. If you still care about anything the "Truthers" have to say about 9/11 you can read all the claims and counterclaims at the end of this essay.
 
It is easy to dismiss these kooks and charlatans as harmless fools lost in the spin of their own fantastic lies and conspiratorial delusions. I'm afraid it is a lot worse than that. These conspiracy buffs have pretty successfully marginalized any serious attempt to levy proper blame on the Bush Administration for their role in 9/11. I think authentic investigators have only seen the tip of the iceberg in this matter. Why stage a "false flag" event when you already have real conspirators ready to do the job for you? All you need do is remove the obstacles from these bumbling fanatics and hope they won't all miss all their targets. The full extent to which Bush greased the skids for Khalid Sheik Mohammed's "The Planes Operation," which I suspect he knew about in advance, is yet to be appreciated in its full enormity.
 
The 9/11 Truth movement is the best friend George Bush and his Neo Con pals have ever had. If there is any wild conspiracy I would put forth here (tongue in cheek), it is that these crazies are encouraged, lead and funded by deep operatives of the government in order to deliberately discredit and deflect any attempt to reveal Bush's real role in the events. Parenthetically I might add that, in a similar manner, Glen Beck's followers and the Tea Bag Party are the best friends Obama could ever ask for. These "Corn Pone Nazis" (thanks to Jim Kunstler for this characterization) would never vote for the man anyway, but they sure help him marginalize his progressive critics. The same with the Jew-hating holocaust deniers who help the thugs in the government of Israel and the AIPAC repel its legitimate critics as anti-Semitic.
 
For those who are still with me then, here is my refutation of my latest steaming pile of 9/11 "truth."

____________________________
 

9/11 Conspiracy—Claims and Counterclaims

Mork, "Nano Nano"—or the Thermite Question.
 
Claim: Thermite caused the controlled demolition of the towers and WTC7. Charges blew out the main core support beams of WT1 and WT2.
 
Counter claim: A thermite test conducted by National Geographic demonstrated that this was highly improbable. It took too much thermite and took too long to create even a negligible effect. The thermite failed to penetrate the test column.
 
New Claim: It was nano thermite which is exponentially more powerful than regular thermite. Sadly none of this substance is available for a conclusive test because the substance is classified for military use only.
 
Conclusion: absent any reliable demonstration of the proven power of this material, the initial point is speculative and not conclusive.
 
Note: in this analysis, I am trying to keep my counter claims as close to the physical evidence and its implications without attempting to address larger logistic issues such as, how the hell was it possible to plant enough huge explosive charges in public buildings without attracting attention? Or isn't it a little amazing that a conspiracy to bring down a three buildings as complex and as vast as WTC 1, 2 and 7 could have been accomplished without a conspiracy numbering in the hundreds and taking months to put in place?
 
Claim: evidence of Thermite particles and microscopic steel balls found in the dust emitted by the fall of the towers prove the presence of thermite source explosions used to bring down the buildings. Dr. Stephen E. Jones, in examining the Ground Zero dust, found iron microspheres, which are evidence of welding or thermite, and a signature of controlled demolition. In a word, molten metal that had been cast hundreds of yards from the collapses.
 
CC: An NIEHS study done much earlier, published by Paul J. Lioy et al in the Environmental Health Perspectives Volume 110, Number 7, July 2002, subjected the dust from 3 locations, Cortlandt, Cherry and Market streets, to analyses too numerous to list here, but found no iron microspheres (or evidence of termite).www.nc911truth.org/foto/no_iron.html
 ....(more)
For more on Steven E. Jones credentials see footnote [1]

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Worth a read:

Zahir Ebrahim's Open Letter to 911 Truth Chiefs on Judy Wood's 'New Hiroshima'
http://humanbeingsfirst.wordpress.com/2 ... ma-merged/

[rodin]

You guys are forgetting that "Wood/Woods" is a pretty common Jewish surname in the United States.  It's an Anglicized/Americanized version of the German surname "Wald".  And furthermore, Judy Wood looks stereotypically Jewish.  

her first name has jew in it

[Christopher Marlowe]

It's not really scientific to label everyone that one doesn't agree with as a Jew. That is really just another variant of the ad hom, which is a fallacy.  Ditto with labeling every network Woods has appeared on as some variant of "crazy" or "controlled op".  The problem with those types of attacks is that it allows one to dismiss the evidence without ever actually dealing with the evidence.  

IMHO, one of the major questions at the heart of the Judy Woods vs thermite debate is the ability of thermite to shatter all that concrete into dust. Thermite contains a lot of power, but its rate of combustion, sans some other explosive material, is slower than the speed of sound, and thus thermite lacks the quality of brissance.

To my understanding, if thermite lacks brissance, which is the ability to shatter, as in an explosion, then thermite would not be capable of turning the concrete into dust.  (As a caveat, I should note here that, although I could not find any scientific study demonstrating this quality, I did find TWO registered patents which claimed a process wherein thermite was used to demolish concrete buildings.  If Steven Jones is sincere, he should definitely pursue this angle.)

I listened to Judy Woods present her ideas and she comes across as being very scientific and unbiased.  Woods is not quick to draw any conclusions, but rather precisely and consistently describes what is witnessed in the tower destruction and aftermath.  If someone disagrees with what Woods says, then point it out and show your sources.  That is the scientific method.  

I am not married to DEW, but I do not discount it.  I will list a few pros and cons for anyone to comment upon:

PRO
Virtually all the concrete reduced to dust. That requires an immense amount of energy.

Rigging up the towers to demolish without notice. Although there is the testimony of various witnesses, the elevator contracts, etc..., the DEW explanation would make this a non issue.  

The crazy fire evidence: on the cars, clothing bursting into flames.

The silence of the demolition. Certainly we have some explosions recorded, and there are numerous eyewitness statements of explosion.  But we should have more recordings of low-pitched explosions on video. The tracks on the most of the recorded video could have been passed through a filter, but DEW would also explain this.

Lack of recorded earthquaking measurement at time towers hit the ground.  As Ventura points out, the measured amount is much less than other controlled demos.  

The video of the steel towers turning into dust and blowing away. WTH?

CON
Evidence of squibs and flashes in the footage. It is possible that there was a redundant system at work. It was necessary that all the towers were destroyed, so there were probably extra planes and extra demolition.  

Presence of thermite and melted iron spheres. The amount of left over thermite in all of Jones' dust samples would be consistent with the towers being saturated with demolition materials.  Again: possible redundancy?

IMHO, working on the theory of mossad being the primary actor, it would be easier to accomplish a conventional controlled demolition than it would to use DEW. I don't know much about the science, but it seems that this sort of science is much more protected and therefore difficult to deploy without detection.  That is just my hunch. Maybe these weapons are possessed by israel.  Maybe they are just lasers that can be fired from two helocopters.  I don't really know.  
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In conclusion I will repeat that I am not married to either theory, but that ad hom attacks should not substitute for a debate.  I would like to see further research into the thermite demolition patents and the science behind them.  

Also, there are other possibilities that perhaps are not raised.  Setting off thermobaric bombs at each floor level could accomplish much of what we saw on 9/11: Thermite charges cut the steel beams; Thermobaric bombs (using aluminum dust) could be set up between the floors, using the elevators as access without any notice by the occupants. These bombs have a powerful blast comparable to nukes, and I believe they would also be much more stable than high explosives such as RDX.    

Any theory must take into account all that was witnessed on 9/11.

[Michael K.]

Dear Christopher Marlowe,

There used to be a websit by a guy called David Hawkins, "Forensic Economist and Modern day Sherlock Holmes."  It was called hawkscafe.com, but now there are only a few vestigial traces that it ever existed.

Well, this guy claimed that he worked for Schlumberger, and said he knew exactly how they did everything.  The explosive, he claims, was a new class of fuel/air bomb which could be installed in long, thin tubes.  This new explosive powder contained in airtight tubes, which he named and gave many details of, is similar to what is in a solid rocket booster  It IMPLODES and then EXPLODES, and it is VERY fast.

Anyway, the upshot of the whole thing is that it could have been made to look like conduit or sprinkler pipes inside mechanical raceways that run the entire height of the building.  And, as you probably recall from the official 9-11 story, the reason WTC #7 was supposed to have caught fire was from, "an underground utility passage" between the buildings allowing fire from the collapsing twin towers to ignite a sudden core fire in #7.  Conclusion:  they used the underground passage to get access to the mechanical raceways and there installed exploding pipes that ran the length of the building.

He further went on to describe how the operation was commanded from a Carlisle group vessel at sea in the Atlantic, and realtime interactive communication software called "Mindbox" was the operating system chosen.

He also claims that all new Boeing 747's and such had these tubes of explosives installed in them from the get-go, so they can be detonated at a moments notice if need be.

Here's all I can find on the story now:

http://www.captainsherlock.com/
http://www.captainsherlock.com/911PowerPoint.ppt

[joeblow]

I have been a Conspiracy-theorist for most of my life, the older ones would pick on me because I was not present during JFK's death (the same way I pick on younger ones about 9-11   ). The entire time, to this present day, has been bogged down into HOW instead of WHO, let us not make the same mistake.  

Mossad and the JFK Assassination

http://sydwalker.info/docs/piper.html

Final Judgment: the Missing Link
in the JFK Assassination Conspiracy

So while people have focused on how many assassins were involved, and how many shots they fired at JFK and where the shots came from and where the bullets hit, the real question of who was ultimately responsible for the assassination-not who fired the bullets, but who sponsored the assassins who fired those bullets-has been ignored.

[Michael K.]

Dear Joe Blow,

I wanted to respond a little more here, not in the manner of demolition used at the WTC, but about the source which proposes to reveal something to us about it, namely 'Captain Sherlock."

I don't want to be viewed as the patsy who wants to carry lots of water for his oak-throwing hero, Captain Mc Connell. In fact, looking closely into the facade presented by these dis-information agents there are some of the same repetitious clues that we are NOT in Kansas anymore.

The number one thing Field McConnell and David Hawkings have going for them is apparently impressive resumes in the real world.  So there is no saying that we are merely dealing with whackos, here.  But the number one thing telling on them is their association with these symbols:

 This one refers to a military junta trying to take over the USA, more on that later...

This one refers to Templars, always a big bogie on the Jewdar...

Here we have the CIA's logo somewhat modified.  Nobody with any real credibility want to be associated with them...

Reveals a focus on sex as a religion, in context of the soft-porn writing style of David Hawkings.

And, of course, association with Rayelan Allen and Ted Gunderson raised am immediate red flag, too.

Let's read something I find very astute about the entire enterprise:

http://barbarahartwell.blogspot.com/2008/09/ken-adachi-rayelan-allan-false.html

Ken Adachi and Rayelan Allan: False Witnesses

The controlled opposition is kept under control by a containment-and-protection racket. Their goal is to keep the flow of information contained --by censorship; by carefully crafted disinformation fed to the participants; by bearing false witness against ANYONE who is not sanctioned by the racket. This, of course, includes anyone who tells the unadulterated TRUTH and lets the chips fall where they may. This includes ANYONE who cannot be bought, but serves only the TRUTH.

This is why you can never get the truth from anyone who is a part of a containment-and-protection racket, nor from any media which is owned by them. Once they sell out, they are in thrall to the protection racket. If they lie, if they falsely accuse another at the behest of the protection racket, they cannot retract their lies without retaliation.

This report exposes Ken Adachi and Rayelan Allan, both heavily involved in the containment-and- protection racket. They expose their own lies, by their own words, which are given below. But first, some TRUTH, by way of some background.