Charles Guliani - Jesus was a zionist zealot?

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Yo Mama

QuoteJerusalem burned to its rotten core, exactly as God warned it would

Luke 21:20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.

You do understand that the book of "Luke" was written long after the Romans sacked Jerusalem in 70 during the first Jewish revolt, right?

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Yo Mama

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Quote from: "Timothy_Fitzpatrick"Isaiah is a highly figurative book. When it speaks of Israel, it's speaking about a spiritual people, not a physical nation.

Ah yes, the Bible is literal when you want it to be, and figurative when you want it to be.  How convenient.

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Yo Mama

Quote from: "Timothy_Fitzpatrick"My main argument would be that he uses strawman arguments to prop up his position that the Bible is plagiarized from other religions and myths...

Well then, your "main argument" is a joke, because it's undeniable that the New Testament stories are just copied, sometimes word for word, from stories in the Old Testament.  This is all very well known to New Testament scholars, and is not controversial at all, except to religious kooks who think that the New Testament is history rather than literature.   :roll:

Evidence that Jesus is a Myth, Part 1: The Elijah/Elisha Connection
http://jesusisamyth.blogspot.com/2010/0 ... hiped.html

Evidence that Jesus is a Myth, Part 2: Likely OT Sources
http://jesusisamyth.blogspot.com/2010/02/1.html

Evidence that Jesus is a Myth, Part 3: Indisputable OT Sources
http://jesusisamyth.blogspot.com/2010/0 ... id_14.html


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Quote from: "Yo Mama"
Quote from: "Timothy_Fitzpatrick"Isaiah is a highly figurative book. When it speaks of Israel, it's speaking about a spiritual people, not a physical nation.

Ah yes, the Bible is literal when you want it to be, and figurative when you want it to be.  How convenient.

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Yo Mama

Quote from: "CrackSmokeRepublican"What do you know about the island of Patmos?

Well, I do know that place is full of magic mushrooms that make you hallucinate when you eat them.  Just ask the nut who wrote the book of "Revelation".   :D
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Timothy_Fitzpatrick

Quote from: "pas"Timothy_F said :

Quotehe uses strawman arguments to prop up his position that the Bible is plagiarized from other religions and myths

Are you willing to call in on his show to debate this?
Then you could expose his agenda and proof to his listeners that he's a jew shill.

If you don't, we can better drop this discussion. (at least i am :) ) No offence.Because you can't convince me with your theories (with nothing to back them up), and i've done my best to provide you with my conclusions after 100,s of hours listening to CG, but to no avail.

We would only be wasting each other's time. :D:D

Why should I call into "Guliani's" show? To prove it to you, or others? My mind is already made up. I am not interested in trying to convert others away from him. Alex Jones, definitely, but Guliani is small potatoes and thus not worth my time.

Pas, except for a few localized incidents, where is Guliani's evidence that God of the Old Testament is a homicidal maniac? Where is your evidence that the God of the OT acted unjustly? I fail to see how God wiping out a group of people that would have eventually destroyed humanity is unjust and how it means God is homicidal. Don't you think this is a gross mischaracterization of God?

If you were God, pas, and you saw that a small group of people were threatening to destroy all humanity, what would be the just thing for you to do? Should you let all of humanity die, so as not to be labelled genocidal?

It's pretty easy for people like you to sit there making armchair comments about how unjust God is without consideration for context. You make God an easy target with your infantile views of the Old Testament. It's not just as simple as kill or not kill. Just ask the homeowner who shoots an invader. You and people like Guliani paint a picture that it is simple to run an entire planet. Give God a break! This is extremely naive thinking. The human race still exists today, so obviously God made the right and just decision in the Old Testament.
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Yo Mama

Yahweh, the Genocidal Jewish War God

Genesis 4:3-5 - Yahweh causes sibling rivalry by favoring Abel over Cain.  This act of favoritism leads to Able's death.
Genesis 7:23 - Yahweh intentionally kills every man, woman, and child on the planet to save eight people.
Genesis 16:7-9 - Yahweh commands Hagar to go back into slavery and have babies with her master.
Genesis 19:23-25 - Yahweh burns down a whole city (women and children included) because they were homosexual.
Genesis 38:7 - Yahweh says that Er is wicked and so he kills him.
Genesis 38:10 - Yahweh kills Onan for refusing to commit incest with his sister in law.
Exodus 12:29 - Yahweh repeatedly tells Moses exactly what calamity he will inflict upon the Egyptians if the Pharaoh does not allow the Israelites to be set free from slavery.  Then he tells Moses (also repeatedly) that he will harden Pharaoh's heart, so that he will refuse to allow the Israelites to go, thus bringing a calamity upon his own people, as well as showing him the awesome power of the Israelites' god.  This occurs over and over, bringing calamity upon calamity upon the Egyptian people.  What is troubling about this verse is that when Yahweh "hardens the pharaoh's heart" he is interfering with the Pharaoh's free will and ultimately bringing punishment on the Egyptians for something they are not responsible for.  As a final punishment Yahweh decides to kill all the first born infants in Egypt.
Exodus 20:5 & 34:7 - Yahweh punishes children for the sins of their fathers, unto the third and fourth generations.
Exodus 21:2-6 - Yahweh endorses slavery. He even creates laws describing how slavery should be carried out.
Exodus 21:7 - Yahweh sanctions the selling of ones daughter into slavery.
Exodus 22:18 - Yahweh orders the death of witches, sorceresses and anyone who practices magic.
Exodus 32:27 - Yahweh orders to be killed 3,000 Israelites for worshipping a golden calf.
Leviticus 20:9-10 - Yahweh commands death for cursing ones parents and death for adultery.
Leviticus 21:16-23 - Yahweh says that handicapped people must not approach the altar.
Leviticus 26:30 - "And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat."
Leviticus 27:28-29 - Yahweh orders and allows human sacrifices.
Numbers 16:27 - Yahweh buries alive Korah and his family.
Numbers 16:35 - Yahweh kills 250 Levite princes who disagree with Moses' leadership.  Yahweh wants to kill more, but he is talked out of it.  Later Yahweh puts a plague on 14,700 Israelites who disagree with his killing of the 250 princes.
Numbers 21:1-3 - Yahweh utterly destroys the Canaanites at Hormah as a favor to the Jews.
Numbers 21:27-35 - Yahweh abets Moses in utterly destroying the Amorites at Heshbon: "...the men, the women, and the little ones."
Numbers 31:17-18 - Yahweh commands Moses to kill all the Medianite people, including children and women, and that the female children be saved for later raping by Moses' soldiers.
Deuteronomy 3:3-7 - Yahweh orders Moses' army to "utterly destroy" 60 cities, killing all the women and children within.
Deuteronomy 7:12 - Yahweh orders the Israelites to kill all the people of seven nations, and to "show no mercy unto them."
Deuteronomy 20:16 - Yahweh orders the Jews to kill everything that breathes in the cities that he gives them for an inheritance.
Deuteronomy 23:2 - Yahweh says that a bastard cannot attend a synagogue "even to his tenth generation."

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The Hebrew Bible, the Old Testament, expresses the genocidal Jewish plan to exterminate all non-Jews.

In the Old Testament, the genocidal Jews call themselves the "holy seed" (Ezra 9:2. Isaiah 6:13; 44:2-3; 59:20-21.) and the "elect" of their god (Isaiah 42:1; 45:4) who will survive the apocalypse, after which the Jews will have exterminated all non-Jews (In the Old Testament, see: Deuteronomy 32:43; 33:29. Psalms 2:1-2, 8-9; 18:40-50; 72:1-20; 75:3, 10; 79:6-7; 82:6-8; 83:9-10; 110:6; 137:8-9 Isaiah 11:4; 17:12-13; 33:12; 34:2; 41:11-12; 42:1; 49:26; 60:16; 65; 66. Jeremiah 2:3; 10:10-11, 25; 30:11; 33:15-16; 46:28. Ezekiel 25:14. Amos 9:8-10. Obadiah 1:18. Micah 4:12-13; 5:8. Zephaniah 3:8. Zechariah 2:8-9; 12:2. In the Babylonian Talmud it states that non-Jews and proselytes will have no place in the future world, see: Tractate Abodah Zarah, folio 3b. Tractate Yebamoth, folio 24b. Tractate Sanhedrin, folio 105a). The hateful Jews plan on sending all non-Jews to Hell forever (Psalms 9:17. Ezekiel 32:17-32).

Pick up a Christian Bible and read the Jewish "Old Testament", or "Hebrew Bible". You will quickly discover that the Jews are a perverse, murderous, and supremacist group and have been from the beginning. Is it just a coincidence that the Jews of today believe that they are a master race chosen by their genocidal Jewish god to be above all others (Exodus 19:5-6. Deuteronomy 7:6; 28:1-13. Zechariah 8:23); have taken over the governments of the World in the name of their genocidal Jewish god (Numbers 24:17-20. Psalms 2:1-12; 18:40-50; 72:8-11; 110:1-7. Isaiah 40:23; 49:7, 23; 60:12; 65; 66. Jeremiah 10:10. Ezekiel 36-39. Micah 17:16-17); are waging war on all non-Jewish religions in the name of their genocidal Jewish god (Exodus 34:11-17. Zechariah 14:9); seek a one World language and one World slave race in the name of their genocidal Jewish god (Zephaniah 3:9. Zhecharia 8:23); steal the wealth of Gentiles through usury but grow enraged when Jews practice usury against other Jews (Exodus 22:23-24. Leviticus 25:36-37. Deuteronomy 15:6; 23:20; 28:12-13. Ezekiel 18:13, 17); take non-Jewish women as sex slaves (Numbers 31:15-18); have stolen the land of Palestine and are actively genociding the Palestinians in the name of their genocidal Jewish god (Genesis 15:18-21; 17:8. Exodus 34:11-17. Numbers 33:50-56. Deuteronomy 11:24-28. Joshua 1:3-4. Isaiah 52:1. Ezra 1:5); and view non-Jews as animals (Ezekiel 23:20; 34:31. Ezra 9. Nehemiah 9:2; 13:3, 23-30. Isaiah 61:9); when it is a proven fact that all of these actions are commanded by the Jewish Old Testament and are accomplished in the name of their genocidal Jewish god by Jews today?

The genocidal Jewish "Old Testament" is an incitement to exterminate the human race.
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I 'research' CI because I think it's fascinating from a historical sense. I'm not a religious...at all...so I am not susceptible to becoming a follower of CI. However, I do believe that they have their facts straight about the "12 tribes of Israel" migrating to Europe and the other historical claims they make. Everything else they talk about strikes me as religious kookiness and a borderline 'chosenite' world view. Forgive me if I have offended anyone.

I listen to the following CI shows:

William Finck
http://christogenea.org/

Eli James
http://www.anglo-saxonisrael.com/

James Wickstrom(too fanatical and hateful at times though)
http://www.jameswickstrom.com/

Timothy_Fitzpatrick

Quote from: "Whaler"I 'research' CI because I think it's fascinating from a historical sense. I'm not a religious...at all...so I am not susceptible to becoming a follower of CI. However, I do believe that they have their facts straight about the "12 tribes of Israel" migrating to Europe and the other historical claims they make. Everything else they talk about strikes me as religious kookiness and a borderline 'chosenite' world view. Forgive me if I have offended anyone.

I listen to the following CI shows:

William Finck
http://christogenea.org/

Eli James
http://www.anglo-saxonisrael.com/

James Wickstrom(too fanatical and hateful at times though)
http://www.jameswickstrom.com/

Whaler, where ya been, watching the Stanley Cup playoffs?
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Christian Identity people are retarded nutjobs.  In other words, they're not much different from the average Christian fundamentalist.   :D
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Quote from: "Yo Mama"Christian Identity people are retarded nutjobs.  In other words, they're not much different from the average Christian fundamentalist.   :D

Hey YM,

I challenged you before... why not get a show or forum debate going and get the CI guys on a show/forum?  I think they just show the cards they have.
Guiliani had William Fink on and I thought Fink did a pretty job on the 06/01/2011 show. Guiliani did too but it was not a "one side" win.  I think Fink was a bit surprised he was getting blindsided but he came across with decent accounts.   There are many things that need to be explained if one doesn't have a "faith"... and they are far greater and far deeper than the conception of one man's mind...since people tend to die after 70 or so years... it all becomes a question of learning and belief... like why can't Darwin defend himself today? Or anyone in the Bible for that matter (New or Old Testament)... I think that is why Jews like Ray Kurzweil are so focused on "Synchronicity" since they can basically imprint their "mind view" from a computer to the average "goy" for eternity and without the human having free-will of sorts.  

While both, Guiliani and the CI types know the enemy.. one believes they fight with "God" (CI, assorted Catholics-Lutherans-Protestants wised up,  most Orthodox, basically clued in Christians) the other non-believing types may fight (Guiliani, Atheists, "this world is all we got") but with what? With only  "delusions, conundrums and inconsistencies"...right? God is vain and jealous...crazy as it may seem, it is "his" world and at this time he has disowned the Jews as his people via his son. Right?   ;)
So with the Jews scamming... one is either a "Samurai", a "Goth", or a "Crusader", or a "Saracen"...or perhaps a Byzantine...  if they are going to fight them. It is a hard "either, or".

After the Revolution of 1905, the Czar had prudently prepared for further outbreaks by transferring some $400 million in cash to the New York banks, Chase, National City, Guaranty Trust, J.P.Morgan Co., and Hanover Trust. In 1914, these same banks bought the controlling number of shares in the newly organized Federal Reserve Bank of New York, paying for the stock with the Czar\'s sequestered funds. In November 1917,  Red Guards drove a truck to the Imperial Bank and removed the Romanoff gold and jewels. The gold was later shipped directly to Kuhn, Loeb Co. in New York.-- Curse of Canaan

MonkeySeeMonkeyDo

Quote from: "pas"I hope your attack isn't a reaction, based alone, on the attack Charlie has made on your religion.

Of course that's the only reason for his attack upon Guiliani. Remember, he accused me of being a shill the minute I questioned his religion. Prior to that he was lapping up my every post. Fitzpatrick is a predictable ass clown.

MonkeySeeMonkeyDo

Quote from: "Timothy_Fitzpatrick"
Quote from: "pas"Timothy_F said :

Quotehe uses strawman arguments to prop up his position that the Bible is plagiarized from other religions and myths

Are you willing to call in on his show to debate this?
Then you could expose his agenda and proof to his listeners that he's a jew shill.

If you don't, we can better drop this discussion. (at least i am :) ) No offence.Because you can't convince me with your theories (with nothing to back them up), and i've done my best to provide you with my conclusions after 100,s of hours listening to CG, but to no avail.

We would only be wasting each other's time. :D:D

Why should I call into "Guliani's" show? To prove it to you, or others? My mind is already made up. I am not interested in trying to convert others away from him. Alex Jones, definitely, but Guliani is small potatoes and thus not worth my time.

Keyboard commando, cop out.

I love how you talk down to people much larger than yourself. If Guiliani is small potatoes then what does that make you?

pas

Timothy_Fitzpatrick said :

QuoteWhy should I call into "Guliani's" show? To prove it to you, or others? My mind is already made up. I am not interested in trying to convert others away from him. Alex Jones, definitely, but Guliani is small potatoes and thus not worth my time.

You've made very serious allegations and you don't have to prove to me, but proof it to yourself and let me know about it. :)That is : your claim that Charlie is a jew and is pursuing a jewish agenda.

QuotePas, except for a few localized incidents, where is Guliani's evidence that God of the Old Testament is a homicidal maniac?

problems of the Old Testament
part 1
http://mp3.oraclebroadcasting.com/Truth_Hertz/Truth_Hertz.2010-10-12_16k.mp3
part 2
http://mp3.oraclebroadcasting.com/Truth_Hertz/Truth_Hertz.2010-10-13_16k.mp3
part 3
http://mp3.oraclebroadcasting.com/Truth_Hertz/Truth_Hertz.2010-10-14_16k.mp3

QuoteWhere is your evidence that the God of the OT acted unjustly? I fail to see how God wiping out a group of people that would have eventually destroyed humanity is unjust

Whoever He killed and why, i don't know.It just seems to me He killed the wrong ones because the group that's destroying humanity is alive and kickin'.How much i try, i can't see the justice here.

Quotehow it means God is homicidal. Don't you think this is a gross mischaracterization of God?

Murder is murder, even if God does it, i don't discriminate (in this case atleast :) )

QuoteIf you were God, pas, and you saw that a small group of people were threatening to destroy all humanity, what would be the just thing for you to do? Should you let all of humanity die, so as not to be labelled genocidal?

You shouln't ask stuff me like this, i could get myself into trouble :).Just kiddin'.
I see it like this :Whatever happened, the group that's destroying humanity today are alive and kickin'."God" shouldn't care about a label, but He doesn't act against this group.That's a problem.

QuoteIt's pretty easy for people like you to sit there making armchair comments about how unjust God is without consideration for context. You make God an easy target with your infantile views of the Old Testament

If expressing an opinion based on every possible angle of looking at it, is an infantile view to you, we're in disagreement here.And there are also Christians who disagree with parts of the OT.

QuoteYou and people like Guliani paint a picture that it is simple to run an entire planet.

?? I have to deny this claim.And by this statement you also are in contradiction with the ''omnipotence'' of God, it seems.

QuoteIt's not just as simple as kill or not kill. Just ask the homeowner who shoots an invader

Justice has to be served, and it isn't.And you have to break a few eggs to make an omelet.

QuoteThe human race still exists today, so obviously God made the right and just decision in the Old Testament.

The human race is severely diseased today, this couldn't be the most just decision.To say so you again go against the supposed omnipotent power of God.
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MonkeySeeMonkeyDo

Quote from: "pas"Timothy_Fitzpatrick said :

QuoteWhy should I call into "Guliani's" show? To prove it to you, or others? My mind is already made up. I am not interested in trying to convert others away from him. Alex Jones, definitely, but Guliani is small potatoes and thus not worth my time.

You've made very serious allegations and you don't have to prove to me, but proof it to yourself and let me know about it. :)That is : your claim that Charlie is a jew and is pursuing a jewish agenda.

Don't expect Jew for Jesus here to provide any evidence for his wild claims. He never does. Everyone who disagrees with his religious horseshit is automaticaly called a Jew by him. That's his idea of a "debate". The guy is a old, senile crackpot.


mgt23

charles in his last show has made a very interesting claim/s.
1)Gospel of St Peter is found in 1892.....if so why hasn't it been canonised?
2)That early christians didn't have a ressurection mythology, that it was the gnostics who came up with the crucifixition mythology years later and jesus survived until the time of trajan to continue the essene plot of insurrection which led to the sacking of jeruselem.

Pretty wild.....

Timothy_Fitzpatrick

Quote from: "mgt23"charles in his last show has made a very interesting claim/s.
1)Gospel of St Peter is found in 1892.....if so why hasn't it been canonised?
2)That early christians didn't have a ressurection mythology, that it was the gnostics who came up with the crucifixition mythology years later and jesus survived until the time of trajan to continue the essene plot of insurrection which led to the sacking of jeruselem.

Pretty wild.....


Well, you might as well start believing in the Da Vinchi code, the Easter Bunny, and TV guide. I love how these Jewish archaeologists are all of a sudden finding all these "ancient" manuscripts that compromise the validity of the Bible.

Seriously, MGT23, Zeitgeist has been debunked as a fraud.

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Quote from: "pas"
QuoteWhere is your evidence that the God of the OT acted unjustly? I fail to see how God wiping out a group of people that would have eventually destroyed humanity is unjust

Whoever He killed and why, i don't know.It just seems to me He killed the wrong ones because the group that's destroying humanity is alive and kickin'.How much i try, i can't see the justice here.

So, because God didn't kill the Jews thousands of years ago—when they weren't ruling the planet—that was his mistake? God preserved the Jews so that they could bear witness to Christ and Christianity. You have to admit, the Jews' survival over thousands of years amid such strong opposition is miraculous, to say the least. And most importantly to today, God also preserved the Jews to serve as a curse on mankind, who is unrepentant and slipping deeper and deeper into apostasy. The more anti-Christian the world becomes, the more Jew-controlled it will become reciprocally. Do you think it is a coincidence that with the decline in Christianity there has been an increase in Illuminism, Freemasonry, and Kabbalism?

In order for the Jewish-Masonic French Revolution to occur and succeed, the Christian aristocracy had to be wiped out. Why? Because they could not co-exist; they were polar opposites. Before Bolshevism could succeed, the Christian Tsar had to be assassinated, Christian churches needed to be burnt to the ground, and the clergy had to be tortured and crucified. Judaism and Christianity are clearly polar opposites. And now, Judaism has one last stamping out of Christianity here in America.

QuoteMurder is murder, even if God does it, i don't discriminate (in this case atleast :) )

You want to have your cake and eat it too.

So, if God hadn't stamped out the cancer and let the human race die, you would criticize God for allowing humanity to die. Seems God can't win with you. This is not cut and dry, and you know it.

QuoteYou shouln't ask stuff me like this, i could get myself into trouble :).Just kiddin'.
I see it like this :Whatever happened, the group that's destroying humanity today are alive and kickin'."God" shouldn't care about a label, but He doesn't act against this group.That's a problem.

The Jews' day is coming, I can promise you that, but at the same time, Jews are not the only evil in this world. For all men sin and fall short of the glory of God. Wiping out the Jew alone would not fix the world forever. Another power group would eventually take hold.

QuoteIf expressing an opinion based on every possible angle of looking at it, is an infantile view to you, we're in disagreement here.And there are also Christians who disagree with parts of the OT.

And by this statement you also are in contradiction with the ''omnipotence'' of God, it seems.

Where did I contradict myself?

QuoteJustice has to be served, and it isn't.And you have to break a few eggs to make an omelet.

The only reason God is not judging the Jews, as well as the rest of us, is because we are being given more time to make it right. God only intervenes when absolutely necessary. When this world becomes as bad as Sodom and Gomorrah, expect his return and judgement day. Do you ever wonder why the good die young and evil and miserable people seem to live a long life? Well, it's because God is giving them time to repent, out of mercy.
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mgt23

im not espousing a zeitgeist or new agey position. im saying that early christians had different accounts of how he died before rome took hold.

Yo Mama

Actually, the early Christians couldn't even agree on whether or not Jesus Christ was a real historical person.

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What DID the Early Christians Believe?

http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/belief.html

There never was just one Christianity. Out of the milieu of religiosity that infected the Roman world, dozens of competing and conflicting Jesus/Sun-god/Mystery cults emerged. The first believers in Jesus maintained he was an ethereal spirit, much like other sky/sun-gods. Only later did he acquire a human death, a human life and finally a human birth. The composite 'Jesus Christ' character – god, man, king, carpenter, conqueror, peace-maker, dispenser of justice, advocate of love – was assembled to try to unify a fragmented and fractious messianic religious movement. In the mid-2nd century the Jewishness of the faith was purged but apologists had little to say about a human Jesus. They took comfort in noting similarities between their own ideas and pagan myths. The Christians remained a minority until well after one particular faction formed a political alliance with the Roman State. The orthodox creed remained unpopular for centuries and persecution was necessary to impose its will.
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Christians today, who affect such certainty over what their godman said and did, might be well served to pause and reflect that Christians who lived within a generation or two of their supposed saviour had no such certainty, that they speculated wildly, disagreed with each other to the point of violence, and organised rival churches.

For more than two hundred and fifty years the enthusiasts of Christ concocted astonishing fairy tales drawn from Pagan and Jewish antecedents and their own imagination.

Let's consider a few thorns in the crown of the godman –


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Whaler

Quote from: "Timothy_Fitzpatrick"
Quote from: "Whaler"I 'research' CI because I think it's fascinating from a historical sense. I'm not a religious...at all...so I am not susceptible to becoming a follower of CI. However, I do believe that they have their facts straight about the "12 tribes of Israel" migrating to Europe and the other historical claims they make. Everything else they talk about strikes me as religious kookiness and a borderline 'chosenite' world view. Forgive me if I have offended anyone.

I listen to the following CI shows:

William Finck
http://christogenea.org/

Eli James
http://www.anglo-saxonisrael.com/

James Wickstrom(too fanatical and hateful at times though)
http://www.jameswickstrom.com/

Whaler, where ya been, watching the Stanley Cup playoffs?

I have been traveling for the past week. I used one of those prepaid wireless cards the other night to post. $25 for like 5 hours of internet time. I'm Back home now.

and yeah...I have been watching the finals....Go Bruins.  :D:D

Timothy_Fitzpatrick

Whaler,

The Jews got a lot riding on this series. During one of the games, there were like 4 Jews in one suite in the arena: Gary Bettman, Daryl Katz (owner of the Edmonton Oilers), Mark Chipman (Owner of the new Winnipeg team) and some others. I just about shit myself when the camera panned over to these clowns, showing them having a laugh together. They were probably bragging about how they were milking us goyim with their "blood games." Or as the Protocols of Zion calls them, amusements.

Don Cherry was pretty pissed off that Chipman declined to put up a large painting of the Queen in the new arena in Winnipeg. Does Cherry realize what he is dealing with?
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Timothy_Fitzpatrick

mgt, is there video of Guliani? I don't trust that photo you provided. Surely there must be some video of him. IF there isnt, that raises alarms.
Fitzpatrick Informer:

Whaler

Quote from: "Timothy_Fitzpatrick"Whaler,

The Jews got a lot riding on this series. During one of the games, there were like 4 Jews in one suite in the arena: Gary Bettman, Daryl Katz (owner of the Edmonton Oilers), Mark Chipman (Owner of the new Winnipeg team) and some others. I just about shit myself when the camera panned over to these clowns, showing them having a laugh together. They were probably bragging about how they were milking us goyim with their "blood games." Or as the Protocols of Zion calls them, amusements.

Don Cherry was pretty pissed off that Chipman declined to put up a large painting of the Queen in the new arena in Winnipeg. Does Cherry realize what he is dealing with?

Yup, Betman has no business directing the NHL. Hockey is a cold climate sport....PERIOD. It is only appealing to cities that have strong youth hockey programs and where kids can go play pond hockey after school gets out. Good to see Winnipeg is getting a team again.




Massachusetts High School Hockey Players That Played in the NHL
http://www.brocktonhighschoolhockey.com ... ey_history


1970s

Robbie Ftorek- Needham HS (1970) -Detroit Red Wings

Fred Ahern- Boston Tech HS (1970) -California Golden Seals

Mike Milbury- Walpole HS (1971) -Boston Bruins

Mike Fidler- Malden Catholic (1974) -Minnesota North Stars

Jim Craig- Oliver Ames HS (1975) -Team USA 80'/Atlanta Flames

Jack O'Callahan- Boston Latin HS (1975) - Team USA 80'/Chicago Blackhawks

Rod Langway- Randolph HS (1975) -Montreal Canadiens

Dave Silk- Thayer Academy^ (1976) -Team USA 80'/Boston Bruins

Chris Nilan- Catholic Memorial (1978) -Montreal Canadiens

Andy Brickley- Melrose HS (1979) -Philadelphia Flyers

1980s

Bobby Carpenter- St. John's Prep (1980) -Washington Capitals

Mark Fusco- Belmont Hill^ (1980) -Hartford Whalers

John Carter- Woburn HS (1982) -Boston Bruins

Peter Laviolette**- Franklin HS (1982) -New York Rangers

Doug Brown- St. Mark's^ (1982) -New Jersey Devils

Scott Gordon**- Oliver Ames HS (1982) -Quebec Nordiques

Tom Barrasso- Acton-Boxboro HS (1983) -Buffalo Sabres

Bob Sweeney- Acton-Boxboro HS (1983) -Boston Bruins

Jeff Norton- Acton-Boxboro HS (1983) -New York Islanders

Kevin Stevens- Silver Lake HS (1983) -Pittsburgh Penguins

Brian Lawton- Mount St. Charles(RI) (1983) -Minnesota North Stars

Steve Leach- Matignon HS (1984) -Washington Capitals

Ken Hodge, Jr.- St. John's Prep (1984) -Minnesota North Stars

Tom Glavine- Billerica HS (1984) -Atlanta Braves***

Jon Morris- Chelmsford HS (1984) -New Jersey Devils

Brian Noonan- Archbishop Williams (1984) - Chicago Blackhawks

Tim Sweeney- Weymouth HS (1985) -Calgary Flames

Paul Stanton- Catholic Memorial (1985) -Pittsburgh Penguins

Craig Janney- Deerfield Academy^ (1985)- Boston Bruins

Scott Young- St. Mark's^ (1985) -Hartford Whalers

Jeff Lazaro- Waltham HS (1986) -Boston Bruins

Greg Brown- St. Mark's^ (1986) -Buffalo Sabres

Tom Fitzgerald- Austin Prep (1986) -New York Islanders

Mike Sullivan**- BC High (1986) -Calgary Flames

Brain Leetch- Avon Old Farms^ (1986) -New York Rangers

Garth Snow**- Mount St. Charles(RI) (1987) -Quebec Nordiques

Ed Ronan- Phillips Andover Academy^ (1987) -Montreal Canadiens

Joe Sacco**- Medford HS (1987) -Toronto Maple Leafs

David Sacco- Medford HS (1988) -Anaheim Mighty Ducks

Shawn McEachern- Matignon (1988) -Pittsburgh Penguins

Jeremy Roenick- Thayer Academy^ (1988) -Chicago Blackhawks

Tony Amonte- Thayer Academy^ (1988) - New York Rangers

Marty McInnis- Milton Academy^ (1988) -New York Islanders

Ted Donato- Catholic Memorial (1988) -Boston Bruins

Steve Heinze- Lawrence Academy^ (1988) -Boston Bruins

Ted Crowley- Lawrence Academy^ (1989) -Hartford Whalers

1990s

Keith Tkachuk- Malden Catholic (1990) -Winnipeg Jets*

John Lilley- Cushing Academy^ (1991) -Anaheim Mighty Ducks

Jay Pandolfo- Burlington HS (1992) -New Jersey Devils*

Shawn Bates- Medford HS (1992) -Boston Bruins

Jim Carey- Catholic Memorial (1992) -Washington Capitals

Chris O'Sullivan- Catholic Memorial (1992) -Calgary Flames

Eric Nickulas- Barnstable HS (1992) -Boston Bruins

Mike Grier- St. Sebastian's^ (1992) -Edmonton Oilers*

Joe Hulbig- St. Sebastian's^ (1992) -Edmonton Oilers

Hal Gill- Nashoba HS (1993) -Boston Bruins*

Chris Kelliher- St. Sebastian's^ (1994) -Boston Bruins

Brian White- Arlington Catholic (1994) -Colorado Avalanche

Chris Drury- Fairfield Prep (CT) (1994) - Colorado Avalanche*

Tom Poti- St. Peter Marian HS (1995) -Washington Capitals*

Dan LaCouture- Natick HS (1995) -Edmonton Oilers*

Brian Pothier- New Bedford HS (1995) -Washington Capitals*

Bryan Berard- Mount St. Charles(RI) (1995) -New York Islanders

Brian Boucher- Mount St. Charles(RI) (1995) -Philadelphia Flyers*

Mike Motteau- Thayer Academy^ (1996) -New Jersey Devils*

Blake Bellefuille- Framingham HS (1996) -Columbus Blue Jackets*

Keith Aucoin- Chelmsford HS (1997) -Carolina Hurricanes*

Niko Dimitrakos- Matignon (1997) -San Jose Sharks*

Pat Leahy- BC High (1997) -Boston Bruins

Bobby Allen- Cushing Academy^ (1997) -Boston Bruins

Carl Corazzini- St. Sebastian's^ (1997) -Boston Bruins*

Jim Fahey- Catholic Memorial (1998) -San Jose Sharks*

Rick Dipietro- Winthrop HS (1998) -New York Islanders*

Brian Eklund- Archbishop Williams (1998) - Tampa Bay Lightning

Mike Ryan- BC High (1999) -Buffalo Sabres*

2000s

Joe Callahan- BC High (2000) -San Jose Sharks*

Ryan Whitney- Thayer Academy^ (2000) -Team USA 10'-Pittsburgh Penguins*

Noah Welch- St. Sebastian's^ (2001) -Pittsburgh Penguins*

Josh Hennessy- Milton Academy^ (2001) -Ottawa Senators*

Brian Boyle- St. Sebastian's^ (2001) -Los Angeles Kings*

Chris Bourque- Cushing Academy^ (2004) -Washington Capitals*

Cory Schneider- Phillips Andover Academy^ (2004) -Vancouver Canucks*

Keith Yandle- Cushing Academy^ (2005) -Phoenix Coyotes*

Benn Ferriero- Governor Dummer^ (2005) -San Jose Sharks*



Ryan Whitney is a great dude. I played on the same team as him growing up. Very humble and down to earth
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Jeremy Roenick grew up in my area as well. He is a very arrogant and off-putting in person....but gotta give him props for having a hell of a career.

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Jews run professional sports because they run the Las Vegas sports betting and the TV networks....As you know.

Timothy_Fitzpatrick

#88
QuoteAn unclassified version of the software used by the FBI has allowed Veterans Today to track the IP addresses of a group of, what appeared to be, hate mongers and racists whose rhetoric borders on terrorist extremism.  What we found was astounding.  In one case, an individual using the email address "youdirtyfXXXingjew@XXXmail.com" was traced to the computer of the head the largest Jewish "defense" organization.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/06/11 ... proxy-war/

Reminds me off Charles Guliani's over the top "ELITE JEW PIGS" which he goes out of his way to say every 2 minutes.

Is Guliani a false flag plant? You betcha!

QuoteJews run professional sports because they run the Las Vegas sports betting and the TV networks....As you know.

True, but I am afraid is goes far deeper than that.

QuoteThe report [Report From Iron Mountain] considered ways in which the public could be preoccupied with non-important activities so that it would not have time to participate in political debate or resistance. Recreation, trivial game shows, pornography, and situation comedies could play an important role, but blood games were considered to be the most promising of all the options. Blood games are competitive events between individuals or teams that are sufficiently violent in nature to enable the spectators to vicariously work off their frustrations. [...] In this fashion, their anger at "society" is defused and focused, instead, on the opposing team. The emperors of Rome devised the Circuses and gladiator contests and public executions by wild beasts for precisely that purpose.

— G. Edward Griffin; The Creature From Jekyll Island






And yes, i agree that Jeremy Roenick is a douchebag.
Fitzpatrick Informer:

Whaler

Quote from: "Timothy_Fitzpatrick"
QuoteAn unclassified version of the software used by the FBI has allowed Veterans Today to track the IP addresses of a group of, what appeared to be, hate mongers and racists whose rhetoric borders on terrorist extremism.  What we found was astounding.  In one case, an individual using the email address "youdirtyfXXXingjew@XXXmail.com" was traced to the computer of the head the largest Jewish "defense" organization.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/06/11 ... proxy-war/

Reminds me off Charles Guliani's over the top "ELITE JEW PIGS" which he goes out of his way to say every 2 minutes.

Come on...Guliani is pretty mild. "Elite Jew pigs" is him actually saying that it's not all Jews...Just the Elite ones. Also he is not a white Nationalist and to my knowledge he hasn't preached a "racist" message ever.