TiU Radio - 23rd July 08 - Guest Daryl Bradford Smith (mp3)

[Ognir]

The Info Underground
TiU Radio

Wednesday  23rd July 2008
Special Guest Daryl
Daryl Bradford Smith (http://www.iamthewitness.com)

TiU welcomes DBS to discuss the issues of the day

Zionism
Politics
Financial crisis
When will the system breakdown

Alex Jones and his Zionist supporters
Israel and Iran
Money
Bird flu
The UN, WHO, and the rest
Apartheid state of Israel
Ireland and Europe
Sarkosy and France
EH


Small problem with the audio
lost the last 10 mins or so
Only words of wisdom for Prothink



and lots more
Enjoy


DBS   http://www.iamthewitness.com
Og      http://www.theinfounderground.com
           http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com


Direct Download  http://theinfounderground.com/archives/ ... 0Smith.mp3

[joeblow]

alf shukran, kheyli mamnoon, muchas gracias, tack så mycket, danke schon!!!!!!!! Greatest TiU ever!

[LatinAmericanview]

It amazes me how people could still follow people like Alex Jones(present company (excluded).  Anyone who reaches some sort of enlightenment 6 or 7 years after the fact should not be leading any type of movement. Honestly- Do really want someone who is 6/7 years behind the learning curve? Robert Fisk is another of these shills that has recently started questioning the official story.  lol

[Canard]

Good Show, anyone interested in that video by ww3; http://youtube.com/watch?v=LniAOut4ruE it's in the first 5 min where the Satanist angle pops in, I dont understand his explanation one bit.  How about you guys?

[joeblow]

http://thepiratebay.org/tor/4311956/The ... ford_Smith

[stoker]

Why won't these people explain their attacks on others?  DBS side stepped Og's question about calling into RBN (Rick Adams) shows. He said just recently that anyone who calls in, their names are being taking. Meanwhile he has been calling into Rick Adams, Sofia Smallstrom, Charles Gulliuani and Hertzog shows. I know the one time he called Rick Adams his brother was co hosting the show.
As far as Humura he also side stepped Og's question about the attack on Prothink coming from his site. WTF is going on?

[TriWooOx]

Will download tonight and listen to this, sounds like a good show ognir..

keep up the good work!

[Ognir]

As for what we *suggested* to Mike Prothink, we already said to him on the phone the previous day. Personally I'm getting a lot of emails from people worried about him since he meet up with John. Someone is actually calling him an agent, however I don't buy into that.

John is a different kettle of fish altogether. He's seems to be a stand up guy but adding in the guns and violence is setting off alarm bells amongst members of the movement. From history  or my understanding of US history,   these sort of groups are open to infiltration and could get some good people like Mike taken down and our point is that, Mike has a very young kid and family and they must be number one.

Feck sake,  we all openly talk about the police state in the US and this is not the time for us to lose good men as our numbers grow.

[joeblow]

[TarasBulba]

Great show.
It opened my eyes a bit concerning John. I liked his videos that he made but they seem to be dark in nature.

[AK3N470N]

I really have to ask concerning the last bit of this interview. How exactly are you planning on wining without the possibility of things getting violent. Do you honestly believe people are all going to rise up off their asses and arrest the criminals peacefully? If so, why haven't any of you arrested the criminals? We are all waiting for them to make the move. Not the other way around.

I am not a trusting person in any way which is what brought me to these facts. But I won't say the direction that Mike at Prothink and John are taking is wrong. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. If DBS talks about "things coming to a head" and how the whole world's economy is going to collapse in September, how is it possible that in the same breath he can say that Militias are bad? If there is chaos things are going to be peaceful? we can have a non-violent approach during chaos? I'm confused on that. Our masters will make the first move so if you are not trained, not prepared you may as well go to a camp where you will still have your needs taken care of. Project Off the Grid is an excellent idea and the fact that they have acquired all that native land is a step in the right direction. If you believe Militias are wrong and that we can win this thing without it getting violent, you are delusional.

John for WW3News is bashed for being part of the church of Satan. He admitted from the get go if I remember correctly that his detractors would out him as having a dark past. But his information and his presentation IMO is very well done. Because of his past that makes him a bad guy now according to DBS? Especially when we take into consideration we know nothing about DBS' real past and the man snapped after a photograph of him was placed on the internet. You want to be the front guy for the real truth movement but you don't want anyone to know what you look like or know really anything about you? I can understand why Hufschmid would consider him a "voice on the phone" in that sense. John posts videos where you can see him, he gives out his contact phone number publicly and has stated his past. Mike has done the same and they are bashed (well not so much Mike) for it. So why all the secrecy with DBS? He is secretive about giving out his number and how the bad guys want to get him but he calls into RBN to be on shows where they obviously record your whereabouts? what is this?? His info is gold and so is his site but these cat fights have really got to stop.

Also at the end Hufschmid is bashed because he says all Jews are guilty. I've read where he says be suspicious of all Jews since we know that the people pushing this conspiracy come from the Jewish crime network. Now in the same interview DBS talks about a guy named Siegel having a Jewish last name. The way he said it was like he was suspicious. Which would then mean (IMO) that he is suspicious of Jews. Which could then be drawn to the conclusion that he, like Hufschmid, is suspicious of all Jews and if they aren't completely ignorant they are simply ignoring what they see which makes them complicit. Only difference is Hufschmid is saying what he feels right out in the open, and that is, all Jews had better start looking at these facts and screaming along side the Goyim or they will all be swept up in the same dust pan. It isn't even a case of being "racist" as there is no Jewish race. This is a war, an information war for the time being and if the enemy is Talmudic Judaism, NOT ZIONISM (That dis-info needs to be squashed) then all members of the enemy faction need to be examined until we can separate the complicit from the innocent. Zionism is a political movement that is a little over 100 years young. There was a problem with Jews long before that. You all know this even if some of you don't admit it.

The banking families are not "Zionist Jews" they are Jews. If they let the Goyim have their way and Israel was destroyed but Usury stayed in existence, they still have complete control over us. These bankers could care less about Israel as far as I'm concerned and have no affiliation to any nation. Israel and religion is just another tool for them to make the world easier to conquer by using the millions of Christians to ultimately work against themselves. It also allows them to destroy Islam and take control of the black gold.

Good interview over all but it got very strange near the end with all the attacks on the messengers while claiming in the same audio file that attacking the messenger is wrong. Hufschmid is a strange character (anti-social it seems) but he has very unique ideas in his audio files and his information on deception is gold. DBS is a very secretive person but his info is also gold. Mike and John are doing the right thing by preparing for the worse. If this comes to a head we need to be prepared and trained to survive. A man can't really help anyone else unless he can help himself.

[Ognir]

Thanks for your comments

That was only one show, my first real time chatting to DBS and I'm looking forward to doing more audios in the future and we'll learn from this one and hopefully do better the next time.

Remember we are not all on the same level of awareness and we are trying to wakeup people that might be open to the message about our talmudic jewish conspiracy. If we only said jew jew jew, how far would we get with the message?

[Anonymous]

Thanks, Ognir, for having DBS as a guest.  You asked a lot of great questions and he had some great answsers and explanations.

Looking forward to additional interviews with DBS.

If I may say a word about John a.k.a. WW3News and now Force Multiplication; I think the guy is on the level and at the very least, honest, about who he is and where he comes from.  He did not have to admit to anything from his past in his videos, but he did, without providing the finer details of his escapades into the occult.  And remember, occult only means "hidden" it does not necessarily imply anything satanic.  I've studied the occult since I was a child, myself, although I chose not to go down the same road as John did.  Now, I'm not much into the militia experience and I agree with both DBS and Ognir about the violence issue and not providing our masters the opportunity to crush us at this point.  We need to lay low for as long as possible before the shooting starts.  But, I think we should consider that John and others are spot on regarding preparation for that day because it will come.  We are all internalizing this experience in various expressive ways.  Some, like myself, are just doing their best to get the word out and others like John are attempting to expose us to a completely different experience, which is learning how to defend ourselves and our families.  Lets not throw the baby out with the bathwater because he does not fall into a pre-accepted mode of conduct or thought.  When the shit hits the fan it will take all of us, no matter who we are or where we come from, or, what we think to fight off the Zionist dogs if we want to survive.  That's just my two-sense.  Thanks.

[Papillon]

Compliments, makes a lot of sense AK3N470N!! Yet I fully understand Daryl & Ognir's arguments, it is really difficult to make a choice, but there is a lot in between sitting around passively and militias & grabbing the guns! What about a citizens arrest of one of the top criminals, as Eric explained: 1000 men with a gun can do that without a single shot, they will be scared to death, just set an example of what the 'patriot goyim' is capable of! Being aware of every Jew is the correct attitude, I myself, I see my Jewish friends & family in a different light than a year ago although I know they are not more than poor dupes, just as we were, and actually their Jewishnes is a huge mental burden on their shoulders!

I have phantasies of what 1000 men with a gun easily could do, without a single shot: they could go to the NY or Wahington Post and demand they print an bombshell article on their frontpage, or they could go Fox O'reilly and have him read an article on national television! :-)

Papillon.

[Ognir]

I have phantasies of what 1000 men with a gun easily could do, without a single shot: they could go to the NY or Wahington Post and demand they print an bombshell article on their frontpage, or they could go Fox O'reilly and have him read an article on national television! :-)

I was going to say something else but I wouldn't.

I hope I do many more shows and educate myself along the way

[AK3N470N]

I'm not exactly sure what you are getting at with this pic. If you are trying to say that John is bad because Curt Maynard replied to his video and Curt Maynard is a racist, you should have a look at DBS' site. I'll send you a link:

http://www.iamthewitness.com/doc/The.Je ... abbers.htm

Where did that piece of information originate from?

Or this video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AiQJEk-STo

If you can explain to me what you meant by posting that pic that would be excellent.

[Ognir]

Just Joeblow stirring the pot again

[joeblow]

http://www.iamthewitness.com/doc/The.Je ... abbers.htm

If you really think that showing WITH EVIDENCE that gun-grabbing originated with Jewish people is racist, then you are both extremely behind the curve and are probably at the wrong place. But don't worry, there's plenty of people who will agree with you -> http://www.infowarsforum.com .

Curt Maynard is Satan's Asshole and is a sick, cancerous poison that must be excised from any legitimate group fighting the NWO.

[Ralph Furely]

this was a great show.  and id just like to say in regards to the whole dont trust any jew thing coming from eric, and then DBS saying dont trust bart cuz his last name is jewish.  the difference here is eric is saying dont trust any jew, anywhere, ever.  DBS is saying dont trust jewish ppl who are seemingly trying to control this truth momvement.  be suspicious of any jewish person in this 9/11 truth movement.  that makes sense because obviously it has been taken over or derailed by suspicious jewish ppl.  hes not saying trust no jew ever.  like eric is saying.  rather to not trust any jewish person in the truth movement, as with the govt, there is obviously a disproportionate ammount of jews in this movement.  and they more times than not seem to be giving out disinfo and/or trying to fuck with the movement in a negative way.

if your still sticking up for eric at this point i dont know what to tell you.  i still like to listen to him from time to time because he does usualy make sense.  but i also do not trust him at all after all the shit he caused with daryl, and al the shinanigans hes guilty of creating.  there is definitly something up with him; what it is i do not know.  but i surely dont trust him.  he starts fights and trys to divide the entire cause.  he needs to settle down and maybe just concentrate on doing his own thing and not worry about what daryl is doing.  
its pretty apparent that he tried to completely ruin daryl from behind the scenes.  he slings a lot of shit and never addresses the strange things going on with himself.

[AK3N470N]

http://www.iamthewitness.com/doc/The.Je ... abbers.htm

If you really think that showing WITH EVIDENCE that gun-grabbing originated with Jewish people is racist, then you are both extremely behind the curve and are probably at the wrong place. But don't worry, there's plenty of people who will agree with you -> http://www.infowarsforum.com .

Curt Maynard is Satan's Asshole and is a sick, cancerous poison that must be excised from any legitimate group fighting the NWO.

I guess you really missed the point of what I was writing. You must have also skipped past my first post in this thread. Not sure what to make of what you have written so I will make it clear what I was originally trying to state.

You posted a screenshot of 2 comments coming from Curt Maynard towards John from ForceMultiplication. Then you spliced that shot with his opinion based article about Niggers and I'm sure he thinks all black people are cancerous parasites but I could really care less about that. Now in case your not reading this properly, that gun-grabbing article comes from a source and the author of that source is.... CURT MAYNARD. So I'm not saying that outting the gun grabbers being Jewish is racist, if you read my first post in this thread I state clearly that there is no Jewish race. I also posted the video that goes with that CURT MAYNARD article which was presented by Mike and John. If Curt Maynard is Satan's asshole like you say, how can you not notice that the gun-grabbing article originates from him? Or did you think there were two people named Curt Maynard...

You see it's doing tactics like this that cause stupid cat fights. Curt Maynard is a racist obviously but the gun-grabbing article is useful info. So you take that info and whatever other useful info he might have, and leave him the hell alone. But trying to make John look bad for having approved comments by this guy and then not noticing that DBS also linked to this guy, is very hypocritical and lazy researching.

You need to read everything before you share your thoughts. If you read my first post you wouldn't be able to say that I am behind the curve and need to go back to Infowars. I left AJ is 2005.

Take care,

AK3N470N

[ThaTruth920]

I really have to ask concerning the last bit of this interview. How exactly are you planning on wining without the possibility of things getting violent. Do you honestly believe people are all going to rise up off their asses and arrest the criminals peacefully? If so, why haven't any of you arrested the criminals? We are all waiting for them to make the move. Not the other way around.

I am not a trusting person in any way which is what brought me to these facts. But I won't say the direction that Mike at Prothink and John are taking is wrong. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. If DBS talks about "things coming to a head" and how the whole world's economy is going to collapse in September, how is it possible that in the same breath he can say that Militias are bad? If there is chaos things are going to be peaceful? we can have a non-violent approach during chaos? I'm confused on that. Our masters will make the first move so if you are not trained, not prepared you may as well go to a camp where you will still have your needs taken care of. Project Off the Grid is an excellent idea and the fact that they have acquired all that native land is a step in the right direction. If you believe Militias are wrong and that we can win this thing without it getting violent, you are delusional.

John for WW3News is bashed for being part of the church of Satan. He admitted from the get go if I remember correctly that his detractors would out him as having a dark past. But his information and his presentation IMO is very well done. Because of his past that makes him a bad guy now according to DBS? Especially when we take into consideration we know nothing about DBS' real past and the man snapped after a photograph of him was placed on the internet. You want to be the front guy for the real truth movement but you don't want anyone to know what you look like or know really anything about you? I can understand why Hufschmid would consider him a "voice on the phone" in that sense. John posts videos where you can see him, he gives out his contact phone number publicly and has stated his past. Mike has done the same and they are bashed (well not so much Mike) for it. So why all the secrecy with DBS? He is secretive about giving out his number and how the bad guys want to get him but he calls into RBN to be on shows where they obviously record your whereabouts? what is this?? His info is gold and so is his site but these cat fights have really got to stop.

Also at the end Hufschmid is bashed because he says all Jews are guilty. I've read where he says be suspicious of all Jews since we know that the people pushing this conspiracy come from the Jewish crime network. Now in the same interview DBS talks about a guy named Siegel having a Jewish last name. The way he said it was like he was suspicious. Which would then mean (IMO) that he is suspicious of Jews. Which could then be drawn to the conclusion that he, like Hufschmid, is suspicious of all Jews and if they aren't completely ignorant they are simply ignoring what they see which makes them complicit. Only difference is Hufschmid is saying what he feels right out in the open, and that is, all Jews had better start looking at these facts and screaming along side the Goyim or they will all be swept up in the same dust pan. It isn't even a case of being "racist" as there is no Jewish race. This is a war, an information war for the time being and if the enemy is Talmudic Judaism, NOT ZIONISM (That dis-info needs to be squashed) then all members of the enemy faction need to be examined until we can separate the complicit from the innocent. Zionism is a political movement that is a little over 100 years young. There was a problem with Jews long before that. You all know this even if some of you don't admit it.

The banking families are not "Zionist Jews" they are Jews. If they let the Goyim have their way and Israel was destroyed but Usury stayed in existence, they still have complete control over us. These bankers could care less about Israel as far as I'm concerned and have no affiliation to any nation. Israel and religion is just another tool for them to make the world easier to conquer by using the millions of Christians to ultimately work against themselves. It also allows them to destroy Islam and take control of the black gold.

Good interview over all but it got very strange near the end with all the attacks on the messengers while claiming in the same audio file that attacking the messenger is wrong. Hufschmid is a strange character (anti-social it seems) but he has very unique ideas in his audio files and his information on deception is gold. DBS is a very secretive person but his info is also gold. Mike and John are doing the right thing by preparing for the worse. If this comes to a head we need to be prepared and trained to survive. A man can't really help anyone else unless he can help himself.

I agree with this brotha right here. I stated something similar on khanverse phorums when someone brought up not liking the content expressed between Mike and John. Bottom line, things will get worse before they get better and their will be violence. I am throughly prepared to protect my family and friends and everyone else should be as well. These criminals will take the first violent step and it will not be their last either. When the SHTF we need to fight back less we are herded to the camps. I got my rifle and plenty of ammo and I would rather die free than a slave. Its funny, about 2 years ago I had emailed DBS about things going on in this country and he specifically stated to make sure you have guns and plenty of ammo. I got that. Food too. And growing a garden. People should do the same. I am somewhat confused on his stances as far as violence because defense includes violence... to some degree. I really thing DBS is more concerned with the association with the church of satan and with Koernke's association with Alex Jones. I listen to Koernke - as John suggested - and he has A LOT of good information. AJ is bad all the way and I won't waste any time on that. The point is the spread of the message and self defense. Those should be priority in everyones life right now. When the economy collapses or that first nuke goes off.... panic and fear will be everyones enemy and the criminals running the show will use that to their advantage. Be prepared or be dead.

[ThaTruth920]

I have phantasies of what 1000 men with a gun easily could do, without a single shot: they could go to the NY or Wahington Post and demand they print an bombshell article on their frontpage, or they could go Fox O'reilly and have him read an article on national television! :-)

Papillon.

Think what 1000 men with 30 round mags can do when it comes down to defending their town....  :shock:

[Canard]

http://www.iamthewitness.com/doc/The.Je ... abbers.htm

If you really think that showing WITH EVIDENCE that gun-grabbing originated with Jewish people is racist, then you are both extremely behind the curve and are probably at the wrong place. But don't worry, there's plenty of people who will agree with you -> http://www.infowarsforum.com .

Curt Maynard is Satan's Asshole and is a sick, cancerous poison that must be excised from any legitimate group fighting the NWO.

I guess you really missed the point of what I was writing. You must have also skipped past my first post in this thread. Not sure what to make of what you have written so I will make it clear what I was originally trying to state.

You posted a screenshot of 2 comments coming from Curt Maynard towards John from ForceMultiplication. Then you spliced that shot with his opinion based article about Niggers and I'm sure he thinks all black people are cancerous parasites but I could really care less about that. Now in case your not reading this properly, that gun-grabbing article comes from a source and the author of that source is.... CURT MAYNARD. So I'm not saying that outting the gun grabbers being Jewish is racist, if you read my first post in this thread I state clearly that there is no Jewish race. I also posted the video that goes with that CURT MAYNARD article which was presented by Mike and John. If Curt Maynard is Satan's asshole like you say, how can you not notice that the gun-grabbing article originates from him? Or did you think there were two people named Curt Maynard...

You see it's doing tactics like this that cause stupid cat fights. Curt Maynard is a racist obviously but the gun-grabbing article is useful info. So you take that info and whatever other useful info he might have, and leave him the hell alone. But trying to make John look bad for having approved comments by this guy and then not noticing that DBS also linked to this guy, is very hypocritical and lazy researching.

You need to read everything before you share your thoughts. If you read my first post you wouldn't be able to say that I am behind the curve and need to go back to Infowars. I left AJ is 2005.

Take care,

AK3N470N

Well said.

[Canard]

I have phantasies of what 1000 men with a gun easily could do, without a single shot: they could go to the NY or Wahington Post and demand they print an bombshell article on their frontpage, or they could go Fox O'reilly and have him read an article on national television! :-)

Papillon.

Think what 1000 men with 30 round mags can do when it comes down to defending their town....  :shock:

Hey are you new? Welcome, the more the merrier.

[ThaTruth920]

I have phantasies of what 1000 men with a gun easily could do, without a single shot: they could go to the NY or Wahington Post and demand they print an bombshell article on their frontpage, or they could go Fox O'reilly and have him read an article on national television! :-)

Papillon.

Think what 1000 men with 30 round mags can do when it comes down to defending their town....  :shock:

Hey are you new? Welcome, the more the merrier.

New to this forum... I think this is the second forum i've ever joined. First was khanverse phorum... I am not new to whats going on in this world though. Same story as the rest ... ran into AJ online, then kept bumping into people bashing a guy named DBS and the topic of zionism... wanted to find out more info on the people and subject... read a bunch of books, etc.... learned a bunch from DBS and EH almost 4 years ago...

Thanks for the welcome. Much appreciated.

[Anonymous]

I really have to ask concerning the last bit of this interview. How exactly are you planning on wining without the possibility of things getting violent. Do you honestly believe people are all going to rise up off their asses and arrest the criminals peacefully? If so, why haven't any of you arrested the criminals? We are all waiting for them to make the move. Not the other way around.

I am not a trusting person in any way which is what brought me to these facts. But I won't say the direction that Mike at Prothink and John are taking is wrong. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. If DBS talks about "things coming to a head" and how the whole world's economy is going to collapse in September, how is it possible that in the same breath he can say that Militias are bad? If there is chaos things are going to be peaceful? we can have a non-violent approach during chaos? I'm confused on that. Our masters will make the first move so if you are not trained, not prepared you may as well go to a camp where you will still have your needs taken care of. Project Off the Grid is an excellent idea and the fact that they have acquired all that native land is a step in the right direction. If you believe Militias are wrong and that we can win this thing without it getting violent, you are delusional.

John for WW3News is bashed for being part of the church of Satan. He admitted from the get go if I remember correctly that his detractors would out him as having a dark past. But his information and his presentation IMO is very well done. Because of his past that makes him a bad guy now according to DBS? Especially when we take into consideration we know nothing about DBS' real past and the man snapped after a photograph of him was placed on the internet. You want to be the front guy for the real truth movement but you don't want anyone to know what you look like or know really anything about you? I can understand why Hufschmid would consider him a "voice on the phone" in that sense. John posts videos where you can see him, he gives out his contact phone number publicly and has stated his past. Mike has done the same and they are bashed (well not so much Mike) for it. So why all the secrecy with DBS? He is secretive about giving out his number and how the bad guys want to get him but he calls into RBN to be on shows where they obviously record your whereabouts? what is this?? His info is gold and so is his site but these cat fights have really got to stop.

Also at the end Hufschmid is bashed because he says all Jews are guilty. I've read where he says be suspicious of all Jews since we know that the people pushing this conspiracy come from the Jewish crime network. Now in the same interview DBS talks about a guy named Siegel having a Jewish last name. The way he said it was like he was suspicious. Which would then mean (IMO) that he is suspicious of Jews. Which could then be drawn to the conclusion that he, like Hufschmid, is suspicious of all Jews and if they aren't completely ignorant they are simply ignoring what they see which makes them complicit. Only difference is Hufschmid is saying what he feels right out in the open, and that is, all Jews had better start looking at these facts and screaming along side the Goyim or they will all be swept up in the same dust pan. It isn't even a case of being "racist" as there is no Jewish race. This is a war, an information war for the time being and if the enemy is Talmudic Judaism, NOT ZIONISM (That dis-info needs to be squashed) then all members of the enemy faction need to be examined until we can separate the complicit from the innocent. Zionism is a political movement that is a little over 100 years young. There was a problem with Jews long before that. You all know this even if some of you don't admit it.

The banking families are not "Zionist Jews" they are Jews. If they let the Goyim have their way and Israel was destroyed but Usury stayed in existence, they still have complete control over us. These bankers could care less about Israel as far as I'm concerned and have no affiliation to any nation. Israel and religion is just another tool for them to make the world easier to conquer by using the millions of Christians to ultimately work against themselves. It also allows them to destroy Islam and take control of the black gold.

Good interview over all but it got very strange near the end with all the attacks on the messengers while claiming in the same audio file that attacking the messenger is wrong. Hufschmid is a strange character (anti-social it seems) but he has very unique ideas in his audio files and his information on deception is gold. DBS is a very secretive person but his info is also gold. Mike and John are doing the right thing by preparing for the worse. If this comes to a head we need to be prepared and trained to survive. A man can't really help anyone else unless he can help himself.

VERY well said! I will address this issue more in depth later and will be taking an independent stance on the entire issue myself.

[blueocean]

1 If John is for real and reformed,as he says, then let him do a complete outing of the occult/satanism he was a part of (or founder) and out it completely and also make a video how to really out AND hurt these satanists/occultists and their practices and their teachings the hardest. (all three)

After all he was an insider.   That way he can become a 'Riddick' type companion to the fight.  simple aye?


2 Looking forward to Mike's individual standpoint.


3 Be aware of what type of message we want to bring to the public (including enemy media) and how to best manage that for maximum succes.

[GordZilla]

I really have to ask concerning the last bit of this interview. How exactly are you planning on wining without the possibility of things getting violent. Do you honestly believe people are all going to rise up off their asses and arrest the criminals peacefully? If so, why haven't any of you arrested the criminals? We are all waiting for them to make the move. Not the other way around.

I am not a trusting person in any way which is what brought me to these facts. But I won't say the direction that Mike at Prothink and John are taking is wrong. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. If DBS talks about "things coming to a head" and how the whole world's economy is going to collapse in September, how is it possible that in the same breath he can say that Militias are bad? If there is chaos things are going to be peaceful? we can have a non-violent approach during chaos? I'm confused on that. Our masters will make the first move so if you are not trained, not prepared you may as well go to a camp where you will still have your needs taken care of. Project Off the Grid is an excellent idea and the fact that they have acquired all that native land is a step in the right direction. If you believe Militias are wrong and that we can win this thing without it getting violent, you are delusional.

John for WW3News is bashed for being part of the church of Satan. He admitted from the get go if I remember correctly that his detractors would out him as having a dark past. But his information and his presentation IMO is very well done. Because of his past that makes him a bad guy now according to DBS? Especially when we take into consideration we know nothing about DBS' real past and the man snapped after a photograph of him was placed on the internet. You want to be the front guy for the real truth movement but you don't want anyone to know what you look like or know really anything about you? I can understand why Hufschmid would consider him a "voice on the phone" in that sense. John posts videos where you can see him, he gives out his contact phone number publicly and has stated his past. Mike has done the same and they are bashed (well not so much Mike) for it. So why all the secrecy with DBS? He is secretive about giving out his number and how the bad guys want to get him but he calls into RBN to be on shows where they obviously record your whereabouts? what is this?? His info is gold and so is his site but these cat fights have really got to stop.

Also at the end Hufschmid is bashed because he says all Jews are guilty. I've read where he says be suspicious of all Jews since we know that the people pushing this conspiracy come from the Jewish crime network. Now in the same interview DBS talks about a guy named Siegel having a Jewish last name. The way he said it was like he was suspicious. Which would then mean (IMO) that he is suspicious of Jews. Which could then be drawn to the conclusion that he, like Hufschmid, is suspicious of all Jews and if they aren't completely ignorant they are simply ignoring what they see which makes them complicit. Only difference is Hufschmid is saying what he feels right out in the open, and that is, all Jews had better start looking at these facts and screaming along side the Goyim or they will all be swept up in the same dust pan. It isn't even a case of being "racist" as there is no Jewish race. This is a war, an information war for the time being and if the enemy is Talmudic Judaism, NOT ZIONISM (That dis-info needs to be squashed) then all members of the enemy faction need to be examined until we can separate the complicit from the innocent. Zionism is a political movement that is a little over 100 years young. There was a problem with Jews long before that. You all know this even if some of you don't admit it.

The banking families are not "Zionist Jews" they are Jews. If they let the Goyim have their way and Israel was destroyed but Usury stayed in existence, they still have complete control over us. These bankers could care less about Israel as far as I'm concerned and have no affiliation to any nation. Israel and religion is just another tool for them to make the world easier to conquer by using the millions of Christians to ultimately work against themselves. It also allows them to destroy Islam and take control of the black gold.

Good interview over all but it got very strange near the end with all the attacks on the messengers while claiming in the same audio file that attacking the messenger is wrong. Hufschmid is a strange character (anti-social it seems) but he has very unique ideas in his audio files and his information on deception is gold. DBS is a very secretive person but his info is also gold. Mike and John are doing the right thing by preparing for the worse. If this comes to a head we need to be prepared and trained to survive. A man can't really help anyone else unless he can help himself.

Damn straight! Good post.

Truth is we can all learn a little something from everyone!

-Gord

[AK3N470N]

1 If John is for real and reformed,as he says, then let him do a complete outing of the occult/satanism he was a part of (or founder) and out it completely and also make a video how to really out AND hurt these satanists/occultists and their practices and their teachings the hardest. (all three)

After all he was an insider.   That way he can become a 'Riddick' type companion to the fight.  simple aye?


2 Looking forward to Mike's individual standpoint.


3 Be aware of what type of message we want to bring to the public (including enemy media) and how to best manage that for maximum succes.

I agree with much of what you say. I have no clue what they really teach you in a dark occult school but if you are symbol literate and understand subliminal messages and have a basic understanding of sacred geometry, I am not sure what else there is that could be outed. I will have to wait until I learn something new from an insider however. I have been told many times not to focus on this side of information too deeply long before I heard of John. A lot of what these students may be taught wouldn't necessarily be the truth and doesn't do us much good to pass it on to new listeners IMO. Like I said it is not good to focus on this kind of thing too deeply. For example, about a year and a half ago I was approached by a supposed member to the Canadian Rocky Mountain Mystery School Headquarters which teaches Universal kabbalah and other mystery school "info" (I really want to say nonsense here). They do so at a ridiculous price and the whole thing is a racket, but that is just my opinion. This school teaches or tries to give the teachings of King Solomon from 3,000-3,500 years ago. Solomon derives from Latin not Hebrew such word in Hebrew is Sh'lomo so right off the bat we know we are being fed a truth that isn't quite right. No one was speaking Latin at that time. Sol comes from Latin and the sun was Ra in those days. Latin comes later and elsewhere. The same type of translation example can be made with Lucifer in the King James bible.

Like stated elsewhere, this network will be destroyed much quicker from the inside out. I have a contact in Israel who I have been sharing info and thoughts with for the last 6+ months. We don't agree on everything as it is harder for me to have compassion after growing up in the western world and this contact being Jewish. Of course we know that this separation is a great tool "The anti-Semites shall be our best friends" and is done so by design. It is excellent however to know that Israelis are speaking out and learning about Zionism and the money changers. In return I get to learn more on Hebrew and the spiritual (that word has been misused so I don't really like using it) side of things. She and her husband live in Tzfat and they are well versed on the Torah and Hebrew. I also get to learn from first hand knowledge how their govt just like all others are screwing them over. But it helps our cause greatly when the people of Jewish faith start researching and speaking out.

Another thing that has been on my mind along the lines of the cat fighting are "theories" and fact. There are many definitions of a theory but the one I will use for what I am getting at is "A belief or principle that guides action or assists comprehension or judgment". Such definition means that to have this belief you are basing your judgment on your opinion not facts. The theory I am talking about is the concept that there are 2 factions of Jews fighting for control of the world. The banking Jews vs the Zionist Jews. Such a theory can only make sense if you have the solid inside proof that such events are in fact occurring. There is definitely infighting going on, don't get me wrong but to out people as "shills working for the enemy" because they produce info on the banking Jews is wrong. Lets say for a moment that we have hard proof that the banking Jews really are at war with the Zionist Jews. The Zionist Jews as rich as some of them may be, depend on money, money coming from where? If we know that not all Jews in the world could possibly be involved but there is a war going on between the Zionists and the Banking Jews this would then make their numbers even smaller. If this is the case, there is no way for them to even take control of the world. But like I stated in my first post, if we were to eliminate Zionism but Usury remained, we are still slaves to the very thing we need in our daily lives. Zionist Jews vs Banking Jews is a theory and nothing more.

I always just go for the info and don't spend anytime on the personality of the person sharing the info but that is not to say I don't keep such thoughts in my mind. We have truth seekers who are almost all alone complaining that they have been ignored by everyone else in the movement and so therefore everyone else is a shill. This again is another theory. If a person creates fights with everyone around them, they will be left alone. Their information is still worthy of praise none the less.

I have lots on my mind regarding how attacks were made almost out of the blue as far as I'm concerned. As well as the condemnation for us to defend ourselves. I will save my thoughts for later as it's Friday night and I have some "slave minded sheeple fun" to adhere to   .

Peace be upon you all.

AK3N470N

[Anonymous]

He admitted from the get go if I remember correctly that his detractors would out him as having a dark past.

   Keen memory.

   I find it interesting that DBS praised me on the telephone and then publicly denounces me. This is only to be expected. More will come, to be sure.

   I have a number of corrections and rebuttals to make to the statements presented against me and they will come in time. For now, I would like to note that it is interesting that DBS speaks out of complete ignorance when it comes to Satanism and the Church of Satan and compares me to Jeffrey Dahmer. I would expect slander but not such paltry research from a man such as Mr. Smith, who I have unfortunately held in the highest esteem.

   For those unaware, Anton Szandor LaVey (real name: Howard Levi [Jew], founder of the Church of Satan circa 1966, author of The Satanic Bible circa 1969) denounces animal and human sacrifice and any such sensationalist evils presented at the pulpit by hysterical so-called Christian preachers who have no actual familiarity with the things they fulminate. Apparently DBS is not aware that there are various sects of Satanism just as there are with Christianity and [LaVey] Satanists are atheistic (neither actually believing in Satan or God, and merely use Satan as a poster icon for a rebellious philosophy based upon Ayn Rand's Objectivism and the words of Nietzsche). Such a statement is not an attack on Mr. Smith as most people are unfamiliar with such facts. Devil Worshipers and those who call themselves "Traditional Satanists" are quite different than [LaVey] Satanists. Additionally, all such sects are different from Luciferianism.

For the record,I was a member of the Church of Satan, registered at the age of 17. On the day I sent my membership request to the Church of Satan, LaVey dropped dead (October 29, 1997). Following that I quickly trounced LaVey as a charlatan and assisted in the founding of a non-profit [religious] corporation dedicated to the expansion of Satanism in the two-thousand and third year of the common era; which is the Grand Black Lodge. I have no association to Satanism other than the tattoos that I still bare. Officially, my belief structure would be called Christian Gnosticism. As a side note, such a belief is quite the enemy of the Vatican, as gnostics have been repeatedly burned and tortured by them. Reference the Cathars for starters. The inner priesthood of the Black Lodge has always known that it existed to secretly serve the Christic principle, just as in quite the opposite direction the so-called White Lodge of Freemasonry serves Lucifer. It should be noted that Lutherianism, Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormonism were all started by Freemasons, but that's another talk-show. There is a no longer a need for the Black Lodge as it is abundantly clear to an important few and an instrumental many who the enemies of humanity and Christ's teachings really are.

   If, as DBS declares, we need "righteous forthrightness and honesty" then I have given it and will continue to do so. I'll be back, but for now I'm trying to complete my time machine so I can go back and tell General George Washington that his involvement with militia groups is detrimental to the future of America. For now. . .

   Be careful who you take to the stake. . .you may burn one of your greatest allies.

   Esse Est Percipi

   E Pluribus Unum


   Stay strong,
      John