Caroline Yeager VS Charles Giuliani

Started by -Pas-, September 08, 2011, 11:39:40 PM

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-Pas-

Once again there's infighting in the ''movement'', and this time it's the people mentioned in the title.

Wednesday 31 of august(http://mp3.oraclebroadcasting.com/Truth_Hertz/Truth_Hertz.2011-08-31_16k.mp3) Mrs. Yeager was a guest on the Truth Hertz show and the topic was Hitler.The discussion went very well but in the last half hour Mrs. Yeager made some critical remarks on Giuliani's research and was speaking a bit too dominant by talking over.The program ended on a friendly note because Giuliani didn't react to Mrs. Yeager's behaviour.

He probably got a lot of reactions, because the following show:http://mp3.oraclebroadcasting.com/Truth_Hertz/Truth_Hertz.2011-09-01_16k.mp3 (first half hour or so) he starts ranting on how he feels offended by Mrs Yeager's behaviour and on and on even calling her a b*tch.And in the following show(http://mp3.oraclebroadcasting.com/Truth_Hertz/Truth_Hertz.2011-09-02_16k.mp3) he brings it up again and mentions that Mrs. Yeager e-mailed him that she doesn't want to come on as a guest anymore.

The silly thing is that this fight is really about nothing, i mean it has nothing to do with the information that was discussed.Because Giuliani has stated that Mrs. Yeager is more knowlegdable on this subject (Hitler), and that SHE is probably correct in her assessments but he can't stand her ways of presenting her case.

I'm pretty pissed over this.These two are one of the best researchers with a radio show and a cooperation between the two would be a great force for the truth. :down:  :evil:

Timothy_Fitzpatrick

Charlies Giuliani, a great researcher? Wow, it doesn't take much to win you over, does it? I wouldn't fuss over spooks and shills.
Fitzpatrick Informer:

-Pas-

Timothy_Fitzpatrick wrote:

QuoteCharlies Giuliani, a great researcher?

The guy does 10 hours per week a show.If he such a lousy researcher, then it would be become obvious very quick don't you think?The only big differnce between you and him is concerning religion.

QuoteWow, it doesn't take much to win you over, does it?

Unlike you, i'm willing to listen to anybody who's reasonable.You trow him in the trash cause he's an atheist and critisises religion, but you do the same with atheists.Correct me if i'm wrong, but you've claimed that atheists claim that ''creation comes from nothing'' or words to that effect.Atheism is the lack of belief in a''god'' or ''gods''.Just that.Claiming to know everything is the religious department.

QuoteI wouldn't fuss over spooks and shills.

I wouldn't either  ;) ,but if being atheistic means being on someone's payroll, then someone's owes me a lot of money. :) But seriously, Tim i respect you but you are coming up with heavy accusations without anything remotely solid to back them up.

GordZilla

Nope that was me that said that "something comes from nothing" comment,  but that was in response to one atheist  on this site in particular. I don't have a problem with most atheists, the only ones that I do have issue with are the ones that are over-the-top aggressive against the faithful. 'Believe what you want to' is my motto on that front.  I do believe, however, that a people lacking in any faith provide good nesting grounds for the Jew -they do hate Jesus for a reason. However I'm not so biased in my faith that I can't see that  Judeo-Christians are also very good hosts for the Jews. (Judeo-Christians have forgot what the 'Christ' bit in their label means)

As per Yeager, I too find her incredibly abrasive ..it's a shame, for she is a good researcher, but her on-air personality could use some work in the etiquette department.

CrackSmokeRepublican

They are both fighting for the "soul" of America.... I like both shows and hope they both continue.  I think anyone that can call themselves as a "German American" feels a complete and total revulsion at the "Holohoax" propaganda leveled at "all Germans".  The "Hitler was a Jew-Zionist-Dupe of Jews" seems to perpetuate this "Fantasy" and is only a further insult.  Germans will kick "Lying-Bankrupt" Jew ass in Germany or America under the right direction.... IMHO...--CSR
After the Revolution of 1905, the Czar had prudently prepared for further outbreaks by transferring some $400 million in cash to the New York banks, Chase, National City, Guaranty Trust, J.P.Morgan Co., and Hanover Trust. In 1914, these same banks bought the controlling number of shares in the newly organized Federal Reserve Bank of New York, paying for the stock with the Czar\'s sequestered funds. In November 1917,  Red Guards drove a truck to the Imperial Bank and removed the Romanoff gold and jewels. The gold was later shipped directly to Kuhn, Loeb Co. in New York.-- Curse of Canaan

Anonymous

Caroline is very passionate about her work and she obviously gets annoyed with people who just want to go in the middle of the road (ie he wasn't that bad but no saint either).

You are taught that the jews are the most honest and lovely people on earth, they are god's chosen people, the opposite is true.

You are taught that Arabs committed 911 when it infact they are the greatest victims of the follow through of that.

6 million jews were gassed and were the greatest victims of WW2, the opposite is true.

Jews tell you that Hitler was the most evil man in history, using the same logic as above, he would be a saint, is that so hard to believe? it is just another one of their complete 360 degree lies.

I don't mind seeing abit of mud slinging, it can end up being positive as it can draw more people to the issue and it also good for PR and brings attention to yourself, I think this will end up being positive, it will be good for Yeagers show as more of Truth Hertz listeners might check her show out. If I was going to start a radio show, I would first start out slinging shit everywhere and at everyone to draw attention to myself and after I get an audience I would get serious and make amend. That is what subverted nation tried to do but it backfired on them somewhat.

I listened to her last program, the new 2 hour format is very good.

-Pas-

Gordzilla wrote:

QuoteNope that was me that said that "something comes from nothing" comment

Yeah, sorry i remember it and it was Tim who was in agreement with that statement.My bad  :oops: .I didn't mean to drag on the religion debate, i only wanted to support the position of fellow atheistic anti-judeics and not the majority of atheists since they love jews so much it's a religion in itself.

QuoteAs per Yeager, I too find her incredibly abrasive

I agree and i do believe her intentions are righteous.

Bluejelly wrote:

QuoteI don't mind seeing abit of mud slinging, it can end up being positive as it can draw more people to the issue and it also good for PR and brings attention to yourself, I think this will end up being positive, it will be good for Yeagers show as more of Truth Hertz listeners might check her show out. If I was going to start a radio show, I would first start out slinging shit everywhere and at everyone to draw attention to myself and after I get an audience I would get serious and make amend. That is what subverted nation tried to do but it backfired on them somewhat.

Interesting strategy, i haven't thought about it like that.What's the deal with SN and A. Austin now?I haven't heard from him in a while.

Timothy_Fitzpatrick

Quote from: "-Pas-"Timothy_Fitzpatrick wrote:

QuoteCharlies Giuliani, a great researcher?

The guy does 10 hours per week a show.If he such a lousy researcher, then it would be become obvious very quick don't you think?The only big differnce between you and him is concerning religion.

QuoteWow, it doesn't take much to win you over, does it?

Unlike you, i'm willing to listen to anybody who's reasonable.You trow him in the trash cause he's an atheist and critisises religion, but you do the same with atheists.Correct me if i'm wrong, but you've claimed that atheists claim that ''creation comes from nothing'' or words to that effect.Atheism is the lack of belief in a''god'' or ''gods''.Just that.Claiming to know everything is the religious department.

QuoteI wouldn't fuss over spooks and shills.

I wouldn't either  ;) ,but if being atheistic means being on someone's payroll, then someone's owes me a lot of money. :) But seriously, Tim i respect you but you are coming up with heavy accusations without anything remotely solid to back them up.

Unlike me? I did listen to this fruitcake. He brings nothing new to the table, except rehashed info, not unlike what Alex Jones does. For crying out loud, we have enough Alex Jones. People like him are saturating the field.

More importantly, anti-religionism is the MO of the NWO. You should know that by now. How long have you been in the movement? Fine if you want to be an atheist, but it's quite another thing to go out of your way to rip all things spiritual out of the hearts of the naive and gullible. That is a disservice to humanity....and to God, if you believe in Him. But Guliani does much more than that. He states outright falsehoods about the Bible and, as I have pointed out several times before, relies heavily on strawman arguments. Even Alex Jones doesn't do that.

Furthermore, I see no reason to trust a so-called truth teller who hasn't so much as shown his face on video...in this day and age of easily-makeable videos. Merely posting a photo of him ain't going to cut it. He doesn't sound anything like a WASP. And I'm not just talking about his Jew Yorkian accent. WASPs have distinctive speech patterns, intonation, and colour. Quite frankly, Guliani sounds Jewish. Bottom line is, he needs to show his face on video. What is he afraid of?

I may not have proof that Guliani is a Jew agent, but Guliani hasn't proof that he is trustworthy. He is a shady character at best.

Gordzilla said:

QuoteI don't have a problem with most atheists, the only ones that I do have issue with are the ones that are over-the-top aggressive against the faithful. 'Believe what you want to' is my motto on that front.

Guliani is exactly one of these over-the-top "atheists." He sticks out like a soar thumb. It seems the patriot business is just a vehicle by which he can execute his cointelpro, not unlike his superior Alex Jones. But in the end, Guliani is a nobody, Alex is a somebody.

Another thing: "Truth Hertz" a play on words? Indeed, but notice the spelling of hurts. Tz is a common ending to Jewish names and words. Coincidence?
Fitzpatrick Informer:

-Pas-

Timothy_Fitzpatrick wrote:

QuoteI did listen to this fruitcake. He brings nothing new to the table, except rehashed info, not unlike what Alex Jones does.

Equating Jones to Giulinani shows that you haven't been listening to ''fruitcake'' very closely cause he exposes AJ and his tactics all the time let alone adressing the one and only real problem: the jew.

QuoteMore importantly, anti-religionism is the MO of the NWO.

Their M.O. is to cause strife between groups and religion and anti-religionism are both used by them to further their cause.

QuoteYou should know that by now. How long have you been in the movement?

I admit i know very little, i consider myself a ''new-bee''.

QuoteFine if you want to be an atheist

I never ''wanted'' to be one, it's just the result of my life's experiences.

Quoteit's quite another thing to go out of your way to rip all things spiritual out of the hearts of the naive and gullible

Well, he doesn't do that and he admits to being spiritual himself (unlike myself) but to call believers ''naive and gullible'' you've just pointed out the problems of religionists.

QuoteBut Guliani does much more than that. He states outright falsehoods about the Bible.

Like?

QuoteFurthermore, I see no reason to trust a so-called truth teller who hasn't so much as shown his face on video...in this day and age of easily-makeable videos. Merely posting a photo of him ain't going to cut it

We've been over this before.Speaking of strawman arguements...

QuoteHe doesn't sound anything like a WASP

He was a WASP, now he's only a WAS  :) ,but i don't see the big importance of that.

QuoteWASPs have distinctive speech patterns, intonation, and colour

I don''t understand where you're heading with this?

QuoteBottom line is, he needs to show his face on video. What is he afraid of?

He's picking a fight with the biggest gangsters on the planet, if there's fear involved i can fully understand that.Again, i see no ''red flag'' and i am on the lookout.

QuoteGuliani hasn't proof that he is trustworthy.

He proves it every working day, as far as one can prove himself, by naming the root of the world's problems and informing the public of all sorts of important information but you ignore this because you feel offended by his opinion on your religion.Why can't you rise above this and make use of the rest of the material he researches, and if he is what you think he is, you should be able to expose him very fast.

QuoteGuliani is exactly one of these over-the-top "atheists." He sticks out like a soar thumb. It seems the patriot business is just a vehicle by which he can execute his cointelpro

Can you name the other atheists who's single biggest problem is judaism?

Quotenot unlike his superior Alex Jones. But in the end, Guliani is a nobody, Alex is a somebody

So you will put a proven liar above someone who is truthfull, only because the fat liar believes in God.I find this wrong and it's a big problem for the religious community; that is:basing judgement on appearance of faith instead of actions.

QuoteAnother thing: "Truth Hertz" a play on words? Indeed, but notice the spelling of hurts. Tz is a common ending to Jewish names and words. Coincidence?

You're kidding, right? :) According to your logic that would mean you have a half jewish last name yourself :lol: .All sillyness aside, don't you see the slightest possibility he meant ''hertz'' as in megahertz since it's on radio.You really believe there's a third deeper jewish meaning to this?

CrackSmokeRepublican

Charles Giuliani actually had a pretty great guest on yesterday, Veronica Clark...

http://mp3.oraclebroadcasting.com/Truth ... 14_16k.mp3
After the Revolution of 1905, the Czar had prudently prepared for further outbreaks by transferring some $400 million in cash to the New York banks, Chase, National City, Guaranty Trust, J.P.Morgan Co., and Hanover Trust. In 1914, these same banks bought the controlling number of shares in the newly organized Federal Reserve Bank of New York, paying for the stock with the Czar\'s sequestered funds. In November 1917,  Red Guards drove a truck to the Imperial Bank and removed the Romanoff gold and jewels. The gold was later shipped directly to Kuhn, Loeb Co. in New York.-- Curse of Canaan

Anti-Zionist League

Charlie Giuliania has been a co-host of the Anti-ZIonist League. I'm reading through comments here, and want to submit a few clarifications.

1) Charles is not an atheist.

2) With a name like Giuliani, who is asking whether Charles is a "WASP" to begin with? Perhaps only one (or some) who aren't that familiar with US demographics. Charlie does not have a New York accent. He has a Mass (typically "Boston") accent, because that is where he has lived his whole life.

3) Not only does Charles acknowledge some mysterious creative Being behind life, but he is a biblical scholar. Even now, after shedding the God of the Old Testament, Charles realizes the impossibility of everything coming from "nothing". That being said, however, there's no way that the tribal god of Jewish race supremacists is ever going win back Charle's mind (logic) and heart (spiritual perception). It is hard enough to conceive of a God who is both "all powerful" and "all loving", while still allowing history to proceed as it does. Beyond that, it is simply impossible to equate him with the "God of the Hebrews." No "higher design" has ever proven worth "such a deal" with these supremacist devils. Charles is among many who now see through the ruse that, somehow, the Torah differs greatly from the filthy Talmud, both in terms of its' race supremacism AND its depiction of a schizophrenic, psychopathic godhead.

4) Let's be clear. Folks are trying to call in and put a "matronly" spin on Hitlerism. The Truth Hertz project is both aware and wary of this tack. There is far more to scrutinize in the message that these matrons are seeking to implant. It will be scrutinized in time. In the meantime, one of the more ambitious assumptions being expressed is that, somehow, (German-Jewish author of 'Bevor Hitler Kam') Bronder's 1960's research into the Jewish background of many top Nazis "should" automatically be dismissed. Those who are hearing that contention may want to first read the ENGLISH translation (available online) for "Bevor Hitler Kam". An internet article, "Showdown in Jerusalem" also provides a summary of some of those findings (on top Jew-run banks and top, Nazi leaders who were 1/4, 1/2 or more "Jewish".

We've even got call-ins from Netherlands "intelligencia" -  anonymously -  just after one of that precise description is entered into the ADL's hate crime hall of fame. An alleged author of the "Israel did 9/11" compilations that so many of us have read called in - to paint himself as more pacifistic, and to paint Charles as somehow too "dangerous". And yet, this alleged author (or major contributor?) to the "Israel did 9/11" compiliation somehow neglected to mention one of its' central messages - that if officials investigate the Mossad-tied firm, GUARDIUM, they will get to the bottom of "who did 9/11", once and for all.

 - Anyone researching past entries from The AZL here will see what a nerve that message hit, and will continue to hit, if we "anti-ZIonists" can assemble a few activists to reach out with that GUARDIUM message to honest law and gov't officials. We report a stalking incident, by Michael S. Goff, who has ties to both GUARDIUM and PTech. An AZL journalist would be willing, upon confirmation in a court of law, to identify Goff as one who stalked him just after The AZL's 2009 interview (from Goff's home town...Worcester MA ...with Giuliani as co=host) with Bollyn, concerning the Goff evidence.  

To be honest: it is NOT that hard to sidetrack a host who has diverse interests and loves conversation. Campaigns have been made to ingratiate Giuliani in the past, and they continue. Most know what the enemy would find that necessary: because Charles never fails to name the Jewish criminal and (increasingly) JUDAISMly, as the world's number one problem.  

Over all, this tactic fails. In terms of this recent wave of Hitler apologists - they're repeating themselves, and pulling too many online stunts to pass as "regular" guests. They are NOT seen as such, and there's discussion and prep behind the scenes to take care of this little trend. Yet, Charlie has already made the central point plain. There is no way that this Hitler question is going to become prominent in his message. Giuliani's message is going to stand on its' own...is incisive as it is "dangerous"...and it will persist, with or without these Hitlerite matrons gracing his air time. (Always with some anomaly..either the bitchiest guest, or the one with the most frequent and freaky call-ins, or the one with the most unlikely of scholarly degrees... "military history", etc). The apologetics are repetitive, standing as they are on thin ice, and depend only on a few vaguaries in their delivery.

(Oh yeah, the Nazis made way for Israel, but then again, they were just trying to find a solution the whole world was begging for...NOPE. It's been disastrous solution...the perfect non-solution and conclusion. Exactly the result you'd expect in a problem-reaction-solution dialectic).

Timothy_Fitzpatrick

Pas said:
QuoteWell, he doesn't do that and he admits to being spiritual himself (unlike myself) but to call believers ''naive and gullible'' you've just pointed out the problems of religionists.

I wasn't calling all religionists gullible, just the ones that would actually take the time to listen to cointelpro like Jewliani.
Fitzpatrick Informer:

Timothy_Fitzpatrick

Fitzpatrick Informer:

-Pas-

The AZL wrote:

QuoteEven now, after shedding the God of the Old Testament

Indeed, but not so long ago he also did an expose of the problems of the N.T.

Quote4) Let's be clear. Folks are trying to call in and put a "matronly" spin on Hitlerism. The Truth Hertz project is both aware and wary of this tack.  

Recently he had two good guests on (Yeager and Clark) who did make a good case for the ''pro-Hitler/nazi'' side of the story and Mrs. Clarke had some interesting debunking information on the famous Kardel book: Adolf Hitler the founder of israel.The jury is still out on this, for me.
Thanks for sharing your points of view.

CSR wrote:

QuoteCharles Giuliani actually had a pretty great guest on yesterday, Veronica Clark...

http://mp3.oraclebroadcasting.com/Truth ... 14_16k.mp3

My thoughts exactly.I heard her before on Spingola's show on a book she wrote:''Black Nazi's'' and ''War wolves of the iron cross'' and another show where they discussed the financing of Hitler.Very, very interesting stuff imo.

The interviews i mentioned are on this list:
http://thethirdcraft.org/Audio/

Her Youtube account is:

http://www.youtube.com/user/VeraIcona100

Anonymous

Anyone know how old  Guliani is and what he does for a living?  He doesn't appear to work.

ZS

Timothy_Fitzpatrick

Quoteby ditto » Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:05 pm

Sheeeyit.

Vera-I-Conahhhhhhhh!!! Arrrgh. Arrrgggggghhh. Oooooowwww. Arrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggh !!! !!! !!! !!!

Sheeeyit.

I've said it before - the babes in the movement be going hard! Fuck these fucking men, I can't even fucking stomach listening to any at the fucking moment and I be a fucking male myself.

And the list goes on...

Carolyn. Sheeet. Fuck Condit, I'd go "toe to toe" with her. Sheeeyit. I'd battle this Aryan Goddess till the muhfucking death of me. Sheeeyit.
Deanna. Sheeet. Ditto. Spingola Speaks. Sheeeyit. I'd tell her how I feel. Sheeeeeeeyit.
Renouf. Sheeet. Ditto.

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyiiiiiiiiit.

Would you mind translating this into English for us?

Quote from: "Zionist Sniper"by Zionist Sniper » Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:15 am

Anyone know how old Guliani is and what he does for a living? He doesn't appear to work.

ZS

Yeah, works for a company called La Mossada, based in Tel Aviv, I believe. Not sure of age.
Fitzpatrick Informer:

Whaler

Quote from: "ditto"Sheeeyit.

Vera-I-Conahhhhhhhh!!! Arrrgh. Arrrgggggghhh. Oooooowwww. Arrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggh !!! !!! !!! !!!

Sheeeyit.

I've said it before - the babes in the movement be going hard! Fuck these fucking men, I can't even fucking stomach listening to any at the fucking moment and I be a fucking male myself.

And the list goes on...

Carolyn. Sheeet. Fuck Condit, I'd go "toe to toe" with her. Sheeeyit. I'd battle this Aryan Goddess till the muhfucking death of me. Sheeeyit.
Deanna. Sheeet. Ditto. Spingola Speaks. Sheeeyit. I'd tell her how I feel. Sheeeeeeeyit.
Renouf. Sheeet. Ditto.

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyiiiiiiiiit.

It's the former TIU member known as "Under the Sun" again ^^^ LOL.  :lol:

This guy is relentless.



[youtube:21m35t4o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNaUdVMVOqE[/youtube]21m35t4o]

ditto

QuoteIt's the former TIU member known as "Under the Sun" again ^^^ LOL. :lol:

This guy is relentless.

My posts are weird, but my message in this post is that the men in the f***ing movement be pussies following personalities while these gals just keep on hitting fools with the facts!

Sheeeyit. <Baaa>

Whaler

Quote from: "ditto"
QuoteIt's the former TIU member known as "Under the Sun" again ^^^ LOL. :lol:

This guy is relentless.

My posts are weird, but my message in this post is that the men in the f***ing movement be pussies following personalities while these gals just keep on hitting fools with the facts!

Sheeeyit. <Baaa>

I agree. Good point.

Timothy_Fitzpatrick

Ditto, exactly. When they realized Alex Jones was a shill, they simply moved on to the next ticking time bomb.
Fitzpatrick Informer:

Anti-Zionist League

The same folks who've lacked the discernment to reject movement poisoners are here, seeking to distort or discredit a genuine voice in this movement - Charles Giuliani.

Both "Pas" and "Timothy Fitzpatrick" have endorsed two poisoners, who even Ognir (Ryan) admitted to be as such, when Ryan conceded in interview with Khanverse that "The Anti-Zionist League" had warned this movement accurately, and called it right, regarding 2 ADL-inspiring characters - namely, "John of Satan" (JAM) and "Cointel-Prothink" (Delaney).

By endorsing Delaney and Martinsen, "Pas" and "Timothy" have shown themselves, beyond endorsement of Hitler apologists, to be endorsing Satanist-apologists (Martinsen), White Supremacists (Delaney, who follows British-Israeler, James Wickstom - a racist shill who blamed Haiti's earthquake on Haiti's black voodoo practicioners)  and actual Nazis (both Martinsen and Delaney).

Therefore, how much weight can either Pas or Fitzpatrick carry when they come attacking Giuliani (whom Fitzpatrick is calling a "Jew", a "Wasp" and "Mossad"?) or endorsing the Hitlerites seeking so hard to "Nazi-fy" Giuliani's message?  

Of John Martinsen's new project, Pas has said (on recent ADL vs Delaney thread at viewtopic.php?f=4&t=15100 :
"...Obviously i wasn't aware at the time it was a JAM project. But i like it and i hope he gets support."

Of Nazi's Delany and Martinsen (who is a Satanist-Apologist to boot), TIU's "VIP" - and ostensibly pious Christian - Timothy Fitzpatrick, says:
  "JAM and Delaney should be allowed back on TIU, that is if they want to post here. Anyone with me?"

Let's re-emphasize: Even Ognir acknowledged (in 2008/9 interview with Khanverse, 31 minutes in) that The Anti-Zionist League's warnings ended up being right on, concerning Delaney and the John-Prothink set-up. This, of course, did not prevent Ognir from doing more than anyone, in 2008, to pitch Delaney and John as spokesmen, previously (and despite already having already received The AZL's evidence-based warnings, beforehand).  

To silence the AZL, Delaney even tried to claim that The AZL's WW2 Vet Anthony Hmura, or his page, had been "hijacked" by Jews, who are "getting nervous". Well...how nervous?

All of the following "AZL" exposes concerning JAM and Prothink belong on this thread, as much as on the Delaney-ADL thread, in so much as they are a clear  corrective to the two loudest voices, not only only praising Delaney and JAM, but here, on this thread, accusing Giuliani of bineg "Mossad", "Jew", a "shill", etc, or endorsing those now seeking to Nazi-fy Giuliani's message. It's all about names and numbers for the ADL and the Zio police state. As Giuliani's show/message goes (over to "white supremacist, Christian Identity pastors" ... or Hitlerites ... of provocateurs at American Free Press), so go his listeners onto the LISTS. All the easier to catagorize them for the future round up. Well...fighting the good fight means to AVOID such traps; especially for the sake of listeners. Be merciless in delivering the truth on Zionist-Jewish crime, while avoiding the set ups of that very cabal.  

HERE ARE THE AZL's 2008/2009 EXPOSES concerning both "JOHN of SATAN" and "Cointel-Prothink" - the ones that OGNIR himself conceded to be ACCURATE, in his 2008/2009 interview with Khanverse (31 minutes in). Check them out at www TheAZL com, which is also called AnthonyHmura.com. And for anyone who'd like to attack our efforts in this movement, start by out-doing our actions. If you can forward the GUARDIUM message (say, with a website devoted to anti-Zionist ACTIVISTS, with a focus ON that GUARDIUM message), then no problem: say and make what you want (bad or good) of our past efforts to spark that very trend.  What's more, we sincerely hope you future anti-Guardium webmasters and activist-networkers will NOT face the same heat that we did (see first articles at TheAZL.com), for calling for an investigation of GUARDIUM. As a result, 88 yr old WW2 Vet Hmura and fellow AZL journalists faced assault and death threats by Zionist agents (see police reports, one even claiming to be a Mossad Killer). An AZL jOurnalist will even testify, upon confirmation in a court of law, that he was stalked by Michael Goff (with ties to 2 Mossad-backed firms,  PTech and GUARDIUM... see "Isreal did 9/11" all over internet for Goff, PTech, Guardium info....and then consider USING our risks, and the backlash we endured as SUPPORTING evidence, in your own activist-outreach, calling for a GUARDIUM investigation, to get to the bottom of 9/11).  

Some of the AZL's 2008/9 exposes regarding the JAM-Prothink set up (an ADL set-up, exactly):

 * Special-Ops Satanists run Pedophile-Blackmail Rings, recruiting Nazi-Skinheads, Metalheads as Dupes for World Zionism.
 http://anthonyhmura.blogspot.com/2008/0 ... heads.html

 * Treason from Within the Anti-Zionist Movement - On the JAM-Prothink Set Up
 http://anthonyhmura.blogspot.com/2008/0 ... onist.html
Many articles at the above link, on JAM, Prothink and even Ognir's endosement of both, followed by Og's retraction and acknowledgment of The AZL's accurate warning, in 2008.


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Lastly, why is "Ditto" mocking blacks, on this thread, while in the same breathe, conveying some feminist message? That racial mockery is far more defeating and distracting than statements from either Fitzpatrick, Pas OR The Anti-Zionist League. And what is the trojan horse message there? That Hitler-apologetics are to be seen as more valid, and factual, because they're being conveyed on Giuliani's show by "wise women" instead of (what?) stupid, aggressive men? This is precisely the "psyop" as we've described it; as a string of Hitlerite Matrons, trying to make Nazism appear safe and sound. Just in time for the ADL (and it's mouthpieces... some recently called out BY that ADL, as part of a pre-planned Psyop that The AZL predicted in 2008) and survaillance state to pull a listmaking operation on Giuliani's listeners, etc. That is how it works. That is also how it worked when, back in 2008, Ognir and Smith endorsed the Delaney-Prothink set up. Ognir expressed regrets, and acknowledged that the AZL had called that PSYOP rightly, ....
 * As a corrective, then, to ALL the racist poisoners in this movement (almost always plants), here is the AZL's tailor-made expose (replete with quotes and set-ups from Zio-plants at American Free Press):
http://anthonyhmura.blogspot.com/2010/1 ... ooker.html


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So where is the consistency, now, in hearing a chorus of JAM-Prothink endorsements from VIPs and webmasters at TIU. Yet, that is what we hear. Delaney is this webmaster's "Friend" now. No consistency. Rather, it feeds into the same old set up. A very well synchronized, ADL-friendly set up... just as we predicted back in 2008 (and as Og acknowledged, so what gives? We know what gives, with ALL such ex-patriot webmasters, far off from their beseiged native lands - Ireland, the U.S. ...nested in France, Switzerland, Netherlands.. while claiming to be staunch anti-Zionist spokesmen).

We have come to know who's who in this movement by one very straightforward method: by offering them the shirt off our backs, and then seeing whether their willing to cover our backs in return. They didn't  - even as an 88 year old WW2 Vet and fellow journalist are assaulted, threatened with death by ZIonist agents (an alleged "Mossad killer"), and as a suspected TOP 9/11 TERRORIST (Michael S. Goff) stalks an AZL journalist, and as Jewish Grave-topplings and Nazi Graffiti crop up, all surrounding our 2009/10 efforts to expose that same suspect, Michael Goff, from his own home town (Worcester MA) where the AZL is based.
It doesn't take a V2 rocket scientist (nore any far-out, Nazi saucer conspiratologist) to guess what our conclusion is, concering ALL these ADL-friendly Hitlerite set ups, and the webmasters who've pitched them, then, does it? No. Our conclusion is JUST as we'd predicted - well ahead of time, in 2008, concerning all these ADL-friendly (poster boy) "Racist, Hitlerite" provocateurs. Just peruse the AZL's many John-Prothink articles at the above links, to confirm what even Ognir acknowledged - that back then, we hit the nail on the head concerning Delaney and Company. (All links, minus the article on "Why John-Prothink aren't getting nervous". In that article, we had one problem: we inserted some kind of Christian forgiveness towards these ADL tools. Nowadays, we do no such thing! We now see even that ethic, as a Jewish ruse).  

Yet, with Fitzpatrick still presenting a "traditionalist" image, will he not be compelled to "forgiveness" towards us, nay, even "edification", as we cite his inconsistencies and untruths, regarding not just Giuliani, but the race-supremacists and Nazi-provocateurs that Fitzpatrick (like Pas) has just endorsed? (John, Prothink, and of course, this string of matronly Hitlerites attempting a "visitation" at Truth Hertz? Are they any more valid or sincere in their assertions than Pelosi and two other Judaic congresswomen were, when witnessing Gabrielle Giffords' "recovery miracle", during their hospital "visitation"?)


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UNUSUAL CALL-INS to GIULIANI during past weeks of Hitlerite interviews, and the ADL's new focus on Delaney and the U.S. "ex-patriot" in Netherlands:

- Did a certain Netherlands hero (another US "ex-patriot") call in, (fresh after becoming the ADL's new, hate crime poster boy?) just to insinuate that he is downright pacifistic, in comparison to Giuliani, who he insinuates is speaking too dangerously, off the handle, and needs to get a grip? How ADL friendly was that call-in? Was this the same ex-patriot, appearing as guest with Giuliani, just before the Hitlerites - presenting the "Isreal did 9/11" evidence without including the message that an investigation of GUARDIUM would get to the bottom of 9/11?

How about the ones who called, just after this suspect (the heroic ex-patriot and ADL poster boy?), slipping in a message to Giuliani that, for all their whining about a fake holocaust, we need to give the "Jews" a real Holocaust? Think THAT is not going to be used by the listmakers against Giuliani's listeners? Suppose that was not a paid provocateur, any more than the many freaky call-ins during Giuliani's interview with Spingola (numbering more than any previous show, according to Giulliani, with the last, quietest one being the most poisonous: a guy suggesting during the last 2 of thse three Hitlerite shows, that Giuliani "extend an olive branch" to Yeager, and make up for HIS error, misjudgment towards her message and delivery).
   

www TheAZL com
www AnthonyHmura com

Note: Charles Giuliani is also co-host at The AZL Roundtable (The AZL's podcast at http:azlroundtable.podbean.com)
Website for his Truth Hertz program is "Oracle Broadcasting" - which is itself run by big-time, Judeo-Freemasons, associated with Joseph Farrell and David Childress (aka Chibango, hence the name of Oracle's chatroom: Chitango), of "Adventures Unlimited". It is no easy task keeping clear of the vipers. But thus far we have done it, while Charles, time after time, strives to keep up his end of the bargain. He "gives the benefit of the doubt", until that becomes impossible. Believes until he can believe no more. WHen that happens: look out. Wouldn't want to be caught on the bad end of a Giuliani expose, guys.

 :fun:

Anti-Zionist League

The same folks who've lacked the discernment to reject movement poisoners are here, seeking to distort or discredit a genuine voice in this movement - Charles Giuliani.

Both "Pas" and "Timothy Fitzpatrick" have endorsed two poisoners, who even Ognir (Ryan) admitted to be as such, when Ryan conceded in interview with Khanverse that "The Anti-Zionist League" had warned this movement accurately, and called it right, regarding 2 ADL-inspiring characters - namely, "John of Satan" (JAM) and "Cointel-Prothink" (Delaney).

By endorsing Delaney and Martinsen, "Pas" and "Timothy" have shown themselves, beyond endorsement of Hitler apologists, to be endorsing Satanist-apologists (Martinsen), White Supremacists (Delaney, who follows British-Israeler, James Wickstom - a racist shill who blamed Haiti's earthquake on Haiti's black voodoo practicioners)  and actual Nazis (both Martinsen and Delaney).

Therefore, how much weight can either Pas or Fitzpatrick carry when they come attacking Giuliani (whom Fitzpatrick is calling a "Jew", a "Wasp" and "Mossad"?) or endorsing the Hitlerites seeking so hard to "Nazi-fy" Giuliani's message?  

Of John Martinsen's new project, Pas has said (on recent ADL vs Delaney thread at viewtopic.php?f=4&t=15100 :
"...Obviously i wasn't aware at the time it was a JAM project. But i like it and i hope he gets support."

Of Nazi's Delany and Martinsen (who is a Satanist-Apologist to boot), TIU's "VIP" - and ostensibly pious Christian - Timothy Fitzpatrick, says:
  "JAM and Delaney should be allowed back on TIU, that is if they want to post here. Anyone with me?"

Let's re-emphasize: Even Ognir acknowledged (in 2008/9 interview with Khanverse, 31 minutes in) that The Anti-Zionist League's warnings ended up being right on, concerning Delaney and the John-Prothink set-up. This, of course, did not prevent Ognir from doing more than anyone, in 2008, to pitch Delaney and John as spokesmen, previously (and despite already having already received The AZL's evidence-based warnings, beforehand).  

To silence the AZL, Delaney even tried to claim that The AZL's WW2 Vet Anthony Hmura, or his page, had been "hijacked" by Jews, who are "getting nervous". Well...how nervous?

All of the following "AZL" exposes concerning JAM and Prothink belong on this thread, as much as on the Delaney-ADL thread, in so much as they are a clear  corrective to the two loudest voices, not only only praising Delaney and JAM, but here, on this thread, accusing Giuliani of bineg "Mossad", "Jew", a "shill", etc, or endorsing those now seeking to Nazi-fy Giuliani's message. It's all about names and numbers for the ADL and the Zio police state. As Giuliani's show/message goes (over to "white supremacist, Christian Identity pastors" ... or Hitlerites ... of provocateurs at American Free Press), so go his listeners onto the LISTS. All the easier to catagorize them for the future round up. Well...fighting the good fight means to AVOID such traps; especially for the sake of listeners. Be merciless in delivering the truth on Zionist-Jewish crime, while avoiding the set ups of that very cabal.  

HERE ARE THE AZL's 2008/2009 EXPOSES concerning both "JOHN of SATAN" and "Cointel-Prothink" - the ones that OGNIR himself conceded to be ACCURATE, in his 2008/2009 interview with Khanverse (31 minutes in). Check them out at www TheAZL com, which is also called AnthonyHmura.com. And for anyone who'd like to attack our efforts in this movement, start by out-doing our actions. If you can forward the GUARDIUM message (say, with a website devoted to anti-Zionist ACTIVISTS, with a focus ON that GUARDIUM message), then no problem: say and make what you want (bad or good) of our past efforts to spark that very trend.  What's more, we sincerely hope you future anti-Guardium webmasters and activist-networkers will NOT face the same heat that we did (see first articles at TheAZL.com), for calling for an investigation of GUARDIUM. As a result, 88 yr old WW2 Vet Hmura and fellow AZL journalists faced assault and death threats by Zionist agents (see police reports, one even claiming to be a Mossad Killer). An AZL jOurnalist will even testify, upon confirmation in a court of law, that he was stalked by Michael Goff (with ties to 2 Mossad-backed firms,  PTech and GUARDIUM... see "Isreal did 9/11" all over internet for Goff, PTech, Guardium info....and then consider USING our risks, and the backlash we endured as SUPPORTING evidence, in your own activist-outreach, calling for a GUARDIUM investigation, to get to the bottom of 9/11).  

Some of the AZL's 2008/9 exposes regarding the JAM-Prothink set up (an ADL set-up, exactly):

 * Special-Ops Satanists run Pedophile-Blackmail Rings, recruiting Nazi-Skinheads, Metalheads as Dupes for World Zionism.
 http://anthonyhmura.blogspot.com/2008/0 ... heads.html

 * Treason from Within the Anti-Zionist Movement - On the JAM-Prothink Set Up
 http://anthonyhmura.blogspot.com/2008/0 ... onist.html
Many articles at the above link, on JAM, Prothink and even Ognir's endosement of both, followed by Og's retraction and acknowledgment of The AZL's accurate warning, in 2008.


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Lastly, why is "Ditto" mocking blacks, on this thread, while in the same breathe, conveying some feminist message? That racial mockery is far more defeating and distracting than statements from either Fitzpatrick, Pas OR The Anti-Zionist League. And what is the trojan horse message there? That Hitler-apologetics are to be seen as more valid, and factual, because they're being conveyed on Giuliani's show by "wise women" instead of (what?) stupid, aggressive men? This is precisely the "psyop" as we've described it; as a string of Hitlerite Matrons, trying to make Nazism appear safe and sound. Just in time for the ADL (and it's mouthpieces... some recently called out BY that ADL, as part of a pre-planned Psyop that The AZL predicted in 2008) and survaillance state to pull a listmaking operation on Giuliani's listeners, etc. That is how it works. That is also how it worked when, back in 2008, Ognir and Smith endorsed the Delaney-Prothink set up. Ognir expressed regrets, and acknowledged that the AZL had called that PSYOP rightly, ....
 * As a corrective, then, to ALL the racist poisoners in this movement (almost always plants), here is the AZL's tailor-made expose (replete with quotes and set-ups from Zio-plants at American Free Press):
http://anthonyhmura.blogspot.com/2010/1 ... ooker.html


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So where is the consistency, now, in hearing a chorus of JAM-Prothink endorsements from VIPs and webmasters at TIU. Yet, that is what we hear. Delaney is this webmaster's "Friend" now. No consistency. Rather, it feeds into the same old set up. A very well synchronized, ADL-friendly set up... just as we predicted back in 2008 (and as Og acknowledged, so what gives? We know what gives, with ALL such ex-patriot webmasters, far off from their beseiged native lands - Ireland, the U.S. ...nested in France, Switzerland, Netherlands.. while claiming to be staunch anti-Zionist spokesmen).

We have come to know who's who in this movement by one very straightforward method: by offering them the shirt off our backs, and then seeing whether their willing to cover our backs in return. They didn't  - even as an 88 year old WW2 Vet and fellow journalist are assaulted, threatened with death by ZIonist agents (an alleged "Mossad killer"), and as a suspected TOP 9/11 TERRORIST (Michael S. Goff) stalks an AZL journalist, and as Jewish Grave-topplings and Nazi Graffiti crop up, all surrounding our 2009/10 efforts to expose that same suspect, Michael Goff, from his own home town (Worcester MA) where the AZL is based.
It doesn't take a V2 rocket scientist (nore any far-out, Nazi saucer conspiratologist) to guess what our conclusion is, concering ALL these ADL-friendly Hitlerite set ups, and the webmasters who've pitched them, then, does it? No. Our conclusion is JUST as we'd predicted - well ahead of time, in 2008, concerning all these ADL-friendly (poster boy) "Racist, Hitlerite" provocateurs. Just peruse the AZL's many John-Prothink articles at the above links, to confirm what even Ognir acknowledged - that back then, we hit the nail on the head concerning Delaney and Company. (All links, minus the article on "Why John-Prothink aren't getting nervous". In that article, we had one problem: we inserted some kind of Christian forgiveness towards these ADL tools. Nowadays, we do no such thing! We now see even that ethic, as a Jewish ruse).  

Yet, with Fitzpatrick still presenting a "traditionalist" image, will he not be compelled to "forgiveness" towards us, nay, even "edification", as we cite his inconsistencies and untruths, regarding not just Giuliani, but the race-supremacists and Nazi-provocateurs that Fitzpatrick (like Pas) has just endorsed? (John, Prothink, and of course, this string of matronly Hitlerites attempting a "visitation" at Truth Hertz? Are they any more valid or sincere in their assertions than Pelosi and two other Judaic congresswomen were, when witnessing Gabrielle Giffords' "recovery miracle", during their hospital "visitation"?)


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UNUSUAL CALL-INS to GIULIANI during past weeks of Hitlerite interviews, and the ADL's new focus on Delaney and the U.S. "ex-patriot" in Netherlands:

- Did a certain Netherlands hero (another US "ex-patriot") call in, (fresh after becoming the ADL's new, hate crime poster boy?) just to insinuate that he is downright pacifistic, in comparison to Giuliani, who he insinuates is speaking too dangerously, off the handle, and needs to get a grip? How ADL friendly was that call-in? Was this the same ex-patriot, appearing as guest with Giuliani, just before the Hitlerites - presenting the "Isreal did 9/11" evidence without including the message that an investigation of GUARDIUM would get to the bottom of 9/11?

How about the ones who called, just after this suspect (the heroic ex-patriot and ADL poster boy?), slipping in a message to Giuliani that, for all their whining about a fake holocaust, we need to give the "Jews" a real Holocaust? Think THAT is not going to be used by the listmakers against Giuliani's listeners? Suppose that was not a paid provocateur, any more than the many freaky call-ins during Giuliani's interview with Spingola (numbering more than any previous show, according to Giulliani, with the last, quietest one being the most poisonous: a guy suggesting during the last 2 of thse three Hitlerite shows, that Giuliani "extend an olive branch" to Yeager, and make up for HIS error, misjudgment towards her message and delivery).
   

www TheAZL com
www AnthonyHmura com

Note: Charles Giuliani is also co-host at The AZL Roundtable (The AZL's podcast at http:azlroundtable.podbean.com)
Website for his Truth Hertz program is "Oracle Broadcasting" - which is itself run by big-time, Judeo-Freemasons, associated with Joseph Farrell and David Childress (aka Chibango, hence the name of Oracle's chatroom: Chitango), of "Adventures Unlimited". It is no easy task keeping clear of the vipers. But thus far we have done it, while Charles, time after time, strives to keep up his end of the bargain. He "gives the benefit of the doubt", at first, until that becomes impossible. Believes until he can believe no more. When that happens: LOOK OUT. Wouldn't want to be caught on the bad end of a Giuliani expose, guys.

-Pas-

Zionist sniper wrote:

QuoteAnyone know how old Guliani is and what he does for a living? He doesn't appear to work.

ZS

He's around 45-50 and does a daily radio show.He's also an author, so he would have some income selling his books.No reason to be sniped yet imo.

Whaler wrote:

QuoteIt's the former TIU member known as "Under the Sun" again ^^^ LOL.  

This guy is relentless.

Yeah, dude's ''mad niggerish'' but i have to admit he always make me laugh.I'm a little ''ghetto'' myself but don't bring it to the forum.A bit more serious posts would be nice though, Ditto/reeler/UTS.

QuoteMy posts are weird, but my message in this post is that the men in the f***ing movement be pussies following personalities while these gals just keep on hitting fools with the facts!

Sheeeyit.

I agree. Good point.

Me too.

The AZL wrote:

QuoteThe same folks who've lacked the discernment to reject movement poisoners are here, seeking to distort or discredit a genuine voice in this movement - Charles Giuliani.

No, i (Pas) am pro-Giuliani.Timothy_Fitzpatrick doesn't trust him a bit.(i don't want to speak on behalf on someone else, but the description comes close)
And if you say that i ''distort'' Charles message, show me where!

QuoteBoth "Pas" and "Timothy Fitzpatrick" have endorsed two poisoners

Calling people poisoners doesn't impress me, if they're so wrong (religious beliefs aside) , it would be easy for you debunk them.And you haven't.

QuoteBy endorsing Delaney and Martinsen, "Pas" and "Timothy" have shown themselves, beyond endorsement of Hitler apologists, to be endorsing Satanist-apologists (Martinsen), White Supremacists (Delaney, who follows British-Israeler, James Wickstom - a racist shill who blamed Haiti's earthquake on Haiti's black voodoo practicioners) and actual Nazis (both Martinsen and Delaney).

I endorse facts, and Martinson and Delaney have brought many facts to light.Their religious beliefs are a side issue for me.

QuoteTherefore, how much weight can either Pas or Fitzpatrick carry when they come attacking Giuliani (whom Fitzpatrick is calling a "Jew", a "Wasp" and "Mossad"?) or endorsing the Hitlerites seeking so hard to "Nazi-fy" Giuliani's message?

I commend Charles for taking off the blinders and for looking at ALL sides of a story.It has nothing to do with ''nazi-fying'' a message, it's simply looking for the truth honestly.And maybe Tim is a weight lifter but i'm a boxer. :)  ;)

QuoteOf John Martinsen's new project, Pas has said (on recent ADL vs Delaney thread at viewtopic.php?f=4&t=15100 :
"...Obviously i wasn't aware at the time it was a JAM project. But i like it and i hope he gets support."

If i was an American, i'd rather have a anti-judeic king than a homosexual jew loving president.So i'll stick to my statement.

QuoteTIU's "VIP" - and ostensibly pious Christian - Timothy Fitzpatrick

These insults doesn't help you make your case.

QuoteUNUSUAL CALL-INS to GIULIANI during past weeks of Hitlerite interviews, and the ADL's new focus on Delaney and the U.S. "ex-patriot" in Netherlands:

- Did a certain Netherlands hero (another US "ex-patriot") call in, (fresh after becoming the ADL's new, hate crime poster boy?) just to insinuate that he is downright pacifistic, in comparison to Giuliani, who he insinuates is speaking too dangerously, off the handle, and needs to get a grip? How ADL friendly was that call-in? Was this the same ex-patriot, appearing as guest with Giuliani, just before the Hitlerites - presenting the "Isreal did 9/11" evidence without including the message that an investigation of GUARDIUM would get to the bottom of 9/11?

You're talking about "MonkeySeeMonkeyDo/checkitb4uwreckit'' also known as ''zioncrimefactory'', who was on Truth Hertz and who has NOT called Giuliani ''speaking too dangerously, off the handle, and needs to get a grip''.Also he isn't Dutch, I am :) .You're lying, sir.Or provide the info please.

QuoteWas this the same ex-patriot, appearing as guest with Giuliani, just before the Hitlerites - presenting the "Isreal did 9/11" evidence without including the message that an investigation of GUARDIUM would get to the bottom of 9/11?

That young man and true patriot is the man who wrote the ''israel did 911'' article and you want to besmirch him for not including some research you have done?Like the ''Guardium'' evidence is the one and only sound proof of jew involvement in 911.C'mon..

Quotethe heroic ex-patriot and ADL poster boy

You are good with ad homs and insults but you have to do better than that to change the people's mind on this forum about MSMD 's outstanding work.If you read his posts and still think he's an ADL posterboy, it would be an understatement to call you delusional.

Moe Foe

I'd never heard of either so I thought that I familiarise myself a little with them.  I listened to the Giulliani-Yeager interview and to be perfectly honest while I was under-whelmed by Giulliani Yeager did come across as a "bitch" in the interview.

So I thought I'd listen to some more of their shows. I downloaded the most recent TruthHertz show (at the time) and it was a complete waste of my time to be Frank.  The "guest" was one of the shows main sponsors - some kind of miracle herb pill producer and the second one I downloaded was MSMD's / COZ's interview.  This was an excellent interview in my opinion.  MSMD - If you are out there you represented yourself extremely well, I know I wouldn't have the balls to do it so well done!

Then I listened some more to Yeager.  I downloaded a file called "Hitler was a Jew - Debunked" or something to that effect.
I only got maybe 10 mins in before I switched off.

While she does appear to be meticulous with the facts it only seems to be if it suits here agenda.  What all but confirmed this to me was her spurious statement on the OSS pschyiatrist Langer who profiled Hitler.  
(pg 94 & 95 here) http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/h/hit ... 04-01.html

"Langer was probably a Jew because he was in the OSS"

With ridiclous statements like that I didn't feel the rest of her opinions on whether someone else was Jew was worthwhile.

Anonymous

Yeah that guy who Giuliani has on sounds like such a jew scammer. He just talks so much shit and he makes up alot of stories as well. He tries to create the illusion that he has been everywhere. He says rubbish like DNA is in constant flux and even a story that one of his clients went through a scanner at the airport and became sick, she called him and he recommended her to take the system toner which she had on her, after she took it she was well again. Giuliani backs him up on all this shit, says he uses it on his bike rides. He won't tell anyone what is in his stuff.

Yeager is awsome I have no problem with her whatsoever, she deserves peoples support. Giuliani is good but he has to stop supporting that herbal supplement selling jew huckster.

Timothy_Fitzpatrick

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Quote from: "-Pas-"You are good with ad homs and insults but you have to do better than that to change the people's mind on this forum about MSMD 's outstanding work.If you read his posts and still think he's an ADL posterboy, it would be an understatement to call you delusional.

Please, Pas. Don't fall for this. The only reason Giuliani and his disciples are "ripping" MSMD is because MSMD presents a competitive threat to Giuliani, as he has a similar message. Both endorse a Marxist-Atheist world conspiratorial view with an intense hatred of religion, particularly Christianity. Now you may not like Christians, but the fact of the matter remains that it is typical Marxist Jewish behaviour to attack and try to discredit Christianity. MSMD and Giuliani's discourses are quite obviously subversive at best. If you don't see this, you are blind.

AZL, I never called Giuliani a WASP. I said he doesn't come off as a WASP. And so what if I endorse JAM and Delaney? I do endorse them, as anti-Zionists. I don't endorse their flaws and I believe they are more sincere, even with their Nazi sympathies. I'd take a Nazi sympathizer over a crypto-Marxist any day. AZL, I admit that I know nothing about your apparent dispute with Delaney, but what I would say to both you would be to get over it and get back to work. Stop the infighting. We are all on the same side. Let the shills expose themselves—which they always do.

It seems to me, characters in this movement are getting jealous of others because they want to be leaders in the movement. Why do we need leaders? Why can't we just have brothers on a level playing field? That's the problem with you all. So much jealousy and territorial behaviour. Unlike some of you, I don't follow any leaders, no matter how impressive their knowledge or articles are. It's a fundamental flaw to be in need of a leader at this stage.

And on that subject, that is why Christian anti-Zionists are more consistent and have a stronger foundation than non-Christian anti-Zionists. Christians put their faith in Jesus Christ while non-Christians put their faith and guidance in the hands of mere men, like Giuliani, Alex Jones, et al. Christian anti-Zionism was historically more effective and more potent than what we have today, largely because of aristocracy.

AZL wrote:

QuoteNote: Charles Giuliani is also co-host at The AZL Roundtable (The AZL's podcast at http:azlroundtable.podbean.com)
Website for his Truth Hertz program is "Oracle Broadcasting" - which is itself run by big-time, Judeo-Freemasons, associated with Joseph Farrell and David Childress (aka Chibango, hence the name of Oracle's chatroom: Chitango), of "Adventures Unlimited". It is no easy task keeping clear of the vipers. But thus far we have done it, while Charles, time after time, strives to keep up his end of the bargain. He "gives the benefit of the doubt", at first, until that becomes impossible. Believes until he can believe no more. When that happens: LOOK OUT. Wouldn't want to be caught on the bad end of a Giuliani expose, guys.

Not surprising.
Fitzpatrick Informer:

stoneskull

it bugged me that Charles Giuliani didn't get what Caroline Yeager was trying to say.

i would've been frustrated myself.. i think charles needs an ego check.

she made the consistent point about not claiming things without evidence.
she'd obviously read the conspiracy theories herself but saw what was unfounded..
and she wants a serious discussion on what there is evidence for..
but he's too much in 'radio star' mode to be able to do it..
and i believe has yet to filter his mind to separate the conspiracy facts from theories..
the reality from the propaganda.

i would prescribe some sunshine, a reading of e-prime and having a good night's sleep.

Anonymous

'Christian anti-Zionists are more consistent and have a stronger foundation than non-Christian anti-Zionists'

'Christians put their faith in Jesus Christ while non-Christians put their faith and guidance in the hands of mere men, like Giuliani, Alex Jones, et al'

What Christian anti-Zionists are you talking about? Christians have no strong foundation at all, how does putting your faith in Jesus Christ do anything positive. Christianity has no creditability, I wonder what your motive is putting Christianity in a positive light when you are Muslim.

'but the fact of the matter remains that it is typical Marxist Jewish behaviour to attack and try to discredit Christianity'

There is nothing to it, it is obvious Christianity is garbage, just because someone rejects Christianity does not make them a jew atheist. The word atheist is awful and inaccurate because it conjours up the idea that a atheist follows a belief in no god as a religion.

stoneskull

Yes, she should be commended for pushing her message hard like that and not letting Guiliani make her say or agree to something he feels is an 'acceptable position' to have.

Timothy_Fitzpatrick

Quote from: "bluejelly"'Christian anti-Zionists are more consistent and have a stronger foundation than non-Christian anti-Zionists'

'Christians put their faith in Jesus Christ while non-Christians put their faith and guidance in the hands of mere men, like Giuliani, Alex Jones, et al'

What Christian anti-Zionists are you talking about? Christians have no strong foundation at all, how does putting your faith in Jesus Christ do anything positive. Christianity has no creditability, I wonder what your motive is putting Christianity in a positive light when you are Muslim.

'but the fact of the matter remains that it is typical Marxist Jewish behaviour to attack and try to discredit Christianity'

There is nothing to it, it is obvious Christianity is garbage, just because someone rejects Christianity does not make them a jew atheist. The word atheist is awful and inaccurate because it conjours up the idea that a atheist follows a belief in no god as a religion.

stoneskull

Yes, she should be commended for pushing her message hard like that and not letting Guiliani make her say or agree to something he feels is an 'acceptable position' to have.

LMAO!!! Really? Where do you get that I am a Muslim?

Stop downplaying the dialectics of MSMD and Giuliani. Do you think we were born yesterday? They don't simply reject Christianity. Attacking Christianity has become thematic for them. In fact, they wouldn't have much else to talk about it if weren't for Christianity. Giuliani wouldn't even have a show.

Meanwhile, you act as if Giuliani and MSMD are just casual atheists who are inadvertently pointing out the "flawed" Christian system. Are you engaging in self-deception or knowingly lying?
Fitzpatrick Informer:

ditto

Arrrgggggh!

When I make dis speech...I know I speak for 95% of da world's populayshunz...
I know I speaks fo' da old, da young, da disfranchised. Whoever you be - left or right, Mayweather or Ortiz, Hitler or Stalin, DBS or Ognir - it be time...
It be time to end da centuries of reppreshunz!
It be time fo' magical, spiritual, über-duper vibrayshunz to bring about a final solution to defeat da powers dat be!

In ze name of Carolyn Yeager...
...let thy will be done!
...let it be so!

All together now!

Arrrrgggggggggggh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!