Caroline Yeager VS Charles Giuliani

Started by -Pas-, September 08, 2011, 11:39:40 PM

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Ognir

Most zionists don't believe that God exists, but they do believe he promised them Palestine

- Ilan Pappe

Anonymous

QuoteAre you engaging in self-deception or knowingly lying?

You need to learn how to nest those better.

Moe Foe

Quote from: "bluejelly"Yeah that guy who Giuliani has on sounds like such a jew scammer. He just talks so much shit and he makes up alot of stories as well. He tries to create the illusion that he has been everywhere. He says rubbish like DNA is in constant flux and even a story that one of his clients went through a scanner at the airport and became sick, she called him and he recommended her to take the system toner which she had on her, after she took it she was well again. Giuliani backs him up on all this shit, says he uses it on his bike rides. He won't tell anyone what is in his stuff.
Yeah that scanner story sure did set off the bullshit bells in my head.  It's snake oil salesmen like this guy who prey on the paranoid that are arguably worse than the people in the system they claim to be opposing.  I think it is definitely a black mark on Giulliani's credibility to be so closely associated with people like this to the point of cutting off callers who ask reasonable questions about the products.  On the other hand he deserves praise for having people on who are much further towards the fringes than he is himself - Yeager and MSMD.   I disagree with a lot of what MSMD has to say and I find Yeager's Saint Hitler of Austria hypothesis irreconcilable with reality overall but anyone who gives them a platform deserves praise in my opinion.

Quote from: "bluejelly"Yeager is awsome I have no problem with her whatsoever, she deserves peoples support. Giuliani is good but he has to stop supporting that herbal supplement selling jew huckster.
I would imagine it is the other way round and it's Giulliani who is being supported.  It's early days for me, the jury's still out.  I've only listened to a couple of shows but look forward to listening to more.

Moe Foe

Quote from: "stoneskull"she made the consistent point about not claiming things without evidence.

Right, but don't you find it ironic that she labels Langer a likely Jew solely on the basis of his enrolment in the OSS?

(I would speculate that she did in fact search for some evidence of his Jewishness but found nothing but solidered on regardless to make the facts fit her narrative)

Anonymous

http://carolynyeager.com/Hitler%20not%20a%20Jew.htm

QuoteWilliam L. Langer was recruited during the war to work for the new OSS. Taking leave from his position as head of the History Dept. at Harvard Univ., he became head of the Research and Analysis Section of the OSS. He must have had something to do with bringing his brother Walter into his section, since Walter's main accomplishment was a psychological analysis of Adolf Hitler. Walter Langer was a psychoanalyst with a PhD but not an M.D.; he was the first person admitted to the American Psychiatric Association without a medical degree. Imagine that! The brothers were the sons of German immigrants to the U.S. No religion is ever given for either, increasing the likelihood the family was Jewish but did not want to advertise that fact. Langer is a common Ashkanazi Jewish and German name. For instance, there is a Rabbi Samuel Langer, well known on the U.S. east coast who died in 1969, and David Langer, a Jewish soldier in the Polish Army whose picture was taken in 1929. At the end of the war, William was appointed special assistant for intelligence analysis to the U.S. Secretary of State, James F. Byrnes. In 1950, William Langer organized the office of National Estimates in the newly established Central Intelligence Agency [CIA], the successor of the OSS. He returned to Harvard in the 1950's, but from 1961 to 1977 he served on the President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board [from the Kennedy through Ford administrations]. In his book Diplomacy of Imperialism [1956], he argued against a "genocide" of the Armenians on the grounds their revolutionary leaders provoked the Turks into it.

Enough evidence for me

Moe Foe

Quote from: "bluejelly"http://carolynyeager.com/Hitler%20not%20a%20Jew.htm

QuoteWilliam L. Langer was recruited during the war to work for the new OSS. Taking leave from his position as head of the History Dept. at Harvard Univ., he became head of the Research and Analysis Section of the OSS. He must have had something to do with bringing his brother Walter into his section, since Walter's main accomplishment was a psychological analysis of Adolf Hitler. Walter Langer was a psychoanalyst with a PhD but not an M.D.; he was the first person admitted to the American Psychiatric Association without a medical degree. Imagine that! The brothers were the sons of German immigrants to the U.S. No religion is ever given for either, increasing the likelihood the family was Jewish but did not want to advertise that fact. Langer is a common Ashkanazi Jewish and German name. For instance, there is a Rabbi Samuel Langer, well known on the U.S. east coast who died in 1969, and David Langer, a Jewish soldier in the Polish Army whose picture was taken in 1929. At the end of the war, William was appointed special assistant for intelligence analysis to the U.S. Secretary of State, James F. Byrnes. In 1950, William Langer organized the office of National Estimates in the newly established Central Intelligence Agency [CIA], the successor of the OSS. He returned to Harvard in the 1950's, but from 1961 to 1977 he served on the President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board [from the Kennedy through Ford administrations]. In his book Diplomacy of Imperialism [1956], he argued against a "genocide" of the Armenians on the grounds their revolutionary leaders provoked the Turks into it.

Enough evidence for me

There is zero evidence there.  Two other people from decades ago with the same surname? How could that possibly be enough evidence for you?

Anonymous

The two brothers behaved like jews. One helping the other into powerful positions. He worked at Harvard, psychoanalyst, etc. The stuff he wrote about hitler, saying he wanted to eat feces and drink urine. I must admit they don't look all that Jewish but there are not many good close up photos or side on photos where you can really check out the beaks & 30 degree foreheads.

Timothy_Fitzpatrick

Quote from: "bluejelly"The two brothers behaved like jews. One helping the other into powerful positions. He worked at Harvard, psychoanalyst, etc. The stuff he wrote about hitler, saying he wanted to eat feces and drink urine. I must admit they don't look all that Jewish but there are not many good close up photos or side on photos where you can really check out the beaks & 30 degree foreheads.

You're one to be speculating about supposed crypto-Jews.
Fitzpatrick Informer:

Moe Foe

Quote from: "bluejelly"The two brothers behaved like jews. One helping the other into powerful positions. He worked at Harvard, psychoanalyst, etc. The stuff he wrote about hitler, saying he wanted to eat feces and drink urine. I must admit they don't look all that Jewish but there are not many good close up photos or side on photos where you can really check out the beaks & 30 degree foreheads.

Look I'm not trying to back you into a corner here or force the issue but none of the above are resemebling even circumstancial evidence for Langer's Jewishness.  The point I'm trying to make is that Yeager appears to have a high level of proof for points that doesn't suit her agenda and zero proof is neccessary for proving points that does suit her agenda.  This is bias.

I looked up the name Langer.  It is a Saxon surname from the Middle-ages.  It means long in German.  Family names came about from nick-names in Germany at the time so Long/Langer would have been a nick-name, which became a surname for a tall person.

GordZilla

Yup, here we go again, it's obvious Christianity is pure bullshit ... wtf? The very first man to call the Jews out and the best at it ever since is pure bullshit? What they wrote that? I agree the religion of Christianity is definitely seen better days, but the key here is; THAT IT HAS seen better days. If not for Christian's resistance to the Jew, over the centuries, the Jews would be a lot further ahead than they are now. It's the same crap every time, but look at what the man said about the 'Jews' and the time in which He said it and I think it would be absolutely foolish to write this off as merely the rantings of a drunken sailor, or some device invented by the Jews for controlling gentiles that simply 'backfired'. No, the man was genuine and knew the Jew better than most do today, and He knew them at their very core. I think it's completely dishonest to write this off  as simply 'bullshit' ,  and especially if one is 'Jew-wise'.   But then comes the old argument that they 'invented' Christianity, again such bullshit on so many levels, but the most obvious is the push they had on destroying the church and it's message for the last how many hundreds of years?  A push against something they themselves created?? What about the many times Christians have fought back, fought back with a distrust and knowledge of the Jew derived primarily  from the very man you claim to be bullshit?   Hell you don't even have to go back but 3 generations to find people who were 'Jew wise' , and they accomplished this simply from the words of Jesus -and nothing else. I made this point many times before but again; in Father Coughlin's time he found a huge audience ready to listen only  BECAUSE that huge audience was primarily Christian and because of that they already had their suspicions about the Jew -again not from the internet and again Father Coughlin could not accomplish the same thing today. America  used to be filled with this type of Christian, so much so that they were torn as to which side to side with during WW2. People were much more 'Jew wise' when Christianity was strong and true then they are today, even despite our best efforts - and that's a fact. They worked hard to destroy that fact, and have all but succeeded now -thanks again to the power of their mass media and their curroption of the church.

If you honestly think they have just 'evolved' that way, you are really missing the boat here. It's obvious these 'people' are not the same as the rest of humanity, not in the slightest! They are something entirely different, and not understanding that will lead to history repeating. If you think for a minute some of them can be trusted , then you are destined to be fooled and used again and again and again. The first man to point this out -directly- was indeed Jesus, He told you exactly what they are , and they fit His description better than any other excuse for them that you could possibly conjure up -even today. They are indeed Satan's seed, Satan's first trick is to convince you he doesn't exist. His minions are doing this work for him by destroying any notion of 'God' amongst the youth, and destroying any religion of God from within.  Now others have taken up that cause for them (knowingly and unknowingly)- hatred of God has all but become a fashion statement now. But all that aside, Jesus still remains an anomaly, one who understands the Jew better than anyone on this forum, people living in the 'information age' , and He's the one who's hated above all else by our collective enemy. Yup, bullshit. You just keep believing that.

I understand well why people would steer away from organized religion, I do too, it's corrupted thru and thru BUT Jesus' message has remained, and still does. A true follower of His word doesn't succumb to the Jew and never has. And that's why the message of Jesus has all but disappeared from their, now controlled,  organized 'Chirstian' religion.  Jesus' home is on the individual level, and His message wakens an individual to the Jew -one at a time, indelibly in their hearts and minds. . AS SEEN REPEATEDLY in history. They know this, they have learned this lesson and since the beginning of mass media they have worked hard to destroy His message and His followers.  They know the power of Jesus' words on a gentile, they seen its backlash repeatedly. And all this, why? Cause they created Him? What fools are they? Why should we even concern ourselves with them when clearly they are such horrible planners? But obviously they are not, and obviously Jesus is not their creation.

And please, finally and once and for all, understand the 'Jews' of the Bible are not the "Jews" of today. The word wasn't even used, 'Judean' was, but the Jews of today were not Judeans, they are the Pharisees. Understanding that is key.  Their books, their Talmud, was written by the Pharisees In Babylon, and were the very focus of Jesus' dislike for these creatures, He also quite accurately predicted what these creatures would do with their 'great' books. What course they'd take, and what they'd do to us. All with impeccable accuracy. Why on earth any 'Jew-wise' person would simply dismiss that is beyond me. They often say things like ; ' well God did things I didn't like....killing people etc etc' . Well first off, sorry He didn't check with you first, good luck with that. But secondly He is the keeper of souls, so what is 'killing' to Him? He tells us not to do it, but it seems ok for Him, yes, but is it the same for us to take life as it is for Him? When He can actually 'take' it somewhere? People can only see from this plain, it's where we are at and its all we can know while here, but if there's more and ending life is not the 'end all' then so what if He takes some souls? Ok admittedly we can't know if there's more beyond this life, but we have a big clue in Jesus, the most  'Jew wise' man ever to have walked on earth, who knew of this conspiracy long before you or I, who is hated first and foremost by our greatest enemy, who is discredited at every chance they get. Yeah He just might have known something, and if He did then maybe there's some truth in the other things He had said.  To an honest 'Jew wise' person THIS SHOULD BE OBVIOUS, that there is something to be learned from this man. Your hatred (or disbelief) of God whether admitted or implied  is understandable, but it's a product of theirs. God is not, and that's the very thing they fear the most; His wraith. They are not fools on this front, so why are so many 'Jew-wise' so readily dismissing the words of Jesus?  We disregard it out of hand,  we can't explain it but it doesn't fit with our sensibilities so therefore it must be 'bullshit'. Whether knowingly or not; they are very proud of you, their product; a good and faithless goyim. Regardless the faith, a faithless community will not remain a community, nor will it produce morals nor culture. When it comes to unity shared belief is key, key to cults which beget cultures which then beget civilizations. Another secret they know well, and work hard to destroy. Please quit helping. Unity will be our strength! I can unite with those that have no faith but remain 'Jew wise' but telling the faithful 'Jew wise'  that they believe in 'bullshit' only serves them. It divides us. Perhaps Giuliani will one day realize this too, God willing.

This is not written as an attempt to offend  anyone, but in defense of those that do have faith -and in whatever that faith may be.  Hopefully you can understand how some might take offense, on a Jew wise  board, when their faiths are simply (and sometimes arrogantly) dismissed. We need numbers, not infighting.

Anonymous

Hi GordZilla.

I don't see that jesus did or said anything to expose the jews. People says that Jesus really exposes them, I don't see it at all.

http://www.conspirazzi.com/?p=1153

That site has I assume what Jesus said about the jews.

In  Matthew Chapter 23 it seems Jesus is just talking about people in general, people who are greedy, people who do good deeds for show etc, basically anyone who is not a Christian and does not follow him, he did not condemn them, ie they can still be saved.

Quote1 Then Jesus spoke to the crowds and to his disciples,
2 saying, "The scribes and the Pharisees have taken their seat on the chair of Moses.
3 Therefore, do and observe all things whatsoever they tell you, but do not follow their example. For they preach but they do not practice.
4 They tie up heavy burdens (hard to carry) and lay them on people's shoulders, but they will not lift a finger to move them.
  All their works are performed to be seen. They widen their phylacteries and lengthen their tassels.
  They love places of honor at banquets, seats of honor in synagogues,
  greetings in marketplaces, and the salutation 'Rabbi.'
  As for you, do not be called 'Rabbi.' You have but one teacher, and you are all brothers.
  Call no one on earth your father; you have but one Father in heaven.
  Do not be called 'Master'; you have but one master, the Messiah.

Jesus pretty was saying that these scribes and Pharisees that ran the temples were not good examples, but he said what they taught was good, just don't follow their example.

QuoteThe very first man to call the Jews out and the best at it ever since is pure bullshit?

He was not the first and hardly the best. For example

CICERO (Marcus Tullius Cicero). First century B.C. Roman stateman - "The Jews belong to a dark and repulsive force. One knows how numerous this clique is, how they stick together and what power they exercise through their unions. They are a nation of rascals and deceivers."

QuoteBut then comes the old argument that they 'invented' Christianity, again such bullshit on so many levels

No, many teachings are detrimental, eg love your enemies, if someone hits you turn the other cheek, fight by displaying pathetic passive resistance, care not of the morrow as the morrow will take care of you (with the example being of a bird), give away all your possessions and many other woeful teachings that would fill a jews heart with glee to know a stupid goy would follow them, it softens them up prey and makes them easy prey to rob, cheat & kill. The Jews sent Paul who was a jew to promote and control christianity, change it more to their liking. It is quite obvious, he changes his name from Saul a jewiah name to Paul, claims on the road that Jesus spoke to him and that he should help the christians. Things such as being locked up in prison, likely it was done to give him street cred and he paid off the guards to let him out. Simple reasoning and deduction of events are far more plausible than ascribing supernatural events to them. It is said paul had very poor eyesight yet he had the gift to heal others he claimed, if that is true he would have been able to cure himself, arguments that  god did not want him healed are bogus, it is the actions of a conman, like bennyhinn (jew) who claims he heals people yet he does not and tricks people yet or gets actors to pretend they were healed, the proof is in the pudding that if he could not demonstrate it on himself.

QuoteIf you honestly think they have just 'evolved' that way, you are really missing the boat here. It's obvious these 'people' are not the same as the rest of humanity, not in the slightest! They are something entirely different, and not understanding that will lead to history repeating.

Yes they are different, but not entirely different but regardless your way to think of them is good so you never let your guard down. Yes I believe their behavior evolved with them along with their writings. I mean if you have a group who over the centuries interbreed with each other with the highest goals to be readers, writers & speakers, hate everyone, greedy, liars and those who showed those attributes the most were encouraged to have more offspring, they would over time have those behaviors instinctively. All creatures have a notch and set of techniques in order to survive, jews are no different, this is just their way of surviving.  

QuoteJesus' home is on the individual level, and His message wakens an individual to the Jew -one at a time

That is untrue, I see no evidence of that.

QuoteYour hatred (or disbelief) of God whether admitted or implied is understandable, but it's a product of theirs.

I used to be a Christian, I released that Christians are not really honest and neither was I. I used to say stupid stuff that I could feel the love of the jesus and how wonderful it was to be saved, how wonderful it is to know you have been forgiven etc. That is what most people claim, but pretty much all christians have to say that or other christians would not think you are one of them. Imagine saying you don't feel or ever experienced god's love for you? It is my belief that all christians lie about this, only the real loony deceive themselves that much that they can feel him. GordZilla do you experience gods love?

Some of the ways it is claimed that Jesus fullfilled some of the prophecies in the bible infact says many of the prophecies Jesus fullfilled he read about them in the Old Testament and simply did them such as the coming messiah riding a donkey into Jerusalem, they arrive at Jerusalem and just before entering he instructs his disciples to get him a donkey and they ask why he says because it is prophesied the messiah will ride into town on a donkey. If that isn't massive real life trolling, I don't know what is.

QuoteHopefully you can understand how some might take offense, on a Jew wise board, when their faiths are simply (and sometimes arrogantly) dismissed. We need numbers, not infighting.

I have no problem with people of different faiths, anyone who is on the same page about the problems is fine by me.

About what you claim that Jews promote Darwinism, that is true up until a point where is does not interfere/overlap with their cultural marxism, they claim humans finished evolving 50,000 years ago so there is no need to relate darwin in society. I do think the jews did play a big part in bringing christianity to the gentiles, they were not going to leave it upto chance for the gentiles to come up with something on their own, they made sure that what they believed was atleast ok by them and I see no danger of jews from Christians other than it brings them together and can create a mob. Perhaps they see Christianity as getting long in the tooth, we know alot more about our world than we did and more often than not what is observed in the world does not coincide with the bible and therefore they needed something different today for those who decide to be or not be christians.

Timothy_Fitzpatrick

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bluejelly writes:

QuoteI don't see that jesus did or said anything to expose the jews. People says that Jesus really exposes them, I don't see it at all.


[youtube:u899s7me]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alfxbonb2Do[/youtube]u899s7me]

Besides, it shouldn't be Jesus' admonishment of the Jews—something which He clearly did—that draws you to Him. It should be a yearning from within to know and unify with your creator.

QuoteSome of the ways it is claimed that Jesus fullfilled some of the prophecies in the bible infact says many of the prophecies Jesus fullfilled he read about them in the Old Testament and simply did them such as the coming messiah riding a donkey into Jerusalem, they arrive at Jerusalem and just before

Jesus fulfilled over 300 Old Testament prophecies. Did he conspire on all of them? Seems if Jesus conspired to fulfill OT prophecies, the Pharisees of His day would have called him out on it, no? And certainly, the Jews would have levelled these charges against Him to the Romans, something which would surely have solidified legitimacy for his crucifixion—yet Pilate called Jesus "innocent." Consequently, the Jews could not get a crucifixion order from a reluctant Pilate and resorted to their political prowess to get it. Furthermore, we see not one revelation from any historical Jewish writing of Jesus conspiring to fulfill all of these prophecies. Not one. Instead, the Jews simply revert to ignoring this remarkable fact. Do you honestly believe Jesus somehow managed to get the Pharisees to entice Judas into treachery for 30 pieces of silver? This is absurd and highly improbable. The moon landing hoax theory is more believable than this.

QuoteI do think the jews did play a big part in bringing christianity to the gentiles, they were not going to leave it upto chance for the gentiles to come up with something on their own, they made sure that what they believed was atleast ok by them and I see no danger of jews from Christians other than it brings them together and can create a mob. Perhaps they see Christianity as getting long in the tooth, we know alot more about our world than we did and more often than not what is observed in the world does not coincide with the bible and therefore they needed something different today for those who decide to be or not be christians.

Judaism is not a proselytizing religion, never has been. Can you or Giuliani demonstrate that Jews, as a group, brought Christianity to gentiles, without mere conjecture and speculation?

QuoteNo, many teachings are detrimental, eg love your enemies, if someone hits you turn the other cheek, fight by displaying pathetic passive resistance, care not of the morrow as the morrow will take care of you (with the example being of a bird), give away all your possessions and many other woeful teachings that would fill a jews heart with glee to know a stupid goy would follow them, it softens them up prey and makes them easy prey to rob, cheat & kill.

Context, context, context! Jesus was speaking to potential disciples of His tim, for our time, giving up of possessions has spiritual meaning. Obviously you don't see all Christians with no possessions today. Turning the other cheek references petty duals, which are fruitless and vain. This can in no wise be misconstrued as a reference to not defending yourself against violence. Historically, Christians have always defended themselves against intrusion. And to boot, Christians were among the first to bear arms.

Bluejelly, don't you think it's rather reckless to toss aside an entire religion based on a few bad experiences you had with the evangelical movement?
Fitzpatrick Informer:

Anonymous

QuoteThere was a prophesy in the Bible that was well known to the people of Jerusalem. The prophet, Zechariah had said, "Shout with gladness, daughter of Jerusalem! See now, your king comes to you; he is victorious, he is triumphant, humble and riding on a donkey. He will proclaim peace for the nation. His empire will stretch from sea to sea." Zech 9:9-10

On Palm Sunday Jesus decided to act out this prophesy for everybody to see.  He was humble: he came without an army, without money; he had no influence with the authorities. He rode on a donkey, not on a horse which was the animal of war. He was peaceful, he did not resort to violence. Yet he made it clear that he came as a king or leader who would be victorious.

He and everyone was aware of the donkey prophecy.

Also it appears he may have been dishonest and perhaps stole the donkey.

QuoteGo into the village facing you, and as soon as you enter it you will find a colt tied, on which no one has ever sat. Untie it and bring it here.  If anyone says to you, 'What are you doing?' say, 'The Lord needs it and will send it back directly.'

Also did jesus send the donkey back directly?

Timothy_Fitzpatrick

Quote from: "bluejelly"
QuoteThere was a prophesy in the Bible that was well known to the people of Jerusalem. The prophet, Zechariah had said, "Shout with gladness, daughter of Jerusalem! See now, your king comes to you; he is victorious, he is triumphant, humble and riding on a donkey. He will proclaim peace for the nation. His empire will stretch from sea to sea." Zech 9:9-10

On Palm Sunday Jesus decided to act out this prophesy for everybody to see.  He was humble: he came without an army, without money; he had no influence with the authorities. He rode on a donkey, not on a horse which was the animal of war. He was peaceful, he did not resort to violence. Yet he made it clear that he came as a king or leader who would be victorious.

He and everyone was aware of the donkey prophecy.

Also it appears he may have been dishonest and perhaps stole the donkey.

QuoteGo into the village facing you, and as soon as you enter it you will find a colt tied, on which no one has ever sat. Untie it and bring it here.  If anyone says to you, 'What are you doing?' say, 'The Lord needs it and will send it back directly.'

Also did jesus send the donkey back directly?

I repeat myself:

Jesus fulfilled over 300 Old Testament prophecies. Did he conspire on all of them? Seems if Jesus conspired to fulfill OT prophecies, the Pharisees of His day would have called him out on it, no? And certainly, the Jews would have levelled these charges against Him to the Romans, something which would surely have solidified legitimacy for his crucifixion—yet Pilate called Jesus "innocent." Consequently, the Jews could not get a crucifixion order from a reluctant Pilate and resorted to their political prowess to get it. Furthermore, we see not one revelation from any historical Jewish writing of Jesus conspiring to fulfill all of these prophecies. Not one. Instead, the Jews simply revert to ignoring this remarkable fact. Do you honestly believe Jesus somehow managed to get the Pharisees to entice Judas into treachery for 30 pieces of silver? This is absurd and highly improbable. The moon landing hoax theory is more believable than this.

Show me the collusion in all of these fulfilled prophecies:

1. Genesis 3:15.....Seed of a woman (virgin birth).....Luke 1:35, Matthew 1:18-20
2. Genesis 3:15.....He will bruise Satan's head.....Hebrews 2:14, 1 John 3:18
3. Genesis 5:24....The bodily ascension to heaven illustrated....Mark 6:19
4. Genesis 9:26-27...The God of Shem will be the Son of Shem...Luke 3:36
5. Genesis 12:3...As Abraham's seed, will bless all nations...Acts 3:25,26
6. Genesis 12:7...The The Promise made made to Abraham's Seed...Galatians 3:16
7. Genesis 14:18...A priest after Melchizedek...Hebrews 6:20
8. Genesis 14:18........A King also........Hebrews 7:2
9. Genesis 14:18...The Last Supper foreshadowed...Matthew 26:26-29
10.  Genesis 17:19.......The Seed of Isaac.......Romans. 9:7
11.  Genesis 21:12 ...Seed of Isaac...Romans 9:7, Hebrews 11:18
12.  Genesis 22:8...The Lamb of God promised...John 1:29
13.  Genesis 22:18...As Isaac's seed, will bless all nations...Galatians 3:16
14.  Genesis26:2-5..The Seed of Isaac promised as the Redeemer..Hebrews11:18
15.  Genesis 49:10...The time of His coming...Luke 2:1-7; Galatians 4:4
16.  Genesis 49:10.......The Seed of Judah.......Luke 3:33
17.  Genesis 49:10......Called Shiloh or One Sent......John 17:3
18.  Genesis 49:10...To come before Judah lost identity...John 11:47-52
19.  Genesis 49:10...To Him shall the obedience of the people be...John 10:16
20.  Exodus 3:13,14........The Great "I Am".......John 4:26
21.  Exodus 12:5...A Lamb without blemish...1 Pet. 1:19
22.  Exodus 12:13...The blood of the Lamb saves Romans wrath...Romans. 5:8
23.  Exodus 12:21-27...Christ is our Passover...1 Corinthians 5;7
24.  Exodus 12:46...Not a bone of the Lamb to be broken...John 19:31-36
25.  Exodus 13:2...Blessing to first born son...Luke 2:23
26.  Exodus 15:2...His exaltation predicted as Yeshua...Acts 7:55,56
27.  Exodus 15:11...His Character-Holiness...Luke 1:35; Acts 4:27
28.  Exodus 17:6...The Spiritual Rock of Israel...1 Corinthians 10;4
29.  Exodus 33:19...His Character-Merciful...Luke 1:72
30.  Leviticus14:11...The leper cleansed-Sign to priesthood..Luke5:12-14; Acts 6:7
31.  Leviticus16:15-17...Prefigures Christ's once-for-all death...Hebrews 9:7-14
32.  Leviticus16:27...Suffering outside the Camp...Matthew 27:33; Hebrews 13:11, 12
33.  Leviticus17:11...The Blood-the life of the flesh...Matthew 26;28; Mark 10:45
34.  Leviticus17:11...It is the blood that makes atonement...1 John 3:14-18
35.  Leviticus23:36-37...The Drink-offering: "If any man thirst." ..John 19:31-36
36.  Numbers 9:12...Not a bone of Him broken...John 19:31-36
37.  Numbers 21:9...The serpent on a pole-Christ lifted up...John 3:14-18
38.  Numbers 24:8... Flight to Egypt...Matthew 2:14
39.  Numbers 24:17...Time: "I shall see him, but not now."...Galatians 4:4
40.  Numbers 24:17-19...A star out of Jacob...Matthew 2:2, Luke 1:33,78, Revelation 22:16
41.  Deuteronomy 18:15..."This is of a truth that prophet."...John 6:14
42.  Deuteronomy 18:15-16..."Had ye believed Moses, ye would believe me."...John 5:45-47
43.  Deuteronomy 18:18...Sent by the Father to speak His word...John 8:28, 29
44.  Deuteronomy 18:19...Whoever will not hear must bear his sin...John 12:15
45.  Deuteronomy 21:13-23...As a prophet...John 6:14; 7:40, Acts 3:22,23
46.  Deuteronomy 21:23...Cursed is he that hangs on a tree...Galatians 3:10-13
47.  Ruth 4:4-9...Christ, our kinsman, has redeemed us...Ephesians 1:3-7
48.  1 Samuel 2:10...Shall be an anointed King to the Lord...Matthew 28:18; John 12:15
49.  2 Samuel 7:12...David's Seed...Matthew 1:1
50.  2 Samuel 7:14a...The Son of God... Luke 1:32
51.  2 Samuel 7:16...David's house established forever...Luke 3:31; Rev. 22:16
52.  2 Samuel 23:2-4...would be the "Rock"...1 Corinthians 10:4
53.  2 Samuel 23:2-4...would be as the "light of the morning"...Revelation 22:16
54.  2 Kings 2:11...The bodily ascension to heaven illustrated...Luke 24:51
55.  1 Chronicles 17:11...David's Seed...Matthew 1:1; 9:27
56.  1 Chronicles 17:12, 13a...To reign on David's throne forever...Luke 1:32, 33
57.  1 Chronicles 17:13a..."I will be His Father, He...my Son."...Hebrews 1:5
58.  Job 19:23-27...The Resurrection predicted...John 5:24-29
59.  Psalms 2:1-3...The enmity of kings foreordained...Acts 4:25-28
60.  Psalms 2:2...To own the title, Anointed (Christ)...Acts 2:36
61.  Psalms 2:6...His Character-Holiness...John 8:46; Rev. 3:7
62.  Psalms 2:6...To own the title King...Matthew 2:2
63.  Psalms 2:7...Declared the Beloved Son...Matthew 3:17
64.  Psalms 2:7, 8...The Crucifixion and Resurrection intimated...Acts 13:29-33
65.  Psalms 2:12...Life comes through faith in Him...John 20:31
66.  Psalms 8:2...The mouths of babes perfect His praise...Matthew 21:16
67.  Psalms 8:5, 6...His humiliation and exaltation...Luke 24:50-53; 1 Corinthians 15:27
68.  Psalms 16:10...Was not to see corruption...Acts 2:31
69.  Psalms 16:9-11...Was to arise from the dead...John 20:9
70.  Psalms 17;15...The resurrection predicted...Luke 24:6
71.  Psalms 22:1...Forsaken because of sins of others...2 Corinthians 5:21
72.  Psalms 22:1...Words spoken from Calvary, "My God..." Mark 15:34
73.  Psalms 22:2...Darkness upon Calvary...Matthew 27:45
74.  Psalms 22:7...They shoot out the lip and shake the head...Matthew 27:39
75.  Psalms 22:8.." He trusted in God, let Him deliver Him "...Matthew 27:43
76.  Psalms 22:9......Born the Savior......Luke 2:7
77.  Psalms 22:14...Died of a broken (ruptured) heart...John 19:34
78.  Psalms 22:14,15...Suffered agony on Calvary...Mark 15:34-37
79.  Psalms 22:15........He thirsted........John 19:28
80.  Psalms 22:16...They pierced His hands and His feet....John 19:34,37;20:27
81.  Psalms 22:17,18...Stripped Him before the stares of men...Luke 23:34,35
82.  Psalms 22:18.....They parted His garments.....John 19:23,24
83.  Psalms 22:20,21...He committed Himself to God...Luke23:46
84.  Psalms 22:20,21..Satanic power bruising the Redeemer's heel.. Hebrews 2:14
85.  Psalms 22:22.....His Resurrection declared.....John 20:17
86.  Psalms 22:27...He shall be the governor of the nations...Col 1:16
87.  Psalms 22:31......"It is finished"......John 19:30
88.  Psalms 23:1...."I am the Good Shepherd"....John 10:11
89.  Psalms 24:3......His exaltation predicted......Acts 1:11; Phil. 2:9
90.  Psalms 27:12...Accused by false witnesses...Matthew 26:60,61, Mark 14:57,58
91.  Psalms 30:3......His resurrection predicted......Acts 2:32
92.  Psalms 31:5..."Into thy hands I commit my spirit"...Luke 23:46
93.  Psalms 31:11...His acquaintances fled from Him...Mark 14:50
94.  Psalms 31:13...They took counsel to put Him to death...John 11:53
95.  Psalms 31:14,15..." He trusted in God, let Him deliver him"...Matthew 27:43
96.  Psalms 34:20.....Not a bone of Him broken.....John 19:31-36
97.  Psalms 35:11....False witnesses rose up against Him....Matthew 26:59
98.  Psalms 35:19...He was hated without a cause...John 15:25
99.  Psalms 38:11.....His friends stood afar off.....Luke 23:49
100.  Psalms 40:2-5...The joy of His resurrection predicted...John 20:20
101.  Psalms 40:6-8....His delight-the will of the Father....John 4:34
102.  Psalms 40:9....He was to preach the Righteousness in Israel....Matthew 4:17
103.  Psalms 40:14...Confronted by adversaries in the Garden...John
104.  Psalms 41:9.....Betrayed by a familiar friend.....John 13:18
105.  Psalms 45:2...Words of Grace come from His lips.. Luke 4:22
106.  Psalms 45:6...To own the title, God or Elohim...Hebrews 1:8
107.  Psalms 45:7...A special anointing by the Holy Spirit...Matthew3:16; Hebrews1:9
108.  Psalms 45:7,8...Called the Christ (Messiah or Anointed)...Luke 2:11
109. Psalms 49-15...His Resurrection...Acts 2:27; 13:35, Mark 16:6
110.  Psalms 55:12-14...Betrayed by a friend, not an enemy...John 13:18
111. Psalms 55:15...Unrepentant death of the Betrayer...Matthew 27:3-5; Acts 1:16-19
112. Psalms 68:18...To give gifts to men...Ephesians 4:7-16
113. Psalms 68:18...Ascended into Heaven...Luke 24:51
114. Psalms 69:4...Hated without a cause...John 15:25
115. Psalms 69:8...A stranger to own brethren...Luke 8;20,21
116. Psalms 69:9...Zealous for the Lord's House...John 2:17
117. Psalms 69:14-20...Messiah's anguish of soul before crucifixion...Matthew 26:36-45
118. Psalms 69:20..."My soul is exceeding sorrowful."...Matthew 26:38
119. Psalms 69:21...Given vinegar in thirst...Matthew 27:34
120. Psalms 69:26...The Savior given and smitten by God...John 17:4; 18:11
121. Psalms 72:10,11...Great persons were to visit Him...Matthew 2:1-11
122. Psalms 72:16...The corn of wheat to fall into the Ground...John 12:24
123. Psalms 72:17...His name, Yinon, will produce offspring...John 1:12,13
124. Psalms 72:17...All nations shall be blessed by Him...Acts 2:11,12,41
125. Psalms 78:1.2...He would teach in parables...Matthew 13:34-35
126. Psalms 78:2b...To speak the Wisdom of God with authority...Matthew 7:29
127. Psalms 88:8...They stood afar off and watched...Luke 23:49
128. Psalms 89:26...Messiah will call God His Father...Matthew 11:27
129. Psalms 89:27...Emmanuel to be higher than earthly kings...Luke 1:32,33
130. Psalms 89:35-37...David's Seed, throne, kingdom endure forever...Luke 1:32,33
131. Psalms 89:36-37...His character-Faithfulness...Rev. 1:5
132. Psalms 90:2...He is from everlasting (Micah 5:2)...John 1:1
133. Psalms 91:11,12...Identified as Messianic; used to tempt Christ...Luke 4;10,11
134. Psalms 97:9...His exaltation predicted...Acts 1:11;Ephesians 1:20
135. Psalms 100:5...His character-Goodness...Matthew 19:16,17
136. Psalms 102:1-11...The Suffering and Reproach of Calvary...John 21:16-30
137. Psalms 102:16...Son of Man comes in Glory...Luke 21:24
Revelation 12:5-10
138. Psalms 102:25-27...Messiah is the Preexistent Son...Hebrews 1:10-12
139. Psalms 109:4...Prays for His enemies...Luke 23:34
140. Psalms 109:7,8...Another to succeed Judas...Acts 1:16-20
141. Psalms 109:25...Ridiculed...Matthew 27:39
142. Psalms 110:1...Son of David...Matthew 22:43
143. Psalms 110:1...To ascend to the right-hand of the Father...Mark16:19
144. Psalms 110:1...David's son called Lord...Matthew 22:44,45
145. Psalms 110:4...A priest after Melchizedek's order...Hebrews 6:20
146. Psalms 112:4...His character-Compassionate, Gracious, et al... Matthew 9;36
147. Psalms 118:17,18...Messiah's Resurrection assured...Luke 24:5-7;1 Corinthians 15:20
148. Psalms 118:22,23...The rejected stone is Head of the corner...Matthew 21:42,43
149. Psalms 118:26a...The Blessed One presented to Israel...Matthew 21:9
150. Psalms 118:26b...To come while Temple standing...Matthew 21;12-15
151. Psalms 132:11...The Seed of David (the fruit of His Body)...Luke 1:32
152. Psalms 138:1-6...The supremacy of David's Seed amazes kings... Matthew 2:2-6
153. Psalms 147:3,6...The earthly ministry of Christ described...Luke 4:18
154. Psalms 1:23...He will send the Spirit of God... John 16;7
155. Proverbs 8:22-23...The Messiah would be from everlasting...John 17:5
156. Proverbs 30:4...Declared to be the Son of God...John 3:13, Romans 1:2-4, 10:6-9, 2 Peter 1:17
157. Song of Solomon 5:16...The altogether lovely One...John 1:17
158. Isaiah 2:2-4...Repentance for the nations...Luke 24:47
159. Isaiah 4:2...Messiah reigning
160. Isaiah 5:1-6...Son of God's vineyard: a parable of judgment
161. Isaiah 6:1...When Isaiah saw His glory... John 12:40-41
162. Isaiah 6:9-10...Parables fall on deaf ears...Matthew 13:13-15
163. Isaiah 6:9-12...Blinded to Christ and deaf to His words...Acts 28:23-29
164. Isaiah 7:14...To be born of a virgin...Luke 1:35
165. Isaiah 7:14...To be Emmanuel-God with us... Matthew 1:18-23
166. Isaiah 8:8...Called Emmanuel...Matthew 28:20
167. Isaiah 8:14...A stone of stumbling, a Rock of offense... 1 Pet. 2:8
168. Isaiah 9:1,2...His ministry to begin in Galilee...Matthew 4:12-17
169. Isaiah 9:6...A child born-Humanity...Luke 1:31
170. Isaiah 9:6...A Son given-Deity...Luke 1:32; John 1;14; 1 Tim. 3:16
171. Isaiah 9:6...Declared to be the Son of God with power... Romans. 1:3,4
172. Isaiah 9:6...The Wonderful One, Peleh...Luke 4:22
173. Isaiah 9:6...The Counselor, Yaatz...Matthew 13:54
174. Isaiah 9:6...The Mighty God, El Gibor...Matthew 11:20
175. Isaiah 9:6...The Everlasting Father, Avi Adth...John 8:58
176. Isaiah 9:6...The Prince of Peace, Sar Shalom...John . 16:33
177. Isaiah 9:7...To establish an everlasting kingdom...Luke 1:32-33
178. Isaiah 9:7...His Character-Just...John 5:30
179. Isaiah 9:7...No end to his Government, Throne, and Peace...Luke 1:32-33
180. Isaiah 11:1...Called a Nazarene-the Branch, Netzer...Matthew 2:23
181. Isaiah 11:1...A rod out of Jesse-Son of Jesse...Luke 3:23,32
182. Isaiah 11:2...The anointed One by the Spirit...Matthew 3;16,17
183. Isaiah 11:2...His Character-Wisdom, Understanding, et al....John 4:4-26
184. Isaiah 11:4...His Character-Truth...John 14:6
185. Isaiah 11:10...The Gentiles seek Him...John 12:18-21
186. Isaiah 12:2...Called Jesus-Yeshua (salvation)...Matthew 1:21
187. Isaiah 16:4,5...Reigning in mercy...Luke 1:31-33
188. Isaiah 22:21-25...Peg in a sure place...Revelation 3:7
189. Isaiah 25:8...The Resurrection predicted...I Corinthians 15:54
190. Isaiah 26:19...His power of Resurrection predicted...John 11:43,44
191. Isaiah 28:16...The Messiah is the precious corner stone...Acts 4:11,12
192. Isaiah 29:13...He indicated hypocritical obedience to His Word...Matthew 15:7-9
193. Isaiah 29:14...The wise are confounded by the Word...I Corinthians 1:18-31
194. Isaiah 32:2...A Refuge-A man shall be a hiding place...Matthew 23:37
195. Isaiah 33:22...Son of the Highest...Luke 1:32; 1 Timothy 1:17 6:15
196. Isaiah 35:4...He will come and save you...Matthew 1:21
197. Isaiah 35:5...To have a ministry of miracles...Matthew 11:4-6
198. Isaiah 40:3,4...Preceded by forerunner...John 1:23
199. Isaiah 40:9..."Behold your God."...John 1:36;19:14
200. Isaiah 40:11...A shepherd-compassionate life-giver...John 10:10-18
201. Isaiah 42:1-4...The Servant-as a faithful, patient redeemer... Matthew12:18-21
202. Isaiah 42:2...Meek and lowly... Matthew 11:28-30
203. Isaiah 42:3...He brings hope for the hopeless... John 4
204. Isaiah 42:4...The nations shall wait on His teachings... John 12:20-26
205. Isaiah 42:6...The Light (salvation) of the Gentiles...Luke 2:32
206. Isaiah 42:1,6...His is a Worldwide compassion... Matthew 28:19,20
207. Isaiah 42:7...Blind eyes opened... John 9:25-38
208. Isaiah 42:13-25...Messiah's actions at His second coming...Revelation
209. Isaiah 43:11...He is the only Savior... Acts 4:12
210. Isaiah 44:3...He will send the Spirit of God... John 16:7,13
211. Isaiah 45:23...He will be the Judge... John 5:22;Romans. 14:11
212. Isaiah 48:12...The First and the Last...John 1:30;Rev. 1:8,17
213. Isaiah 48:17...He came as a Teacher...John 3:2
214. Isaiah 49:1...Called from the womb-His humanity...Matthew 1:18
215. Isaiah 49:5...A Servant from the womb...Luke 1:31;Phil. 2:7
216. Isaiah 49:6...He is Salvation for Israel...Luke 2:29-32
217. Isaiah 49:6...He is the Light of the Gentiles...Acts 13:47
218. Isaiah 49:6...He is Salvation unto the ends of the earth... Acts 15:7-18
219. Isaiah 49:7...He is despised of the Nation... John 8:48-49
220. Isaiah 50:3...Heaven is clothed in black at His humiliation... Luke 23:44,45
221. Isaiah 50:4...He is a learned counselor for the weary... Matthew 11:28,29
222. Isaiah 50:5...The Servant bound willingly to obedience... Matthew 26:39
223. Isaiah 50:6a..."I gave my back to the smiters."... Matthew 27:26
224. Isaiah 50:6b...He was smitten on the cheeks... Matthew 26:67
225. Isaiah 50:6c...He was spat upon... Matthew 27:30
226. Isaiah 52:4-5...Suffered vicariously...Mark 15:3,4,27,28; Luke 23:1-25,32-34
227. Isaiah 52:7...To publish good tidings of peace... Luke 4:14,15
228. Isaiah 52:13...The Servant exalted...Acts 1:8-11; Ephesians 1:19-22
229. Isaiah 52:13...Behold, My Servant... Matthew 17:5; Phil. 2:5-8
230. Isaiah 52:14...The Servant shockingly abused... Luke 18:31-34; Matthew 26:67,68
231. Isaiah 52:15...Nations startled by message of the Servant... Romans. 15:18-21
232. Isaiah 52:15...His blood shed to make atonement for all... Rev. 1:5
233. Isaiah 53:1...His people would not believe Him... John 12:37-38
234. Isaiah 53:2a...He would grow up in a poor family.... Luke 2:7
235. Isaiah 53:2b...Appearance of an ordinary man... Phil. 2:7-8
236. Isaiah 53:3a...Despised.... Luke 4:28-29
237. Isaiah 53:3b...Rejected... Matthew 27:21-23
238. Isaiah 53:3c...Great sorrow and grief... Luke 19:41-42
239. Isaiah 53:3d...Men hide from being associated with Him... Mark 14:50-52
240. Isaiah 53:4a...He would have a healing ministry... Luke 6:17-19
241. Isaiah 53:4b...He would bear the sins of the world... 1 Pet. 2:24
242. Isaiah 53:4c...Thought to be cursed by God... Matthew 27:41-43
243. Isaiah 53:5a...Bears penalty for mankind's transgressions... Luke 23:33
244. Isaiah 53:5b...His sacrifice would provide peace between man and God... Col. 1:20
245. Isaiah 53:5c...His back would be whipped... Matthew 27:26
246. Isaiah 53:6a...He would be the sin-bearer for all mankind...Galatians 1:4
247. Isaiah 53:6b...God's will that He bear sin for all mankind... 1 John 4:10
248. Isaiah 53:7a...Oppressed and afflicted... Matthew 27:27-31
249. Isaiah 53:7b...Silent before his accusers... Matthew 27:12-14
250. Isaiah 53:7c...Sacrificial lamb... John 1:29
251. Isaiah 53:8a...Confined and persecuted... Matthew 26:47-27:31
252. Isaiah 53:8b...He would be judged... John 18:13-22
253. Isaiah 53:8c...Killed.... Matthew 27:35
254. Isaiah 53:8d...Dies for the sins of the world... 1 John 2:2
255. Isaiah 53:9a...Buried in a rich man's grave... Matthew 27:57
256. Isaiah 53:9b...Innocent and had done no violence... Mark 15:3
257. Isaiah 53:9c...No deceit in his mouth... John 18:38
258. Isaiah 53:10a...God's will that He die for mankind... John 18:11
259. Isaiah 53:10b...An offering for sin... Matthew 20:28
260. Isaiah 53:10c...Resurrected and live forever.... Mark 16:16
261. Isaiah 53:10d...He would prosper... John 17:1-5
262. Isaiah 53:11a...God fully satisfied with His suffering... John 12:27
263. Isaiah 53:11b...God's servant... Romans. 5:18-19
264. Isaiah 53:11c...He would justify man before God... Romans. 5:8-9
265. Isaiah 53:11d...The sin-bearer for all mankind... Hebrews 9:28
266. Isaiah 53:12a...Exalted by God because of his sacrifice... Matthew 28:18
267. Isaiah 53:12b...He would give up his life to save mankind... Luke 23:46
268. Isaiah 53:12c...Grouped with criminals... Luke 23:32
269. Isaiah 53:12d...Sin-bearer for all mankind... 2 Corinthians 5:21
270. Isaiah 53:12e...Intercede to God in behalf of mankind... Luke 23:34
271. Isaiah 55:1...Every one come who is thirsty...New Testament
272. Isaiah 55:3...Resurrected by God... Acts 13:34
273. Isaiah 55:4...A witness... John 18:37
274. Isaiah 55:5...Foreign nations come to God...Acts
275. Isaiah 59:15-16a...He would come to provide salvation... John 6:40
276. Isaiah 59:15-16b...Intercessor between man and God... Matthew 10:32
277. Isaiah 59:20...He would come to Zion as their Redeemer... Luke 2:38
278. Isaiah 60:1-3...Nations walk in the light...Luke 2:32
279. Isaiah 61:1-2a...The Spirit of God upon him... Matthew 3:16-17
280. Isaiah 61:1-2b...The Messiah would preach the good news... Luke 4:17-21
281. Isaiah 61:1-2c...Provide freedom from the bondage of sin and death... John 8:31-32
282. Isaiah 61:1-2...Proclaim a period of grace... John 5:24
283. Isaiah 62:1-2...Called by an new name...Luke 2:32, Revelation 3:12
284. Isaiah 62:11...Thy King Cometh, Entered Jerusalem on Colt...Matthew 21:7
285. Isaiah 63:1-3...A vesture dipped in blood...Revelation 19:13
286. Isaiah 63:8,9...Afflicted with the afflicted...Matthew 25:34-40
287. Isaiah 65:9...The elect shall inherit...Romans 11 5-7, Hebrews 7:14, Revelation 5:5
288. Isaiah 65:17-25...New heaven/New Earth...2 Peter 3:13, Revelation 21:1
289. Isaiah 66:18-19...All nations come to God...New Testament
290. Jeremiah23:5-6a...Descendant of David...Luke 3:23-31
291.  Jeremiah 23:5-6b...The Messiah would be God... John 13:13
292.  Jeremiah 23:5-6c...The Messiah would be both God and Man... 1 Tim. 3:16
293. Jeremiah 30:9...Born a King...John 18:37, Revelation 1:5
294. Jeremiah 31:15...Massacre of infants...Matthew 2:16-18
295.  Jeremiah 31:22...Born of a virgin... Matthew 1:18-20
296.  Jeremiah 31:31...The Messiah would be the new covenant... Matthew 26:28
297.  Jeremiah 33:14-15...Descendant of David... Luke 3:23-31
298.  Ezekiel17:22-24...Descendant of David... Luke 3:23-31
299. Ezekiel 21:26,27...The humble exalted...Luke 1:52
300.  Ezekiel34:23-24...Descendant of David... Matthew 1:1
301.  Daniel 2:34-35...Stone cut without hands...Acts 4:10-12
302.  Daniel 2:44,45...His Kingdom Triumphant...Luke 1:33, 1 Corinthians 15:24, Revelation 11:15
303.  Dan. 7:13-14a...He would ascend into heaven... Acts 1:9-11
304.  Dan. 7:13-14b...Highly exalted... Ephesians 1:20-22
305. Dan. 7:13-14c...His dominion would be everlasting... Luke 1:31-33
306. Daniel 7:27...Kingdom for the Saints...Luke 1:33, 1 Corinthians 15:24, Revelation 11:15
307. Dan. 9:24a...To make an end to sins... Galatians 1:3-5
308. Dan. 9:24b...He would be holy... Luke 1:35
309. Dan. 9:25...Announced to his people 483 years, to the exact day, after the decree to rebuild the city of Jerusalem... John 12:12-13
310. Dan. 9:26a...Killed... Matthew 27:35
311. Dan. 9:26b...Die for the sins of the world... Hebrews 2:9
312. Dan. 9:26c...Killed before the destruction of the temple... Matthew 27:50-51
313. Dan. 10:5-6...Messiah in a glorified state... Rev. 1:13-16
314. Hosea 3:5...Israel restored...John 18:37, Romans 11:25-27
315. Hosea 11:1, Numbers 24:8...Flight to Egypt...Matthew 2:14
316. Hosea 13:14...He would defeat death... 1 Corinthians 15:55-57
317. Joel 2:28-32...Promise of the Spirit...Acts 2:17-21, Romans 10:13
318. Joel 2:32...Offer salvation to all mankind... Romans. 10:12-13
319. Micah 2:12-13...Israel Regathered...John 10:14,26
320. Micah 4:1-8...The Kingdom established - place of Birth Bethlehem...Luke 1:33, Matthew 2:1, Luke 2:4,10,11
321. Micah 5:2a...Born in Bethlehem... Matthew 2:1-2
322.  Micah 5:2b...God's servant... John 15:10
323.  Micah 5:2c...from everlasting... John 8:58
324.  Haggai 2:6-9...He would visit the second Temple... Luke 2:27-32
325.  Haggai 2:23...Descendant of Zerubbabel... Luke 3:23-27
326. Joel 2:28-32...Promise of the Spirit...Acts 2:17-21, Romans 10:13
327. Amos 8:9...The Sun Darkened...Matthew 24:29, Acts 2:20, Revelation 6:12
328. Amos 9:11-12...Restoration of tabernacle...Acts 14:16-18
329. Habakkuk 2:14...Earth filled with knowledge of the glory of the Lord...Romans 11:26, Revelation 21:23-26
330. Zechariah 2:10-13...The Lamb on the Throne...Revelation 5:13, 6:9, 21:24
331. Zechariah 3:8...God's servant... John 17:4
332. Zechariah 6:12-13...Priest and King... Hebrews 8:1
333. Zechariah 9:9a...Greeted with rejoicing in Jerusalem... Matthew 21:8-10
334. Zechariah 9:9b...Beheld as King... John 12:12-13
335.  Zechariah 9:9c...The Messiah would be just... John 5:30
336.  Zechariah 9:9d...The Messiah would bring salvation... Luke 19:10
337.  Zechariah 9:9e...The Messiah would be humble... Matthew 11:29
338.  Zechariah 9:9f...Presented to Jerusalem riding on a donkey... Matthew 21:6-9
339.  Zechariah 10:4...The cornerstone... Ephesians 2:20
340.   Zechariah 11:4-6a...At His coming, Israel to have unfit leaders... Matthew 23:1-4
341.  Zechariah 11:4-6b...Rejection causes God to remove His protection.. Luke 19:41-44
342.  Zechariah 11:4-6c...Rejected in favor of another king... John 19:13-15
343.   Zechariah 11:7...Ministry to "poor," the believing remnant... Matthew 9:35-36
344.  Zechariah 11:8a...Unbelief forces Messiah to reject them... Matthew 23:33
345. Zechariah 11:8b...Despised... Matthew 27:20
346.  Zechariah 11:9...Stops ministering to the those who rejected Him... Matthew 13:10-11
347.  Zechariah 11:10-11a...Rejection causes God to remove protection... Luke 19:41-44
348.  Zechariah 11:10-11b...The Messiah would be God... John 14:7
349.  Zechariah 11:12-13a...Betrayed for thirty pieces of silver... Matthew 26:14-15
350.  Zechariah 11:12-13b...Rejected... Matthew 26:14-15
351.  Zechariah 11:12-13c...Thirty pieces of silver thrown into the house of the Lord... Matthew 27:3-5
352.  Zechariah 11:12-13d...The Messiah would be God... John 12:45
353.  Zechariah 12:10a...The Messiah's body would be pierced... John 19:34-37
354.  Zechariah 12:10b...The Messiah would be both God and man... John 10:30
355.  Zechariah 12:10c...The Messiah would be rejected... John 1:11
356.  Zechariah 13:7a...God's will He die for mankind... John 18:11
357.  Zechariah 13:7b...A violent death... Matthew 27:35
358.  Zechariah 13:7c...Both God and man.. John 14:9
359.  Zechariah 13:7d...Israel scattered as a result of rejecting Him... Matthew 26:31-56
360.  Malachi 3:1a...Messenger to prepare the way for Messiah... Matthew 11:10
361.  Malachi 3:1b...Sudden appearance at the temple... Mark 11:15-16
362.  Malachi 3:1c...Messenger of the new covenant... Luke 4:43
363.  Malachi 3:3...Our Sins Are Purged...Luke 1:78, John 1:9; 12:46, 2 Peter 1:19, Revelation 2:28; 19:11-16; 22:16
364. Malachi 4:5...Forerunner in the spirit of Elijah... Matthew 3:1-2
365. Malachi 4:6...Forerunner would turn many to righteousness... Luke 1:16-17

Interestingly, bluejelly, the bulk of these prophecies come from the prophets, who were murdered by the Jews for admonishing them.

Thus we get:

QuoteMatthew 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
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Anonymous

Man, I can't believe the things you guys argue about on this site when your supposedly fighting the same enemy.

This stuff is such obvious bullshit. F**K YOUR GOD.

Anyone who believes in the rapture of christianity or any other religion.... YOU'VE BEEN HAD.

My father used to tell me live and let live when it came to accepting others religious beliefs as long as they didn't push it on others. I used to live by that for a long time. Eventually I realized belief in this crap not matter what the religion is a huge part of why we are in this mess.

You have been had by the jew. Get over it.

I used to check out this site all the time. Its become a joke with all this infighting.

We all know the solution to the problem humanity is facing and it ain't praying to a good, faith in a god or retarded beliefs like some clown is going to come back and fix it all.

Some of you religious types seem like smart people. Seem like...

ZS

GordZilla

We've been Had?  And apparently the Jews been "had' with the same religion they invented?? You cannot comment on how it is the virtually the only resistance the Jew has ever faced has came from Christian hands. You can't explain how it is that in Father Coughlin's time  (and way before) he found audience in the common people when speaking about the Jew, almost solely because these 'common' people were also Christians and ready to listen. You can't explain their NEED to conquer and dismantle this faith of Christianity since day one, and their utter contempt of this man named Jesus, an invention of theirs?  Understanding that Christianity today is not what it has been in the past, today it most certainly is co-opted by the Jew, so much so it's NOW called 'JudeoChristianity'. This was not always the case. Many of the best men to come forth and speak against the Jew, also happened to be Christians. I actually knew old folks, who were 'Jew-wise' but not from reading material on the internet, they were 'Jew-wise' simply as a product of their faith in Jesus, the world used to house many of these types of Christians, do you deny that? For that is the point. Father Coughlin found a huge audience in the 1930's manly because of this fact. That's precisely why they MUST destroy His message - because His true message will destroy them. And frankly it's the only tool/vice known to man to ever fight against them, again; their invention??

I used to be agnostic, till about 1994, when being 'Jew-wise' myself made me reconsider some things that I immaturely and steadfastly dismissed. Hearing my great Aunt talk about the 'Jews' in much the same way as we do now, except she never had this kind of education about them , nope she only went by the words of Jesus and saw for herself how those words aligned perfectly with what she experienced about them in real life.  That made me reconsider some things I dismissed readily before. I found my distrust of God, and disbelief was rooted more in my distrust and disbelief of man's church. It's the organized religion that has failed in delivering His message, and they still do today, but His message has not failed - it's still accurate.

How could Cicero be talking about the 'Jews' when the word was not used in his time? So who was he referring to, for he could not have used the nonexistent word 'Jews'. I would wager it was the Pharisees, but it was certainly not the word 'Jew'. You might want to check your source for that.

Do I feel God's love? No not directly. I don't expect to neither. I am God-fearing, I know He is there, I fear HIs Judgment. I Sin. I am not perfect, far from it. But as for His Love, one could say it's all around you, in the present, it's in the beauty of this world and how it is that our souls are here to enjoy what little of that beauty there is left to enjoy. Too simple? Works for me. Especially considering we have no other way still to explain away just how we are. How we came to be. Evolution is also a belief, and will remain so despite science's (and the Jew's) best efforts. Neither can be proven soundly. But God gave us a clue, a few really, but one in particular stands out - it is, in fact, the Jew himself. They are testament to Christianity, so of course they hate anything that stands to reveal this fact unto anyone. Truth is what they hate most, lies are what they promote most vigorously.  It's obviously they spent a lot of time instilling distrust and disbelief in Jesus, and His faithful. It is obvious why too. You can ignore that, but it did happen. You can ignore that of the 109 times they been ousted it has been mostly by Christian hands, and you can ignore that too. You can ignore that fact that many Christians of old were 'Jew wise' but that also happened. (which is also evidence of it happening at an individual level, even when the Churches of yesteryear turned against His message - it was often the 'common' folk who recognized this departure and in return turned on the Church - ignore that as well)

So you can think whatever you want, I still maintain it's quite obvious we are dealing with a spiritual battle here. No one has a problem calling them 'evil' here, but of course 'evil' cannot mean of Satan - it must mean something else , right?

Hear listen to this, this is not a direct argument for the points I'm trying to make here, just merely something for you to ponder, to consider. No one here has all the answers, but assuming others don't because their faith happens to be 'represented', so-to-speak, by a false institution does not mean their individual faith is false, it only means the institution is. (More proof that it is on an individual level, and it is with the faithful here - no doubt. I, personally, cannot find a modern Church in my neighborhood that supports this message, and again just as predicted by the same man they hate so much);

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THEY know He's real too, all too well.

Anonymous

Save it man. I ain't getting sucked into some totally bullshit debate on religion. Cuz that's what it is, BULLSHIT.

Thanks for typing all that crap though.

ZS

GordZilla

Quote from: "Zionist Sniper"Save it man. I ain't getting sucked into some totally bullshit debate on religion. Cuz that's what it is, BULLSHIT.

Thanks for typing all that crap though.

ZS


lol, yup.

i.e.;  you can't address that, but no problem. You 'seemed' smart there for a second too, seemed...

 :D:D

Anonymous

Look, SAVE IT. These endless debates, discussions, arguments are BULLSHIT.

We all know the jewish population needs to be taken out or all the "goy" are done, period.  We all know the reasons why. Thats the only thing that needs to be discussed at this point.

Chat away with all the BS details with someone else.

ZS

GordZilla

Fine, but you came in here in the first place-just so you know- with bold certainty and bad language to boot. As if to say; "here's my opinion;  yours are all wrong, see the strong language I used? I must be right ..but don't challenge me on it". If you had not wanted to engage then perhaps you shouldn't have.  If you do not wish to join the debate, it's simple ; don't.

As for the rest of what you had to say, I agree, but that's again precisely why I'm in this debate; to illustrate, as much as you dislike it, that Christianity can be used effectively against them as well or better than they use it's modern and poisoned form against us. In fact, of all religions and cultures none has been historically more effective. But piss on that cause it's all 'bullshit' and ' F%#k  God', right?

Whereas the opposite is true also; atheism, or just lack of faith in general,  has historically helped the Jew, in fact they were indeed the ones who promoted the hatred of faith thru the roof and the corruption of the remainder of it is also of their doing. They benefit most in countries and/or cultures that are lacking in a shared belief, historically speaking again -this is true. Even if I wasn't Christian, nor faithful at all, I would still use the phrase 'Jesus loves you' when faced with persecution from the Jews - AS THEY HATE NOTHING MORE THAN CHRIST, NOTHING.

You don't have to believe, and clearly you do not, but pissing on others here that do is disgraceful in my opinion. It accomplishes nothing but more divide and more help for our SHARED enemy.

You can't know for sure there is not a God, yet you are still sure of this. To me that is very simple minded. Your belief is driven by what exactly? How you feel? What your dad told you? What? Science and evolutionary theory won't cut it, we've been down that road many times on this forum, you can research why.  So the only thing left is simple bias, and that's fine, but when you clearly CAN'T know for sure than perhaps it's best not to insult others who happen to believe. They, at least, have the Jews themselves to site, and evolution has a hard time explaining them as well, but we have an explanation that's still aptly fitting some 2000 years later. Even if you want to say 'it's not that old' than would 500 years suffice? It still stands unchallenged and unsurpassed. Also it has wakened many, historically, to the Jew. Far more than ANYTHING else ever has - PERIOD. So yeah it's all bullshit and of no use right? You don't agree, that's fine, but respect others who disagree with you -unless and of couse you are willing to prove your bold, and I might add; callous, assertions.

Anonymous

Holy f*^@%$@^&&*#'in crap....  like to hear yourself talk do ya...

The reason for coming in strong is the very reason I rarely come to this site any longer. You cats constantly go in circles with this garbage ! Its an incredible waste of time.

I never said there was no creator, I said religion is bullshit. I'm not going to let you suck me into this stuff.

How are we taking these asshole out? Period. What have ya got?

Discuss this religious crap with like minded buddies who "believe".

ZS

GordZilla

Was this not you; "F**K YOUR GOD" ?  So clearly you said a little more than 'religion is bullshit'. And I agree with you; modern organized religion is bullshit. But that's not exactly how you worded that originally, is it? Check again.

I talk to be understood, clearly you miss that though, I'm not as concise of a writer that I wish I was but never-the-less I respond to comments when engaged, or when blanket and unfair statements are made. You don't comment on the content of what I write , and that is fine, but don't get angry because I did respond to you. There is no sense in that, we are on the same team.

GordZilla

And by the way, I was commenting on exactly that; what we can do to get rid of these assholes, as you put it. I believe Christianity does have some remedies for these creatures, I do believe this is well proven, I do believe slash and dash comments against the faithful on this site only help the Jew. Which is why I offer the same respect back to those on this site who do not have a faith. I respect Yeager and Giuliani, even though both do not have faith. I can still respect that. But you have to know many 'Jew-wise' people do. Many Muslims do, many Buddhists do etc etc. How does it help to refer to all that 'stuff' as being bullshit full stop? Answer; it doesn't, well it doesn't help us. It does help others though, which was another point I was commenting on.

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Timothy_Fitzpatrick

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Quote from: "Zionist Sniper"Man, I can't believe the things you guys argue about on this site when your supposedly fighting the same enemy.

This stuff is such obvious bullshit. F**K YOUR GOD.

Anyone who believes in the rapture of christianity or any other religion.... YOU'VE BEEN HAD.

This rapture doctrine you speak of is a minority belief in the larger Christian community, specific to the evangelical movement. Again, showing your lack of knowledge of Christianity.

QuoteMy father used to tell me live and let live when it came to accepting others religious beliefs as long as they didn't push it on others. I used to live by that for a long time. Eventually I realized belief in this crap not matter what the religion is a huge part of why we are in this mess.

You have been had by the jew. Get over it.

Again, can you demonstrate how Jews, as a group, brought Christianity to gentiles?

QuoteWe all know the solution to the problem humanity is facing and it ain't praying to a good, faith in a god or retarded beliefs like some clown is going to come back and fix it all.

Some of you religious types seem like smart people. Seem like...

ZS

Well all know the solution? No, tell us please.

As for you bashing this forum, perhaps you just don't like that people like Giuliani can't get away with spreading disinfo and lies, cause that is all he does. This thread is very appropriate for what we are talking about. Giuliani presents a nihilist conspiratorial view. Don't expect that he won't get a reaction. It is an radical view (typical Jewish leftist movements), even by conspiracy standards. In the Protocols of Zion, the Pharisees admit nihilism is a mechanism for them. You should be encouraging reaction so as to openly debate and, hopefully, come to some truth.
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Timothy_Fitzpatrick

Quote from: "GordZilla"I talk to be understood, clearly you miss that though, I'm not as concise of a writer that I wish I was but never-the-less I respond to comments when engaged, or when blanket and unfair statements are made. You don't comment on the content of what I write , and that is fine, but don't get angry because I did respond to you. There is no sense in that, we are on the same team.


Gord, I am seeing a pattern developing among the anti-religionists on this board. They avoid responding to well thought out arguments and explanations. MSMD and his pony were always doing that. I don't recall them one time ever addressing something directly. Meanwhile, we tend to respond to their direct arguments and questions, even breaking them down point by point.

And I have noticed that you and I spend a lot of time writing lengthy posts only to have them ignored and glossed over. Are the expositors weak or are their arguments weak?

The most hilarious thing about all this is that anti-religionists think they are so objective. As if being atheist/agnostic automatically makes you objective. A little self-deception have we?
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GordZilla

Yeah I do feel that sometimes my posts are' glossed over', but I do not know that for sure, so I try not to dwell on that. 'Try', that is. Nor do I know that they are worthy of anything more than that, I'm just another human with a keyboard and opinion afterall.  I don't have an issue with religion being debated, in fact, as you know, I often stay clear of it. I only jump in when broad and disparaging terms are used against it - more aptly; against the faithful here. These attacks are usually uncalled for, but not always. However they are way too general, in my opinion, and as I stated before no one can know for sure, not our camp nor theirs, so it's a bit hypocritical to claim you do, or that the other side is just 'full of it'.

And about that, the 'sides' reference, I tend not to think of atheist posters here as 'anti-religious', nor 'anti-faith' nor even 'anti-God'. Most times, they are not in their hearts. Most, I feel, don't actually hold that much resentment for 'Jew-wise' faithful posters, that is my hope anyways. Often, I feel, they get the sense that we are trying to 'convert' them so I try my best to take a defensive stance, most times.  I understand that feeling, I can relate to where they are coming from. I try my best to deflect the initial 'bible thumper', broad brush attacks and bring it back the original debate itself -again; 'try' being the opperative word.  It's not always easy, they have good reason to distrust the church and I cannot defend the institution, but I do believe -whole heartily- that the words of, and belief in, Jesus can indeed help our collective cause.

Assumption looks bad on both 'sides', and I think we're all guilty of it sometimes, but  I know of only one here who seemed to harvest a real hate for the faithful posters, and that would be 'Yo Mama'. Even MSMD does not attack the messenger directly, most times  ;) , he instead debates the topic. Yo Mama used 'attack and smear' tactics constantly, ignoring rebuttals and continuing with his smear campaign with his next post. That is what I, personally, take issue with; The belligerent, blatantly bias and blanket attacks.  

I don't see Zionist Sniper as on the 'other camp',so-to-speak. I think  he wants the same as we do; to finally expose and rid ourselves of this plague. It was only his choice of words that I took issue with. I'm sure the person behind the posts, well ...  I'm sure I'd find little reason not to sit and have a few beers with him. I bet we'd discover that we have 98% in common.
 :D:D


Ok it may seem obvious to you that I'm trying to mend bridges here, and you'd be right; I am. I think it's needed, we have to stop drawing these lines,  myself included. But I know most of us are very compassionate about what we believe in and what we know to be true - how can we not be??  We are among the best and brightest of the free thinkers in the world -right here at this forum. Of course passion will come into play. And of course our guard is up, this seems to be unavoidable. It's really is a sad state, but unfortunately it comes with the territory.

checkitb4uwreckit

Quote from: "GordZilla"Yup, here we go again, it's obvious Christianity is pure bullshit ... wtf?

Yes, it is bullshit, like the 1000's of other religions men have invented.

Quote from: "GordZilla"The very first man to call the Jews out and the best at it ever since is pure bullshit? What they wrote that?

As bluejelly pointed out, he wasn't the first and not the best. You are making factually incorrect statements. Typical of Christians.


Quote from: "GordZilla"If not for Christian's resistance to the Jew, over the centuries, the Jews would be a lot further ahead than they are now.

How so? They currently control the world and Christians are gleefully aiding them in their quest for planetary dominance.

QuotePeople were much more 'Jew wise' when Christianity was strong and true then they are today, even despite our best efforts - and that's a fact. They worked hard to destroy that fact, and have all but succeeded now -thanks again to the power of their mass media and their curroption of the church.

The Jews couldn't corrupt "the church" without willing traitors within the church. Why has your god not punished these traitors? In the bible, god directly intervenes in human affairs and has people killed and sends plagues to wipe out entire cities and so forth. Why can't he just do that today? Pretty damned peculiar that god "intervention" stopped precisely when we developed the ability to investigate, report, and record these things for posterity.

QuoteIf you honestly think they have just 'evolved' that way, you are really missing the boat here. It's obvious these 'people' are not the same as the rest of humanity, not in the slightest! They are something entirely different, and not understanding that will lead to history repeating.

So if Jews didn't evolve the way they are then you are saying that your god deliberately created them for the purpose of tormenting humanity? Now why would he do that if he's a loving god? Jews didn't exist forever. There was hundreds of thousands of years of human existence before Judaism was invented. So, after hundreds of thousands years of sitting in the sky watching "his creation" loitering around the earth, one day your god just randomly decides to create Jews and Judaism to persecute all other peoples? If so, then your god is not all-loving, but is, in fact, a monster. Why would you praise and worship such a god?

QuoteThey are indeed Satan's seed,

If your god created everything then your god created satan and knew all the evils satan would perpetrate beforehand since he is supposedly omniscient. If your god is omnipotent (all-powerful) then why doesn't he just obliterate "the devil"? In fact, why did he CREATE the devil in the first place since he is claimed to have created everything in existence. Do you see how nonsensical the satan concept is if the all-knowing, all-powerful, all-loving god you believe in is real?

QuoteSatan's first trick is to convince you he doesn't exist.

This is ridiculous. This is the equivalent to saying: the invisible leprechaun's first trick is to convince you he doesn't exist, or the invisible unicorn's first trick is to convince you it doesn't exist. Do you believe in leprechauns and unicorns? Why not? They're invisible, and you're being tricked by not believing in them. So you better believe in them gordzilla. ;)

QuoteHis minions are doing this work for him by destroying any notion of 'God' amongst the youth, and destroying any religion of God from within.

Then why doesn't your god just appear to everyone to bolster our belief in him/it? He could appear to everybody simultaneously and then everyone would believe in him, that simple. If your god is so concerned with people simply "believing" in him, then why does he make it so hard by not providing any proof that he exists? He supposedly appears to people in the bible on many occasions, why doesn't he do it now? Obviously because he is just a figment of your imagination and the bible is just fanciful stories, just like the Mormon bible, the Koran and the Hindu bible.

QuoteNow others have taken up that cause for them (knowingly and unknowingly)- hatred of God has all but become a fashion statement now. But all that aside, Jesus still remains an anomaly, one who understands the Jew better than anyone on this forum, people living in the 'information age' , and He's the one who's hated above all else by our collective enemy. Yup, bullshit. You just keep believing that.

You keep repeating this. Your whole belief in the supernatural Jesus seems to stem from the fact that Jews "hate" him. Jews hated Idi Amin too, why don't you worship him as your savior? Jews hate Hitler and propagate falsehoods against him 10000 times more than Jesus, why are you not singing his praises day and night like you do Jesus? Jews hate the leader of Hezbollah, Hassan Nasrallah, why don't you convert to Islam and worship him? You are a man in need of a savior, that's the only reason you still "have faith" in Jesus. And that's all it is "faith". Faith is pointless. I could have faith in invisible leprechauns.

QuoteI understand well why people would steer away from organized religion, I do too, it's corrupted thru and thru BUT Jesus' message has remained, and still does. A true follower of His word doesn't succumb to the Jew and never has. And that's why the message of Jesus has all but disappeared from their, now controlled,  organized 'Chirstian' religion.

And your god supposedly knew this would happen beforehand and did nothing to stop it. In fact, he planned it right? Since he is omniscient. So why are you even worrying about it if this is all part of god's magical plan? You can't say god doesn't tamper with free will because he does in the bible many times and intervenes directly. You claim god is omniscient and has everything already planned out and knows everything that is going to happen before it happens. When someone prays they are actually trying to change what god already has in mind.  If you pray thinking that "I have this cancer in me, god please heals this cancer"... god put it there in the first place since he created everything and knew you'd get it before you were born... and if he changes it that means he's not omniscient because that means he's changed his mind which means he made an error. So if god changes the future he admits he's not omniscient, and if he can't change his mind then that means there are limitations on his power and thus he's not all-powerful.


QuoteAnd please, finally and once and for all, understand the 'Jews' of the Bible are not the "Jews" of today. The word wasn't even used, 'Judean' was, but the Jews of today were not Judeans, they are the Pharisees. Understanding that is key.

If that's so, then who wrote these passages and who is god commanding to do these things?

Isaiah 61:5 ~ "Thou shalt also suck the milk of the Gentiles, and shalt suck the breast of kings..."

Isaiah 61:5 ~ "And strangers shall stand and feed your flocks, and the sons of the alien shall be your plowmen and your vinedressers." (gentile servitude to the jews)

Isaiah 60:5 ~ "the wealth of the nations shall come unto thee." (Jewish world dominion)

Deuteronomy 23:20 ~ "Unto a stranger thou mayest lend upon usury; but unto thy brother thou shalt not lend upon usury: that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all that thou settest thine hand to in the land whither thou goest to possess it." (Malevolent Jewish god commands jews to lend usury to strangers but not to fellow jews)

Deuteronomy 7:2~ "And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor show mercy unto them." (malevolent jewish god commands jews to wipe out gentiles)

Pretty clear Jews wrote these passages and attributed it to their tribal god (same god you worship) so they could go around murdering and exploiting gentiles and justifying their behavior by saying "god" commanded them to do it.

QuoteWell first off, sorry He didn't check with you first, good luck with that. But secondly He is the keeper of souls, so what is 'killing' to Him?

So what would be the point of god creating humans at all... just so he can have some kicks murdering us? essentially you are saying god created humans (when he didn't have to) and then murdered his creation for fun. Why didn't he just create everyone perfect and in heaven with him? Why create anything at all, what would be the point? See how stupid religion is?

QuoteYour hatred (or disbelief) of God whether admitted or implied  is understandable, but it's a product of theirs. God is not, and that's the very thing they fear the most; His wraith.

Evidently Jews don't fear "his wrath" because "he" hasn't done a damn thing to stop them, not to mention supposedly created them in the first place (if he created everything), imbued them with the traits they have, and planned out the history of this earth before hand (omniscient). Thus your god (if he exists) planned the Jew's reign of terror according to your own doctrines.

QuoteWhether knowingly or not; they are very proud of you, their product; a good and faithless goyim.

Riiight, I suppose not believing Kukulcan (the mayan wind god also known as feathered serpent god), or Minerva (Greek goddess of wisdom), or Aphrodite, Osiris, Horus, Isis, AmenRa, Zeus, Maia, Allah, or the thousands of other gods humans have invented, is also benefiting Jews in some way? Oh... but wait, you don't believe in any of those gods now do you? You are an atheist when it comes to other gods. I guess you're benefiting Jews too by not believing in Zeus. Next you'll claim that not believing in santa clause, the tooth fairy, or leprechauns is benefiting Jews. Your claims are nonsensical.

And what are the 'righteous christian believers' doing? Sending millions of $$$$$ to Israel. :clap:





QuoteThis is not written as an attempt to offend  anyone, but in defense of those that do have faith -and in whatever that faith may be.  Hopefully you can understand how some might take offense, on a Jew wise  board, when their faiths are simply (and sometimes arrogantly) dismissed. We need numbers, not infighting.

"faith" by definition is believing in something without any evidence. I don't do that because i'm not an idiot.  ;)

checkitb4uwreckit

Quote from: "GordZilla"We've been Had?  And apparently the Jews been "had' with the same religion they invented?? You cannot comment on how it is the virtually the only resistance the Jew has ever faced has came from Christian hands.

And I suppose you are going to lead this Christian revivalist movement against the Jew? What are you doing wasting your time on a forum then?

QuoteYou can't explain how it is that in Father Coughlin's time  (and way before) he found audience in the common people when speaking about the Jew, almost solely because these 'common' people were also Christians and ready to listen.

And yet Jews still managed to drag America into a genocidal war against Germany. Why did your all-powerful god allow that to happen and for the bad guys to win that war? He could stop all this madness in a heartbeat. He doesn't because he doesn't exist. And you know it.

QuoteYou can't explain their NEED to conquer and dismantle this faith of Christianity since day one,

The jewish religion demands the punishment of "heathens" and commands murder of non-Jews, whether Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Pagans, or Atheists. Christians are nothing special. And today, I don't really see Jews trying to dismantle Christianity at all. Why would they? Christianity serves the Jew completely and is their main power base of support in America, and Western countries.

QuoteI found my distrust of God, and disbelief was rooted more in my distrust and disbelief of man's church. It's the organized religion that has failed in delivering His message, and they still do today, but His message has not failed - it's still accurate.

Why can't your all-powerful god "deliver his message" himself and beam it directly into the minds of every person on earth so they get it straight and clear, no confusion? instead, we are being told by the likes of religionists like you, that this all-powerful god's most efficient way of getting his eternal message across to humanity is through a 2000 year old book which is the culmination of a bunch of random writings and manuscripts of men cobbled together into a book by other men at the council of nicea in 325 AD, which then gets translated, re-translated into other languages, and inevitably mistranslated. And the chapters and verses in this book are so vague that if you ask 100 Christians what a particular passage means you'll get 100 different answers. Not to mention all of the errors, impossibilities, and absurdities contained within this text.

And god waited 198,000 years of human existence before commissioning this farcical text (sitting in the sky for nearly 4.5 billion years before finally creating humans). Meaning everyone on earth who existed before the creation of Christianity (which says if you don't accept jesus as your savior you go to hell) is roasting in god's personal torture chamber. And you actually believe this ridiculous fable?  :shock:

QuoteI am God-fearing, I know He is there, I fear HIs Judgment.

No, you don't know he is there. You believe he is based on absolutely no evidence. Do you believe in leprechauns? If not, give me the reasons why you don't believe in leprechauns but do believe in an invisible man in the sky.

Quoteit's in the beauty of this world and how it is that our souls are here to enjoy what little of that beauty there is left to enjoy.

Souls are impossible. For example, our senses of smell, hearing, tasting, seeing and touch are all connected to and activated by our brains.While alive you can lose your sense of smell, taste, vision (go blind), hearing (go deaf) and touch. How could that be possible if we have souls? Shouldn't souls operate as like a back-up system for those senses? When we die our brains don't magically float up into the stars, they stay right with your dead body. Moreover, what about people who die as babies? Their brains are not developed enough to think, talk, or comprehend anything around them. Are you saying that their "souls" are stuck like this for all eternity? And they didn't even have the opportunity to "accept jesus" or even make up their mind about religion. So I guess there must be a lot of babies and small children roasting in hell for all eternity huh?

It's absolutely ridiculous nonsense.

QuoteEspecially considering we have no other way still to explain away just how we are. How we came to be.

You haven't explained it either. You've just accredited everything to an invisible, fictional entity. I could just as easily claim that a giant invisible squid who lives in the center of the moon created everything. And then ask you to disprove this. Unless you somehow get into a spaceship, land on the moon, and drill to the center of the moon's core, you wouldn't be able to disprove my claim. And even if you did that I've stated that this giant squid is invisible so you wouldn't be able to see it. When you go in to feel if it's actually there and don't feel anything I simply say, "well it's also intangible." I've simply placed this fictional entity I've invented outside the parameters of physical evidence so you can't disprove it. That's how idiotic theist arguments are.

QuoteEvolution is also a belief, and will remain so despite science's (and the Jew's) best efforts. Neither can be proven soundly.

No, evolution is not a belief, it's a scientific theory based on rational evidence, proofs and data. Species have proven to have evolved over time. What's incredibly hypocritical about your statement though, is that IF evolution were just a "belief" like you say, then why would that be a problem for you? You have no problem believing in an invisible god based on zero evidence, yet you choose not to believe in evolution? Why not, blind belief is something you openly embrace with your religious superstitions, yet suddenly you're a "skeptic" who requires untenable amounts of evidence when it comes to evolution. You wouldn't even be able to discern what good evidence is if you saw it, and you just reject the evidence given so you can go on believing in your fairy tale sky daddy. You're not a scientist so who are you to dismiss the evidence evolutionary biologists give? You are claiming to know better than they do about a field they are experts in. Absurd.

That discredits you completely.

QuoteBut God gave us a clue, a few really, but one in particular stands out - it is, in fact, the Jew himself.

So the existence of Jews is proof of "god"? Essentially, you are claiming, that your god created Jews, and sent them on a campaign of destruction, as a sign that he exists? Do you realize how fucking retarded this sounds? Why doesn't he just appear to everybody to prove he exists and is real? Instead he sends down some killer Yids to torment the world and hopes that will strike the fear of god in them?  :think:  Dumbest thing I've ever heard.

QuoteIt's obviously they spent a lot of time instilling distrust and disbelief in Jesus, and His faithful.

Books tell us that Leprechauns are a myth. I guess Jews are trying to instill disbelief in Leprechauns and their faithful believers.  :roll: everybody better start believing in Leprechauns, it will take care of the jewish problem real quick!

QuoteIt is obvious why too. You can ignore that, but it did happen. You can ignore that of the 109 times they been ousted it has been mostly by Christian hands, and you can ignore that too. You can ignore that fact that many Christians of old were 'Jew wise' but that also happened. (which is also evidence of it happening at an individual level, even when the Churches of yesteryear turned against His message - it was often the 'common' folk who recognized this departure and in return turned on the Church - ignore that as well)

And you can ignore the mountains of fallacies and holes in your farcical and obviously false belief system, and the astonishing bullshit that you constantly pull out of thin air as I have illustrated above.

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Thank you checkitb4uwreckit for taking the time to logically and truthfully responding to this. In complete agreement with what you wrote.

I just don't have the patience to do it any longer.

With ridiculous responses like "jews are being fooled by a religion they created" ?  ARGH f#***#&&@^%k  !!!!

THE ONLY PEOPLE BEING FOOLED ARE THE GOY, PERIOD.

Can't believe I just had to type that sentence to a self professed jew wise individual. FECK, FECK FECK FECK. I've had it with this bullshit just as much as I've had it with the jews and their bullshit.

Anyone who is truly jew wise would only be asking one question. How are the guy going to take these people out before they take us out?

People will argue all day long on this site (and others) over crossed T's and doted I's. And I'd bet a huge amount of that is being directed by some isreali firster prick on the payroll. They have an army of people to come on forums like this to do just that, AND AND AND, we all know this fact !

Yet people play into it all the time because they just gotta be right, got to get my point out, got to be heard ....

I can't believe the huge percentage of the jew aware people who are STILL FOOLED by this stuff !!

The only thing you idiots must do is figure out how to take these people out or your dead.

I barely had the patience to type this checkitb4uwreckit.

Your dead you idiots, don't you get it?

I'll say it again. F**K your god and religion(s). Stupid fools.

I'm not glossing over either. I'm not even ignoring. I'm SICK TO DEATH AT HOW STUPID THE AWARE ACTIVE GOY ARE. This isn't a movement, its a joke. Your dead, get it?

And don't any of you aware idiots take this as an attempt to incite you to respond and engage the topics your spinning your wheels on like you constantly do, but you will.

And the first lame attempt to restrain themselves will be a question like, "ok smartass, what's your plan then"?  Fools. You cats can't even stay on the one and only topic you should be.

ZS