Caroline Yeager VS Charles Giuliani

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

CSR, Gordo, thoughts?

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God of the gaps is a type of theological fallacy in which gaps in scientific knowledge are taken to be evidence or proof of God's existence. The term was invented by Christian theologians not to discredit theism but rather to discourage reliance on teleological arguments for God's existence —Jewpedia

[checkitb4uwreckit]

MSMD said:

You're just another idiot who can't defend the Christian fairy tale using rational arguments so you bring up irrelevant stuff about Jews hating Christianity. Hey, guess what, Jews hate Hitler 1,000,000 times more than Christianity and have convinced the world that he is the embodiment of evil through lies and deceit. Yet, you have nothing good to say about Hitler and haven't adopted National Socialism simply because Jews hate it have you? No, you are a liberal, "anti-racist", pro-immigrant, marxist activist.

You see, this is where I disagree with those that defend you, MSMD, and say you can debate with a level head. They attempt to demonstrate this by saying, "at least he is not as bad as Yo_Mama." But the truth is, you are just as bad as him. Personal attacks, ad hominems, and calling people the very things you yourself are guilty of. You call MoeFoe a Marxist! Really? Hah, you expect us to buy this? You are only fooling yourself.

I know it's going to be tough for you, as a Marxist-Freudian-Nihilist, to admit that you have so much more in common with Jews than Christians do, but it is reality. And please, refrain from trying to pretend to be a National Socialist when you aren't. Yo Mama tried to pull that crap awhile back when we asked him about the economic situation in Nazi Germany and he ran from the board with his wittle tail between his legs.

The only reason I can see why you would pretend to be a National Socialist is in an attempt to fend off any suspicion that you are indeed what you appear to be, and that is a Cultural Marxist crypto-Kike.

Riiight, not believing in the invisible deities proves I'm a "cultural marxist cypto-Kike".  :roll:  According to your own logic, since you don't believe in Zeus, Horus, Thor, Osiris, Aphrodite, or Kulkulcan, you are a "cultural marxist crypto-Kike". Good one faggot! :clap:  :lol:

[checkitb4uwreckit]

This is the extraordinary level of "evidence" that Kikezpatrick throws around for his claims:

Another thing: "Truth Hertz" a play on words? Indeed, but notice the spelling of hurts. Tz is a common ending to Jewish names and words. Coincidence? viewtopic.php?p=61200#p61200

A great case could be made for sterilizing people like you Tim. Do humanity a favor and go jump off a bridge.  

[checkitb4uwreckit]

what you need is to be shown unconditional love, and I myself have failed to do this for you, and so I am sorry.  If you have some tumor on your body that makes you feel less than a full human being, then take hope in all the healing and restoration that Christ did.  If you pass judgment, you will have a "glorified body" to dwell eternally in.  Some of us are seriously maimed, and more importantly we all are spiritually maimed from the world hurting us so cruelly.  

Lmfao it was a hypothetical scenario, genius. I don't actually have a giant tumor on my face. Your Christ-cultianity has evidently made you daft and lowered your IQ a few points.

Michael K. since your knowledge of god almighty and the spiritual nether realms is so great, I have a query. There are these invisible, spotted leprechaun demons who have taken up residence inside my sneakers. How do I get rid of these nasty little spotted, horned, invisible leprechauns in my shoes!? I believe Satan has sent them to torment me, and I am frightened by them.    My good friend Harry Potter taught me how to do the expelliarmus spell, which I tried on these scary little invisible leprechauns in my shoes but it seems not to have done anything. How do I get rid of them?    :?

They look like this. And only I can see them, obviously. Everyone else who has looked inside my sneakers hasn't been able to see them.

[Anonymous]

If you so called jew wise people are going to constantly post this kind of useless information and go at each other with silly spats we have surely lost the battle. What do you think your accomplishing with this garbage? Do you think its going to contribute in any way to stop these people?

This is a battle for your very lives. You do get this little fact don't you??

I swear, sometimes I think the "aware", "active", patriot" types are bigger fools than the asleep sheeple.

ZS

[checkitb4uwreckit]

What do you think your accomplishing with this garbage? Do you think its going to contribute in any way to stop these people?

Do you honestly think mental deficient's like "Timothy Fitzpatrick", "Michael K" and "Gordzilla" want to stop these people? All of these imbeciles believe that this is all part of "God's plan" and all you have to do to live forever in a magical spirit realm called heaven is symbolically eat Jesus's flesh and symbolically drink his blood, and telepathically tell him you accept him as your savior. These people are absolutely worthless to our cause, or any cause for that matter. Their brains are not even functioning properly!

I swear, sometimes I think the "aware", "active", patriot" types are bigger fools than the asleep sheeple.

ZS

I agree.

[Anonymous]

What do you think your accomplishing with this garbage? Do you think its going to contribute in any way to stop these people?

Do you honestly think mental deficient's like "Timothy Fitzpatrick", "Michael K" and "Gordzilla" want to stop these people? All of these imbeciles believe that this is all part of "God's plan" and all you have to do to live forever in a magical spirit realm called heaven is symbolically eat Jesus's flesh and symbolically drink his blood, and telepathically tell him you accept him as your savior. These people are absolutely worthless to our cause, or any cause for that matter. Their brains are not even functioning properly!

I swear, sometimes I think the "aware", "active", patriot" types are bigger fools than the asleep sheeple.

ZS

I agree.

I'm sorry checkitb4uwreckit but I don't keep track of who the religious suckers are on this forum.

Agreed. The people who adhere to this garbage are absolutely worthless. Frankly they are more than hindering and are therefore my enemy as all ignorant fools are. I hate all religions but christians hold an extra special place for their incredible stupidity. They are in for one hell of a surprise.

God and country. SUCKERS. Jews are so laughing at you ......

ZS

[GordZilla]

For  what the Christian Church did in the past I will not defend, however the people often didn't side with their church throughout history, just as many don't today as well -like me. The institution has done incredibly bad things throughout history, I do not deny that, but you, however, do quite readily deny anything good that may have came from this faith in Jesus - Also being denied is how it's even possible that I could have known 'Jew wise' people who developed that way by simply reading the words of Jesus and seeing how those words reflected  perfectly into their own experiences with these creatures. There is a power there, and yes it is that same power that's held them at bay for many years, and again predominately by Christian hands, but admittedly; not entirely (which is a point I made numerous times before).  You believe culture to have sprung from no shared belief, as 'witnessed'  in Scandinavian countries, though you're not entirely accurate - Scandinavian countries have roots in Christianity (that is indeed a cross you see on most of their flags) and have for a long time, and there are plenty of Christians still well and good in those countries -as with much of the rest of Europe .( I've seen this argument before from other Atheists - It was probably started on some Reddit board somewhere -by you know who)

Do you think there has not been a push to remove Jesus from the equation by the Jews? Really? Did we see the same in other faiths, Like Zeus from Roman faith, or Thor from Nordic faiths. No? But there has been most definitely a hatred of Jesus within the Jewish faith since He walked the earth, and a huge push to destroy and corrupt this religion from inside and out from the same creatures. Why? Why wouldn't they go after the leprechauns too? You still maintain Jesus had nothing of value to add to our collective knowledge of the Jew? I wish you told them that some 2000 years ago. We wouldn't have Judeo-Christians today , had you did. By the way you have offered no motive what so ever for the clear curroption brought to the Christian faith by the Jew over the years, and they have. Why? Why did they even bother at all. I won't hold my breath for an answer from you on that, I know its clear Jesus' message has to be destroyed because it outright condemms them and it has a nasty way, as illustrated in my own experiences and in the audience members of Father Couglin's time, of wakening Christians to the Jew's true nature - that's why. Or you still going to believe it was their creation all along, and that they just being without any foresight at all could not see the damage their creation of this 'Jesus' may have on their own future in Christian countries? As history has illustrated despite your denial.



"I already debunked the free will thing. You have no evidence of anything supernatural. This is idiotic."

You went long and hard over my post yet fail to comment on how it is you know there is NOT a creator, and you still haven't. I provided you scientific evidence that supports there MUST have been something beyond our realm  of physical understanding and you ignored it, or missed it, or didn't put it all together. While right in there, within our understanding of those 3 laws  is explained  that the very definition of this creator (or random act) must be  'supernatural', at least beyond the nature of human understanding.  (Simple so far, right? Keep following) .This 'something' is beyond our understanding and into, by necessity,  the 'supernatural'.  It's amazing how you claim things are going over my head while letting the same happen to yourself. 'Blasphemy!, over my head?' I can almost hear you thinking that now - not possible right?  Or Perhaps you simply ignored that which you can't address in favour of things left open to be addressed. The point of illustrating the 3 laws was indeed to illustrate there must be a starting point, and by the way I do not rule out evolution, but even it needs a starting point.   I didn't 'invent ' a realm outside physics, I illustrated how science has proved a need for one, to make the rest work. And that still remains to be debunked by you (and science). Which again brings me back to; how do you know? You don't! 'Something from nothing' cannot be, not with what we already know.  Do you deny this as well?  


"Invented a fictional realm 'outside physics' to give hope to your fantasy that there had to be a creator"

Yup, right over your head. No, what I did was I illustrated thru science's laws themselves, the need for something 'supernatural' to have taken place to get something from nothing (absolute nothing -no time, energy, space, matter etc..a vacuum of nothiny goodness) which scientific laws themselves have conceded to be true. Unless, of course, you moved on from the big bang theory, but still there remains a universe in motion, which using the laws of thermodynamics has a past and future we can see, it has a virtually linear track stretching out from a centre,  with recordable background noise indicating a beginning  that's even still radiating in deep space today, all signs point to a starting point WHICH BY ITS VERY NATURE had to be 'triggered'  because if it weren't it would remain nothing -and that would be; forever, forever nothing. And the 'expanding and contracting' universe theory also fails, as there is absolutely no proof on the 'contracting' end of the argument and again this would also disregard so many already known laws of science, most notably; all matter and energy being drawn into something smaller than a proton is impossible with today's modern scientific understanding (which is why most astrophysicists disregard this theory outright). That's where science is at right now, the leading theory is still the big bang and the big bang still has a big gaping hole.

   It's 'triggering' was done by either a random act (outside of time, matter, and energy) or by a created act (also outside of time, matter and energy). Do you get that yet? Cause that's how modern science sees it. Either way it was a 'supernatural event', which if done by a creator would make 'walking on water' seem to be  nothing more than a side show, for Him/Her/it to perform.  A long and repetitive explanation I know, but I don't what you to fail, yet again, to grasp this.

You might not like the fact that science, thru the 3 laws illustrated (and more can be brought into play) , has a need for something to have existed outside the realm of our known knowledge, outside of time, matter and energy. That's fine, but know then this 'something' by nature is supernatural, and if it is then our rules and laws will no longer apply - and if that's the case then what other point you got there? Are you saying God can't exist there either, even though He/it would have to be supernatural - according to science - He's still bound by our laws of science?? The creator (or starting point if you like) cannot be bound by our laws, cause at one point it had to have existed outside of them.  Yes you may claim that's a week argument but the onus will still fall on you (as you are the one claiming there is not a creator nor evidence for it) so; using those three laws, and what we know about the big bang , how did it start? No really, MSMD,  how did nothing become something? That is the golden question here and if you don't know than please stop claiming that you do, for certain,  know there is not a  'creator' - you can't do both unless you provide an explanation for the prior. I'm going to repeat this for clarity; using scientific laws tell me how nothing became something, if you cannot than claiming there is no creator is dishonest . It's that simple, MSMD,  anything else and you are a hypocrite. This 'something' that triggered it doesn't adhere to our rules of scientific law. You have no other alternative here but to claim it was a random event that triggered it -a random event evolving 'things' not composed of matter, containing no energy and existing outside of time and for that matter; space. Or, alternatively, you can concede that this event was not random but a sentient act by something also existing outside of known physics.  So this random event, that could not happen (-but did)  which could not be possible, but science - thru its own laws - has  illustrated a need for it to have been possible,  is in no way a supernatural event?  Well sorry but modern scientific understanding of all things space, time, matter, and energy just happen to disagree with you. They mostly chalk it up to something random outside their understanding, which I would wager an honest MSMD would likely also admit - but nothing further, of course.  So yeah go on, tell yourself it can happen  without the supernatural, tell yourself it did happen - thru 'evolution' if you like. Tell yourself this event was bound by the rules of science even though it existed/happened  outside those same rules, tell yourself something can indeed come from nothing. You do all that MSMD and yup, you win...nothing is going over your head, and everything over mine.

Certainly the fact that  you can't make sense of it (nor can science), does not mean it can't be. And that's where you fail here, unless of course you just figure your are sitting at the top of all known knowledge that was ever accumulated, up there looking down on us grunts, laughing at our ignorance. having the explanation but failing to tell us .... cause Are we unworthy o supreme one?  Yet still you DON'T KNOW, and can't. A hypocrite is what you are in that respect, you can't know but you are so sure others are wrong.





Wow, ok while writing this above, which I will still post for others to consider,  I read some more posts of yours. You have now called me an 'imbecile' and claimed I was 'mentally deficient'. Do you honestly think that is warranted? I have offered you nothing but respect. You cannot answer the question I laboriously laid out for you here, to extra length so that my point won't be missed but you still insult me on a personal level? I'm I not to take offense from that?

Answer the question, using your scientific 'all knowing' understanding, how did nothing become something or alternatively just remain a hypocrite - I no longer care . I did not ask for insult nor do I believe I deserve it. I've been at this a long time MSMD -longer than you've even been awake to it ( I could have easily referred to someone like you, someone asleep in their dream world as you were back then, as an 'imbecile' but I have never -not to anyone -for I know only unity will beat this beast) , I have done my share of the 'work'. I have been beaten to a bloody pulp by a bar full of people for speaking my views openly and on more than one occasion too. I have woken many to the Jew over decades now and I have not, and will not, quit. I do not think that personal attacks on me  -or frankly anyone engaged in this debate- are warranted. I have shown patience and respect for you, but you have returned that with outright disrespect.  You clearly seek discord amongst us and at the same time hypocritically claim we're not helping?!? Why's that? Because I lack your video editing skills?  Seriously your comments were completely uncalled for.

[GordZilla]

Hopeless ........     :crazy:  :crazy:  :crazy:  :crazy:

Yes like believing none of the 109 times they been expelled had anything to do with the fact they were expelled from predominately Christian nations and regions. Those Christians were not helpful at all, right?  Where on the other hand we have atheists who have managed to collectively expel the Jews how many times?  Absolutly zero times, none, nadda.

Do I need to say more as to its helpfulness in our common struggle? Probably, so I will; the only relationship we see with Jews and atheism, thus far in history, has been a beneficial one -to the Jews. They do not work hard -scratch that; at all - to denounce atheism but they have historically worked very hard to destroy Christianity (and Islam). Are you saying that didn't happen?  Then you'd be lying.

So one can conclude from this quite simply and clearly that Christianity, historically, against the Jews works, as far as helping our common cause and as proven in history.  Atheism? it never  has, and most likely never will. What's 'useless' again in our fight?

You can think what you what, ZS,  but that is the truth as history records it. I understand your problem with modern Judeo-Christianity, but this is a product of theirs designed and created out of necessity to make sure it didn't happen the 110th time. They started this corruption roughly around the time they invented the printing  press - i.e.; as soon as they could, on a mass scale and effectively.  Does atheism suffer this same corruption from them?  No? Why not? Even further to that; why is atheism overwhelmingly promoted by Jews?

So historically once again, it is Christians that have provided the most weight in our fight against the Jews, and atheists the least. Don't blame me, I'm just the messenger, but perhaps you should consider that fact the next time you label someone as 'useless' in this fight, simply because they happen to be faithful. When the facts of this matter are clearly not in your favor. And by the way the most successful of all attempts to oust the Jews was the Byzantine Empire, who were again; Christians.

Fools, right? The only ones apart from Muslims to ever, I REPEAT EVER, to oust the Jews happen to be these same 'useless' people, where you have no other group to reference that's been more effective. Hitler? Oh yes, but German folk were also predominately Christian in his time, and were -because of that fact - already biased against Jews, that mixed with the Bolshevik threat made support for Hitler a 'no brainer' amongst most Germans.   As Christians, historically and before their meddling have always been no friend of the Jews, again before their meddling , and again for the most part -institutions were swayed but the folk keep true to the warnings from Jesus about these critters and they could often smell them a mile away. That's what the Jew had to destroy, atheism has nothing to fear on this front. Promotion of atheism actually helped on this front. Don't believe me , check your history again, check some of the greatest men to speak against the Jews, how many were Christian? Muslim? Atheist?

Seriously how much proof do you need to see that Christianity, for the majority of it's existence has not been useless against the Jew? How much? God I hope not more than MSMD, he'll deny all of this like it never happened, as long as he saves face.

[GordZilla]

I decided to take a look and surprise surprise;  DAVE SILVERMAN, President of American Atheists.

I'll follow Jesus, you follow whatever the hell that is. lol.

       



"fooled'  you say? pfft. check your mirror.

[Michael K.]

checkitb4uwreckit wrote:

Michael K. since your knowledge of god almighty and the spiritual nether realms is so great, I have a query. There are these invisible, spotted leprechaun demons who have taken up residence inside my sneakers. How do I get rid of these nasty little spotted, horned, invisible leprechauns in my shoes!? I believe Satan has sent them to torment me, and I am frightened by them. My good friend Harry Potter taught me how to do the expelliarmus spell, which I tried on these scary little invisible leprechauns in my shoes but it seems not to have done anything. How do I get rid of them? :?

Well, the answer to me seems obvious.  First, don't give in to fear, they feed on that emotion. Then you need to pray over your sneakers and hit 'em with some holy water/baking soda.  Better yet, I'll pray for you, you just deodorize the sneakers.

[Moe Foe]

And Jews use aleprechaunism to destroy people's faith in leprechaums too. :up: They also are conspiring to destroy people's belief in santa clause and the tooth fairy too. better start believing moe foe!
Jews obviously use atheism to destroy people's belief in Kulkulcan, the mayan wind god also known as the feathered serpent god.


Atheists are pseudo skeptical? ROFL. that's why you have failed quote anything i've written thus far and tried to refute it... because you can't. Look at the idiots in here defending BLIND FAITH yet claiming that evolution is "just a belief" at the same time. That's way beyond pseudo-skepticism, that's downright MENTALLY ILL.

You're just another idiot who can't defend the Christian fairy tale using rational arguments so you bring up irrelevant stuff about Jews hating Christianity. Hey, guess what, Jews hate Hitler 1,000,000 times more than Christianity and have convinced the world that he is the embodiment of evil through lies and deceit. Yet, you have nothing good to say about Hitler and haven't adopted National Socialism simply because Jews hate it have you? No, you are a liberal, "anti-racist", pro-immigrant, marxist activist.

The problem with theists is that they are dishonest idiots who have absolutely no evidence for their claims of invisible space gods who telepathically speak to them if they cup their hands together and point them in the direction of the heavens.

Anti-Christian agenda? I refute all bullshit religions, Christianity is nothing special. But what's the Christian agenda these days...?


Better start praising Kukulcan Moe Foe, it'll solve the Jewish problem!

Let's look at my post again:

The Jews use atheism to destroy spirituality among all peoples of faith, particularly Christians because their hatred of Christianity is virulent.  Militant atheists and their aggressive followers are pesudo-skeptical, phony rationalists.  The problem with militant atheists is that they are arrogant and act like they have it all figured out. There are some things we will never know, but to pretend that we've got it all figured out, to assert that there is nothing bigger than ourselves and that our existence is just some chemical accident is pompous. There are many good things that you can take from the teachings of many religions and incorporate into our own philosophies.

Now let's have a look at your first two posts from this thread  viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11185 from just last year:

Look familiar?  :crazy:

Im not religious and do not subscribe to any faith. But militant atheism is a faith in itself.

The Jews use atheism to destroy spirituality among all peoples of faith, particularly Christians because their hatred of Christianity is virulent. This was laid out in the protocols of Zion.

The militant atheist community definitely seem part of the anti-Christian agenda laid out in the protocols. Many of the top atheists are Jewish by birth (i.e. Sam Harris, Bill Maher, Steven Pinker, etc). Atheist books are always on the best seller lists and the media promotes atheism like crazy. That should tell you something.

It should be pointed out that these so called atheists are staunchly anti-Islam & anti-Christianity but suddenly become pro-religion when it comes to Judaism and/or are very mild if critical at all of Judaism


You'll notice that militant atheists and their aggressive followers are pesudo-skeptical, phony rationalists and are totally anti-Conspiracy Theories.

and post 2:

I'm not against atheists, i actually considered myself an atheist at one point in time and bought into this anti-religion philosophy for awhile. But after some time I realized how jaded atheism is and its outlook on the universe and humanity. It's an extremely self-centered individualistic philosophy. It basically projects humans as nothing more than a glob of protoplasm that washed ashore and evolved. I don't believe in the Christian god or any kind of personal god that protects individual groups of people, that's a bunch of baloney. But the problem with militant atheists is that they are arrogant and act like they have it all figured out. There are some things we will never know, but to pretend that we've got it all figured out, to assert that there is nothing bigger than ourselves and that our existence is just some chemical accident is pompous. Organized religion is garbage, I must say, and it only adds to group think mentality that turns people into sleepwalking zombies, but spirituality is a different thing altogether. There are many good things that you can take from the teachings of many religions and incorporate into our own philosophies. I think religions should be studied but not blindly believed. Everyone should question everything, and atheists should question atheism too, but I don't see them doing that. A question everything attitude is the most healthy thing imho. Trusting ones instincts and coming to one's own conclusions should lead you down the right path...

   :up:

GOTCHA!! Hook line & sinker!!

Congratulations you've just debunked yourself from a year ago.    You've just called yourself "mentally ill"!  :lol:   Well talking to yourself is the first sign of madness.

[Anonymous]

You people are feckin' nuts !!

ZS

[checkitb4uwreckit]

Gordzilla, if you had your brain surgically removed you'd be making more sense than you are right now.

Here is one of your hero "Christian believers", a kike named Ray Comfort who wants us to believe in Jesus, and the Holocaust.

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Let's look at another Jew supporter of your asinine belief in "creationism". BEN STEIN, another kike who wants us to believe in creationism, and the holocaust:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Stein# ... ent_design

Stein has denounced evolution, which he and other intelligent design advocates call "Darwinism", declaring it to be "a painful, bloody chapter in the history of ideologies," "the most compelling argument yet for Imperialism," and the inspiration for the Holocaust.[38][39] Stein does not say belief in evolution alone leads to genocide, but that scientific materialism is a necessary component.[40] He co-wrote and stars in Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed, a film that aims to persuade viewers that evolution was instrumental to the rise of the eugenics movement, Nazi Germany, and the Holocaust, and portrays advocates of intelligent design as victims of intellectual discrimination by the scientific community, which has rejected intelligent design as creationist pseudoscience.[41][42][43]

[checkitb4uwreckit]

Moe Foe, your post is idiotic and so was mine over a year ago. And look how you are just ripping off the dumb arguments I used then because you are mentally deficient and cannot come up with an argument of your own to defend your crackpot beliefs. You've failed to quote anything I've written in this thread because you can't refute it. You are playing the role of a Jew defending the holocaust story. Now, either get an argument or fuck off.

[checkitb4uwreckit]

Notice how Gordzilla's posts are getting longer and longer. I wonder why he hasn't responded to a single one of my non-existence of god arguments or all the hypocrisies and contradictions I pointed out in his crazed book-length religious rants.

Gord, you need mental help, you are losing it.

[checkitb4uwreckit]

http://winstonsmithministryoftruth.blog ... -will.html


In 1971 Rabbi Martin Siegel published his diary, extracts of which appeared
in both the New York Times Book Review and New York Magazine.

An extract

    "I am devoting my lectures here in this Tarrytown seminar to a discussion of the possibility that we are now entering a Jewish Century, a time when the spirit of community, the non-ideological blend of the emotional and the rational, and the resistance to categories and forms, will all emerge through the forces of anti-nationalism to provide us with a new kind of society. I call the process the Judaization of Christianity, because Christianity will be the vehicle through which society becomes Jewish."

But not believing in Leprechauns is a Jewish trick right? Christians are moronic.

[checkitb4uwreckit]

Do I need to say more as to its helpfulness in our common struggle?

Our struggle? The only struggle you're involved with is trying to convince dupes to actually believe that you can live forever in an eternal spirit realm if you symbolically eat Christ's flesh (cannibalism) and symbolically drink his blood (vampirism), and telepathically tell him he is your master. I bet you struggle to tie your own shoe laces when you leave the house.

Christians are delusional.

[GordZilla]

You still have no answer, guess it's just gonna be insults from you then from here on out, eh MSMD?

It's just one question  ...it's still there exposing you as a hypocrite  ...you gonna fix that or just throw more mud hoping no one will notice?

Seriously you ask me to check my head? Here you are pissing on member after member over a topic you claim not to give a shit about in the first place - you should check yours. Our numbers are already small why do you work so hard to divide them even further?

Right, cause we're idiots in your mind, ignoring that you still have no answer and of course (and as usual) little Mr. Cant-be-wrong can't for one second entertain the thought that he just might, afterall,  not know it all. Is David Silverman your buddy? I mean he's an atheist after all.  That's the same logic you just used in your video back there of some judaeochristian while claiming him to be one of mine. Fricken pathetic!  You are so obviously looking to just instigate at this point, most likely to distract from the point that you still can't answer my one little question.

And all this for what? Never was an insult hurled towards you from me until you started with this shit, a topic you don't care about in the first place yet you still decide to piss on a brother-in-arms (and we're already a very small army).  I can't wrap my head around it. It's either distraction, so you hope no one will notice you can't answer what was put to you, or perhaps there's an agenda at foot here - which honestly makes no sense to me. I don't get it MSMD, why are you so belligerent lately?  And it's not like we haven't debated all this before, we know each other's points well by now, but it was much more civil then.

I mean seriously, You ask me to check my head while you throw insult after insult to member after member in a 'leprechaun' debate that you simply don't care about in the first place anyways?!?

[Anonymous]

This board is useless ..... except as a tool for jew agents to infiltrate and keep you cats going in circles.

Og, shut this joke down. Its reached the point of being useless to the cause.

ZS

[checkitb4uwreckit]

Gordzilla, you haven't even attempted to respond to 99.9% of what I posted refuting your bullshit statements. Instead you just come back with an even longer post reiterating the same asinine garbage I just refuted.

Is David Silverman your buddy? I mean he's an atheist after all.  That's the same logic you just used in your video back there of some judaeochristian while claiming him to be one of mine. Fricken pathetic!  

I was simply mimicking your logic dumbass. You're the one who tried that first by pointing out one Jew amongst millions of atheists as if this means a damn thing. Now you are complaining that I am using your same tactic against your Jewtard religion by pointing out Jews who promote Christianity. At least that Dave Silverman guy didn't make a film affirming the holohoax like your christian kike buddy Ray Comfort. You are blatantly hypocritical in everything you do and say.

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

This thread will end up like most other threads the Marxist-Nihilist brigade shit on, with them left with no one to talk to but themselves. Keep the circle jerk goin, fellas. The funny thing is, it's apparent that MSMD is putting in a lot of time copying and pasting from his Marxist manual and finding, what he thinks, are clever pictures to post. He is wasting his time. Let him.

[checkitb4uwreckit]

Why can't you refute me then Titzpatrick? You haven't even tried. You can't even answer a simple question as to whether you believe in the Mayan wind god Kulkulcan or not.

You need to be sterilized so you can't pass down your faulty genes and retardation.

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

And Jews use aleprechaunism to destroy people's faith in leprechaums too. :up: They also are conspiring to destroy people's belief in santa clause and the tooth fairy too. better start believing moe foe!
Jews obviously use atheism to destroy people's belief in Kulkulcan, the mayan wind god also known as the feathered serpent god.


Atheists are pseudo skeptical? ROFL. that's why you have failed quote anything i've written thus far and tried to refute it... because you can't. Look at the idiots in here defending BLIND FAITH yet claiming that evolution is "just a belief" at the same time. That's way beyond pseudo-skepticism, that's downright MENTALLY ILL.

You're just another idiot who can't defend the Christian fairy tale using rational arguments so you bring up irrelevant stuff about Jews hating Christianity. Hey, guess what, Jews hate Hitler 1,000,000 times more than Christianity and have convinced the world that he is the embodiment of evil through lies and deceit. Yet, you have nothing good to say about Hitler and haven't adopted National Socialism simply because Jews hate it have you? No, you are a liberal, "anti-racist", pro-immigrant, marxist activist.

The problem with theists is that they are dishonest idiots who have absolutely no evidence for their claims of invisible space gods who telepathically speak to them if they cup their hands together and point them in the direction of the heavens.

Anti-Christian agenda? I refute all bullshit religions, Christianity is nothing special. But what's the Christian agenda these days...?


Better start praising Kukulcan Moe Foe, it'll solve the Jewish problem!

Let's look at my post again:

The Jews use atheism to destroy spirituality among all peoples of faith, particularly Christians because their hatred of Christianity is virulent.  Militant atheists and their aggressive followers are pesudo-skeptical, phony rationalists.  The problem with militant atheists is that they are arrogant and act like they have it all figured out. There are some things we will never know, but to pretend that we've got it all figured out, to assert that there is nothing bigger than ourselves and that our existence is just some chemical accident is pompous. There are many good things that you can take from the teachings of many religions and incorporate into our own philosophies.

Now let's have a look at your first two posts from this thread  viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11185 from just last year:

Look familiar?  :crazy:

Im not religious and do not subscribe to any faith. But militant atheism is a faith in itself.

The Jews use atheism to destroy spirituality among all peoples of faith, particularly Christians because their hatred of Christianity is virulent. This was laid out in the protocols of Zion.

The militant atheist community definitely seem part of the anti-Christian agenda laid out in the protocols. Many of the top atheists are Jewish by birth (i.e. Sam Harris, Bill Maher, Steven Pinker, etc). Atheist books are always on the best seller lists and the media promotes atheism like crazy. That should tell you something.

It should be pointed out that these so called atheists are staunchly anti-Islam & anti-Christianity but suddenly become pro-religion when it comes to Judaism and/or are very mild if critical at all of Judaism


You'll notice that militant atheists and their aggressive followers are pesudo-skeptical, phony rationalists and are totally anti-Conspiracy Theories.

and post 2:

I'm not against atheists, i actually considered myself an atheist at one point in time and bought into this anti-religion philosophy for awhile. But after some time I realized how jaded atheism is and its outlook on the universe and humanity. It's an extremely self-centered individualistic philosophy. It basically projects humans as nothing more than a glob of protoplasm that washed ashore and evolved. I don't believe in the Christian god or any kind of personal god that protects individual groups of people, that's a bunch of baloney. But the problem with militant atheists is that they are arrogant and act like they have it all figured out. There are some things we will never know, but to pretend that we've got it all figured out, to assert that there is nothing bigger than ourselves and that our existence is just some chemical accident is pompous. Organized religion is garbage, I must say, and it only adds to group think mentality that turns people into sleepwalking zombies, but spirituality is a different thing altogether. There are many good things that you can take from the teachings of many religions and incorporate into our own philosophies. I think religions should be studied but not blindly believed. Everyone should question everything, and atheists should question atheism too, but I don't see them doing that. A question everything attitude is the most healthy thing imho. Trusting ones instincts and coming to one's own conclusions should lead you down the right path...

   :up:

GOTCHA!! Hook line & sinker!!

Congratulations you've just debunked yourself from a year ago.    You've just called yourself "mentally ill"!  :lol:   Well talking to yourself is the first sign of madness.

Interesting, Moe Foe. MSMD hasn't merely pulled a 180, he has gone back and forth multiple times. What do we know that this is characteristic of? It's obvious that MSMD isn't just some young buck in a state of confusion....

[checkitb4uwreckit]

Note how Gorddildo jumps around from arguing for the existence of a generic "creator" to specifically the judeo-christian god of the bible. When I flawlessly debunk the god of the bible, he reverts back to a generic "creator" argument. He is fundamentally deceitful and just refuses to respond to any of my rock-solid non-existence of god arguments or the contradictions and hypocrisies in his own statements. Gordzilla's IQ is on par with someone with downs syndrome... or worse.

below is gord's most astonishingly pitiful excuse for why god suddenly stopped performing his magic tricks precisely when humans gained the ability to evaluate supernatural claims with modern science. Not to mention god can't be omniscient if the below statement by Gordzilla were true, so he has himself proven the impossibility of the existence of the Christian god while trying to argue for its reality. ROFL

Then came a New Testament, where He decided to find out just what it was to be human, this is where the tide changed, no longer did God stick around directing people in their day-to-day. This is where, I believe, He learned that in order to bring the best of them to him, He would have to give them the choice, He'd have to step out of the picture - and He did. Free choice was given to man as the 'big brother of the sky' decided to change His ways and step back.

[Michael K.]

Zionist Sniper » Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:12 pm
This board is useless ..... except as a tool for jew agents to infiltrate and keep you cats going in circles.

Og, shut this joke down. Its reached the point of being useless to the cause.

ZS

Okay, so let me get this straight:  You are a Zionist sniper and you want to shoot down some Christians, not because they are doing you evil, but because they refuse to conform to your religion or lack thereof.  Did I miss your point?

Or did you mean that the obvious 'attack-Jew' here is MSMD, and all he is doing is wasting everyone else's time trying to see how much of his piss he can get in crucified Jesus' face, trying to marginalize and split off the Christians as useless to the militant atheist cause (which apparently has a savior complex itself, since it proposes that it alone can save everyone).


checkitb4uwreckit,

I am still praying for you, so look out for when it gets answered.  

In the mean time, let's try and answer a few basic questions:  

1.)  What do you and the anti-Christ Jew Kapner have in common, that you now post on his website? (A: National Bolshevist fanaticism?)

2.)  What are you doing here other than patently insisting that:
 
     a.) its high time for a fight between atheists and Christians over who is more opposed to Jews;
     b.) atheists are way more opposed to Jews while Christians are deluded faggot Jew-blowers; and,
     c.) therefore all the Christians must convert to atheist or die (or at least go away into exile forever)

     ?

[GordZilla]

Gordzilla, if you had your brain surgically removed you'd be making more sense than you are right now.

Here is one of your hero "Christian believers", a kike named Ray Comfort who wants us to believe in Jesus, and the Holocaust.

lol, pathetic attempt there Yo Moma, err MSMD  .. forgive me it's getting hard now to tell you apart.
So in this post of yours after two lengthy and solid posts IN GREAT DETAIL designed so a 'denial boy' such as yourself could not fail to see the point and this is what you come back with  That's an absolute fail, MSMD.

But wait here you come with more 'rebuttal' ;

Notice how Gordzilla's posts are getting longer and longer. I wonder why he hasn't responded to a single one of my non-existence of god arguments or all the hypocrisies and contradictions I pointed out in his crazed book-length religious rants.

Gord, you need mental help, you are losing it.

Did you read that post, the one directed at you? If you did you'd see the majority of it was not about religion at all (although it did address your argument of non  existence and the hypocrisies you pointed out -probably not directly enough for your liking) , but again this post of yours, like your previous one, is obvious distraction from that which you STILL cannot address (BTW that list is growing on you, other's have asked of you certain things which you also blatantly ignored, who do you think your fooling? Who, that is, besides your own ego? ). And for the record I did address your concerns already, your failing to see that or not accepting my answer (without any debate) is not of my concern. Not to mention, I have addressed them before with Yo Moma and yourself in previous threads, go back; I don't change my tune with every new year like some of us do   . We've already had this out and you are taking the same route Yo Moma took; have nothing, so resort to insults.  I take the time and length to answer you fully and respond with questions of my own and when put on the spot you, well , just look at the two mudslinging 'responses' you offered thus far! Wow you are good, you said so little yet it still illustrates so clearly how much you failed. Keep it up and you'll  look better and better, insult some more of us likeminded people too, you are leaving out too many.  Get everyone you can get in there MSMD, no holds barred, you have a nack for dishing out insults. However I personally will back out soon as I did with Yo Moma, because you are acting exactly like him by avoiding what you can't answer and introducing words into people's mouths and coupling that with direct insults as a 'defence'. You really are starting to look like peas of the same pod, you two. Same tactics. I write- as you said- "Two book length rants" and for a response I get this? And I can assure you what I wrote there is very solid, I know this myself by using some of these same arguments on many others before you, and also by the fact you are completely ignoring and sidestepping the content. You just can't be wrong, just like Yo Moma, except you have a highly inflated ego built upon some videos you made and the recognition they got you. The recognition was deserved but the ego could use a little humility. Well that will eventually fail you, be aware that; what goes up will come down, your ego is no exception. Just try this with me, repeat after me;  "I, MSMD, am human and cannot possibly know all things all the time. As illustrated clearly in the posts here that I am conveniently ignoring.  I can indeed be wrong. And when I am shown to be wrong I will try not to respond with insult, as this makes me look pathetic, and instead -against the wishes of my greater ego - I'll just admit it"  There, you feel better bro?  

 

Ah wait you post again, let's see;

Do I need to say more as to its helpfulness in our common struggle?

Our struggle? The only struggle you're involved with is trying to convince dupes to actually believe that you can live forever in an eternal spirit realm if you symbolically eat Christ's flesh (cannibalism) and symbolically drink his blood (vampirism), and telepathically tell him he is your master. I bet you struggle to tie your own shoe laces when you leave the house.

Well first it obvious that you are vainly trying to put words in my mouth here, incredibly pathetic - I'm really starting to think Yo Moma could do better - and that's not saying a lot for ya. Secondly you assume I'm not part of the struggle? Ah right I didn't make a video, well yes you're right then oh great ego , I mean MSMD. You're right; I didn't make a video, But I do know what I have done, and I do know I've been at it for virtually the majority of your whole life, in a time that was much more hostile to opinions like ours. A time before 9/11, and from the early age of the internet itself. I have done my work MSMD and I don't feel the need to convince you of that either, in fact the notion is almost laughable, again, to me. Like I said before, you were an 'imbecile' in those times, if I knew what was coming I would have made the effort to look you up, ask your Mommy for permission to wake you and do the one thing I didn't do along the way; call someone an 'imbecile' for simply not knowing yet what I already did. But alas, I was already old enough to know to keep my ego in check for the sake of unity and less disruption in order to get my message across and passed forward. I did my work, and paid many dues for it too MSMD. Your assumptions combined with your ego are really showing your age.

So let me get this straight, you would rather decrease our numbers? That is how you are approaching this 'struggle'  currently ('currently' as, God willing, that might change given that the new year is just around the corner) But I put to you, as I have Yo Moma, just how do you think discouraging and insulting others with  95% 'like minds' simply because of the 5% you don't agree with  -how is that going to help our collective struggle?? (you can file that with the other questions you can't answer it's fine by me - or perhaps you'll argue you only want the best in your struggle, well good luck with that - I think you are old enough now to know how that will unfold)

And what of that post, pretty solid again eh? I can tell by your lack of direct response to any of its content - yet again. I mean all that I wrote there is historically sound and you come back with a deflection about one line and focus on the word 'struggle' and then proceed to completely put words in my mouth- again complete fail on your part.

And so here you come again, 'denial boy' perhaps  'projection boy' would be more fitting with this one;

Gordzilla, you haven't even attempted to respond to 99.9% of what I posted refuting your bullshit statements. Instead you just come back with an even longer post reiterating the same asinine garbage I just refuted.

Is David Silverman your buddy? I mean he's an atheist after all.  That's the same logic you just used in your video back there of some Judeo-Christian while claiming him to be one of mine. Fricken pathetic!  

I was simply mimicking your logic dumbass. You're the one who tried that first by pointing out one Jew amongst millions of atheists as if this means a damn thing. Now you are complaining that I am using your same tactic against your Jewtard religion by pointing out Jews who promote Christianity. At least that Dave Silverman guy didn't make a film affirming the holohoax like your christian kike buddy Ray Comfort. You are blatantly hypocritical in everything you do and say.

Oh but I did respond to you though I think you may have missed it - or conveniently and once again ignored it. Either way the answer is there. But to recap for you briefly;  I reiterated some of it again as the answers to your rebuttal are already enclosed in the first post, you remove pieces from context to make your 'points' but constantly fail to see the bigger picture. Just what is impossible for the 'supernatural' to accomplish? Just how do you figure you could know, or even expect to understand it?  Or expect for it to logically make sense within the confies of your/our understanding? And why it is that there must indeed be a supernatural 'starting point' to all that we know today ..and why it must be beyond the nature of things as we know them. I warned you that you would not like that response, but I gave you the scientific reasons for there being this 'supernatural' event, or thing, or creator in the first place. 'Supernatural', unfortunately for you, can cover much of your rebuttals - and using science itself I can (and did) show that I'm not using this as a cop out either. If I remeber you missed a whole chunk of that and commented on how I mentioned something about Jesus walking on water, as if to say I had a hard time believing that as well ..something to that effect ..that's the danger of removing points from context, you might just miss the overriding point.  Read again how I derived at there being a supernatural component here in the first place. Put it together, I took the time to explain it  just for you. And please get to the question at hand, how can you know there is not? You can't, not honestly anyways.

I should try that same bullshit tactic on you one day, hell I could right now; "You haven't responded to any questions asked directly to you but instead comeback and put words in people's mouths and provide pretty pictures  with the same asinine garbage that's already been refuted -and with added insults." Because you have indeed done exactly that here MSMD, exactly that. 'Projection boy' it is fitting.  As for 'Silverman' post that was directed against no one in particular (though I do think it paints a broader and disparaging picture of atheism's movement in general ) - Just belligerent atheists,  in the same style as MANY of your posts aimed at any and every Christian. However you did attach a name to this particular one in question, didn't you?  And you've used that very same disingenuous tactic before too, more aptly  putting words into people's mouths - hell just look back a couple posts and you'll see you did it to me a few times now.  You are failing left right and center here, but you cannot recognize that fact, your ego keeps getting in your way. Because, again, you do not except my answers, and you'd rather write them off as 'rantings' because you cannot address them directly and in context. This 'proves' on your behalf very little other than you're cornered and are grasping for whatever you can. You can actually count the insults increasing as you go along.  

So MSMD, now that my rant is nearly over and I've addressed your 'concerns' (in quotes cause again why would you, an atheist, even be 'concerned' with this topic in the first place?) , but probably not to your liking but none-the-less they've been addressed here, and with Yo Moma in prior threads (your arguments are not that much different, answers I may have missed in this thread can certainly be found there ). Will you do the honors and address some of what has been addressed to you in this thread? I only have the one question, but I've seen others who have asked things of you which you also apparently ignored.

Till you address mine I will now just consider you as I did Yo Moma, a blow hard who will side step everything to save face and protect his ever inflating ego at all costs. Ignoring long winded responses that he can't address by simply calling them 'rants' and hope others don't actually see that he's avoiding topics, then proceeding to insult others as if nothing was addressed to him prior to his last slanderous attack. Sound fair? Oh and yeah if you insult people for simply having faith without addressing my one question than you are without a doubt a hypocrite.

P.S. do me a favor now and go try that shit out there in real life, face to face, tell someone their faith is 'bullshit'. I think you could learn from that experience. Ah wait, odds are you are in North America and will likely meet with an atheist or a Judeo-Christian, I would tend to think their faith(Judeo-Christianity in this case) is bullshit too  -no wait do it anyways;  the response will be the same as intended. Perhaps from that experience you will see people won't take lightly to your opinion of their faith. That's exactly what you doing here. Amongst, for all intensive purposes; allies, who -again- probably agree with you on 95% of the rest of what you think yet you would still rather insult them, and on the topic  of faith no less? ? Do you not see the futility in this? Or is that just another question you will not address?





Update;
Ah it never ends;

"Note how Gorddildo jumps around from arguing for the existence of a generic "creator" to specifically the judeo-christian god of the bible. When I flawlessly debunk the god of the bible, he reverts back to a generic "creator" argument. He is fundamentally deceitful and just refuses to respond to any of my rock-solid non-existence of god arguments or the contradictions and hypocrisies in his own statements. Gordzilla's IQ is on par with someone with downs syndrome... or worse.

below is gord's most astonishingly pitiful excuse for why god suddenly stopped performing his magic tricks precisely when humans gained the ability to evaluate supernatural claims with modern science. Not to mention god can't be omniscient if the below statement by Gordzilla were true, so he has himself proven the impossibility of the existence of the Christian god while trying to argue for its reality. ROFL"

Yes You are right, I do not know exactly what or how or even if all we are told now is exactly true of the 'creator'  as it is the Christian God, as the later suffers from man's interpretation. I Argued before that its is the creator that I can prove, thru scence, to be real -or at least almost certainly needed , however the Christian God is  1) The one I most relate to as I was brought up in a predominately Christian nation, so the familiarity is there. And 2) The one I favor the most because of His effect on people especially in their ability to become 'Jew wise' - as illustrated historically and the Book has insght on that front to be sure. But if you read closer you'd already know that I don't have all the answers(admittedly, and prior to this thread admittedly) as I know He is supernatural, I know therefore I can't possibly understand all that He does or says or 'thinks' as it were. (I've admitted this in many posts and indirectly in the above quote of mine with the words "I believe" i.e thats how I interpret it. I have mentioned before I try to follow the book as best I can, not a church and not error free.  I'm not a full traditional Christian in this respect. I know I sin, in the Christian sense. I do, however, stand by my belief of there being a creator. I do know you have not proven the non existence of one either (excuse the double negative it's getting late here), and you have only 'proven' -in your mind- that the Christian God cannot be real, cause what He does from His supernatural realm does not make sense to you and your current understanding. Your logic for that equating to there being no creator is also flawed. I'm getting tired of this MSMD, so please just one question, and answer it soundly if you can; how do you know with such certainty that there is no creator, so much so that you feel the right/need to insult anyone that has faith? (by the way I admitted an error there, you should try that some time ...right now would be ideal)

'Rock solid non-existance of god arguments'? God the creator?? Well that's what I'm waiting for ... bring it ... you are not allowed to flip flop between the Christian God and the creator either, in order to make this argument (as you have been primarilly attempting to disprove the Christian God, you have offered nothing 'rock solid' to disprove the creator, and therefore nothing to justfy referring to all people's individual faith as mere bullshit - and even if in a Christian God, cause most of your proof relies on your human understanding and if indeed real than the Christian God may be a little beyond your understanding ...so stick to creator only, that's what I did when I originally proposed the question to you)


Man how many posts is that since my last MSMD? Have I gotton under your skin, such passion for something you care nothing of.

Unless you answer directly here MSMD , consider me out. I have no further need to pursue this, the insults are getting to be a bit much, and if -like I said- you can't prove it then those insults are also hypocritical when referred to one's individual faith.

[checkitb4uwreckit]

Oh great, more endless mountains of mindless babbling from gordzilla. There is something seriously wrong with you.  :roll:

You are moronic. Look how you barely ever quote me in your responses. You just babble on and on repeating the same garbage over and over again, sidestepping every single contradiction i pointed out in my previous responses.

You've already been completely discredited. You have failed respond to 99% of this, because you can't. I have pointed out a plethora of errors, contradictions and impossibilities in your statements. You've ignored every single one. You are fucking mentally ill.
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But if you read closer you'd already know that I don't have all the answers(admittedly, and prior to this thread admittedly) as I know He is supernatural

You KNOW he is supernatural? You are so completely full of shit. How can you "know" something is "supernatural" if you yourself admit you can't comprehend what "supernatural" is?

The reason you are making this claim is because you realize that your deity has been debunked and cannot exist in the natural world, therefore, you've invented another realm where this magical entity could possibly exist. In other words, you are making shit up to account for the fact that it is impossible for your god to exist in the natural world as we know it.

I could make that same IDIOTIC claim about invisible leprechauns, invisible pink unicorns, or the flying spaghetti monster. I could say these entities are "supernatural" therefore beyond our understanding. That's called a COP OUT.

I know therefore I can't possibly understand all that He does or says or 'thinks' as it were.

Let me just quote you:

I see a God who was a jealous God, a God amongst Gods, and one who did not know what it was like to be human. He did not understand why it was for so many not to give faith onto Him. He reacted badly when presented by this. Then came a New Testament, where He decided to find out just what it was to be human, this is where the tide changed, no longer did God stick around directing people in their day-to-day. This is where, I believe, He learned that in order to bring the best of them to him, He would have to give them the choice, He'd have to step out of the picture - and He did. Free choice was given to man as the 'big brother of the sky' decided to change His ways and step back. Now all that was left was faith, and that's all He wanted. In the words of The Police "If you love somebody set them free". I don't see God as the 'all loving' God you claim I do. I never said that, not 'all' loving, there are some He doesn't. I believe He is holding Himself under a lot of restraint and would indeed wipe entire nations on the earth without this restraint. This restraint, I belieive, was learned thru His experience on earth. He knows now that we won't change, so He let us have our way with it, but did give us some guide lines and some warnings, and most of them still hold value today. He's not here for everyone , just everyone that chooses to be with Him. That's my God, and it may not be everyone's but that's the God I hold my faith up for. To ZS, it's the creator, to you it seems to be science.

Looks to me that you're claiming to know here exactly what the dude is thinking. Not to mention you have debunked the Christian god by your own statements. If the christian god is all-knowing, then he'd have already known "what it was like to be human" and there would be nothing he "did not understand" and he would have no need to "learn" things, as you are asserting here. CONGRATS YOU'VE DEBUNKED THE CHRISTIAN GOD WHILE ATTEMPTING TO AFFIRM THE CHRISTIAN GOD!

 :lol:  :lol:  :crazy:  :crazy:

I do, however, stand by my belief of there being a creator.

And it will remain a "belief" backed up by nothing other than wishful thinking. The mystery is, why do you "believe" in the Christian god, but not in Zeus, Osiris, Isis or Kulkulcan? Because you were raised in the Christian faith and born in a country where that faith was predominant. If you had been born in saudi arabia you'd believe in Allah, if you had been born in the Mayan tribe you'd believe in Kulkulcan, if you had been born in ancient Greece you'd have been worshiping Zeus, etc. That's a HUGE problem for those who claim their religion is true, and other religions are false.

I do know you have not proven the non existence of one either (excuse the double negative it's getting late here), and you have only 'proven' -in your mind- that the Christian God cannot be real, cause what He does from His supernatural realm does not make sense to you and your current understanding.

You have not proven the non-existence of invisible leprechauns in my shoes. See how asinine that is?

And I have already pointed out that you yourself have proven that the Christian god cannot be real. Of course, you ignore it because you are a mind controlled buffoon.

how do you know with such certainty that there is no creator, so much so that you feel the right/need to insult anyone that has faith? (by the way I admitted an error there, you should try that some time ...right now would be ideal)

I'll put it this way, I know there is no "creator" with the same degree of certitude that I know there are no invisible pink unicorns living inside my sneakers who have the ability to move mountains and conjure celestial bodies out of thin air.

You might as well insist that I can't "know" with absolute certitude there are not invisible, intangible, pink unicorns that have taken up residence in my sneakers, like you're doing here with your non-existent space deity. What you are doing is absolutely fucking retarded and childish. No different than a kid insisting Santa Clause is real despite not being able to see or talk to santa clause, and despite finding wrapped presents hidden under a blanket in his parents' closet. Despite this, the foolish child (gordzilla) says, "well, maybe santa clause is SUPERNATURAL and we cannot fully understand him and his ways."

YOU ARE EQUIVALENT TO A CHILD WHO CLINGS DESPERATELY TO THE SANTA CLAUSE FABLE.

[Anonymous]

Zionist Sniper » Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:12 pm
This board is useless ..... except as a tool for jew agents to infiltrate and keep you cats going in circles.

Og, shut this joke down. Its reached the point of being useless to the cause.

ZS

Okay, so let me get this straight:  You are a Zionist sniper and you want to shoot down some Christians, not because they are doing you evil, but because they refuse to conform to your religion or lack thereof.  Did I miss your point?

Or did you mean that the obvious 'attack-Jew' here is MSMD, and all he is doing is wasting everyone else's time trying to see how much of his piss he can get in crucified Jesus' face, trying to marginalize and split off the Christians as useless to the militant atheist cause (which apparently has a savior complex itself, since it proposes that it alone can save everyone).

No, not at all. I think this forum is at the point of being essentially useless for one simple reason.

Your not focusing on the one and only thing you should be at this point.

HOW ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE THESE PEOPLE OUT ?

The rest is bullshit.

ZS

[checkitb4uwreckit]

As for 'Silverman' post that was directed against no one in particular (though I do think it paints a broader and disparaging picture of atheism's movement in general )

As opposed to the state of the Christian movement in general?



At least that silverman guy is not making films affirming the holohoax fairy tale, like your Kike pals Ray "Jesus Freak" Comfort and Ben "Creationism" Stein.

Hmmm... know of any atheist organizations that are sending millions of $$$$ to Israel, and bribing American politicians to support Israel in order to fulfill some delusional "End Times" prophecies?

Nope.