Jews and Communism in South Africa

Started by checkitb4uwreckit, October 06, 2011, 09:31:41 PM

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checkitb4uwreckit

Ahh, the black nationalist who is helping non-white immigrants over-run White Sweden is back to spew more liberal Jew garbage.  :roll:

checkitb4uwreckit

Quote from: "Whaler"Yeah, It might be too late to save Moe Foe. The Jew-force is strong with this one. No amount of reasoning or evidence will sway him.

Yup, it's the equivalent to trying to convince a religious tard that the invisible man in the sky is imaginary. These type of people shun evidence.

Quote from: "Whaler"Now, in his infinite wisdom he is coming to TIU to chase off the 'raycissstts' and make sure his anti-white agenda(instincts) are fulfilled.

Yeah, I really think this guy is a Jew Whaler. Jews are incredibly persistent with their lies and denials, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.

checkitb4uwreckit

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Quote from: "Moe Foe"Jews prop up or indirectly control most white majorities in existence. They can't get enough of them.

Jews "prop up" White majorities? ROFL, you are out of your mind making this claim! The absolute opposite is true. Jews "prop up" non-white minorities, and have been doing so for hundreds of years. Jews led the civil rights movement in America as a Communist coup. Jews created and ran the NAACP and other black organizations. http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=472 As has been clearly demonstrated by the article posted in this thread, Jews "propped up" the blacks in South Africa and led the charge for their rise to power.

Jews are behind every anti-white agenda you can think of. In this Jew-inspired politically correct society Brown Pride is okay, but White pride is "hateful and rayciss". There are HUNDREDS of non-white groups in North America and Europe that organize on behalf of their ethnic interests. There are Jewish groups, Black groups, Hispanic groups, Asian groups, even Arab/Islamic groups that look out for their own ethnic interests in the (ex)WHITE nations in which they dwell. But are WHITES allowed to organize on behalf of our interests in OUR OWN NATIONS FORGED BY OUR PEOPLE? NOPE, we are called "racists" "haters" and "Nazis" by the Jewish-owned media. There are college funds and scholarships solely for non-white races but none for Whites-only. There are all-black universities in America, and these aren't called "racist". Imagine if there were still all-white universities how the Jew-media would be rallying against it. There is state-sponsored racism against Whites in America with efforts like Affirmative Action. In all White nations on earth Non-White minorities are afforded all kinds of special privileges and protection from criticism. The mainstream media is anti-white. Violent, racially motivated hate crimes perpetrated against White people by non-Whites are ignored, while so-called hate crimes against non-whites are invented. Jews have spearheaded this agenda.

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Jews can't "get enough" of white nations because they go where the getting is good and live off the backs of hard-working, nation-building Europeans. It's a parasitical relationship. Why don't Jews go live in Africa or Asia, MoFo? Why do Jews deliberately choose to live amongst Whites?

checkitb4uwreckit

Quote from: "Moe Foe"Why on earth would the Jews want to replace white power with black power when the white power structure was already in the palm of their hands? Why would they want to replace the elite few who they've already utterly corrupted with an unknown and unpredictable X factor with the popular support of millions?

Ask Harry Oppenheimer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of ... liberalism

QuoteThe prime example of the more moderate approach is that of the highly-assimilated Harry Oppenheimer (1908–2000) (born Jewish but converted to Anglicanism upon his marriage), the richest man in South Africa and the chairman of the De Beers and Anglo American corporations. He was a supporter of the liberal Progressive Party and its policies, believing that granting more freedom and economic growth to South Africa's Black African majority was good politics and sound economic policy. The banner for this cause was held high by Helen Suzman, as the lone Progressive Party member in South Africa's parliament, representing the voting district of Houghton, home to many wealthy Jewish families at the time.

Quote from: "Moe Foe"I haven't lied...anywhere

You just claimed that Jews "prop up" White majorities. That's an out-and-out lie and falsehood. The opposite is true. So, yes, you do lie, a lot. And you are lying again by claiming you haven't lied anywhere.

checkitb4uwreckit

Quote from: "Moe Foe"
Quote from: "Whaler"Yeah, It might be too late to save Moe Foe. The Jew-force is strong with this one. No amount of reasoning or evidence will sway him.

He wants to criticize Israel because deep down he knows it's the right thing to do. The Jews have provided him plenty of venues for Jew-friendly anti zionist resources and now he feels like he has it all figured out. He has been able to keep his liberal/white genocide agenda going while at the same time mildly opposing Israel  

Now, in his infinite wisdom he is coming to TIU to chase off the 'raycissstts' and make sure his anti-white agenda(instincts) are fulfilled.

1. You've shown very little reasoning and zero evidence.

All the evidence is in the OP, retard. To deny it is delusional. Jews were indeed behind the fall of White-rule in South Africa. Jewish sources confirm it.

Quote from: "Moe Foe"2. I don't think I have anything figured out.  My only purpose on this site is to learn.  The last thing I wanted was to get bogged down in an argument.  MSMD is only a kid so his hormones are probably at him but I was hoping that we could've had a healthy and frank discussion.   I am more than aware that my knowledge of SA is essentially nil beyond the surface.  I certainly don't claim to have it figured out.  

Riiight, meanwhile you arrogantly deny all evidences contrary to your Jew-shill position that Jews led the anti-apartheid crusade against White SA because they are "humanitarians rooting for the underdog." Clearly you're not here to "learn" anything but to "lead" topics in a Pro-Jew, Anti-White direction.

Quote3. I don't consider myself a liberal and the claim that I am in support of "white genocide" is paranoid and delusional.

Of course you deny that you're in favor of White genocide. That's the whole point is to deny that it's happening. You deny there is a genocide against Whites in South Africa, and you deny that the massive third world immigration invasion into all white nations will lead to the extinction of White Europeans if it continues. You not only support white genocide ideologically, but also physically as you have admitted you are aiding and abetting the non-white immigration invasion into White Sweden.

Quote4. If your done discussing this topic we'll leave it at that.  Your insults are water off a ducks back but I have better things to do with my time

Better things to do with your time, such as destroying Europe right?

Moe Foe

Quote from: "checkitb4uwreckit"Jews "prop up" White majorities? ROFL, you are out of your mind making this claim!
What I meant was that Jews are controlling white nations either overtly or covertly.  I'm fairly sure you don't disagree with this.

I couldn't be arsed replying to the rest of your rant because it has nothing to do with SA.

Moe Foe

Quote from: "checkitb4uwreckit"Ahh, the black nationalist who is helping non-white immigrants over-run White Sweden is back to spew more liberal Jew garbage.  :roll:
:lol:  Yeah.  How will white Sweden cope with immigrants who can speak their language?  :shock:   It's nothing got to do with non-white immigrants.  That assumption has come from your own small mind.  Why let the facts get in the way of your incessant paranoid, hyperbolic clap-trap though eh?

Moe Foe

Quote from: "checkitb4uwreckit"Yeah, I really think this guy is a Jew Whaler. Jews are incredibly persistent with their lies and denials, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.

Your taking the piss now...Speaking of looking ridiculous - It was last week that you were aggressively arguing against direct statements made by yourself a year ago.  You even said that the person making those statements (YOU  ;) ) had a "mental illness"  :crazy:

Speaking of denials - You've completely ignored the facts concerning the anti-Catholic/anti-Vatican agendas of the freemasons and the Communists because it doesn't fit in with your far-fetched little theories.

Moe Foe

Quote from: "checkitb4uwreckit"All the evidence is in the OP, retard. To deny it is delusional. Jews were indeed behind the fall of White-rule in South Africa. Jewish sources confirm it.
No it's not. 4 books you haven't read that lists some Jews that may or may not have been involved. Do you even understand the concept of the burden of proof

Quote from: "Moe Foe"2. I don't think I have anything figured out.  My only purpose on this site is to learn.  The last thing I wanted was to get bogged down in an argument.  MSMD is only a kid so his hormones are probably at him but I was hoping that we could've had a healthy and frank discussion.   I am more than aware that my knowledge of SA is essentially nil beyond the surface.  I certainly don't claim to have it figured out.  

Quote from: "checkitb4uwreckit"Riiight, meanwhile you arrogantly deny all evidences contrary to your Jew-shill position that Jews led the anti-apartheid crusade against White SA because they are "humanitarians rooting for the underdog." Clearly you're not here to "learn" anything but to "lead" topics in a Pro-Jew, Anti-White direction.
That can only be clear to  you if you have some kind of comprehension dificulties.   I haven't denied any evidence because you haven't provided any.  


Quote from: "checkitb4uwreckit"Of course you deny that you're in favor of White genocide. That's the whole point is to deny that it's happening. You deny there is a genocide against Whites in South Africa, and you deny that the massive third world immigration invasion into all white nations will lead to the extinction of White Europeans if it continues. You not only support white genocide ideologically, but also physically as you have admitted you are aiding and abetting the non-white immigration invasion into White Sweden.
:lol:  This is actually too ridiculous to respond to.

Whaler

Moe Foe, if you are here to learn and be open minded then you would acknowledge that Jews were at the forefront of "anti-Apartheid" movement. They were both leading and financing the effort to remove the white ruling majority because the Afrikaners have traditionally been suspicious of Jews. The OP has already given enough evidence to sufficiently convince a reasonable person of the Jewish leadership in the anti apartheid movement.

Here is some more evidence for you nitwit. Get your head out of your ass.

http://www.mindspring.com/~jaypsand/sa2.htm
QuoteBefore the Anglo-Boer war (1899-1901) the Afrikaners (also known as the Boers) called Jews uitlanders (foreigners); they did not allow uitlanders to vote or to attend Dutch Protestant schools. After the British defeated the Boers they allowed Jews the right to practice and granted the newly formed Jewish Board of Deputies substantial autonomy to determine their affairs.

From its inception in 1903, the Jewish Board of Deputies chose
to stay out of all political decisions that didn't directly affect the Jews. South Africa became a nation in 1910
and began to make policies to prohibit "undesirables" to immigrate. Specifically, the white government wanted to
stop Indians from immigrating but since they were British subjects they couldn't do so directly. The British
therefore developed a language test as a criterion for citizenship, which excluded most Indians, as well as
Yiddish-speaking Eastern Europeans, from immigrating. The Jewish community's protests convinced the government to
both add a second criterion for immigration -- economic viability -- and allow for prospective immigrants to take
the language test in Yiddish. The Jews fought for their own interests, but did nothing to improve the immigration
chances of the Indians.  

Quote
QuoteThe Communist Party and the ANC established underground headquarters at the Lilliesleaf farm home of Arthur Goldreich in the Johannesburg suburb of Rivonia. Nelson Mandela stayed there in the guise of a farm worker and it
was there that a military arm, Umkhonto we Sizwe (The Spear of the Nation), was conceived. Its High Command comprised Nelson Mandela, Govan Mbeki, Walter Sisulu, Raymond Mhlaba, Joe Slovo and Arthur Goldreich, who was selected because of his experience in the Israel army in 1948.

Significantly, all the whites arrested in this epoch-making event in 1963 at Lilliesleaf farm, were Jewish:
Arthur Goldreich, Rusty Bernstein, Dennis Goldberg, Bob Hepple, and Dr Hilliard Festenstein. Their trial in
October 1963, known as the Rivonia trial, resulted in the imprisonment of its leaders, including Nelson Mandela,
for life.

 

QuoteHarold Wolpe, a member of the Central Committee of the Communist Party, who was not at Lilliesleaf at the time,
was arrested a few days later. He and Goldreich escaped from Marshall Square police station and crossed the
border to Botswana.

Prior to 1967, Israel was a celebrated cause of the left. The nascent Jewish state, since its creation amid the ashes of Auschwitz, was widely recognized as a triumph for justice and human rights. Leftists across the world,
with the notable exception of those in Muslim nations, identified with the socialist pioneering spirit of the new nation. Africans welcomed Israeli development aid and voted in Israel's favor at the United Nations. Europeans for the most part supported the Jewish state, often out of socialist idealism or sheer guilt. Even Britain, which fought Jewish guerrilla organizations until the eve of Israel's independence in 1948, recognized the state of Israel in January 1949. Although the South African Jewish community became the largest per capita financial contributor to Israel after 1948, relations between the two countries' governments were cordial but chilly for
much of the 1950s.

In the 1960s, Israeli leaders' ideological hostility toward apartheid kept the two nations apart. During these
years, Israel took a strong and unequivocal stance against South Africa. In 1963, Foreign Minister Golda Meir told the United Nations General Assembly that Israelis "naturally oppose policies of apartheid, colonialism and racial or religious discrimination wherever they exist" due to Jews' historical experience as victims of oppression. Israel even offered asylum to South Africa's most wanted man.


In addition to condemning apartheid, Meir forged close ties with the newly independent states of Africa, offering them everything from agricultural assistance to military training. Many African leaders accepted invitations to Israel and some, impressed with the Israeli army, decided to hire Israeli bodyguards. African states returned the favor by voting with Israel at the U.N. in an era when the Jewish state had few diplomatic allies. At the time, black American leaders such as Martin Luther King Jr. were also outspoken in their support of Israel, likening criticism of Zionism to anti-Semitism.

Things began to change with Israel's stunning victory over its Arab neighbors in the Six-Day War of 1967, which

tripled the size of the Jewish state in less than a week. The post-1967 military occupation of Egyptian,

Jordanian, and Syrian territory and the settlement project that soon followed planted hundreds of thousands of

Jews on hilltops and in urban centers throughout the newly conquered West Bank and Gaza Strip, saddling Israel

with the stigma of occupation and forever tarring it with the colonialist brush.




QuoteForeign Ministry officials in Israel did not always approve of close ties with South Africa, but it was the
defense establishments— not the diplomatic corps— that managed the alliance. The military's dominance was so
complete that the Israeli embassy in Pretoria was divided by a wall through which no member of the diplomatic
corps was allowed to pass. Only when opponents of apartheid within the Israeli government sought to bring down
that wall in the late 1980s did the alliance begin to crumble.
http://mondoweiss.net/2010/05/excerpt-f ... frica.html

Legendary Heroes of Africa

In the anti Apartheid South African Liberation struggle, it was estimated that Jews were over represented by 2,500 percent in their proportion to the governing population. This stamp issue acknowledges the extraordinary sacrifices made by Jews to the liberation of their African brethren, and these stamps recognize some of the most significant contributors to global humanity in the 20th Century.

http://legendaryheroesofafrica.com/

checkitb4uwreckit

Great post Whaler. Of course, this fool will deny it all, claim it's not sufficient "proof" even though it is overwhelming. Evidence is only valid or convincing when it supports his Jew-shill position, you see. That's how Jews always debate.



Transvaal President Paul Kruger on Jew monopolists:
QuoteSpeeches made by President Kruger in 1899 prove that he knew that the Jews, not the British, were his real enemies. "If it were conceivable," he said, speaking in Johannesburg marketplace, in February, "to eject the Jew monopolist from this country neck and crop without incurring war with Great Britain, then the problem of everlasting peace would be solved." http://iamthewitness.com/books/Arnold.L ... d.Gold.htm

checkitb4uwreckit

Quote from: "Moe Foe"
Quote from: "checkitb4uwreckit"Jews "prop up" White majorities? ROFL, you are out of your mind making this claim!
What I meant was that Jews are controlling white nations either overtly or covertly.  I'm fairly sure you don't disagree with this.

That's not what you wrote. Now you are changing the meaning of your words because you've been caught in a lie. Jews control the governments of White nations mainly because of liberal douche bags like you who rallied for their admittance into our nations back in the day. And, don't try to pretend that Jews don't control your "African brothers" and Black communities amidst White nations because they do. Jews and Blacks have teamed up in many instances against Whites resisting their control.

Quote from: "Moe Foe"I couldn't be arsed replying to the rest of your rant because it has nothing to do with SA.

No, you couldn't be "arsed" to reply because you have no rebuttal to the fact that Jews have and are propping up non-white minorities in White nations.

CrackSmokeRepublican

Great posts Whaler and MSMD.... this story is done... Violence today across the world against Whites shouldn't be suffered with Jew propaganda covering it up... innumerable crimes occur against Whites that go unnoticed in the Jew Media today. Hypocrisy abounds on this fact.  

Jews are and forever will be parasites on White countries... from the left or the right... much of the evidence of corruption, double-standards,  and duplicity is self-evident. This is simply FACT at this point. --CSR
After the Revolution of 1905, the Czar had prudently prepared for further outbreaks by transferring some $400 million in cash to the New York banks, Chase, National City, Guaranty Trust, J.P.Morgan Co., and Hanover Trust. In 1914, these same banks bought the controlling number of shares in the newly organized Federal Reserve Bank of New York, paying for the stock with the Czar\'s sequestered funds. In November 1917,  Red Guards drove a truck to the Imperial Bank and removed the Romanoff gold and jewels. The gold was later shipped directly to Kuhn, Loeb Co. in New York.-- Curse of Canaan

Moe Foe

Quote from: "checkitb4uwreckit"
Quote from: "Moe Foe"
Quote from: "checkitb4uwreckit"Jews "prop up" White majorities? ROFL, you are out of your mind making this claim!
What I meant was that Jews are controlling white nations either overtly or covertly.  I'm fairly sure you don't disagree with this.

That's not what you wrote. Now you are changing the meaning of your words because you've been caught in a lie. Jews control the governments of White nations mainly because of liberal douche bags like you who rallied for their admittance into our nations back in the day. And, don't try to pretend that Jews don't control your "African brothers" and Black communities amidst White nations because they do. Jews and Blacks have teamed up in many instances against Whites resisting their control.

Quote from: "Moe Foe"I couldn't be arsed replying to the rest of your rant because it has nothing to do with SA.

No, you couldn't be "arsed" to reply because you have no rebuttal to the fact that Jews have and are propping up non-white minorities in White nations.

This is really desperate, it's really pathethic you have to cling to an ambiguous statement and twist the meaning.  I said Jews prop up white majorities, meaning white Governments of white majority states.  I was using this defintion, and therefore am not changing any meaning or lying.

to help a government, system, organization etc to continue to exist, especially by providing financial or military support
http://www.macmillandictionary.com/dict ... sh/prop-up

Take your homeland for example - Canada, a white majority state.  Would you say that Jews don't "prop-up" your government?

checkitb4uwreckit

Quote from: "Moe Foe"This is really desperate, it's really pathethic you have to cling to an ambiguous statement and twist the meaning.

Actually you're the one that's desperate. I didn't twist the meaning I simply responded to exactly what you wrote. You said Jews prop up "White majorities" as in White people around the world. It's you that has to "twist the meaning" to explain away this lie.

Quote from: "Moe Foe"I said Jews prop up white majorities, meaning white Governments of white majority states.  I was using this defintion, and therefore am not changing any meaning or lying.

If you meant White governments then why didn't you say "White governments"? You said "White majorities." Also, another problem with your explanation for this lie, is that there are no "White governments" anymore. the governments of formerly White nations are filled with Jews and Non-Whites so how exactly are you going to claim that Jews prop up "White governments" when none really exist?

QuoteTake your homeland for example - Canada, a white majority state.  Would you say that Jews don't "prop-up" your government?

Jews prop up politicians who support Jew agendas and Israel. Could be White or Non-White, doesn't make much of a difference when it comes to Jew puppets. The fact that you single out Whites as somehow more complicit with Jews than Non-Whites demonstrates your anti-White attitudes. If a group of non-Whites work with the Jews to carry out an agenda you defend the agenda, as you do with South Africa and the immigration invasion into White countries. But if Whites are used as pawns to carry out a Jew agenda you blanket condemn all Whites. If you're going to do that hypocritical shit then at least come right out and admit you're anti-White instead of pretending you're not. Be a man.

Jews are working day and night to destroy the White majority of Canada, the United States, Australia, New Zealand, Europe and Russia, through massive third world non-white immigration and oppressive laws limiting the freedoms of specifically White people. You are complicit with this agenda in more ways than one. Therefore, you are nothing more than a Jew dupe. You are an enemy.

Moe Foe

Quote from: "checkitb4uwreckit"Actually you're the one that's desperate. I didn't twist the meaning I simply responded to exactly what you wrote. You said Jews prop up "White majorities" as in White people around the world. It's you that has to "twist the meaning" to explain away this lie.  

Give it a rest.  You even have to twist the definition of "lie" to suit your agenda.  This is what I said "

This is laughable. Jews prop up or indirectly control most white majorities in existence. They can't get enough of them.


In direct response to this:
Quote Whaler wrote: In fact, Jews instinctively know that there is a potential of a backlash when whites are in a ruling majority because they have experienced it 109 times....

As can be quite clearly observed I was speaking of "ruling majorities" i.e. governments when I mentioned "white majorities".  But as I said why let the facts get in the way?

To keep this on topic the Boers themselves were "propped-up" by Jews.  When they first discovered gold in the Transvaal in the 1890s the Boers were heavily indebted and couldn't obtain any credit to mine the gold.  So Kruger obtained a loan from his Jewish best friend Sam Marks.  A Jew, Sam Marks, therefore "propped-up" the Boers.  Geddit' now?

Quote from: "checkitb4uwreckit"Jews prop up politicians who support Jew agendas and Israel. Could be White or Non-White, doesn't make much of a difference when it comes to Jew puppets.
I agree.  So what do you make of Jews propping up The Boers then?

Quote from: "checkitb4uwreckit"The fact that you single out Whites as somehow more complicit with Jews than Non-Whites demonstrates your anti-White attitudes. If a group of non-Whites work with the Jews to carry out an agenda you defend the agenda, as you do with South Africa and the immigration invasion into White countries. But if Whites are used as pawns to carry out a Jew agenda you blanket condemn all Whites. If you're going to do that hypocritical shit then at least come right out and admit you're anti-White instead of pretending you're not. Be a man.
I'm not anti-white.  You've gotta get out of this tunnel vision thing you got going on.  I've never condemned all whites.  I'm stating the self-evident fact that whites who aren't actually representative are today and historically been some of the most useful tools of the Jews.

Quote from: "checkitb4uwreckit"Jews are working day and night to destroy the White majority of Canada, the United States, Australia, New Zealand, Europe and Russia, through massive third world non-white immigration and oppressive laws limiting the freedoms of specifically White people. You are complicit with this agenda in more ways than one. Therefore, you are nothing more than a Jew dupe. You are an enemy.
Your narcissm makes me laugh.  :up:

checkitb4uwreckit

Quote from: "Moe Foe"Give it a rest.  You even have to twist the definition of "lie" to suit your agenda.  This is what I said "

This is laughable. Jews prop up or indirectly control most white majorities in existence. They can't get enough of them.


In direct response to this:
Quote Whaler wrote: In fact, Jews instinctively know that there is a potential of a backlash when whites are in a ruling majority because they have experienced it 109 times....

As can be quite clearly observed I was speaking of "ruling majorities" i.e. governments when I mentioned "white majorities".  But as I said why let the facts get in the way?

Nothing can be "clearly observed" from your statement. You didn't mention government, you said "White majorities." And even if you meant government, which I don't believe you did, that still wouldn't make any sense because there are no "White governments" anymore. Your paltry explanation for this lie is a joke.

Quote from: "Moe Foe"I'm not anti-white.  You've gotta get out of this tunnel vision thing you got going on.  I've never condemned all whites.  I'm stating the self-evident fact that whites who aren't actually representative are today and historically been some of the most useful tools of the Jews.

Yes, you are anti-white and proud of it. Look at your sig moron, you're flaunting the White Genocide motto. And you have condemned all Whites, you just said Jews "can't get enough" of White nations and White majorities. As for Jew-tools, many different races have been used as pawns for the Jew, including your beloved negroes. Jews have attached themselves to white nations historically, like a tape worm attached to our bowels, so one would expect to see more Jew agendas manifest from these countries. If Jews decided to attach themselves to the Asians for the past thousand years you'd be seeing the Asians doing most of their dirty work. The fact that you single out Whites in this manner makes it pretty obvious you are anti-White.

Moe Foe

Quote from: "checkitb4uwreckit"Nothing can be "clearly observed" from your statement. You didn't mention government, you said "White majorities." And even if you meant government, which I don't believe you did, that still wouldn't make any sense because there are no "White governments" anymore. Your paltry explanation for this lie is a joke.
Apparently I should have said this can be "clearly observed" by any reasonable person who understands context.  

Quote from: "checkitb4uwreckit"Yes, you are anti-white and proud of it. Look at your sig moron, you're flaunting the White Genocide motto.
It's called satire - buy a dictionary.

Quote from: "Moe Foe"And you have condemned all Whites, you just said Jews "can't get enough" of White nations and White majorities.
I said it because it's true.  You've confirmed it yourself (below).  Jews leech and corrupt the elite ruling classes and power structure of primarily white gentile states.  The same today as throughout history.

Quote from: "checkitb4uwreckit"And As for Jew-tools, many different races have been used as pawns for the Jew, including your beloved negroes. Jews have attached themselves to white nations historically, like a tape worm attached to our bowels, so one would expect to see more Jew agendas manifest from these countries. If Jews decided to attach themselves to the Asians for the past thousand years you'd be seeing the Asians doing most of their dirty work. The fact that you single out Whites in this manner makes it pretty obvious you are anti-White.
You've just confirmed my point I made to Whaler.   :up: That white nation states are generally no obstacle to Jewish goals.  Therefore there is no reason to overthrow them and replace them with an unknown factor as in the case of SA.

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You ignored this point:


To keep this on topic the Boers themselves were "propped-up" by Jews. When they first discovered gold in the Transvaal in the 1890s the Boers were heavily indebted and couldn't obtain any credit to mine the gold. So Kruger obtained a loan from his Jewish best friend Sam Marks. A Jew, Sam Marks, therefore "propped-up" the Boers. Geddit' now?

 So what do you make of Jews propping up The Boers then?

Moe Foe

Quote from: "CrackSmokeRepublican"Jews are and forever will be parasites on White countries... from the left or the right... much of the evidence of corruption, double-standards,  and duplicity is self-evident. This is simply FACT at this point. --CSR

I completely agree, except that South Africa isn't and never was a "White country".

checkitb4uwreckit

Quote from: "Moe Foe"So what do you make of Jews propping up The Boers then?

If the Boers were Jew-pawns then why did they fight two wars against the British, who definitely were Jew-pawns?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boer_Wars

Is this something a Jew-pawn would say?

Quote"If it were conceivable," he said, speaking in Johannesburg marketplace, in February, "to eject the Jew monopolist from this country neck and crop without incurring war with Great Britain, then the problem of everlasting peace would be solved." -Paul Kruger, Transvaal President

QuoteThat white nation states are generally no obstacle to Jewish goals. Therefore there is no reason to overthrow them and replace them with an unknown factor as in the case of SA.

The Jews were only expelled from 79 locations 109 times, mostly by White Gentiles, but yeah Whites are no obstacle for the Jews huh? Retard.

It's already been overwhelmingly demonstrated that Jews led the charge to overthrow White SA. You can deny it until your blue in the face, all you're doing is showing you  Jew/Commie  colors.  ;)

checkitb4uwreckit

Quote from: "Moe Foe"
Quote from: "CrackSmokeRepublican"Jews are and forever will be parasites on White countries... from the left or the right... much of the evidence of corruption, double-standards,  and duplicity is self-evident. This is simply FACT at this point. --CSR

I completely agree, except that South Africa isn't and never was a "White country".

South Africa wasn't even a country until Whites founded it, genius. So it's certainly not a "black country." Though, that doesn't stop you from claiming that it is.

Sweden's a white country, yet you're trying to make it a Brown country while you hypocritically champion the Black cause in South Africa, and pretty much any non-white nationalism.

Why aren't you helping non-Arab immigrants settle in the Middle-East or non-black immigrants settle in Africa? Because you're a Jewish agent of the anti-White agenda.

Moe Foe

Quote from: "Whaler"Moe Foe, if you are here to learn and be open minded then you would acknowledge that Jews were at the forefront of "anti-Apartheid" movement.
As I've already explained numerous times: Jews were at the forefront of  the SACP.  Jews were not at the forefront of the ANC.  Both were allied BUT NOT THE SAME.  Both were anti-apartheid, BUT NOT THE SAME.  The ANC were at the forefront of the anti-apartheid movement.  The SACP played a key supporting role.  

Quote from: "Whaler"They were both leading and financing the effort to remove the white ruling majority because the Afrikaners have traditionally been suspicious of Jews. The OP has already given enough evidence to sufficiently convince a reasonable person of the Jewish leadership in the anti apartheid movement.  
Again your conflating legitimate nationalism by the natives with international Communism.  Please try to understand the difference.


Quote from: "Whaler"Before the Anglo-Boer war (1899-1901) the Afrikaners (also known as the Boers) called Jews uitlanders (foreigners); they did not allow uitlanders to vote or to attend Dutch Protestant schools. After the British defeated the Boers they allowed Jews the right to practice and granted the newly formed Jewish Board of Deputies substantial autonomy to determine their affairs.[/b]
This is a classic case of half-truths and propoganda.  Pay attention:  Before the Anglo-Boer the Boers called EVERYONE
who wasn't a naturalised citizen an uitlander.  It had nothing to do with skin colour religion or anything else.  If I as an ethnic european travelled back in time to the Boer republics and if you travelled from North America we would both be uitlanders.  The Boers were a small minority amongst the overall white majority within the Boer Republics.  In other words, there were more British, Americans (uitlanders) , Germans etc than there were Boers.  Uitlanders payed the majority of taxes to the Boer treasury yet had little to no rights.

The second point in that brief paragraph is the deception tactics used.  "After the British defeated the Boers they allowed Jews the right to practice" sneakily implies that the Boers didn't allow the Jews to practice.  This is a falsehood.  I'll try to return to the rest later,

checkitb4uwreckit

Quote from: "Moe Foe"
Quote from: "Whaler"Moe Foe, if you are here to learn and be open minded then you would acknowledge that Jews were at the forefront of "anti-Apartheid" movement.
As I've already explained numerous times: Jews were at the forefront of  the SACP.  Jews were not at the forefront of the ANC.  Both were allied BUT NOT THE SAME.  Both were anti-apartheid, BUT NOT THE SAME.  The ANC were at the forefront of the anti-apartheid movement.  The SACP played a key supporting role.

The ANC were simply the Negro front-men for the anti-White Jewish Commie crusaders in South Africa.

Moe Foe

Quote from: "checkitb4uwreckit"The ANC were simply the Negro front-men for the anti-White Jewish Commie crusaders in South Africa.

Ok.  Show me why.  And then tell me who the legitimate Black nationalists were/are if not the ANC.

Moe Foe

Quote from: "checkitb4uwreckit"South Africa wasn't even a country until Whites founded it, genius. So it's certainly not a "black country." Though, that doesn't stop you from claiming that it is.
Yeah and there were no Palestinians in the promised land before the Nakhba right  :lol:  Like I said before white supremacists and Jewish supremacists  - two sides of the same "chosen" coin.

Your disingeniously fuzzying the relatively modern notion of the nation state with that which naturally proceeds it  - a native population.  A black native population.

Quote from: "checkitb4uwreckit"Sweden's a white country, yet you're trying to make it a Brown country while you hypocritically champion the Black cause in South Africa, and pretty much any non-white nationalism.

Why aren't you helping non-Arab immigrants settle in the Middle-East or non-black immigrants settle in Africa? Because you're a Jewish agent of the anti-White agenda.

Because I don't live in the middle-east or Africa.  The commute to work would be too far.  And I'll think you'll find that it would be the Job of the "jewish agent" to help non-Arab immigrants settle in the Middle East i.e. Israel.  Really, you must put more thought into what you say.

checkitb4uwreckit

Quote from: "Moe Foe"
Quote from: "checkitb4uwreckit"The ANC were simply the Negro front-men for the anti-White Jewish Commie crusaders in South Africa.

Ok.  Show me why.  And then tell me who the legitimate Black nationalists were/are if not the ANC.

We've already demonstrated why, you just deny it and make pathetic excuses for it. You're like a Jew who just won't hear that the holocaust is b.s.

Moe Foe

Quote from: "checkitb4uwreckit"If the Boers were Jew-pawns then why did they fight two wars against the British, who definitely were Jew-pawns?
Now we are finally getting somewhere.  This is what I am trying to figure out.  

Quote from: "checkitb4uwreckit"Is this something a Jew-pawn would say?

Quote"If it were conceivable," he said, speaking in Johannesburg marketplace, in February, "to eject the Jew monopolist from this country neck and crop without incurring war with Great Britain, then the problem of everlasting peace would be solved." -Paul Kruger, Transvaal President

No it's not, but what it does show is that you have a minimal to non-existant standard of evidence provided the "evidence" supports your narrow minded agenda.

That is an unsourced quote and as such means nothing as there is nothing to back up that it ever was said.

Quote from: "checkitb4uwreckit"The Jews were only expelled from 79 locations 109 times, mostly by White Gentiles, but yeah Whites are no obstacle for the Jews huh? Retard.
I know you are not long out of the school yard yourself but these childish ad-homs achieve nothing.  That aside, please then list the top ten governments in majority white states today that are an obstacle to Jewish goals.

Quote from: "checkitb4uwreckit"It's already been overwhelmingly demonstrated that Jews led the charge to overthrow White SA. You can deny it until your blue in the face, all you're doing is showing you  Jew/Commie  colors.  ;)
It hasn't even underwhelmingly been show that Jews led anything other than the SACP/trade unions in South Africa. I'd happily accept and take on board any proof you present.

Moe Foe

Quote from: "checkitb4uwreckit"We've already demonstrated why, you just deny it and make pathetic excuses for it. You're like a Jew who just won't hear that the holocaust is b.s.

Point out specifically what you've said that proves this.  I haven't seen anything.

checkitb4uwreckit

Quote from: "Moe Foe"Your disingeniously fuzzying the relatively modern notion of the nation state with that which naturally proceeds it  - a native population.  A black native population.

The native population of Sweden are Whites, yet you are trying to make it Brown. You oppose European Nationalist groups, yet support Negro nationalism across Africa, Arab nationalism across the middle-east, etc. I guess you're comfortable with this outrageous double-standard being that you are an anti-white Khazar Jew.  ;)

btw, the Chinese are now economically colonizing Africa, I wonder why you're silent on the matter Mr. Black Nationalist?  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/pers ... frica.html

It's only when Whites can be labeled the big bad colonizers do you speak out against it, because you're anti-white.

QuoteBecause I don't live in the middle-east or Africa.

Why not if you love blacks and non-whites so much? Go there.

I know why you choose to live among the Whites you hate so much...


QuoteAnd I'll think you'll find that it would be the Job of the "jewish agent" to help non-Arab immigrants settle in the Middle East i.e. Israel.

But it's not the job of a Jewish agent to help non-whites settle in Europe? Who are you trying to fool Shlomo?

checkitb4uwreckit

Quote from: "Moe Foe"
Quote"If it were conceivable," he said, speaking in Johannesburg marketplace, in February, "to eject the Jew monopolist from this country neck and crop without incurring war with Great Britain, then the problem of everlasting peace would be solved." -Paul Kruger, Transvaal President

No it's not, but what it does show is that you have a minimal to non-existant standard of evidence provided the "evidence" supports your narrow minded agenda.

That is an unsourced quote and as such means nothing as there is nothing to back up that it ever was said.

I already posted this quote and the source earlier in the thread dipshit, Gentile Folly: The Rothschild's by Arnold Leese http://iamthewitness.com/books/Arnold.L ... d.Gold.htm


Quote from: "moe foe"
Quote from: "checkitb4uwreckit"It's already been overwhelmingly demonstrated that Jews led the charge to overthrow White SA. You can deny it until your blue in the face, all you're doing is showing you  Jew/Commie  colors.  ;)
It hasn't even underwhelmingly been show that Jews led anything other than the SACP/trade unions in South Africa. I'd happily accept and take on board any proof you present.

Now you're just playing dumb:
QuoteThe Communist Party and the ANC established underground headquarters at the Lilliesleaf farm home of Arthur Goldreich in the Johannesburg suburb of Rivonia. Nelson Mandela stayed there in the guise of a farm worker and it was there that a military arm, Umkhonto we Sizwe (The Spear of the Nation), was conceived. Its High Command comprised Nelson Mandela, Govan Mbeki, Walter Sisulu, Raymond Mhlaba, Joe Slovo and Arthur Goldreich, who was selected because of his experience in the Israel army in 1948.

Significantly, all the whites arrested in this epoch-making event in 1963 at Lilliesleaf farm, were Jewish: Arthur Goldreich, Rusty Bernstein, Dennis Goldberg, Bob Hepple, and Dr Hilliard Festenstein. Their trial in October 1963, known as the Rivonia trial, resulted in the imprisonment of its leaders, including Nelson Mandela, for life.

Mandela/Slovo - Puppet/Puppetmaster


Both Joe Slovo and Ronnie Kasrils were high ranking members of the Communist Party and the ANC.

QuoteSlovo was a leading theoretician in both the SACP and the ANC. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Slovo#Life

QuoteIn 1969 Slovo was appointed to the ANC's revolutionary council (a position he held until 1983, when it was dissolved). He helped draft strategy documents and was considered the ANC's main theoretician. http://africanhistory.about.com/od/joes ... eSlovo.htm

QuoteThe Sharpeville massacre radicalised Kasrils against the Apartheid system and he joined the African National Congress (ANC) in 1960, becoming secretary of the Congress of Democrats in Natal in 1961, the same year he joined the South African Communist Party. In 1962, he received a five-year banning order prohibiting him from public speaking. He was a founding member of Umkhonto we Sizwe (MK) as member of Natal Regional Command during the same year. He became the commander of Natal Regional Command in 1963. He underwent military training in 1964 in Odessa, USSR and at the end of 1965 was sent to London to work for the movement there. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronnie_Kas ... d_Activism

@5:09 of this video a group of young Black Communists chant the "kill the boers" song. Amidst the hateful hymn they say "Communist Party - victory" ... "Joe Slovo - our father"...
[youtube:ubq998z5]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT4SLj5l3f0[/youtube]ubq998z5]