Charles Giuliani: A Nihilist Saboteur of the Truth Movement?

Started by Timothy_Fitzpatrick, March 19, 2012, 02:07:51 AM

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sullivan

Quote from: "LordLindsey"God, I am SO SICK of this.  14 fucking pages of nothing but people who are "SUPPOSED" to be wise to the tricks and the traps of these creatues falling-for their divide-and-conquer strategies.
Exactly. Call it by its name. Divide et impera.
"The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities, states and nation. At the head is a small group of banking houses generally referred to as \'international bankers.\' This little coterie... run our government for their own selfish ends. It operates under cover of a self-created screen, seizes our executive officers, legislative bodies, schools, courts, newspapers and every agency created for the public protection."
John F. Hylan (1868-1936) - Former Mayor of New York City

sullivan

Quote from: "phishna"[size=150]If you have a burning desire to be free then it would behove you to ditch Christianity because it is a slave religion that tells you to obey, pay taxes, follow the law, etc.  

I do not pay taxes because taxes are LEVIed by Jews for Jews and their treachery and their endless wars.  I try not to use Jew fake money because I know it is a scam who's intention is inflation and fraud
First off, just because you put text in large lettering with red colouring doesn't make it any more true. What it does do is make it less legible.  I'm curious to know how you get away with paying no taxes and not using money. How do you pay for your internet connection, for instance? I'm not making any case for our current money system (I hate it) but claims like yours need to be teased out.
"The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities, states and nation. At the head is a small group of banking houses generally referred to as \'international bankers.\' This little coterie... run our government for their own selfish ends. It operates under cover of a self-created screen, seizes our executive officers, legislative bodies, schools, courts, newspapers and every agency created for the public protection."
John F. Hylan (1868-1936) - Former Mayor of New York City

sullivan

Quote from: "Christopher Marlowe"It is my sincere belief that the very person that Giuliani is lying about: Jesus Christ, is the only answer to the world's problems.
How can it be a lie when it is an opinion, the veracity of which is impossible to prove one way or the other?

QuoteJesus is THE answer.
That is your opinion, one which you are entitled to. Don't expect others to share it though.

QuoteSo it makes me wonder why Giuliani is blaspheming the Lord Jesus instead of just talking about the Jewish problem.
It is only blasphemy (a "crime" made up by those who have religious beliefs that they want put beyond examination, critique or ridicule) if you believe in Jesus.
"The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities, states and nation. At the head is a small group of banking houses generally referred to as \'international bankers.\' This little coterie... run our government for their own selfish ends. It operates under cover of a self-created screen, seizes our executive officers, legislative bodies, schools, courts, newspapers and every agency created for the public protection."
John F. Hylan (1868-1936) - Former Mayor of New York City

Christopher Marlowe

Quote from: "sullivan"
Quote from: "Christopher Marlowe"It is my sincere belief that the very person that Giuliani is lying about: Jesus Christ, is the only answer to the world's problems.
How can it be a lie when it is an opinion, the veracity of which is impossible to prove one way or the other?

Not so fast. Someone can have an opinion, and proof can be made that the person holds this opinion. For example:
G says X is a "communist".
X denies G's claim.
G refutes this by showing several letters to the editor where X promotes Stalin; G shows X waving a flag with a hammer and sickle; G calls several witnesses who say they heard X claiming to be a communist; G presents a communist party card signed by X.  

That would be objective proof of X's professed opinion about himself.  

In this case, Giuliani and Phishna claim that Christianity promotes Judaism.  I have offered many sources to show that this is not true. They have offered weak proof that has been refuted. Phishna doesn't deal in facts or respond to evidence, but only persists in his own opinion.    
Quote from: "sullivan"
Quote from: "Christopher Marlowe"Jesus is THE answer.
That is your opinion, one which you are entitled to. Don't expect others to share it though.

I don't expect everyone to share my beliefs.  But I was stating the importance of Jesus Christ in this matter.  Jesus Christ is the only way to defeat evil, and P and G are attempting to use lies and slander to turn people away from Christ.  
Quote from: "sullivan"
Quote from: "Christopher Marlowe"So it makes me wonder why Giuliani is blaspheming the Lord Jesus instead of just talking about the Jewish problem.
It is only blasphemy (a "crime" made up by those who have religious beliefs that they want put beyond examination, critique or ridicule) if you believe in Jesus.
This is an example of ignoring the substance of the question. Why are Giuliani and Phishna complaining about Jesus when everyone knows that the banking/MIC/terror problem is a Jewish problem?  This is like AJ pointing at the Arabs owning Hollywood.  It is a distraction and it is a lie.  Whether or not you think it is blasphemy is irrelevant.
And, as their wealth increaseth, so inclose
    Infinite riches in a little room

sullivan

Quote from: "Christopher Marlowe"I don't expect everyone to share my beliefs.  But I was stating the importance of Jesus Christ in this matter.  Jesus Christ is the only way to defeat evil, and P and G are attempting to use lies and slander to turn people away from Christ.
You are stating your perception of the importance of Jesus Christ in this matter.  Your accusation of lies and slander are baseless, unless either of the two know that what they are turning people away from is the truth, which is patently not the case.
Quote from: "Christopher Marlowe"This is an example of ignoring the substance of the question. Why are Giuliani and Phishna complaining about Jesus when everyone knows that the banking/MIC/terror problem is a Jewish problem?  This is like AJ pointing at the Arabs owning Hollywood.  It is a distraction and it is a lie.  Whether or not you think it is blasphemy is irrelevant.
I certainly wouldn't concentrate on Christianity, but then again, I'm not in the United States, where large swathes of Christians give tacit if not outright support to the Zionist/Jewish cause. It is all very well for you to say they are not Christians, but the fact remains that they claim they are, and are perceived as such.
"The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities, states and nation. At the head is a small group of banking houses generally referred to as \'international bankers.\' This little coterie... run our government for their own selfish ends. It operates under cover of a self-created screen, seizes our executive officers, legislative bodies, schools, courts, newspapers and every agency created for the public protection."
John F. Hylan (1868-1936) - Former Mayor of New York City

Timothy_Fitzpatrick

Quote from: "sullivan"
Quote from: "Michael K."It appears to me that this Murdoch (Rupert Murdock is a Jew, btw) woman is ...
Right at the off you discredit everything you say by prefacing it with this trash.  Rupert Murdoch is Jewish through his mother, whose surname was Greene. Murdoch is a Scottish surname, so if you are attempting to link one to the other to support your argument, you've failed miserably.

It's rather disingenuous of you to single out this sincere speculation on the part of Michael K; meanwhile, you are likely fully aware that Acharya S promotes the cult of theosophy. But why open that can of worms, right? It only makes the Christ mythers look hypocritical. And theosophy fits right in with the Jewish "olam ha ba" (world to come) with its coming of the "Age of Aquarius." How do you think the Jews were able to control Hitler? Theosophy could be considered Hitler's biggest mistake. From where else do you think he derived the swastika?
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Christopher Marlowe

Quote from: "sullivan"
Quote from: "Christopher Marlowe"I don't expect everyone to share my beliefs.  But I was stating the importance of Jesus Christ in this matter.  Jesus Christ is the only way to defeat evil, and P and G are attempting to use lies and slander to turn people away from Christ.
You are stating your perception of the importance of Jesus Christ in this matter.  Your accusation of lies and slander are baseless, unless either of the two know that what they are turning people away from is the truth, which is patently not the case.
Don't ignore the whole argument and take one quote out of context.  Go back and read my example.

1. Giuliani is making a false claim, and it has been proven false.
2. If G makes a false claim about what a religion represents, that is a lie.
3. G is making a defamatory statement about Jesus, and that is slander.

If I claimed that Judaism actually teaches that Jesus is the Messiah, that would be a lie.  It doesn't matter that Judaism is a belief system: I would be falsely representing what that belief teaches.  

I don't have to prove that the belief system is true, merely that the belief has been falsely represented.  I don't have to prove that G is turning X amount of people away.  It is obvious that this is his INTENT.  
Quote from: "sullivan"
Quote from: "Christopher Marlowe"This is an example of ignoring the substance of the question. Why are Giuliani and Phishna complaining about Jesus when everyone knows that the banking/MIC/terror problem is a Jewish problem?  This is like AJ pointing at the Arabs owning Hollywood.  It is a distraction and it is a lie.  Whether or not you think it is blasphemy is irrelevant.
I certainly wouldn't concentrate on Christianity,
Not only would you not concentrate on Christianity, but you CERTAINLY would not. Why? Because it is a ridiculous charge.
Quote from: "sullivan"but then again, I'm not in the United States, where large swathes of Christians give tacit if not outright support to the Zionist/Jewish cause. It is all very well for you to say they are not Christians, but the fact remains that they claim they are, and are perceived as such.
But this very point could be used to argue that "Americans" in general are supportive of zionist Jews, and G could point his finger at the Americans.  And we would still be wasting our time because the problem is the shitty little country that is running America.
And, as their wealth increaseth, so inclose
    Infinite riches in a little room

phishna

Quote from: "Christopher Marlowe"I don't expect everyone to share my beliefs.  But I was stating the importance of Jesus Christ in this matter.  Jesus Christ is the only way to defeat evil, and P and G are attempting to use lies and slander to turn people away from Christ.  

This is an example of ignoring the substance of the question. Why are Giuliani and Phishna complaining about Jesus when everyone knows that the banking/MIC/terror problem is a Jewish problem?  This is like AJ pointing at the Arabs owning Hollywood.  It is a distraction and it is a lie.  Whether or not you think it is blasphemy is irrelevant.

OK lets start over, we agree the Jews are the problem.  You agree right?  I think that the Jewish holy books are the problem because obviously the reason the Jews are bad is not DNA but the memes of their books.  The Jews are evil because they read, memorize, and practice the Torah and Talmud.  

                                         <Disclaimer:  The use of the word Jew refers to someone that practices Judaism.>

So if we go further down the rabbit hole, we discover that the Jews are lying about Jesus the savior god.  All the attributes of Jesus are from previous older myths AND their is no historical evidence of Jesus the man/god.  So as a rational human being I conclude that Jesus is a fictional character.  So if you want to believe that is your business BUT I will not accept your argument "Jesus Christ is the only way to defeat evil, and P and G are attempting to use lies and slander to turn people away from Christ.  ".  I am not trying to slander your god or make up lies.  Can you see that?  And I have a right to question the authenticity of Jesus because it is now known that the Jews are liars, big time liars who lie and use deceit everywhere.

Furthermore I can also argue that Jesus isn't real based on the attributes you have assigned to Jesus.  If Jesus was real and god then how do you explain the 70 million Evangelicals who believe in Jesus but no longer follow the teachings of Jesus?  A foaming at the mouth Zionist warmonger is not anything like Jesus.  According to Christians, they profess a real relationship with the Jesus god, and since god is omniscient and omnipotent then that means god can speak into the mind of a human, and influence a human with the truth.  So taking an objective look at modern (apostate) Christian we can safely conclude Jesus took the last train to the coast and is long gone, or never was, lol.

Furthermore if god had your ear then you would be more intelligent and perceptive than those heathens.  Yet I am a heathen full of knowledge and truth and blogged early on that 911 was an inside job by Israel and was one of the first voices screaming on the net that Israel did Fukushima.  As a heathen who prays to no god I can see clearly the false flags yet the believers, many of my immediate neighbors who go to church and Bible study, still can not entertain the idea that Israel did 911.  Something is blocking the truth into their minds.  I see this first hand nearly everyday.

So I postulated that they are under a spell and wrote :

 The World is Under a God Spell

http://phishna.comli.com/

Do you understand why I wrote it?  I wasn't trying to defame your god, I was simply observing the reality of mind controlled apostate Christians and wrote a theory as to why that is.  Many Christians say I hate god or Jesus but really they are upset that I don't believe in their fiction.  Some day I am sure that humanity will get its head out its ass and outlaw religion and religion memes as dangerous mind viruses, the problem is that no one is going to take the spell binding effects of religion seriously until the world is ruined by war, totalitarianism, and nuclear contanimation.

phishna

Quote from: "Christopher Marlowe"Jesus Christ is the only way to defeat evil,

Its been 2000 years since Jesus, the Jews have taken over, things have gotten much worse.  Where's Jesus?  The Jews are the evil destroying humanity and even life itself.  To say that "Jesus is the only way" is a belief and not based on observation.  There are more Christians now then ever, at the maximum state of Christianity totalitarianism is having a heyday, warfare is the worst its been in 2000 years.  I'm sure the Native Americans would not agree that Jesus is the way to defeat evil as they were destroyed by Christianity.

What you can not see that the problem might be your zealous belief, that maybe just maybe, the belief is the problem.  With belief the mind is put into a kind of somunlent state unable to perceive reality, in this case that the Jews have completely framed your reality and wage war with your approval even though it means your own destruction.  

Christianity is completely bound by Judaism:

That is the reason I call Christianity a Judaic death cult.  Christians are spellbound by the Bible, they are taking America and the world strait to hell:

http://phishna.comli.com/

"Just what is a spell and how does it work?

Web definition of spell: spell: a verbal formula believed to have magical force.

My definition of a spell: A spell is a thoughtform that holds a human mind in bondage, a spell is cast by thought, word, or action for the purpose of controlling another. Typically a spell is cast by saying the words out loud. That is why it is called a spell, it is s p e l l e d out, often articulated with will. A spell is a willful intention cast into the energy field.

This is what is being done in churches and temples all across America, the word is being read by the preacher to the imbecile flock, the spell is being cast when the words are read aloud and repeated by the congregation. They repeat the words in prayers (mantras, magic of repetition) programming their subconscious minds into a trance state of obedience to the Jews. Every week Christians sing hymns to god thanking him for not killing them eternally. It's pure psychosis. Christians are really thanking the Jews for allowing them to live. Christians are pathetic.

The entire culture is affected by this trance; it structures our reality, it controls our subconscious, it results in laws and political policies. American law is Jewish law. The Jews are evil warmongers, they want America ruled by Talmudic law, where the Jews have legal authority to kill and destroy everything."

Christopher Marlowe

Quote from: "phishna"
Quote from: "Christopher Marlowe"Jesus Christ is the only way to defeat evil,

Its been 2000 years since Jesus, the Jews have taken over, things have gotten much worse.  Where's Jesus?  The Jews are the evil destroying humanity and even life itself.  To say that "Jesus is the only way" is a belief and not based on observation.  There are more Christians now then ever, at the maximum state of Christianity totalitarianism is having a heyday, warfare is the worst its been in 2000 years.  I'm sure the Native Americans would not agree that Jesus is the way to defeat evil as they were destroyed by Christianity.

Quote2 Peter 3:3 -10
Knowing this first, that in the last days there shall come deceitful scoffers, walking after their own lusts, [4] Saying: Where is his promise or his coming? for since the time that the fathers slept, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. [5] For this they are wilfully ignorant of, that the heavens were before, and the earth out of water, and through water, consisting by the word of God.

[6] Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished. [7] But the heavens and the earth which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of the ungodly men. [8] But of this one thing be not ignorant, my beloved, that one day with the Lord is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. [9] The Lord delayeth not his promise, as some imagine, but dealeth patiently for your sake, not willing that any should perish, but that all should return to penance. [10] But the day of the Lord shall come as a thief, in which the heavens shall pass away with great violence, and the elements shall be melted with heat, and the earth and the works which are in it, shall be burnt up.

Quote from: "phishna"What you can not see that the problem might be your zealous belief, that maybe just maybe, the belief is the problem.  With belief the mind is put into a kind of somunlent state unable to perceive reality, in this case that the Jews have completely framed your reality and wage war with your approval even though it means your own destruction.

I was an atheist when I was young and foolish. I read all that crap. I used to believe ridiculous garbage, but then I found out that God was real.  I found that the Catholic faith was the most complete and consistent philosophy that mankind has ever known.  Through my faith, I am able to perceive reality more completely.  

People try to "believe" in all sorts of foolish things. Some people put and apple in a box and chant "domo rengay kyo" over and over, and they do this so that the "universe" will give them cars and money.  To my mind, this is an idle pursuit.  It is just focusing one's spirituality at achieving the whims of the flesh.

Any sort of religion that is focused only on this world, like Judaism, will ultimately promote that same vain ethos.

That is another difference between Christianity and Judaism: Christianity is focused on going to heaven to live with God. Judaism is about getting what you can in this world.  Christianity tells us how to get to heaven: by becoming holy. We become holy by conforming our lives to Christ; and we can do this by allowing God's Grace to work in us; we allow God to save us. That is the message of Christ on the Cross: we die to ourselves and then God gives us new life in Him. That is the very real promise of Eternal Life that is freely held out by God.  

Contrarily, Judaism is focused on making gains in this world. Modern Jews believe they are their own messiah. They are working to create their own Jewish paradise here on earth. They persist in this despite the objective evidence that shows they are creating quite the opposite for everyone else. Jews take over Palestine, which many call the "holy land", and Tel Aviv becomes known as the brothel capital of the world. That is the idea of a Jewish holy land? A land of brothels?

QuoteChristianity is completely bound by Judaism:

This is the lazy sort of thinking that passes for an argument by phishna.  Somnolent indeed.  

Hey look:

Nazi star of Remphan


ying yang star of Remphan


Wow! The Jews must run all the major religions!  I better read phishna's blog.  

I'm still waiting for Phishna to actually read something and give a critical response.  I posted a homily by St. John Chrysostom, a doctor of the Church.  He laid out who the Jews were and why they are in rebellion against God. phishna can't deal with this, so he ignores it. Phishna is under his own spell: he repeats his own mantras and doesn't pay attention to what other people say.
And, as their wealth increaseth, so inclose
    Infinite riches in a little room

LordLindsey

Guys, I am begging you to PLEASE set-aside your differences and let us get-back to fighting TOGETHER against a common-threat to US ALL, instead of continuing the INTENDED divide-and-conquer strategy of these demons walking-on-two-legs.  No one is going to change their minds because THIS ARGUMENT IS LITERALLY AN ARGUMENT OF PHILOSOPHY; HOWEVER, WHEN WE HAVE THE PROOF OF THE TRUTH ABOUT WHICH WE SPEAK, THAT IS NO LONGER A "PHILOSOPHICAL ARGUMENT", THAT NOW FALLS-UNDER THE IDEA OF PLEADING A CASE BASED-UPON EVIDENCE-AT-HAND.

I am begging you all to work-together because right now is the calm-before-the-storm before these psycho/sociopaths make everything go full-tilt-boogie, and we MUST take-advantage of this by doubling our efforts in out-reach.

LINDSEY
The Military KNOWS that Israel Did 911!!!!

http://theinfounderground.com/smf/index.php?topic=10233.0

Christopher Marlowe

Quote from: "LordLindsey"Guys, I am begging you to PLEASE set-aside your differences and let us get-back to fighting TOGETHER against a common-threat to US ALL, instead of continuing the INTENDED divide-and-conquer strategy of these demons walking-on-two-legs.  No one is going to change their minds because THIS ARGUMENT IS LITERALLY AN ARGUMENT OF PHILOSOPHY; HOWEVER, WHEN WE HAVE THE PROOF OF THE TRUTH ABOUT WHICH WE SPEAK, THAT IS NO LONGER A "PHILOSOPHICAL ARGUMENT", THAT NOW FALLS-UNDER THE IDEA OF PLEADING A CASE BASED-UPON EVIDENCE-AT-HAND.

I am begging you all to work-together because right now is the calm-before-the-storm before these psycho/sociopaths make everything go full-tilt-boogie, and we MUST take-advantage of this by doubling our efforts in out-reach.

LINDSEY
I am not attacking anyone. Christianity is under attack by Giuliani and phishna. They are making up lies and blaming the actions of the Jews on the Christian Faith.  I am defending the Christian Faith from these liars.

If phishna was on TIU defending Judaism, would you say that his post was "literally an argument of philosophy"? No, you would not.  

As you say, "we have proof of the truth about which we speak", so then we shouldn't waste time attacking Christianity, and we should focus our attention upon those implicated by the PROOF: this is a problem caused by Jews and the Jewish religion.

The banking problem is not a Muslim problem or a Buddhist problem or a Christian problem.  It is a Jewish problem.  
The media is not owned by the Arabs or the Christians.  It is owned by the Jews.  
The wars of the world are not being started by the Vatican. They are being started by the Jewish state: the shitty little country that calls itself "israel".  

Why would someone want to blame the Christians for the actions of the Jews? Why would some fat retard claim that the Hollywood is owned by the Arabs? Why would people read a book, written by a diamond merchant, that blames all of the world's problems on the Vatican?  

We have proof of the truth about which we speak!  Indeed.  Then why should we shift the focus away from the criminals?
And, as their wealth increaseth, so inclose
    Infinite riches in a little room

Michael K.

Dear phishna,

I was intrigued by your apparent insight when you wrote:

Quote"Just what is a spell and how does it work?

Web definition of spell: spell: a verbal formula believed to have magical force.

My definition of a spell: A spell is a thoughtform that holds a human mind in bondage, a spell is cast by thought, word, or action for the purpose of controlling another. Typically a spell is cast by saying the words out loud. That is why it is called a spell, it is s p e l l e d out, often articulated with will. A spell is a willful intention cast into the energy field.

This is what is being done in churches and temples all across America, the word is being read by the preacher to the imbecile flock, the spell is being cast when the words are read aloud and repeated by the congregation. They repeat the words in prayers (mantras, magic of repetition) programming their subconscious minds into a trance state of obedience to the Jews. Every week Christians sing hymns to god thanking him for not killing them eternally. It's pure psychosis. Christians are really thanking the Jews for allowing them to live. Christians are pathetic.

The entire culture is affected by this trance; it structures our reality, it controls our subconscious, it results in laws and political policies. American law is Jewish law. The Jews are evil warmongers, they want America ruled by Talmudic law, where the Jews have legal authority to kill and destroy everything."

I do believe that you are correct about how spells are formed in the subconscious, as through repetition aloud and so forth.  This is a key insight into understanding how the unwitting are subtly steered to the planned destiny of the programmers, the ones writing the music.

And it led me to want to discuss this thought: the problem as you say is, "the spell is being cast when the words are read aloud and repeated by the congregation. They repeat the words in prayers (mantras, magic of repetition) programming their subconscious minds into a trance state of obedience to the Jews."  This is evidently true in many cases, but not in all.  

The difference between the state of being "Christian TM" programmed to accept the Jewish banking and media machine, and the state where you are actually worshiping God by making statements which are theologically precise, almost like chemical formulas in precision, and songs in their beauty.  If you don't believe the latter exists you are flat out wrong.  You are judging without seeing for yourself.  You don't believe it is even possible for a pure, Jew Talmud-free, Christian church gathering to happen.  To me, this seems too cynical.

And this is a major line of departure of one from the other:  when new mega-churches spring up from denominations whose theology is a significant departure from tradition, from matchbook cover theology PHDs in polyester suits.  The phenomenon of churches that break away from the mother Church of pure steady and unchanging Christian tradition is the problem here.  The church-as-a-capitalist-venture approach is naturally the Jew approach to Christianity.  As, I believe, is the church-as-an-hour-and-a-half-of-loud-rock-music approach.

And the last dangerous approach is the most subtle; it the church-as-a-social-justice-collective-with-God-as-the-theme.  Although this doesn't sound too bad at first, it falls short of the true approach, the church-as-a-recapitulation-of-all-theology-and-the-spiritual-history-of-man-and-God's-connection.

Michael K.

http://whatdoyoubelieve.blog.fc2.com/bl ... 42.html#cm

QuoteBallad of the Goodly Fere

Ezra Pound

SIMON Zelotes speaketh it somewhile after the Crucifixion

Ha' we lost the goodliest fere o' all
For the priests and the gallows tree?
Aye lover he was of brawny men,
O' ships and the open sea.

When they came wi' a host to take Our Man
His smile was good to see,
"First let these go!" quo' our Goodly Fere,
"Or I'll see ye damned," says he.

Aye he sent us out through the crossed high spears
And the scorn of his laugh rang free,
"Why took ye not me when I walked about
Alone in the town?" says he.

Oh we drunk his "Hale" in the good red wine
When we last made company,
No capon priest was the Goodly Fere
But a man o' men was he.

I ha' seen him drive a hundred men
Wi' a bundle o' cords swung free,
That they took the high and holy house
For their pawn and treasury.

They'ss no' get him a' in a book I think
Though they write it cunningly;
No mouse of the scrolls was the Goodly Fere
But aye loved the open sea.

If they think they ha' snared our Goodly Fere
They are fools to the last degree.
"I'll go to the feast," quo' our Goodly Fere,
"Though I go to the gallows tree."

"Ye ha' seen me heal the lame and blind,
And wake the dead," says he,
"Ye shall see one thing to master all:
'Tis how a brave man dies on the tree."

A son of God was the Goodly Fere
That bade us his brothers be.
I ha' seen him cow a thousand men.
I have seen him upon the tree.

He cried no cry when they drave the nails
And the blood gushed hot and free,
The hounds of the crimson sky gave tongue
But never a cry cried he.

I ha' seen him cow a thousand men
On the hills o' Galilee,
They whined as he walked out calm between,
Wi' his eyes like the grey o' the sea,

Like the sea that brooks no voyaging
With the winds unleashed and free,
Like the sea he cowed at Genseret
Wi' twey words spoke' suddently.

A master of men was the Goodly Fere,
A mate of the wind and sea,
If they think they ha' slain our Goodly Fere
They are fools eternally.

I ha' seen him eat o' the honey-comb
Sin' they nailed him to the tree.

CrackSmokeRepublican

Godspell


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Creative team: Read about Stephen Schwartz the composer. | Read about John-Michael Tebelak who conceived and directed the show.   <$>

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Timothy_Fitzpatrick

Quote from: "phishna"Christianity is completely bound by Judaism:

Right, and that's why Christianity is dualistic and Judaism monistic?
Fitzpatrick Informer:

phishna

Quote from: "Timothy_Fitzpatrick"
Quote from: "phishna"Christianity is completely bound by Judaism:

Right, and that's why Christianity is dualistic and Judaism monistic?

Christianity isn't monotheistic?  Christians worship Jesus the son of the Jew father god Jehovah (which is one in the same and part of a trinity that one), some Christians even call themselves Jehovah's Witnesses.

The very core idea of Christianity is that there is this angry father god that is going to judge you and send you to hell unless you get saved by the son, who died on a cross for humanities sins.  The New Testament is called "good news" because there is way out of our "automatically going to hell"  predicament.

(Disclaimer: I don't believe in any of this dogma, it's all total bullshit, there is no angry god out to get you, there is no hell and no judgement and thus no need for salvation, and nobody can get you out of your karma, that is the consequences of your actions.)

Timothy_Fitzpatrick

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Quote from: "Timothy_Fitzpatrick"
Quote from: "phishna"Christianity is completely bound by Judaism:

Right, and that's why Christianity is dualistic and Judaism monistic?

Christianity isn't monotheistic?  Christians worship Jesus the son of the Jew father god Jehovah (which is one in the same and part of a trinity that one), some Christians even call themselves Jehovah's Witnesses.

The very core idea of Christianity is that there is this angry father god that is going to judge you and send you to hell unless you get saved by the son, who died on a cross for humanities sins.  The New Testament is called "good news" because there is way out of our "automatically going to hell"  predicament.

(Disclaimer: I don't believe in any of this dogma, it's all total bullshit, there is no angry god out to get you, there is no hell and no judgement and thus no need for salvation, and nobody can get you out of your karma, that is the consequences of your actions.)

Why did you change the subject from dualism vs. monism to monotheism vs. polytheism? Could it be because you don't want to admit that dualism and monism are NOT the same, thus neither are Christianity and Judaism?
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Timothy_Fitzpatrick

Quote from: "Destroyer911"Bill Cooper - It's not the Jews
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fHmWcRZ72A

I doubt that Cooper was being sincere when he said "it's not the Jews." Consider the following things he said that contradict that.

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QuoteI have found that at the very heart and core of all these secret societies lurks the Kabbalah.
—Bill Cooper

Now why is it that theosophy keeps popping up when we examine prominent non-Christian "anti-Judaics"?
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Anonymous

I used to sing Charles praises, but after this week long load train full of crap, I finally hung the headphones up when I heard he was having Mike on, a guy who just talks out of his arse all the time. Listening to him babble about world wide ancient catastrophes which you can not prove either way anyway yet he keeps claiming it is undeniable. I do believe the earth was different millions of years ago during the dinosaur period, but him going on about a water canopy, people used to enjoy an abundance of food because it just grew everywhere and the fruit was very large because the atmosphere was denser etc etc.

I do not know what his game plan is, but him publicizing his belief in all this crap detracts greatly his information about jewish issues.

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CrackSmokeRepublican

I'm really surprised that C.G. doesn't just way-lay into the financial and political corruption that abounds in D.C./Wallstreet/London/Jew'd markets globally.  I don't think he is of the caliber for that type of analysis or maybe it is not interesting to him (?).  Like always and in every land, the Jew-Talmudic Financial Scams and general social corruption will bring the House of J-Tribe down.   The "boot" on their collective "Asses" follows "Scams, murders, crimes, scandals, debauchery, deceits, legalisms, exceptions, etc."... The sheer amount of "Scam" going down right now is just nearly unbelievable-inconceivable... especially, when average "Goyim" people are going to prison for failure to pay simple, computer generated, bills.  C.G. seems directionless lately in his shows... a loss of faith can do that.  --CSR
After the Revolution of 1905, the Czar had prudently prepared for further outbreaks by transferring some $400 million in cash to the New York banks, Chase, National City, Guaranty Trust, J.P.Morgan Co., and Hanover Trust. In 1914, these same banks bought the controlling number of shares in the newly organized Federal Reserve Bank of New York, paying for the stock with the Czar\'s sequestered funds. In November 1917,  Red Guards drove a truck to the Imperial Bank and removed the Romanoff gold and jewels. The gold was later shipped directly to Kuhn, Loeb Co. in New York.-- Curse of Canaan

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Bluejelly wrote:

QuoteI used to sing Charles praises, but after this week long load train full of crap, I finally hung the headphones up when I heard he was having Mike on, a guy who just talks out of his arse all the time. Listening to him babble about world wide ancient catastrophes which you can not prove either way anyway yet he keeps claiming it is undeniable. I do believe the earth was different millions of years ago during the dinosaur period, but him going on about a water canopy, people used to enjoy an abundance of food because it just grew everywhere and the fruit was very large because the atmosphere was denser etc etc.

I do not know what his game plan is, but him publicizing his belief in all this crap detracts greatly his information about jewish issues.

I agree, last weeks shows on ancient catastrofism and numerical anamolies were severely below the average but I don't think this is a coincidence.Giuliani has stated in a recent show that he'd have to tone down and it's my guess he does it by talking about jew-unrelated topics.

CSR wrote:

QuoteC.G. seems directionless lately in his shows... a loss of faith can do that.

He lost his faith a while ago and the quality of his show didn't exactly go down imo, I think it went up.That aside, the shows really went directionless after Oracle put the pressure on him so I don't think faith has anything to do with it.

I just hope the ''real'' Charlie will be back soon.
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Shiksa Rage

It's hard to care much about ancient catastrophes when there are enough modern ones, of various kinds, to keep us pre-occupied.

skye_solo

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Quote from: "skye_solo"Hello phishna,
 There is no solar Christ. There is only one God, one Creator who made everything.

Prove that there is only one god, most cultures believed in many.  Prove that one entity created the Universe, Darwin showed us that creation is ongoing and by natural process.  Prove the existence that any god at anytime in history was supernatural and not fiction or a tribal leader or king.  The evidence that "christ" is the anthropomorphized solar deity is overwhelming, any truthful mind that studies this will conclude this in short order, and it doesn't mean that christ and jesus are the same thing, only that NT writers assigned christ characteristics to jesus as they defied him.

At the end of Christian prayers the mantra "amen, amen" is used.  Ever wonder why?  Is Amen the shortened version of Amenhotep?  Wasn't Amenhotep the first ruler to accept monotheism?  Were not the Egyptians heavy into the solar deity? What does "jesus the christ" mean?

Solarfied Jesus, Jesus is the "sun" of god.

I'm not always the best with words, and I realize this reply is a long time in coming. I believe that Jesus is the messiah. The sun was created by God. It doesn't have any relation to Jesus, not anymore than how the rest of we humans and living creatures in this galaxy interact with it. There's nothing in the Bible that shows Jesus has anything relating to him with the sun, and astrology is forbidden by God so that is a total dead end.

To say Amen at the end of prayer, one way of it being translated into English is "May it be so", as in everything I have just prayed, I'm saying "Let/May it be so".

As for proof of God, I believe it is through our ability to recognize the signs God has shown us in the creation, and having faith. Puting that faith to good use and recognizing what we were created for. To know and worship our Creator.
This says it well I think.
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scorpio

Welcome welcome welcome to Timothy Fitzpatrick's Christian Theology Discussion Board, formally known as TIU.
Here, we will discuss the nuances of Christian Theology, and proclaim any non believers to be Nihilist saboteurs, shills, or agents.  (*)>

 :geek:  :lol: :lol:

Rockclimber

Quote from: "scorpio"Welcome welcome welcome to Timothy Fitzpatrick's Christian Theology Discussion Board, formally known as TIU.
Here, we will discuss the nuances of Christian Theology, and proclaim any non believers to be Nihilist saboteurs, shills, or agents.  (*)>

 :geek:  :lol: :lol:

And to convince them of anything to the contrary is an exercise in futility. Truly.  <WTF>

Timothy_Fitzpatrick

Quote from: "Rockclimber"
Quote from: "scorpio"Welcome welcome welcome to Timothy Fitzpatrick's Christian Theology Discussion Board, formally known as TIU.
Here, we will discuss the nuances of Christian Theology, and proclaim any non believers to be Nihilist saboteurs, shills, or agents.  (*)>

 :geek:  :lol: :lol:

And to convince them of anything to the contrary is an exercise in futility. Truly.  <WTF>

How bout trying to convince us that Giuliani's program is value free.
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JUDAISM IS NIHILISTIC
By E. Michael Jones
 
Judaism, according to the theology proposed by The Believer, is essentially nihilistic. The Jews "want nothing but nothingness, nothing without end." This theme gets developed throughout the film. When Danny's girlfriend asks him to explain the difference between God's apophatic character and "Him not existing at all," Danny replies, "there is no difference." When she tells him that "Christianity's silly but at least there's something to believe in," Danny responds by saying, "Judaism is nothing. Nothing but nothingness." Then as if reconsidering the issue, Danny says, "Judaism isn't really about belief. It's about doing things."
 
"And belief follows?" his girlfriend asks.
 
"Nothing follows."
 
Eventually his girlfriend catches on. After setting out a seder meal for Danny, she says he should sit down and take part in the meal because God "commands it whether he exists or not."
 
Like Jacob, Danny's girlfriend concludes that there is no point in fighting God. "We can fight Him and be crushed. Or we can submit."
 
"And be crushed," says Danny.
 
After their rejection of Christ, the Jews confected a religion which is based on the absence of Logos, which is to say, the absence of Being, which is to say, nothing. If the Eucharist in the tabernacle in the Catholic Church can be termed "the real presence," then what the Jew who rejected Christ worships in his synagogue can be termed "the real absence," which is another word for nothing. The Jew worships nothing; or better, the Jew worships nothingness. The Jew, as Jacques Derrida has pointed out malgre lui but amply in his deconstructive literary criticism, is obsessed with the absence of presence or the presence of absence.
 
Nihilism leads inevitably to violence because violence, which is a manifestation of the arbitrary and autonomous will, is the only way that the acting person can assert his existence in a world without Logos. Violence is an extreme form of self-assertion, and only extreme forms of assertion are powerful enough to prevent the slide into non-being to which the Jewish nihilist is exposed by the very fact that he is Jewish. That is so because Jews worship the absence of being and as a result "want nothing but nothingness, nothing without end." Judaism is about doing things because nihilism is ultimately about doing things, because action is the only thing that prevents dissolution into non-being in a universe based on nothingness.
 
Nihilism, in other words, leads inevitably to violence. So to get back to the plot of The Believer, when Danny goes to a Jewish bookstore, he meets one of his former Yeshiva classmates, who invites him to the synagogue for services--the same synagogue, it turns out, where Danny planted a bomb, which failed to go off. This time he plants another bomb, timed to go off during Sabbath services, at which he decides to read the Torah.  When Danny goes to the synagogue, he meets one of his former Yeshiva classmates, who calls him a "Jewish Nazi." By showing up to davin at the synagogue where he has planted a bomb, Danny the Nazi finally succeeds in killing Danny the Jew. But since he dies reciting the Torah, it is equally accurate to say the Danny the Jew ends up killing Danny the Nazi.
 
At the end of the film, after Danny blows up the synagogue in which he is praying, we next see him running up a flight of stairs at the Yeshiva. At the top of one flight, Danny sees his former teacher, who now agrees with Danny, claiming now that "Isaac died on Mt. Moriah and was reborn in the world to come," but Danny runs past him up yet another flight of steps, causing the teacher to ask, "Danny, where are you going. Don't you know? There's nothing up there." Jewish nihilism, in other words, leads to Jewish violence. To be continued.
 
E. Michael Jones is the editor of Culture Wars.
 
This excerpt from the e-book Jewish Nazis ran in the April 2011 issue of Culture Wars.  The continuation appears in the May 2011 issue, which may be purchased for $4.

Source: http://www.culturewars.com/2011/JewishNazis.htm
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mgt23

QuoteThe Jew worships nothing; or better, the Jew worships nothingness

......correction the jew worships the dark goddess (hecate, who who resides in the void/event horizon-->point of singularity), but because they are satanic nihilists they believe in nothing not even her. So she abandons them (in favor of Lucifer i believe) and they are left in the dark because seeing in the dark isn't done with ones eyes. As a result the Talmud forms the whole Lillith bullshit story and demonizes the dark goddess.
She as CSR pointed out was a Sumerian night time wind spirit of inspiration called Lillitu
(Think of what i said in zcf/prothink thread about Edward the VII's horse winning in his last hours "Witch of the Air").
.....according to my sources the sex cult was about a goddess having multiple male partners(at least two) based on Lucifer(the deceiver) and Belial(the wicked one).  Satan(The enemy/Prosecutor) I found out was dethroned in the 1500's.....quite why this was i was never told, but i think it was to do with the fact he wanted to take over her power.....so she left him. At this point the jew who are secret goddess worshipers ostensibly in the form of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asherah have a shock when they "encounter" the dark goddess of her triple aspect. Here is where witch and atheistic jew separate into different end games. Witch wants annihilation and jew satanically craves enslavement of all spirit (Something a witch would never allow and would laugh at).

Personally i think they are both bonkers.