Sandy Hook Connecticut state police hold a news conference in Newtown

[Christopher Marlowe]

Ooops! I just read on a site that Anne Marie Murphy was an aide, so that credential listed would not have been hers:

Anne Marie Murphy worked as an aide at Sandy Hook, where she taught art and special education. It appears that she died while attempting to shield her students from the gunfire, as her body was found covering a group of children. "She was a sweetheart, and she loved Sandy Hook," a family friend told the Wall Street Journal. Murphy is survived by her husband and four children.

Read more: http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/12/16/rem ... z2G9L49lpj

I also saw another person, Rachel D'Avino, 29. She was supposed to be a behavioral therapist, working at the school. She is not listed as having a license.

[sullivan]

Nice to see this apparent charade is being discussed openly and thoroughly here. Over at ATS, any questioning of the facts of the event appears to be consistently and meticulously shut down.

[sullivan]

I also saw another person, Rachel D'Avino, 29. She was supposed to be a behavioral therapist, working at the school. She is not listed as having a license.

Where have you checked their licenses? Can you post links here and can we get screen grabs just in case the sources are altered later?

[Amanda]

Sullivan-

I think CM  was looking up licenses here:  https://www.elicense.ct.gov/Lookup/LicenseLookup.aspx

[FrankDialogue]

There is also a video that has been posted called: "I am Adam Lanza's Doctor" says Rima E. Laibow, MD"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AHlQlWhHg2c#

Problem is, this doctor is based in Panama, appears to be from a certain tribe; Maybe she commuted up to Newtown CT ever 6 weeks or so....Or, perhaps, Nancy Lanza, 'survivalist' the mother, heard about her after reading a book about holistic psychiatry advertised on the 'Alex Jones Show'.

She also supposedly works with something called the 'Natural Solutions Foundation'
http://www.HealthFreedomUSA.org

Fellow posters can follow up on this 'info'.

I have to take a short break from rabbit hunting, for a few days.



Rina Laibow

[FrankDialogue]

Sullivan-

I think CM  was looking up licenses here:  https://www.elicense.ct.gov/Lookup/LicenseLookup.aspx

I believe Mr. Marlowe selected the wrong title from the pull down menu: He should have selected 'Liquor License Bowling Alley'... :lol:   :lolno:   :lol:

BTW, Dr. Laibow DID have a medical license in Connecticut, but it expired in 2005...I called the Department of Public Health in CT and they were very helpful...It is almost impossible to look up this info on their website.

[Amanda]

Frank-

I only listened to a few minutes of the video, but I don't think Rima Liabow meant that she actually treated Adam Lanza. I think she was just saying that there are lots of "Adam Lanzas" out there (people w/various psychiatric labels) and she's worked w/them.  I think using "I am Adam Lanza's Doctor" as the title of her video was just her version of the article "I am Adam Lanza's mother," which was written by a parent of an autistic/asperger's child that was circulating after the supposed shooting.   Anyway, in the few minutes I listened to her, I liked what she had to say about getting these kids off the cocktail of psychiatric meds they get put on and how you have to get them off of those to really know what you are working with.

Also, fyi, this Dr. RIma Laibow is a bit of a strange character. Some think she's some sort of controlled opposition. I think she first showed up on the scene speaking out about Codex Alimentarious and how they were trying to kill us. I've heard people in the health freedom "movement" suggest that she's somehow controlled and misdirects people.  Plus, if you look into her background there's some strange stuff. I'm pretty sure she's married to that Stubblebine character, who I think was in the military, CIA, or something having to do w/psychological operations.  

Okay, just found some info on her here:  viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3387

[Amanda]

Okay, so in addition to the weird stuff w/the licensure status of some of the characters in the Sandy Hook Show (with some of them having no license or relatively new licenses, like the one issued post-mortem), Charlie Guiliani mentioned in one of his shows last week that it looks like some of the key people in this event were relatively new to the CT area. He didn't mention names (I'm assuming he'll get into this info the next time he does on show on the CT shooting), but I was able to find this info on Robbie Parker in the comments section at John Friend's blog:

Parker allegedly moved his family from Utah to Connecticut eight months ago after accepting a job as a physician's assistant in the newborn unit at Danbury Hospital.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/16/us/connec ... ie-parker/

Parker allegedly has only a short history in CT. He allegedly moved from Utah where the cost of living is relatively low - to Newtown, CT where the cost of living is about the highest in the nation to be a "Physicians Assistant" at Danbury Hospital.

Here is an example of an ad for a Physicians Assistant. Note the experience requirement. How much do you think a Physician Assistant makes? Enough to justify a move to the most expensive area in the US?
http://www.nurse.com/jobs/1059147-gi-ph ... danbury-ct

The average salary for a Medical Assistant in Danbury, CT is $45,000.00.

http://www.simplyhired.com/a/salary/sea ... anbury,+CT

I'm still not sure what to make of all of this.  I  mean, is everyone an actor? or just some of the key characters that the media is focusing on? I don't watch talmudvision, so I have no idea if the ZSM was able to speak w/all of the alleged victims families or just some of them.  If it was just some of them, then maybe those were the actors but the others were real and there really were victims?? And this whole idea of them using actors/scripts is sort of new to me. I mean, I knew the guy in the video below from 911 was an obvious actor/plant, but have there been others?? I don't recall hearing anything like this about Columbine or other shootings, but maybe I wasn't paying attention.

 9/11 Eyewitness - FOX Freelancer Harley Guy Mark Walsh
[youtube:2skz1567]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5y8PtfKA14[/youtube]2skz1567]

[Krag]

The area newspaper (Danbury) today is saying that popular sentiment is calling for the razing of the school because it is sacred ground due to the killing:  http://www.newstimes.com/local/article/ ... 145303.php

NEWTOWN -- "The days when school bells summoned students to Sandy Hook Elementary School may be over.
In the wake of the Dec. 14 massacre that left 20 students and six teachers dead, dozens of residents indicated in interviews with the News-Times that the school should remain closed for good.
The memories, residents say, are too ghastly for classes ever to be held at Sandy Hook again.
"It should be demolished," said John Vouros, a member of the Newtown Board of Education.
Though the board has not yet officially discussed what might become of Sandy Hook Elementary, Vouros said a new school should be built elsewhere.
Following such tragedies, spaces rarely remain the same."

[FrankDialogue]

Frank-

I only listened to a few minutes of the video, but I don't think Rima Liabow meant that she actually treated Adam Lanza. I think she was just saying that there are lots of "Adam Lanzas" out there (people w/various psychiatric labels) and she's worked w/them.  I think using "I am Adam Lanza's Doctor" as the title of her video was just her version of the article "I am Adam Lanza's mother," which was written by a parent of an autistic/asperger's child that was circulating after the supposed shooting.   Anyway, in the few minutes I listened to her, I liked what she had to say about getting these kids off the cocktail of psychiatric meds they get put on and how you have to get them off of those to really know what you are working with.

. Also, fyi, this Dr. RIma Laibow is a bit of a strange character. Some think she's some sort of controlled opposition. I think she first showed up on the scene speaking out about Codex Alimentarious and how they were trying to kill us. I've heard people in the health freedom "movement" suggest that she's somehow controlled and misdirects people.  Plus, if you look into her background there's some strange stuff. I'm pretty sure she's married to that Stubblebine character, who I think was in the military, CIA, or something having to do w/psychological operations.  

Okay, just found some info on her here:  viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3387

Amanda, thanks for the information...This illustrates how twisted things can become in the reporting process.

Now, you know the old saying: 'Opinions are like assholes; everybody's got one'...But, opinions, OK: In this age of mass information, Internet, you get to new levels, mostly levels of lying, with dis-info artists, 'controlled opposition' and the like.

It's very hard to ferret out the truth in a case like this.

[Amanda]

Okay, for whatever reason, the idea of razing the school to the ground is sort of reminding me of when they shipped the steel from 911 to China asap....

Also, I think Frank already posted an article on this, but this video is all about how they are going to recreate Sandy Hook Elementary School at another school in the area:

Sandy Hook Students Get New School, Same Rooms

[youtube:12q40sod]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31vrubbiPME[/youtube]12q40sod]

video description:

Published on Dec 22, 2012

From the AP, December 19th, 2012

This is proof that the Sandy Hoax Massacre was planned months if not years in advance. Another school in the area was vacated in 2011, but has now been magically transformed in just a few days to completely mirror Sandy Hook Elementary. Give me a fucking break.

BTW, it was announced today that Sandy Hook would be maintained as a crime scene for "several months" so that the fake investigation {cover up} can continue, then the school will be torn down and rebuilt on the same site. Seriously, does anybody believe these decision are made in a matter of just a few days?

So, I don't think I quite get this. They are saying that this has been such a traumatic experience for the kids that there's no way they could possibly go back to Sandy Hook. So, instead, they're going to have them go to this other school that they are going to try to make look as much like Sandy Hook as possible??? Are they kidding??

Plus, it's kind of suspicious that they just happened to have this other school ready to go. But I'm sure that's just one of those silly coincidences!!

[FrankDialogue]

The area newspaper (Danbury) today is saying that popular sentiment is calling for the razing of the school because it is sacred ground due to the killing:  http://www.newstimes.com/local/article/ ... 145303.php

NEWTOWN -- "The days when school bells summoned students to Sandy Hook Elementary School may be over.
In the wake of the Dec. 14 massacre that left 20 students and six teachers dead, dozens of residents indicated in interviews with the News-Times that the school should remain closed for good.
The memories, residents say, are too ghastly for classes ever to be held at Sandy Hook again.
"It should be demolished," said John Vouros, a member of the Newtown Board of Education.
Though the board has not yet officially discussed what might become of Sandy Hook Elementary, Vouros said a new school should be built elsewhere.
Following such tragedies, spaces rarely remain the same."

Sounds like more BS, in a New Age fashion, what with this concept of 'sacred space' and all...That might just be something you threw in, but it fits.

More like, tear it down, destroy the evidence.

Amanda wrote:

So, I don't think I quite get this. They are saying that this has been such a traumatic experience for the kids that there's no way they could possibly go back to Sandy Hook. So, instead, they're going to have them go to this other school that they are going to try to make look as much like Sandy Hook as possible??? Are they kidding??

Plus, it's kind of suspicious that they just happened to have this other school ready to go. But I'm sure that's just one of those silly coincidences!!

 :roll:

[Christopher Marlowe]

the site I looked up the teacher's licenses was here: http://sdeportal.ct.gov/CECSFOI/FOILookup.aspx

I have captured all the images, but when I post them on TIU they are oversized and the relevant information is not within the url. When I shrink them down, the words are out of focus.

[Krag]

"Parker allegedly moved his family from Utah to Connecticut eight months ago after accepting a job as a physician's assistant in the newborn unit at Danbury Hospital.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/16/us/connec ... ie-parker/

"Parker allegedly has only a short history in CT. He allegedly moved from Utah where the cost of living is relatively low - to Newtown, CT where the cost of living is about the highest in the nation to be a "Physicians Assistant" at Danbury Hospital.

"Here is an example of an ad for a Physicians Assistant. Note the experience requirement. How much do you think a Physician Assistant makes? Enough to justify a move to the most expensive area in the US?
http://www.nurse.com/jobs/1059147-gi-ph ... danbury-ct

"The average salary for a Medical Assistant in Danbury, CT is $45,000.00."

OK, he's a Utah Mormon, comes to the wealthy Constitution State for opportunity.  He looked emotionally unstable in the video, it is explainable but not that coherant.  Maybe the job situation is not that good in Utah.  But now with the victim payouts he could be a millionaire so as the reality is dawning on the victims (alleged) if they know what is good for them and do not dig for the truth, they could be richer than their parents ever were.  

The thing to understand about Connecticut is that there are a lot of crazy rich and comfortable people here, I lived here most of my life, grew up in a town where average household income is a quarter of a million a year!  Then you have a lot of people who have not been so fortunate, or become part of the underclass who break the law.  Like John Chetta, cited in another blog as nailed for organized crime delivering kilos of cocaine to Norwalk Community College.  I had him as a customer, when I was doing tree work.  He hired me to remove truck loads of junk wood on his property and paid well in cash....

I had another customer nailed for insider trading, which is white collar crime, those who do not get caught are much greater percentage wise than those who do.

In New Canaan, primary principals average 150K a year:  http://newcanaan.patch.com/articles/top ... new-canaan

Newtown is no great shakes in terms of Connecticut affluence, it is a suburb of Danbury which is basically a slum city of Fairfield County.  Newtown hosted Fairfield Hills which was a mental hospital and a place for drug addicts and other people needing rehab..

[FrankDialogue]

"Parker allegedly moved his family from Utah to Connecticut eight months ago after accepting a job as a physician's assistant in the newborn unit at Danbury Hospital.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/16/us/connec ... ie-parker/

"Parker allegedly has only a short history in CT. He allegedly moved from Utah where the cost of living is relatively low - to Newtown, CT where the cost of living is about the highest in the nation to be a "Physicians Assistant" at Danbury Hospital.

"Here is an example of an ad for a Physicians Assistant. Note the experience requirement. How much do you think a Physician Assistant makes? Enough to justify a move to the most expensive area in the US?
http://www.nurse.com/jobs/1059147-gi-ph ... danbury-ct

"The average salary for a Medical Assistant in Danbury, CT is $45,000.00."

OK, he's a Utah Mormon, comes to the wealthy Constitution State for opportunity.  He looked emotionally unstable in the video, it is explainable but not that coherant.  Maybe the job situation is not that good in Utah.  But now with the victim payouts he could be a millionaire so as the reality is dawning on the victims (alleged) if they know what is good for them and do not dig for the truth, they could be richer than their parents ever were.  

The thing to understand about Connecticut is that there are a lot of crazy rich and comfortable people here, I lived here most of my life, grew up in a town where average household income is a quarter of a million a year!  Then you have a lot of people who have not been so fortunate, or become part of the underclass who break the law.  Like John Chetta, cited in another blog as nailed for organized crime delivering kilos of cocaine to Norwalk Community College.  I had him as a customer, when I was doing tree work.  He hired me to remove truck loads of junk wood on his property and paid well in cash....

I had another customer nailed for insider trading, which is white collar crime, those who do not get caught are much greater percentage wise than those who do.

In New Canaan, primary principals average 150K a year:  http://newcanaan.patch.com/articles/top ... new-canaan

Newtown is no great shakes in terms of Connecticut affluence, it is a suburb of Danbury which is basically a slum city of Fairfield County.  Newtown hosted Fairfield Hills which was a mental hospital and a place for drug addicts and other people needing rehab..

Thanks, Krag, for the good points about Parker, and the very valuable rundown of your experience in Connecticut...It is always important to get some real background about a certain place because this fills out the picture and provides 'context'.

In the 'google' age, this matters a lot, because most people just do a search and regurgitate the results, without ever using their real life experiences and/or common sense to help see a bigger picture....Very good point about income differences.

I've spent some time there but mostly just passing through on my way to Massachusetts, Vermont and Maine, where I've spent more time...I also know the Hudson River valley a bit, having lived outside of Woodstock NY...Connecticut is kind of a 'link state', transitioning from NYC vibe to the New England atmosphere of the other states I mentioned.  

[Amanda]

Though I don't necessarily agree everything John Friend has been saying about Sandy Hook (he thinks the whole thing was fake and I'm not necessarily there yet, but who knows?) his info definitely interesting and worth a read.

http://johnfriendsblog.blogspot.com/201 ... -hoax.html

I thought this was especially interesting--definitely gives you the sense that things aren't always as they appear, especially when it talks about "hollywood technologies to simulate reality"

It's important to keep in mind what Professor George J. Stein wrote in his 1995 essay "Information Warfare":

Information warfare, in its largest sense, is simply the use of information to achieve our national objectives. Like diplomacy, economic competition, or the use of military force, information in itself is a key aspect of national power and, more importantly, is becoming an increasingly vital national resource that supports diplomacy, economic competition, and the effective employment of military forces. Information warfare in this sense can be seen as societal-level or nation-to-nation conflict waged, in part, through the worldwide internetted and interconnected means of information and communication. [...]

Information warfare, in its essence, is about ideas and epistemology- big words meaning that information warfare is about the way humans think and, more important, the way humans make decisions. And although information warfare would be waged largely, but not entirely, through the communication nets of a society or its military, it is fundamentally not about satellites, wires, and computers. It is about influencing human beings and the decisions they make. [...]

A major new factor in information war is the worldwide infosphere of television and broadcast news. Information warfare at the strategic level is the "battle off the battlefield" to shape the political context of the conflict. It will define the new "battlespace." We face an "integrated battlefield," not in the usual sense of having a global positioning system (GPS) receiver in every tank or cockpit but in the Clausewitzian sense that war is being integrated into the political almost simultaneously with the battle. Many people suspect that the national command authorities (NCA) are in danger of becoming increasingly "reactive" to a "fictive" universe created by CNN, its various international competitors, or even a terrorist with a video camera. This media-created universe we live in is fictive rather than "fictional" because although what we see on CNN is "true," it is just not the whole, relevant, or contextual truth. Nevertheless, this fictive universe becomes the politically relevant universe in which the government or the armed forces are supposed to "do something." [...]

Fictive or fictional operational environments, then, whether mass-targeted or niche-targeted, can be generated, transmitted, distributed, or broadcast by governments or all sorts of players through increasingly diversified networks. [...]

Let us take just one example of how current technologies could be used for strategic-level information warfare. If, say, the capabilities of already well-known Hollywood technologies to simulate reality were added to our arsenal, a genuinely revolutionary new form of warfare would become possible. Today, the techniques of combining live actors with computer-generated video graphics can easily create a "virtual" news conference, summit meeting, or perhaps even a battle that would exist in "effect" though not in physical fact. Stored video images can be recombined or "morphed" endlessly to produce any effect chosen. This moves well beyond traditional military deception, and now, perhaps, "pictures" will be worth a thousand tanks. [...]

[FrankDialogue]

Amanda Posts & George Stein says:

Fictive or fictional operational environments, then, whether mass-targeted or niche-targeted, can be generated, transmitted, distributed, or broadcast by governments or all sorts of players through increasingly diversified networks. [...]

Let us take just one example of how current technologies could be used for strategic-level information warfare. If, say, the capabilities of already well-known Hollywood technologies to simulate reality were added to our arsenal, a genuinely revolutionary new form of warfare would become possible. Today, the techniques of combining live actors with computer-generated video graphics can easily create a "virtual" news conference, summit meeting, or perhaps even a battle that would exist in "effect" though not in physical fact. Stored video images can be recombined or "morphed" endlessly to produce any effect chosen. This moves well beyond traditional military deception, and now, perhaps, "pictures" will be worth a thousand tanks. [...]

Yes, quite true...We see 'the Protocols and '1984' being brought into the high tech age.

When I go down to my local bar, I observe & talk with the peeps...The corner bar has four flat screen TVs, mostly tuned to sports, but, depending on the bartender and the customers, they also put on MSM 'reality shows' and other garbage...I would say that about 5-10 % understand that what you see on TV is not reality, but carefully designed 'info-programming' geared to American 'WalMart shoppers' who don't have the ability to seperate the real from fiction...The 90% are mostly oblivious to anything that doesn't concern their immediate every day life, i.e. job or lack of one, the wife, kids and inlaws, bills that must be paid or things that must be bought, playing the lottery etc...With a populace like this, the government & 'powers that be' can get away with murder and robbery on a grand scale.

Curiously, there has been little chatter about the Sandy Hook event: the one fellow I did discuss it with was sceptical about the whole thing in his own way...He was a Vietnam vet, and former fire fighter.



'Immobilize the masses'

"...from the mouths of spitting cobras you were expecting 'designer sushi' ?"

[Krag]

The problem with conspiracy theories without real evidence is you lose 90% or more of your audience.

What I like about Professor Tracy's report is that it is 100% fact based, not conjecture and he is a real prof. at a real college.

Here are some comments on Tracy's report:

"Your article is an excellant summary of all the pieces from this mystery. I am speaking as someone who has shot various weapons in my lifetime and I completely doubted from the beginning that this young man could have fired so many kill shots in such a very short period of time. The fact that he had three kill zones, had a semi-automatic weapon capable of firing one shot at a time, effectively fired at moving targets where he had to point downwards, and where there weren't ANY injured leans more towards a professional shooter(s) than a 20 year old civilian who was rumored to be mentally akward. There is really no way possible that Mr Lanza alone could have been so effective.I believe that all mass shootings have had at least a percentage of injured and certainly not a kill percentage of 100%. I was also very shocked to see the lack of emotion from parent's who were interviewed on MSM news (CNN). The parents first of all didn't see the body of their murdered daughter, and second of all had a closed casket, and third of all they did not cry once but were smiling and talking as if their child succomed to something entirely different than assasination. It seems that no one has been interviewed that actually saw Mr Lanza as the shooter. The Vice Principal of Sandy Hook hid while the shootings were going on and was interviewed on 60 minutes where she claimed to have seen the feet of the gunman but didn't shed one tear for the children or colleagues killed or showed any signs of PTSD related to the severity of this slaughter. I am further confused by the lack of crime scene photography which didn't necessarily have to be blood, but at least some evidence. Why were the bodies removed late at night? Why wasn't there coverage of a bio-hazard cleaning crew? Why does it seem that every first responder or community member interviewed relates to third party information rather than first hand information? Why did the police investigator, Lt Vance, issue a gag-order and threaten legal action specifically to those outside the official narrative? Lastly, why did Nancy Lanza have a variety of tactical weapons especially since she is being portrayed as a socialite, and why did she make them accessible to a special needs adult? Why aren't there updated photos of the alleged gunman and his slain mother?"

 Charlie Primero   
December 24, 2012 at 11:57 pm   

I appreciate your interesting work on this case but have one minor correction.

You wrote:
"[..the Bushmaster .223 Connecticut police finally claimed was used in the shooting is designed for long range field use and utilizes high velocity bullets averaging 3,000 feet-per-second, the energy of which even at considerable distance would penetrate several bodies before finally coming to rest in tissue.]

The 5.56mm/.226″ round is specifically designed to tumble and fragment upon impact. This behavior amplifies wounding because kinetic energy is deposited into the body rather than being wasted by exiting the body. Bullet fragmentation creates multiple small wound channels. This shreds tissue instead of merely puncturing it like an ice pick.

To see examples, run a Google image search on the terms: 5.56 fragmentation x-ray

I realize this is a minor technical point, but it may prove useful in your calculations.

Please keep up your good work. The Mainstream Media is controlled. We depend on you to ask the hard questions they will not.

 Yule T. Gibbons   
December 24, 2012 at 9:41 pm   

This is a very well written article and you like myself have taken the time to look beyond the when the Main Stream Media funneled people to that evening. When the funerals would begin, when school would reopen, but not the who what where why and how. Trying to explain the points you and others have made causes people to say you are always looking for a boogie man or conspiracy. Yet these same people would ask for a refund if this thing was a movie they paid for because they would say it didn't make sense. People don't want to take the media facts and do a fact check on them. Like how the story on weapons can keep changing? Or listen to the recorded police scanner that clearly details someone being chased, as soon as the first responders arrive. The little boy who says he saw a second man hancuffed is standing in front of a man working on a stone wall. He has a vest that says LRM and he appears to be Lee Manna the brother of Rob Manna Chief Engineer of Newtown Hook & Ladder.At 1:30 when all this drama is going he's working on a wall. http://www.lrmscapes.com/communities.html There are too many people who are talking in cameras but not exhibiting the real grief that one would expect with a disaster like this. My wife stopped her car and shed tears when she heard the news. I learned this lesson years ago at age 6 and 11 when President Kennedy and Dr. King and Bobby Kennedy were assassinated, as well as 911. Always follow closely the first reporters and hold on to that info because then you can match the stories and see where they try and make the evidence fit the initial reports. It's obvious independent journalist and reporters are more welcome to go report in Syria, Lybia and Afghanistan but not in America.
http://memoryholeblog.com/2012/12/24/th ... /#comments

My guess is very few people here in Connecticut are interested in the other side, what's in it for them?  So we will have to leave it to sharp analysts on these sites to keep digging and hope that an LEO insider, government worker or others close to this case come forward.....

[FrankDialogue]

All of the questions that were asked by these people are the same questions that we have been asking here: Where is the first hand evidence, the photos/videos, the eye witness accounts?...No 'conspiracy theories' in asking for evidence...In fact, definition of conspiracy is two or more people working together to commit a crime, which seems to be exactly what we are seeing by the 'authorities' here.

As far as ballistics, I am far from an expert, but I know what 'dum-dum' or hollow point bullets are, which said authorities are claiming were used at the school.

Krag says:

My guess is very few people here in Connecticut are interested in the other side, what's in it for them? So we will have to leave it to sharp analysts on these sites to keep digging and hope that an LEO insider, government worker or others close to this case come forward.....

Yes.

[Amanda]

Okay, I'm sure this is just one of those" coincidences," but it's kind of interesting that the alleged shooter in the Port Arthur Massacre, which resulted in the disarming of the population,  was from New Town, Australia, and the alleged shooter in CT was from Newtown.
 
Anyway, it looks like Amy Goodman is drawing the comparison and pushing for gun control (no surprise there, just another j-triber pushing the tribal agenda)
http://www.democracynow.org/blog/2012/1 ... o_new_laws

And here's another member of the tribe pushing the agenda:
http://www.democracynow.org/2012/12/26/ ... interrupts


Also, here's an interesting article that compares some of the recent mass shootings, including the one in CT and Port Arthur,  and raises some interesting points/questions, though I don't necessarily agree w/him labeling Adam Lanza as "mentally impaired." (We've been told that Lanza had a high IQ and was diagnosed w/Aspergers. I've worked w/kids and adolescents w/Aspergers and, although they technically carried a psychiatric diagnosis, I never thought of them as "mentally ill" or "emotionally disturbed." They just tended to be shy and introverted and needed support w/social skills. Plus, they also tended to have problems w/coordination and clumsiness and weren't exactly the first kids picked in gym class):

'Lone Gunman': Suspicious Similarities, Norwegian, Australian, American Shooters
http://www.strike-the-root.com/lone-gun ... n-shooters

Column by Douglas Herman.
Exclusive to STR

"We live in a dirty and dangerous world. There are some things the general public does not need to know, and shouldn't. I believe democracy flourishes when the government can take legitimate steps to keep its secrets and when the press can decide whether to print what it knows." ~ Katherine Graham, Publisher of the Washington Post, in a speech to CIA recruits, 1988

I rarely watch the most popular TV shows on American television, the CSI series, because I have a low tolerance for triviality. Behind every great crime, wrote Balzac, is a great fortune. The CSI series focuses mainly on fictional, smalltime crimes while the greatest crimes are rarely investigated. Crimes that affect millions, in reality, are swept under the rug. Nothing to see here; move along. Yet an empire backed into a corner will employ any atrocity, no matter how monstrous. No crime is too great: mass murder, mayhem, school shootings. An empire backed into a corner, controlled by sociopaths and psychopaths, uses any atrocity, no matter how monstrous, if convinced of immunity. All that is happening in every NATO country today is understood by studying Operation Gladio. Terrorize a frightened population until the people cry out for "protection," for government intervention. The playbook is the same; only the players have changed.

The mass shooting in Newtown, Connecticut mirrors exactly the same mass shooting 16 years ago by a man from Newtown, Australia. Both Newtown shooters were, according to news reports, "mentally impaired." Surprised? People who knew both men beforehand reported them to be non-violent. And yet their command of weaponry, hundreds of fatal shots fired, mirrored a team of special forces soldiers, rather than ONE mentally impaired person. "Whoever was on the trigger in Tasmania managed a kill rate well above that required of a fully trained soldier, an impossible task for a man with Martin Bryant's mid-sixties IQ and his total lack of military training," wrote investigator Joe Vialls. "We have already proved in absolute scientific terms that Bryant could not have acted alone." Unbelievably, Australia CSI also ignored the fact that Bryant was left-handed and the few survivors testified the shooter was right-handed. Predictably, the agenda behind BOTH shootings remains the same. Terrorize people until they clamor for state-sanctioned gun control.

It worked in Australia.

The Port Arthur Massacre in Tasmania exceeded in deaths the recent Sandy Hook school massacre. The alleged lone gunman killed 35. Legislation swiftly outlawed personal weapons throughout Australia. Only the state security, the same state security that was so slow to arrive in Port Arthur and Norway and Columbine and Virginia Tech would legally possess weapons now in Australia.

Brief History of Mass Shootings in America

Mother Jones magazine recently tracked mass shooting in America back to 1982. What happened only one year earlier? In 1981, just two months after the presidential election, another mentally impaired lone gunman almost killed Ronald Reagan. Ironically, the gunman, John Hinckley, had close family ties to then current Vice President, a former head of the CIA. Of course the mainstream media, like Katherine Graham's, did not probe deeply or ask uncomfortable questions. For years the CIA had perfected a semi-secret program called MK Ultra. Mind controlled killers, drugged, hypnotized and programmed to kill and forget on command, could be used as imperial trump cards, to terrorize and then sway the masses. Like Operation Gladio. Or used effectively to remove potential troublemakers and idealists like JFK, MLK or RFK that threatened the empire. The mainstream media would simply echo the lone gunman excuse and the program would continue in place. Nothing to see here; move along.

If you study the faces of these assassins, you see obvious signs of drugged or programmed killers. Arthur Herman Bremer or Jared Lee Loughner or Anders Breivik. Study their faces. Sinister certainly. Drugged and programmed obviously. The agenda behind the mayhem as clear as can be. Problem, reaction, solution. More state security; less personal freedom. No CSI needed.

Similarities of the alleged shooters are too many to be random. Lone Gunman almost always, even when initial reports of second (or third or fourth) suspect sought or caught. Shoddy CSI work in every case, from Bryant to Breivik to Timothy McVeigh to Sirhan Sirhan. Mental case, troubled misfit. Again always. Martin Bryant, Oswald, Breivik, Lanza, Bremer. Manifesto writers or gibberish scribblers, almost all. Which proves convenient motives for criminal nuttiness in the sensational mainstream media. James Holmes, Sueng Cho, Anders Breivik. Unbelievable marksmanship from civilians with no prior experience in weapons. Alleged hatred of the state, or representatives of state: McVeigh, Oswald, Hinckley, Breivik. Yet if the shooters hate the state so much, why target a school full of innocent, unarmed students? McVeigh claimed to have hated the ATF for Waco but he blew up a building with a daycare, killing many innocent children but no ATF. April seems an auspicious month. Columbine, Port Arthur, Virginia Tech, Oklahoma City: All April. Most shooters come from privileged background, upper-middle class. Not just Lanza and Hinckley but school shooters like Dylan Klebold, Eric Harris, Anders Breivik, James Holmes. All privileged, most on prescription drugs. No motives except those conveniently provided to the mainstream media by the security state.

Some commit suicide. Or are made to look like clumsy suicides. Others surrender and the news media quickly loses interest after the brief, bloody sensation of capture. CSI? Case closed. Nothing to see here; move along. But consider ONE example: Lanza was accused of shooting his mother, but when was the autopsy performed and how exactly was proof of his crime established? Holmes was accused of entering the Aurora theater, but when was videotape released? I can ask dozens more questions that mainstream reporters should ask but don't. As Katherine Graham said: "We live in a dirty and dangerous world. There are some things the general public does not need to know, and shouldn't. I believe democracy flourishes when the government can take legitimate steps to keep its secrets and when the press can decide whether to print what it knows."

More Shootings To Come?

Sandy Hook, Connecticut is home to Suzanne Collins, author of The Hunger Games. In the book, 24 kids are chosen to die for the entertainment of the masses. Has any mainstream reporter interviewed Collins about the obvious agenda? The illuminati in Hunger Games seek to disarm the masses, divide them, terrorize them – while entertaining the rest of the population. See a pattern here? The Powers That Be (PTB) rarely need to disguise their agenda. Probably before many more sequels to Hunger Games, we'll witness another monstrous school shooting. Another Anders Breivik is being programmed, another Martin Bryant is being groomed.
One interesting footnote. The final book in The Hunger Games trilogy is Mockingjay. If you study Operation Mockingbird, the clever CIA project to sway the mainstream media and influential members, you realize the deeper you dig, the more real CSI you need.
According to Alex Constantine, in Mockingbird: The Subversion Of The Free Press By The CIA in the 1950s, "some 3,000 salaried and contract CIA employees were eventually engaged in propaganda efforts." CIA head Frank Wisner was also able to restrict newspapers from reporting about certain events. For example, the CIA plots to overthrow the governments of Iran, Operation Ajax. Nothing to see here; move along.

[Amanda]

Oops, forgot to add to my last post, more info on Port Arthur Massacre can be found here:

http://www.whale.to/b/viallspam.html

[Amanda]

Kind of thought this was interesting:

The Sandy Hook Actors PART 3

So, at about 33 secs they start getting into the whole gun control issue and supposedly the 10-year-old sister of the alleged victim asked Obama to pass some kind of legislation that would allow only military and law enforcement to have guns. And she supposedly came up with this idea all on her own. Really??? I mean, is this what a 10-year-old would be thinking about? And isn't it kind of convenient that all the families of the alleged victims seem to echo the same talking points??  I find it highly suspicious that none of the parents of the alleged victims had a different stance--how come not one of them said something like "How could something like this happen?? I pay good money in taxes, why can't we afford to have an armed security guard at our schools?" Or what if one of them really went off the range and said something like "How could something like this happen?? We spend billions and billions on waging wars overseas, we give trillions to the bankers, but we have no money to keep security guards at our schools or arm our teachers?? Our kids are sitting ducks!!"...Kind of convenient that all the families of the alleged victims are in synch w/the j-tribe agenda to disarm Americans.

[Amanda]

Here's a video and a couple of articles that actually don't buy into the demonization of Nancy and Adam Lanza:

I agree w/Morris on this one and am not convinced that Adam was even on meds.  Even if he was under the care of a psychiatrist and was prescribed drugs, that doesn't necessarily mean he was taking them. Lots of adoloscents and young adults just stop taking meds on their own. Don't we need some sort of toxicology report to verify that he was on meds?? And, yeah, the whole business about him supposedly wearing a bullet proof vest (where would he get that? ?are there records of him purchasing that??) and a mask (why the mask if you're going to kill yourself?) doesn't make any sense. I also tend to believe in a scenario along the lines of the one outlined by Morris at 5:45

video description:

The Americans will buy whatever official story is put out about Sandy Hook.
Re the anomaly of the authorities locking up the brother of the accused assassin for his own safety. I make some wild guesses. But it is strange that he is being locked up, I wonder what he wants to say

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LEADER OF CHILD KILLERS PRETENDS TO WEEP FOR VICTIMS

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During the last couple of days we have had to endure as nauseating a spectacle as one is ever likely to see.

Child-killer Barack Obama pretending to weep over the deaths of 26 children in an elementary school in Connecticut.

As we have heard no regrets whatsoever expressed regarding the 170+ children he has murdered himself in Pakistan, only a total fool could take his grief-ridden act seriously.

Can such fools possibly exist out there.

Step forward the entire Zionist mainstream media who can be guaranteed to take the words of every establishment liar at face value.

Now the entire charabang of globalist yes-men promote the enevitable next step in this Zionist-sponsored operation. The push is on to disarm the American public.

If we lived in a sane and decent world this might be seen as a good thing, but it is obvious that the soon-to-be-collapsed terrorist Zionist-controlled American state does not want a citizenry that is capable of taking on (and possibly defeating) its persecutors.

It was revealed over the weekend that there was an 'evacuation drill' taking place on the day of the killings. It is also clear that the police arrested and handcuffed two individuals at the scene, one of whom they chased through the woods before capture. The police were no doubt told to release these suspects by 'higher-ups'. They will have been told they were at the school (dressed in their camoflage kit, as police tapes reveal) as part of the scheduled drill.

A contemporaneous drill is the clearest possible marker of a false-flag event. A drill is part of the false-flag template, as Webster Tarpley explained years ago re 9/11, Gladio, 7/7 and the rest.

It allows the perpetrators to get in place with their weapons/explosives and it also gives them an excuse for being in the place of blood sacrifice if they get caught by police. It lets them off the hook.

Another element of the false-flag attack is the 'patsy'. Should we also be weeping for the mentally defective, now-vilified 20-year-old boy who was also found dead in the school last Friday?

Adam Lanza (a boy with no criminal history) and his mother were surely, in the eyes of the perpetrators, perceived as nothing more than insignificant specimens of disposable humanity.

Like the rest of us.

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Now this one still buys into the official story of Adam being the shooter, but it at least gives a more balanced perspective and it actually presents info on Adam that doesn't fit with the ZSM's demonization of him:

The scapegoating of Nancy Lanza

She was Adam Lanza's first victim. Yet while the other 26 dead in Sandy Hook are rightly mourned, Nancy is being disgracefully smeared

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Addressing the bereaved community of Sandy Hook last week, President Obama read the names of Adam Lanza's victims – all 26. On the one-week anniversary of America's second-most lethal school shooting, bells tolled across the nation – 26 times. But even omitting his suicide, the impenetrable killer's victims numbered 27.

American education has not so deteriorated that even the president can't count. The discreetly deleted fatality was Adam's first and no doubt primary target: his mother, shot in her bed, four times in the head. Yet grief on Nancy Lanza's account has been stinting. With funerals of children and teachers standing-room-only, Nancy's service last Thursday drew a sparse two dozen relatives.

According to the script in progress, Nancy Lanza doesn't deserve our tears. Implicitly or explicitly, we blame Adam's mother for his baffling rampage – if only for keeping five weapons in her home, four of which her son appropriated. Echoing similar sentiments all over the web, one White House Twitter follower wrote of Nancy, "RIP, but she's culpable".

Let's set aside European disapproval of civilians bearing arms, ever. If only by a circular definition, whereby anyone who systematically massacres 20 first-graders is ipso facto crazy, Nancy Lanza's 20-year-old was not well. On the face of it, then, was keeping guns in her house gross negligence? In which case, one more time, we get to demonise the mother.

Sandy Hook has been the most misreported story in recent memory, but a few facts may have emerged. To date, authorities have not located any confirmed diagnosis for Adam Lanza. Relatives and former classmates say he had Asperger's syndrome, but this mild form of autism has no correlation with violence. The boy is described as anything but menacing – rather, as withdrawn, antisocial, even "meek", according to an official at his high school, who explained that Adam was only assigned a psychologist because a scrawny, cringing loner might be tormented by peers.

Yet a Mail Online comment questions "why a mom with a clearly disturbed son, who most likely had committed other acts of violence (probably in the privacy of his own home) would stock such an arsenal". After all, when the facts don't bolster your viewpoint, you can always make them up. For Adam had no criminal record. Beyond 10-year-old temper tantrums – typical for Asperger's children – we lack even hearsay evidence that this kid was ever violent before. No one claims there were "warning signs".

Even the oft-printed assertion that Nancy frequently took her sons to shooting ranges is not bearing scrutiny. At a nearby range, police pored for hours over every sign-in, and found no Lanza at target practice in 2012.

Nevertheless, Nancy Lanza has been disparaged from the start. Multiple stories have pegged her as a "prepper" – a survivalist gearing up for economic collapse by stocking weapons and tinned food. Yet this gonzo tag hails from a single, biased source, Nancy's sister-in-law, and has since been contradicted by friends. An acquaintance said she seemed "high-strung" – an opaque and prospectively neutral adjective that went viral, repeated to insinuate that the mother herself might have been unbalanced. And tut-tut: she never seemed eager to invite neighbours into her home.

Much of what we now know about Nancy is none of our business: the square footage of her house, the size of her alimony payments. For the purpose of deciding whether her murder is worthy of our mourning, it is our business whether her son was overtly unhinged, so should never have been living in a household with guns.

Unnervingly, to our knowledge Adam Lanza never gave any outward expression to the malice festering in his head. Before that awful Friday, he wouldn't have appeared necessarily more dangerous than any other shy, quiet young man.

Around 270 million weapons in the US are kept legally in private hands. Presumably, a good proportion of American gun owners have families – including college-age boys still living at home. Every such American is thus guilty of the exact same dereliction as Nancy Lanza was. Do they all deserve to die? Indeed, any gun owner assumes the risk that the weapon will be misused, perhaps to horrific effect.

Sure, bring on the gun control debate. But Nancy Lanza is a scapegoat. A vibrant woman of 52 was killed in Connecticut, and her death might have merited at least one damn bell toll.

[Amanda]

Oops, I forgot to add in my last post that the information below from  http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... own-mother
was also validated by Joyce Riley (GCN archives, hour 1, from Mon or Tues, I think). One of the headlines that she read was that the WSJ went out to all the shooting ranges in that area of CT and found no evidence that Nancy or Adam were ever shooting there.  And the info below suggests that the police also came to the same conclusion. But what's interesting is that earlier this week, I heard on the radio that "federal authorities" were going to all of the shooting ranges in CT to search for "evidence." So, I guess the CT police and WSJ can't be trusted?? It will be interesting to see whether the federal authorities are able to find anything (or manufacture anything)

Even the oft-printed assertion that Nancy frequently took her sons to shooting ranges is not bearing scrutiny. At a nearby range, police pored for hours over every sign-in, and found no Lanza at target practice in 2012.

[Krag]

"Sure, bring on the gun control debate. But Nancy Lanza is a scapegoat. A vibrant woman of 52 was killed in Connecticut, and her death might have merited at least one damn bell toll."

She is just being buried by an avalanche of negativity, but the media can't even get its stereotypes right....She's a "prepper"?, that has got to be the mischaracterization of the year.  I see her as basically a gay divorcee wannabe, who grew up on a farm, married an overachiever who climbed the social and corporate ladder and probably wanted more than she was providing in terms of happiness, it looks like she initiated the divorce.  If Adam was really a monster, where is the evidence of it?

I have brought up questions about the investigation with various Connecticuters and no one wants to talk about it.  The guy who changed my oil today who lives in Danbury left the room quickly when I brought up the fact of how shoddy the investigation has been.

[Ognir]

Hey krag WTF are you? no intro, just join in..

[Krag]

Horsefeathers!  I am a member of many sites, several focused on fraud as this one is.

A judge sealed documents of the investigation which seems to be the pattern here;

http://www.newstimes.com/local/article/ ... 150125.php

[FrankDialogue]

It should be obvious by now that the whole Sandy Hook thing is an elaborate bullshit story...No evidence at all.

This 'soccer mom' community is the perfect place to pull off an elaborate Hollywood production like this, because you have relatively comfortable economic sheeple there who will not do anything to jeopardize their comfortable lifestyle.

And sure: they'll kill and smear Nancy and Adam Lanza just like they have murdered thousand of Palestinian and Iraqi mothers and children (in the Iraqi case, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS).

Or, in an even more creepy scenario, did Nancy and Adam Lanza even exist at all?

[Amanda]

Here are a couple of great responses to that hollywood whore PSA telling Americans to "demand a plan" for gun control:

Celebrities Call to Ban Guns From Government

Now for some reason I can't post this video here, but you can go to the link:

Demand A Plan HYPOCRITES

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[Amanda]

Krag- Thanks for the info on the judge sealing the documents---definitely fits the pattern!!

Frank- totally agree w/you, this is definitely looking like a hollywood production, though I still tend to believe Nancy and Adam Lanza were real



Also, it's kind of interesting that some "alternative media" people who are pro-gun had their facebook accounts shut down--not quite sure what to make of that yet. But it gets talked about in the article below. This also addresses the whole issue of how the gun in the trunk was handled, which has been bothering me ever since I saw the video of them taking it out of the car. At the bottom of the article are some interesting links w/info on the whole Batman thing.

Sandy Hook: Huge Hoax and Anti-Gun "Psy Op"
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By Jim Fetzer and Dennis Cimino
 
"The page you requested was not found."–Anthony J. Hilder facebook page notice

There are obvious signs that tell the difference between genuine and fabricated event.  The recent shooting of police and firemen responding to a deliberately-set fire has all the signs of being a bona fide event:  there is a single consistent narrative, one shooter has been clearly identified, and there has been no good reason to doubt that the subject, William Spengler,  went off the rails and committed the crimes. There are many articles about it, which relate the same basic themes:  "Killer of 2 NY Firemen had semiautomatic rifle, left note":  "Police say the man who lured firefighters in Webster, N.Y., into a deadly ambush had the same make and caliber semiautomatic rifle as the one used in the Connecticut school massacre.  Webster Police Chief Gerald Pickering said Tuesday that 62-year-old William Spengler was armed with a .223-caliber Bushmaster rifle, a .38-caliber revolver and a 12-gauge shotgun in Monday's ambush. Spengler killed two firefighters and wounded two others before fatally shooting himself."

However bizarre the event, there is nothing about it that suggests it was either a hoax or a psy op. In the case of Sandy Hook, however, the situation is completely different, where we have one inconsistency after another: the mother was a teacher there and Adam was a student; the mother was not a teacher there an Adam was not a student.  One shooter was involved, yet police radio reports show a second suspect was apprehended at the scene and a police helicopter video show yet a third suspect being tracked in the woods.  The principal called the local paper about the shooting; the principal was dead on the scene. Excellent studies of the incoherence of the Sandy Hook narrative have been published by Niall Bradley, "Sandy Hook massacre story spins out of control" (Veterans Today, 20 December 2012) and by Professor James F. Tracy, "The Sandy Hook School Massacre: Unanswered Questions and Missing Information"  (Global Research, 25 December 2012).  Even NBC News has reported that there were four rather than two handguns inside the school and no long gun. There is no consistent story or coherent narrative.

The Bushmaster Hoax

Perhaps the most important point made by Niall Bradley concerned the Bushmaster, which was supposed to be the weapon that was used to slaughter 20 children and six adults as follows:

This Associated Press/Newsday article on Saturday, December 15th, reported that "Only the rifle was used on the victims", a statement that is supported by Dr. H. Wayne Carver II, Connecticut state's chief medical examiner. Of the seven autopsies he personally performed on Sandy Hook victims, all of them had "three to 11 wounds apiece". He also said that the 'gunman' used a military-style rifle rigged to quickly reload, and that the 'shooter' was able to reload so quickly because he had "taped two magazines together." Even before the State Chief Medical Examiner had given these statements, it had been stated that spent shell casings from .233-caliber (rifle) bullets were found inside the school.

So all the victims' wounds were the result of rifle-fire, specifically from "the rifle", the one we were told in early reports was found in the trunk of a car in the parking lot! This is simply not credible.

Professor Tracy observes that the report given by the medical examiner raises further questions about the weapon used, leading Tracy to question whether the man who participated in this interview was the real H. Wayne Carver or an impostor:  " . . . the H. Wayne Carver who showed up to the December 15 press conference is an almost entirely different man, appearing apprehensive and uncertain, as if he is at a significant remove from the postmortem operation he had overseen. The multiple gaffes, discrepancies, and hedges in response to reporters' astute questions suggest that he is either under coercion or an imposter. While the latter sounds untenable it would go a long way in explaining his sub-pedestrian grasp of medical procedures and terminology."

Medical Examiner FULL Press Conference - Sandy Hook School Mass Shooting

With this in mind," Tracy continues, "extended excerpts from this exchange are worthy of recounting here in print. Carver is accompanied by Connecticut State Police Lieutenant H. Paul Vance and additional Connecticut State Police personnel. The reporters are off-screen and thus unidentified so I have assigned them simple numerical identification based on what can be discerned of their voices":

Reporter #1: So the rifle was the primary weapon?
H. Wayne Carver: Yes.
Reporter #1: [Inaudible]
Carver: Uh (pause). Question was what caliber were these bullets. And I know—I probably know more about firearms than most pathologists but if I say it in court they yell at me and don't make me answer [sic]—so [nervous laughter]. I'll let the police do that for you.
Reporter #2: Doctor can you tell us about the nature of the wounds. Were they at very close range? Were the children shot at from across the room?
Carver: Uhm, I only did seven of the autopsies. The victims I had ranged from three to eleven wounds apiece and I only saw two of them with close range shooting. Uh, but that's, uh y'know, a sample. Uh, I really don't have detailed information on the rest of the injuries.
[Given that Carver is Connecticut's top coroner and in charge of the entire postmortem this is a startling admission.-JT]
Reporter #3: But you said that the long rifle was used?
Carver: Yes.
Reporter #3: But the long rifle was discovered in the car.
State Police Lieutenant Vance: That's not correct, sir.
Unidentified reporter #4: How many bullets or bullet fragments did you find in the autopsy. Can you tell us that?
Carver: Oh. I'm lucky I can tell you how many I found. I don't know. There were lots of them, OK? This type of weapon is not, uh ... the bullets are designed in such a fashion that the energy—this is very clinical. I shouldn't be saying this. But the energy is deposited in the tissue so the bullet stays in [the tissue].
[In fact, the Bushmaster .223 Connecticut police finally claimed was used in the shooting is designed for long range field use and utilizes high velocity bullets with a muzzle velocity of 3,000 fps, the energy of which even at considerable distance would penetrate several bodies before finally coming to rest in tissue.]

The inquiry of Allan Rees

I received an inquiry from Allan Rees of noliesradio asking if I could review a view he has archived showing an officer unloading a weapon from the trunk of the car:

Hi Jim,

Can you view the first video in our post here and determine whether or not the Bushmaster was retrieved from the trunk of Adam's vehicle? If it was the Bushmaster, the official story hits the brick wall. I can see the clip in the video. Also what is the officer doing to the gun? Is what he is doing characteristic to a bushmaster rather than a shotgun or other rifle? 

how to: DESTROY EVIDENCE school shooting

As a former Marine Corps officer who used to supervise marksmanship training, I studied the video and replied with my observations about what could be seen, in relation to the handgrip or magazine (which extend from the bottom of the weapon) as opposed to the carrying handle (which extends from the top):

Allan,

My observations:

(1) It looks like a Bushmaster, because the handgrip is visible in some of the frames.

(2) He is ejecting rounds from the chamber, which appear to be of a small caliber.

(3) Shotgun shells would be much, much larger and very obvious upon ejection.

I recommend obtaining confirmation, but this appears to have been the Bushmaster.

Jim

P.S. I am going to contact some friends confirm my observations.

Shotguns are more familiar than assault weapons, but here is a photograph to illustrate their typical size and shape, along with a sample of a few shells, which are obviously MUCH LARGER than .223 rounds: (photo)

The person I contacted for a second opinion was Dennis Cimino, with whom I have authored articles here on Veterans Today and elsewhere.  Dennis has extensive military experience and is one of the smartest men I have ever known at sorting out what is really going on when it comes to covert ops:

I blew [some of these frames] up pretty large, going too much bigger yields too much pixellation to do much with the shot then but this is clearly an assault rifle not a shotgun. The ammo on the cement behind the vehicle looks to be most likely to be .223 ammo, but that's just a guess as those surely are not SHOTGUN shells.

So, for what it's worth, I decree this is the assault rifle here in the trunk, and if it was in the trunk, how could it have been used in any shooting unless the 'dead' shooter got up and put it into the trunk after he killed himself???

I was initially puzzled there was no carrying handle of the weapon in the trunk, so I checked it out and fond that Bushmaster makes several versions that do not have carrying handles, some camo, some not: (photos)

Police Lt. H. Paul Vance

Something is very wrong with the role of Connecticut State Police Lieutenant H. Paul Vance, who, as the extract from the interview reflects, denied that the Bushmaster was found in the trunk of the car rather than beside the body.  I strongly suspect that he was the officer who unloaded the magazine at the time, which has raised additional questions about his competence and role, which Dennis has expressed:

If any of the so called 'victims' that died were with .223 rounds in them, that it's impossible for the shooter who offed himself at the scene to have also carried this weapon to the car and put it into the trunk.The handling of the weapon is absolutely not being done by a trained law enforcement official, to be frank about it, they would not have handled the weapon like that before it got taken to a forensics lab and had the prints taken from all of the handled parts of it.

No cop investigating a crime scene would handle it like that. And it's too thick to be a shotgun so it's an assault rifle. whether it's the same one in your pictures is not clear, the weapons has a multi round magazine, why didn't the ahole eject that before cycling the rounds out thru the weapon like that, when pulling the mag out of it would have sufficed.

Very very very odd.

But handling the thing like that was outrageous. no cop would do that, which is more proof that was being done for the press, not for any investigation

LT. PAUL VANCE EVADES REPORTER - Sandy Hook School Shooting Fraud
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During his press briefing, a reporter asks about the mother of Adam Lanza. The question is whether she was related to the school or if she was. Vance pauses more than a moment, then speaks at some length about the man arrested in camouflage and released (no significant details are given there, either), with nary a word about the mother. The reporters then, cleverly distracted away from the fact they didn't hear an answer, start shouting other questions. He has deflected them. Note his slight smiles at points while he discusses the camo guy not the mother.


Vance also says to another reporter in a personal interview that the investigation will take months. But if the official story (of a lone shooter killing 20 kids and six adults) is in fact correct, why should it take "months"?  Why don't we already know?  It reminds me of the Warren Commission's having sealed its documents and records for 75 years on the grounds of "national security", since, if its conclusion were correct (and a lone gunman had assassinated JFK), there would have been no national security issue.   Before that, we hear him say the most difficult thing is when a reporter has a question that he's not prepared to answer, "for whatever reason".

Lt. Vance: investigation to take months

In a subsequent post, Dennis elaborated on the important points that he was making here:

Needless to say,  it makes ZERO SENSE that the best weapon for the killing was left in the trunk of the vehicle. and could NOT possibly have been used at the school because the dead shooter couldn't have put it back into the trunk.

Which raises the all important question: "Say, this kid shot mommy in the face 6 times with this thing that day, how many rounds did the stupid moron [officer at the trunk] eject from the still inserted magazine onto the pavement behind the weapon?"

I'm presuming that the magazine was 'full' though no gun owner would ever allow any weapon to be so stored as this puts a preset into the magazine feed spring, which is a bad idea all the way around. IF the magazine was 'full' at the house, and the kid didn't calmly sit down and reload it again after killing mommy, that magazine would have a total capacity minus '6′ or however the guy fired into mommy's face.

Another good reason for the trunk of the vehicle to have been 'sealed' immediately for the vehicle to be processed properly at the State's crime laboratory for fingerprints and other clues. Once the trunk was opened on the car and it was ascertained that the trunk did not contain any obvious booby traps of any kind, the trunk should have been shut again very carefully, the trunk lid sealed by special evidence anti tamper tape across the trunk lid seal to the body, and indeed over the key opening, and the vehicle put on a flatbed and towed to the crime lab for extensive analysis.

My guess is that that was not done. But that's exactly what should have been done when the police determined the car contained weapons not used in the shooting, obviously, least not at the SCHOOL. That car would have gone to the central crime lab there in Hartford for processing, not mucked with on location by morons.

Anti-Gun Propaganda

As I explained in "Did Mossad death squads slaughter American children at Sandy Hook?" (Veterans Today, 23 December 2012),

(1) The most likely scenario, given what we know now, is that Adam Lanza and his mother killed the day before. Adam's body picked up by local police. He was attired in a SWAT outfit, including body armor, and stored in the school.

(2) A three-man team entered the school, one was arrested in the school–cuffed and put on the lawn–two went out the back door, one was arrested, the third appears to have escaped. You can find this on helicopter videos.

(3) Those arrested are currently not in police custody; their names were never released. That is a telling sign that we are being sold a story that is based on fiction, not on fact. What else are the local police concealing?


It now appears that they were also concealing that the Bushmaster was still in the car's trunk, which of course means that it cannot have been the weapon responsible for slaughtering 20 children and 6 adults.  If they were killed by .223 rounds, therefore, then those must have come from other assault weapons used by other shooters, which is precisely what appears to have taken place.

Nothing stands between DHS and complete domination of American than a population that is heavily armed and capable of resistance. Undermining our 2nd amendment rights by fabricated attacks–which can be arranged at will by those who control the cover operations of this nation–must be understood to be the real threat that we confront, not bizarre incidents like this one, which–even if we were to take it as the press has been reporting it–could not have been prevented by gun control.


For those still in doubt

This very peculiar event has been followed by a massive propaganda campaign to promote gun control and the confiscation of assault weapons, followed by a stunning act of censorship for pro-gun accounts:

"Facebook purges pro-gun accounts" posted on Fuk Facebook and "Facebook purges pro-gun accounts" on inforwars.com:

Facebook Purges Pro-Gun Accounts

The following is a list of Facebook accounts operated by individuals in the alternative media that have been shut down by Facebook staff over the past 24 hours. Infowars writer Aaron Dykes and political dissident Brandon J. Raub have also had their accounts deleted. Raub was snatched by police and forcibly imprisoned in a psychiatric ward earlier this year for posting political content on Facebook. Infowars editor Kurt Nimmo also had his account suspended this morning.

Kurt Nimmo (account suspended)
Aaron Dykes (account inactive)
Brandon J. Raub (account inactive)
Michael F Rivero (account inactive)
Anthony J Hilder (account inactive)
William Lewis (account inactive)
Richard Gage (account inactive)
William Rodriguez (account inactive)
Infowar Artist (account inactive)
We are Change (account inactive)
Wacboston At Twitter (account inactive)
Michael Murphy Tmp (account inactive)
Robert M Bowman (account inactive)
Peter Dale Scott (account inactive)
Jason Infowars (account inactive)
Mike Skuthan (account inactive)
Packy Savvenas (account inactive)
Sean Wright (account inactive)
Katherine Albrect (account inactive)

It is important to stress that most of these accounts have not simply been temporarily suspended, they have been shut down completely. What could be more telling of the true significance of Sandy Hook? The American people are not even going to be allowed to debate the merits of gun control.

Indeed, according to the latest report, Sen. Diane Feinstein (D-CA) and her allies in the gun control movement are "going for broke":  "The definition of an "Assault Weapon" in this bill is so broad you can drive a truck through it! They're targeting EVERYTHING — rifles, shotguns and even handguns.... If passed, Feinstein's so-called "Assault Weapons Ban" would:

•Ban the sale, transfer, importation, and manufacturing or 120 specifically named rifles, shotguns and handguns;
•Ban the sale, transfer, importation and manufacturing of ALL firearms with a detachable magazine and at least one "military characteristic" — which could mean just about anything that makes a gun "look scary."
•Bans the sale, transfer, importation, and manufacturing of magazines holding more than 10 rounds;
•Force owners of ALL "grandfathered" weapons to undergo an intrusive background check and unnecessary fingerprinting;
•Force owners of ALL "grandfathered" weapons to federally register their guns after obtaining permission slip from local law enforcement showing their guns are not in violation of state or local law. That's right. If you own a $10 magazine that's more than 10 rounds, you'll have to register it with the BATFE in their National Firearms Registry.

It appears that even the owners of supposedly "grandfathered" firearms will be treated like common criminals, which leaves little room for doubt that Sandy Hook is being used to as a snare to confiscate "guardians of men".


The Incoherence of Sandy Hook

My [Dennis Cimino's] thoughts on this whole thing go in this direction:  given all of the 'fakery' and 'faked dead identities' of the 9/11 fiasco, one thing comes to mind about the teachers telling the children being led out of the school: "Cover your eyes and close them" or something to that effect. Granted, you would not want children to see that kind of death, but had that been the case, it would have been possible to cover some of the more 'messy' victims up so that the exiting children didn't have to see them as they walked out of the school.

Furthermore, a staged shooting event would even to a child seem 'nonsensical' and 'surreal' say if any of the so-called 'dead' just happened to be breathing or moving still, as it is fully possible that IF this was staged, they didn't just use crash test dummies for corpses.so there is some doubt in my mind about the veracity of the 'deceased' children and the teachers. We know many dead from 9/11 never existed...were created by the government to get people to feel so sorry for them.

This thing possibly was either one of these two possibilities: (i) fully staged and faked, based on the press conference and the 'read the card' and the smirking [grieving father's] face in that video; or (ii) was done by the moss*d with EFF BEE EYE help and the State Police helping, because the handling of the weapon in the trunk of the car is totally COUNTER to what any REAL law enforcement people would have done with that weapon.

Per the comments, you don't wipe down or manhandle a murder weapon under any circumstances, and if you must pick it up you do so in a fashion that ensures that minimal interference with fingerprints will occur when you do lift it up. using wire or other means to bring it out of the trunk would be the preferred method, certainly with latex gloves on so as to not impart the officer's prints at the very least.

So based on the [grieving father] at the press converence being told 'just read the card' and all the other nonsense, this was staged.  How staged is anyone's guess.  My gut tells me that there could be truth in the fact that the shooter killed his mom and himself at the house and then treasonous scum decided to exploit it and then stage the rest in the following day to make it a GUN GRAB EXTRAVAGANZA here, [which, between Obama and those who salivate over gun-control, even though it makes us completely vulnerable to DHS, as I have explained in "Homeland Security: Preparing for Massive Civil War".]

Moreover, if this was the weapon MOMMY had that son killed mommy with, before going to the school, it certainly would have a paper trail that shows MOMMY BOUGHT THIS gun. And if sonny boy toted it to school, he intended to use it. it had a much higher firing rate than any semi-automatic pistol would have, much more deadly and accurate to kill with [assuming he had the physical ability to handle it and aim and fire with accuracy], and to be honest, under any coat easily concealed if the barrel were allowed to be tucked under a waist band of pants before going into the building.
 
The semi-automatic pistols, for which a round is automatically loaded with each shot fired, but where, unlike automatic weapons, rounds are not continuously fired as long as the trigger is depressed and the magazine remains loaded] would have been backups, one in each coat pocket with the assault weapon being the main weapon for the killing. Being that this, the Bushmaster, of all the guns had to have had a federal background check involved, as do all guns in most states, MOMMY had to have purchased it. even if she paid cash for it there should be a store record. But those records have not surfaced and the latest we have is Adam Lanzo was not out practicing the use of the Bushmaster or any other firearm.

Postscript on Mind Control

Here are some resources on mind-control and other psy ops in this gun-control saga:

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