Sandy Hook Connecticut state police hold a news conference in Newtown

[Amanda]

Okay, quick correction on the black honda.  Looks like an update was posted this morning on the info about the black honda being registered to Chris Rodia, a drug dealer from Norwalk, rather than the Lanzas.  The guy writing the update seems to suggest that some sort of mistake was made by the person who posted the police recordings:
 
http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2012/12 ... of-norwalk


As far as I'm concerned, the official story is a total joke--just another jewish media created fairy tale about a crazed lone gunman

[Christopher Marlowe]

Frank Dialogue wrote: #2.........Potemkin School?...Yes, refer to Point #1...We also know that the 'authorities' are creating a 'replicant school' for the surviving children to go to, with all kinds of psychological gobbeldy gook given as reasoning.

Good point

CSR wrote: This story is still playing out. I personally think the kid lost it after drifting into a form of schizophrenia. He probably knew he was going to be sent away at some point and probably broke into a rage after seeing some kind of evidence. yeah, this is from the MSM... but it kind of rings true for me.

But that Washington Post article is 100% assertions with zero proof. Surely we can have something more to go on than "ringing true".

Ringing true doesn't work for me. My imagination is too good. Someone once described Prince Charles as an "intellectual pillow", bearing the impressions of the person with whom he last spoke. I remember reading that and thinking how much that applied to my own way of thinking:
An idea reverberates in my head;
I understand it;
It becomes 'true', or perhaps 'true enough'.

Fortunately, I have come to learn that the MSM lies like a rug. Thus, anything that the MSM says is suspected of being untrue...because they said it.

In this case, we also have the familiar tale of a story being told, and then retold. The MSM says, "The story is still evolving..." Huh? Listen, MSM: You get the story. You get it confirmed by another source. Then you publish.
The principal said, blah blah blah.  
--But the principal is dead now.
The teacher's car was shot up.
--In the parking lot, when the shooting went on in the school.
We arrested several people at the school on the day of the shooting.
--But there was only one perp, and he is dead.
Lanza shot his mother, and then went to the school...to kill his mother who is a teacher, substitute, teacher's aid, whom nobody knows.
--But there were people at the Lanza house

Why did Lanza go to the school? He was in an argument? With whom? Who is the source of this information?
How did Lanza get into the building?
How did Lanza get all of that military hardware and ammo into the school?
Why was there an RIP Victoria Soto page on facebook created before the shooting?
Why does the Batman map say Sandy Hook, and match up with the Sandy Hook map?
Why is there no physical evidence of anything?
Why do parents ID children by photos?  Why not by milk-cartons? Why not by an impressionist painting?

There are many more questions than this. But there is more than enough for me NOT to believe the Washington Post.

[Krag]

The Norwalk paper had an article on Rodia today, make up your own mind if this guy was involved:  http://www.norwalkcitizenonline.com/new ... 164420.php

[Christopher Marlowe]

Virginia officials cancel classes in Narrows after website connects town with Batman movie and Newtown shooting

Giles County Public Schools said they reviewed the article, published on RevelationNow.net, and decided to suspend school on Wednesday as a precaution. No actual threats were received, officials said.
Comments (2)
By Erik Ortiz / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Wednesday, January 2, 2013, 10:49 AM
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[Virginia's Giles County Public Schools closed its five schools in the town of Narrows after an online report connected the name to other major shootings in 2012.]

A necessary safety precaution or overreaction?

A Virginia school district canceled classes Wednesday after an online article connected the Batman movie "The Dark Knight Rises" to the school shooting in Newtown, Conn., and, presumably, one that could occur in Narrows, a small town in western Virginia.

RELATED: ATTORNEYS FOR COLO. SHOOTING SUSPECT TO SUBPOENA JOURNALIST

While the Giles County Sheriff's Office said there were no reported threats to the town's five schools, concerned parents had been contacting officials.

"We have to take this as serious information," said Giles County Sheriff Morgan Millirons, according to CBS affiliate WDBJ in Roanoke.

A notice posted by the schools superintendent said they were alerted last week to a Dec. 18 article entitled "The next school massacre target?" on the website RevelationNow.net.

According to the article, the name "Sandy Hook" is referenced on a map in "The Dark Knight Rises," the same movie that was showing when suspected gunman James Holmes killed 12 people and injured 58 others at an Aurora, Colo., theater last July.

On Dec. 14, another gunman, Adam Lanza, rushed into Newtown's Sandy Hook Elementary School and killed 26 people and then himself.

The article says "Narrows" is another "strike zone" referenced in a map in the Batman movie.

"The author, who posted this article, did an online Google search based 'on a hunch' for 'Narrows Schools,'" wrote schools Superintendent Terry Arbogast in his notice to parents. "From this search, information for Narrows Elementary/Middle School and Narrows High School appeared."

RevelationNow editor Michael Erevna, who wrote the article, told the Daily News that after noticing the name "Aurora" also appearing in a trailer before "The Dark Knight Rises," his team decided to examine the movie under a microscope. That's when they came across references to Sandy Hook and Narrows.

"The Internet is abuzz with theory, but some of them are showing concrete evidence," Erevna said. "We are just seeing a pattern now."

He added that he doesn't regret that his website, which also focuses on spirituality, prophecy and UFO sightings, ran with the information.

"We felt strongly about publishing this article," Erevna said. "At the least, it led (Giles County schools) to review their security."

Motives for why the shooters in Aurora and Newtown committed their bloodthirsty rampages are not clear.

The schools in Narrows, meanwhile, are working with law enforcement to ensure children are safe and will have extra patrols when classes resume Thursday.

Nichole Wilson, a mother of two, told The Roanoke Times that she supported the county's reaction.

"I'm glad they closed down, regardless if they think it is absolutely nothing or completely serious," Wilson said. "They are taking the precautions, and I think they are trying to ensure safety."


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... z2Gyw1JgeR

[FrankDialogue]

The Norwalk paper had an article on Rodia today, make up your own mind if this guy was involved:  http://www.norwalkcitizenonline.com/new ... 164420.php

This begs a simple question, Krag; The license plate number; was it Rodia's ?... Did the police misidentify it?...Did the media misidentify it, and where did they get their information from?...License plate numbers can be very easily checked through the state Department of Motor Vehicles...Did the police make a mistake?...How was the car identified as Rodia's?..Was this another media 'mistake'?...This question was not addressed in the posted article...Rodia only say he 'was not a conspiracy theorist'.  :roll:

[Christopher Marlowe]

The earlier post from willyloman talked about this. They are saying there was two different situations being reported on the police scanners at the same time; i.e. Rodia's car completely uninvolved, and were they just reading his name at the same time.  Everybody has been working off this assumption. The license plate should be double checked by someone with access...

Here's the post from willyloman:

UPDATE: (Jan 3rd 2013)  The original recording from Dec. 14th (the day of the shooting) posted by Radioman911 on his Youtube account may have been flawed to start with. He lists two official sources as the origins of the video he put together as

   

Audio provided by Radioreference.com
    1. Newtown PD/Fire Radioreference.com/apps/audio/?feedId=7623
    2. CT State Police Radioreference.com/apps/audio/?feedId=9921

There is nothing to indicate that he was posting partial recordings from Greenwich Ct. PD 50 miles from the scene of the Sandy Hook shooting. But that may have been what happened.

Below is an email sent to Radioman911 from the operations commander of the Greenwich PD in which he claims that Radioman911 has included their 800 MHz signal along with the CT state signal and Newtown's. He claims to recognize the officer's voice on the recording as well as the dispatcher who replies to his inquiry. I post the email from Capt. Mark Kordick Ct. PD in it's entirety as published with permission by Radioman911.

   

Dear Sir:

    Your upload to YouTube relative to the Newtown CT Shooting radio traffic has caused quite a stir as it relates to a Mr. Christopher Rodia. I'm not sure where you sourced your feed, but the traffic related to Mr. Rodia is from a 800 MHz six-channel trunked LMR system in use in Greenwich, CT. Greenwich is approximately 45 miles away from Newtown. The Greenwich system carries only municipal Greenwich traffic (public safety and non-public safety) and is in no way connected to the state's 800 MHz trunked system or Newtown's.

    I am certain of this because after the matter (and all of the Internet Conspiracy Theory buzz – just google "Christopher Rodia") was brought to our attention, we went back and checked our recordings for December 14. In addition to just recognizing the voices involved as Greenwich Police Officers and Dispatchers, we have all of the audio from our recording system that matches all of the "Rodia" traffic (and some of the other unrelated-to-Newtown casualty call traffic that occurs at the same time.)

    In any event, I'm sure you'll want to help clarify this matter. The "Rodia" traffic is definitely contemporaneous – but from miles away. This has unfortunately additionally clouded an already confusing and emotional issue. Worse, it has brought considerable (and wholly undeserved) angst to Mr. Rodia. Anything you can do to help clear this up would certainly be appreciated.

    Feel free to message me back with any questions. I can also be contacted at mailto:mkordick@greenwichct.org">mkordick@greenwichct.org.

    Yours Truly,

    Capt. Mark Kordick
    Commander – Operations Division
    Greenwich Police Dept

Furthermore with regard to the recordings themselves. A reader here linked me to a GLP article which erroneously states that Radioman911 was monitoring several feeds from towns including Greenwich (Radioman911 sourced audio feeds ONLY from State Police and Newtown) but that article does give a breakdown of what appears to be additional mentions of what appears to be a traffic stop prior to the 30:11 mark in the video which mentions Rodia. I decided to take the time to either confirm or reject these listed references in conjunction with the original posting of the recording at the 30:11 mark:

 

"A man with the same voice who calls out the Rodia info says at 10:00:33 a.m. (25:02 in Youtube video) "33 to Headquarters, motor vehicle stop.""  CONFIRMED

    "He comes back on the radio at 10:01:12 a.m. (25:42 in Youtube video), in between shooting-related calls about getting "buses" aka ambulances, he (33) says "722-ZHA, radar," meaning that the MV stop was by radar of a car with that plate." CONFIRMED same voice

    At the 30:11 mark of the video in question, you can hear someone reading the license plate of the suspect's vehicle: "872 YEO possible suspect vehicle". CONFIRMED different voice

    At 10:06:13 a.m. (30:43) he's back, "33 to headquarters. Run the operator. R..O..D..I..A , Christopher A. (scrambled) 26th, 69" CONFIRMED same voice

It is understandable that given the information from the original source, Radioman911, many came to the conclusion that the plate that was read over the air as the suspect vehicle tracked back to Rodia. Radioman failed to inform viewers of his video that the recording included an area 50 miles from the scene which would not have been responding to the scene at Sandy Hook. That's a key part of all of this.

So it would appear that Rodia's name was mistakenly identified with the license plate of the suspect vehicle. Again, this is based entirely on this recording which we already know is flawed as per the "official position"

As another reader pointed out, releasing the registration of the vehicle would easily put all of this too rest but as of yet, we have no information along those lines.

This also does not address the variety of problems with this case including but not limited to the growing list of efforts to fabricate a motive for Adam Lanza by the mainstream media and the alternative media alike. This and other issues are certainly the most glaring problems with the case.

But in light of all of this, I have to say it would appear that the connection between Rodia and the suspect vehicle have been misguided but not malicious. Independent researchers went with the information made available to them, myself included, and drew a conclusion based on that.

I will not erase the Chris Rodia thread I created before as other sites have done. I will post this update on the thread immediately so that people coming to view it will  see this new information and they can come to their own conclusions.

——- end Jan 3rd update ———

[Amanda]

Okay, I listened to this quick post from John Friend http://johnfriendsblog.blogspot.com/201 ... s-911.html and this Brian Stavley guy mentioned something about how an Emilie Parker Facebook fund was set up before they even knew she was dead (like on the day of the event, while the school was in lockdown).

This is talked about here:

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum ... MyNTU4NA==

Why is "Emilie Parker Fund" FB started BEFORE the creator(s) knew she was dead???

 
The very FIRST post on the page (after the cover photo was updated):

"Alan Prothero and I have set up an account at America First Credit Union to help Robbie Parker and his family with their immediate needs due to their loss of their beautiful girl in the shooting this morning in Conn. You can put funds in the account or give them directly to me or Alan. Please contribute what you can and spread the word: Emilie Parker Memorial Account at America First Credit Union. Account #9056862."

... and the SEVERAL posts later...

"We've had an update. The school is still on lock down, I assume pending investigations. Robbie and Alissa have very limited information. They haven't been able to see Emilie, and they do not know if she is still in the school or if she was one of the ones rushed to the hospital. We apologize for the misinformation that we gave you earlier. But we know still that sweet Emilie was a victim. We just don't know any detail about what exactly happened to her."

But WHY would anyone create a memorial account fund, if they - at the time they created the fucking thing - had no idea of the person's situation?

Check it out for yourselves:
https://www.facebook.com/EmilieParkerFund

Okay, maybe others can look into this. I'm not that familiar w/facebook and when I went to the page, I couldn't find the above post about the school being in lockdown.

[Christopher Marlowe]

Okay, maybe others can look into this. I'm not that familiar w/facebook and when I went to the page, I couldn't find the above post about the school being in lockdown.

I just checked.  It's there: on the bottom of the page on the left hand side.

[Amanda]

CM- Thanks!

Also, fyi, looks like there might be a change/problem/update(?) to the info on the RIP Emilie Parker Facebook page created Sept 23, 2011 that was posted by Professor Tracey  here: <!-- m -->http://memoryholeblog.com/2013/01/01/sa ... f-tragedy/<!-- m -->

I just scanned the article and it looks like he took the screenshot of the facebook page down (it was definitely there a couple of days ago).  I asked him about this in the comments section, so hopefully he'll be able to explain what's going on.



And I guess the videos below can be thrown into the "for what it's worth" category...I just thought this first one was kind of interesting b/c I'm pretty sure this guy has a media background (so a bit of an insider?) and he's questioning everything--even suggests Sandy Hook is "just like the moon landing" and "media magic."

Beautiful Rant By Adam Curry About How Fake the Sandy Hook Shooting Is, The No Agenda Show
[youtube:1arzv5qr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW8tVWtrQeM[/youtube]1arzv5qr]


This guy is also questioning what we are being shown:

If Sandy Hook A Hoax Then No Dead Children - Morris

[Amanda]

Fetzer linked to this in the comments section of his last article (<!-- m -->http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/27 ... un-psy-op/<!-- m -->):


Connecticut Cop Goes Public: Exposes Sandy Hook's Contradictions, Inconsistencies & Gun Grab Agenda

<!-- m -->http://govtslaves.info/connecticut-cop- ... ab-agenda/<!-- m -->


(Thomas Dishaw)  As the Sandy Hook conspiracy spirals out of control. Many questions have yet to be answered or even brought up by the main stream media. Alternative news outlets are leading the charge with great investigative journalism, bringing no one to believe the official story.  Connecticut cop Mark S. Mann breaks down all the evidence and facts surrounding Adam Lanza's killing spree. Don't we all love a good conspiracy?

Sandy Hook: Cop in CT on Contradictions, Inconsistencies & Gun Grab - Part ONE

Sandy Hook: Cop in CT on Contradictions, Inconsistencies & Gun Grab - Part TWO
[youtube:1b7oudst]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYBDsGLNfNw[/youtube]1b7oudst]


From the second video:

Who were the three men who were detained? Who were the three men? Who were those guys? And what sort of magical powers do they have to get to be detained and then just get to disappear after one of the most heinous school massacres in US history?

(As Professor Tracey said in his interview w/Kevin Barrett--they had to be men w/high level connections)

[Michael K.]

Who were the three men who were detained? Who were the three men? Who were those guys? And what sort of magical powers do they have to get to be detained and then just get to disappear after one of the most heinous school massacres in US history?

RE: I digress momentarily, but the whole pattern reminds me of the shoot-up which occurred in Arizona earlier this year:

http://theinfounderground.com/forum/vie ... hp?p=64081

#3)
Re: Drew R. Maras: "Open Your Eyes: To 2012" suspicious cop death.

Postby Michael K. » Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:26 pm
Some more information which informs us to take a skeptical view of the official story here:

http://m.redrocknews.com/News/two-murde ... edona.html

    In Maricopa County, Maras is reported to have exited a minivan, while detectives in Yavapai County sought a white pickup truck with a camper shell on the back, D'Evelyn said.

    "They do not match up. The vehicle information came from numerous phone calls indicating that a white or gray pickup truck was parked where the Subaru was parked in that little turnout on 89A. There were concerns from people driving by that they thought that vehicle might be connected to the homicides," D'Eveyln said...

  COMMENT:

        #1 Arthur Godfrey 2012-01-13 19:23
        What's very disturbing? For the first 2 hours of this case, YCSO detectives thought this was a double suicide! Despite mulitple (AR -15 type) bullet casings found on the scene! (hard to shoot yourself multiple times) when fatal



http://www.azfamily.com/video/yahoo-vid ... 58003.html

    The victims are a man and a woman, according to Sheriff's Spokesman Dwight DEvelyn (center). "Based on gunfire rounds found and other items, we believe that one or more suspects shot the victims from outside the vehicle," he said...

    D'Evelyn said several callers reported seeing a pickup truck in the immediate area prior to the homicides being discovered. It was described as a 1998 to 2002 Dodge or Chevy 1/2-ton truck with an older white camper shell and faded white paint. It had red ribbons hanging from the rear-view mirror. He said the occupants are likely armed and dangerous.

    D'Evelyn said this does not preclude other vehicles that might be involved in this incident. The sheriff's office asks everyone to continue to report suspect and suspect vehicle information if known.




http://verdenews.com/main.asp?SectionID ... leID=45599

    James Johnson, 63, from Jaffrey, N.H., and Carol Raynsford, 63, from Nelson, N.H., had been visiting the Winslow, Flagstaff and Sedona area and pulled into the scenic viewpoint seven miles south of Sedona Thursday night, according to D'Evelyn. Johnson was working on a computer and Raynsford was reading when they were shot and killed.

    D'Evelyn says the agency now believes they were actually shot and killed Thursday evening but not found until the following morning.

    The bodies of the New Hampshire couple were found at 11:30 a.m. Friday by members of an off-road vehicle club. They had used the viewpoint as a meeting place. Members thought it was suspicious that the motor was running on the red late model Subaru station wagon and went to check...


    The sheriff's spokesman says an older model pickup with a camper shell the Sheriff's office had sought based on a tip was located. The driver had stopped at the view point but was not involved in the killings...

        "Sheriff Mascher sincerely appreciates the large volume of calls received from members of the public who supplied leads to investigators following the discovery of the victim's bodies on the morning of Jan. 6, 2012. Investigators did locate the white truck originally broadcast as a possible suspect vehicle. The vehicle owner had been present in the area but was cleared of any involvement."



Well, there you have it. He was "cleared," instantly, however that happens when you are the prime suspect in a double-homicide. Perhaps he had a "clearance".

It doesn't describe how or on what evidence the prime suspect was "cleared", or how that it is more likely that Maras was the killer.

Furthermore, in a normal investigation the identity of the person "cleared" would be released publicly as part of the proof that the police indeed did their job.

Instead the prime suspect remains anonymous and is apparently able to say "yeah, I was actually there at the crime scene but I'm not involved, because I wasn't."

[Amanda]

Ben Swann-Full Disclosure: CO, WI, CT shootings.. Are These The Work of "Lone Wolf" Gunmen?

Ben Swann Full Disclosure looks at eyewittness accounts from the scenes of the colorado theater shooting, the wisconsin sikh temple shooting and the connecticut elementary school shooting that indicate more than one shooter may have been involved in all three shootings


Here's some more info on the shootings:

Sikh Temple Shooter Served in U.S. Army Psychological Operations Unit
<!-- m -->http://www.cryptogon.com/?p=30685<!-- m -->


Evidence of multiple shooters at Aurora Theater massacre covered up

<!-- m -->http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/30 ... overed-up/<!-- m -->

by Niall Bradley

In light of evidence that a cover-up is underway concerning the Sandy Hook school massacre, I'm reposting the following article by Michael Kelley of the Business Insider, first published on Tuesday 7th August 2012. Readers of my first two articles on the Sandy Hook massacre will recognize alarming similarities between the two events.
Notice at the end of Kelley's article that Holmes' court records were sealed. What I conclude from this is that the evidence collected by police directly contradicts the lone gunman narrative. This would mean that here too a cover-up has taken place, the logical reason for which is that it was done to protect the real perpetrators
(read full article "Police Audio Raises The Possibility There Were Multiple Shooters In The 'Dark Knight' Massacre" by Michael Kelley at the link above)



Also, I thought this was an interesting comment from one of Fetzer's recent articles (<!-- m -->http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/23 ... andy-hook/<!-- m -->):

When the "long gunman" cover story falls apart, then the national press, which William Colby told us was infiltrated by agents of the CIA–"The agency owns everyone of significance in the major media"–resorts to stories of Mind Control and use of drugs.

We have to see through the smoke and mirrors. These attacks typically involve three-man shooting teams, where, once the story is tainted with bogus MK/Ultra conspiracy disinformation, crucial data, like the assault rifle the Sandy Hook having been left in his car, swiftly disappears.

I was definitely guilty of the above when looking into the Batman/Aurora shooting--I totally fell for the DARPA/neuroscience/mind-control stuff and totally missed all the info about the multiple shooters.

[Amanda]

Okay, I'm not familiar w/twitter, so someone who is will have to verify this, but in the video below, the woman suggests that AP tweeted about the CT shooting at 7:30 am EST.

Why did the AP Tweet Sandy Hook at 7:25AM HAPPENED AT 8:30-40AM!!!

The woman making the video says that the tweets are all gone now, but she is able to show you them on the screen. So, I guess people will just have to judge for themselves.


In his last article (<!-- m -->http://memoryholeblog.com/2013/01/01/sa ... #more-1437<!-- m -->), Professor Tracey also made an interesting point about how AP really seemed on top of the story a bit faster than one would expect and within minutes was able to report the number of dead:

At 9:53AM, no more than ten minutes after the reported shooting ceased, the Associated Press likely jumped the gun by publishing a story, "Official with Knowledge of Connecticut School Shooting Says 27 Dead, Including 18 Children." AP and the Washington Post have since removed the story from their websites in lieu of subsequent reports that took their cue from a press conference scheduled for later that day.

[Michael K.]

RED HERRING ALERT !!!

WE MAY BE IN A MINEFIELD OF RED HERRINGS WHICH WERE PLACED THERE BY AN ELITE PSY-OPS TEAM INFILTRATING THE MEDIA AND DISSEMINATING "ANOMALIES" INTENDED TO BE DISCREDITED SOUNDLY AT A LATER TIME, LEAVING ALL WHO JUMPED TO CONCLUSIONS BASED UPON THEM EFFECFTIVELY HUNG OUT TO DRY, PERMANENTLY.

Sad as it is to say, some of the things being circulated by Jim Fetzer seem to stink.  Fetzer has be cited as appearing on "Laura Ingraham, Jerry Springer, Donny Deutch and several hosts on Air America, among others.  He has been interviewed on Hannity & Colmes (twice) and on The O'Reilly Factor ."  This kind of media is not to be taken seriously, IMO.

I also take exception to this statement, attributed to Fetzer:

"When the "long gunman" cover story falls apart, then the national press, which William Colby told us was infiltrated by agents of the CIA–"The agency owns everyone of significance in the major media"–resorts to stories of Mind Control and use of drugs."

"We have to see through the smoke and mirrors. These attacks typically involve three-man shooting teams, where, once the story is tainted with bogus MK/Ultra conspiracy disinformation, crucial data, like the assault rifle the Sandy Hook having been left in his car, swiftly disappears. "

First of all, the story about the AR having been found in the boot of the car has thus far eluded a conclusive solving.  Nobody out there has shown with any certainty what it was, so why is that the cornerstone of Fetzer's example?

Another thing, Fetzer presumes to warn people that MK/Ultra is "conspiracy disinformation", but fails to elaborate enough to know whether he is pooh-poohing the decent evidence we do have about the program.   If MK/Ultra is a provable factor in this one, I too would be surprised, but Mind Control is presumed to be way beyond where it was when they were doing MK/Ultra.  That's why it is so important to heed the warning above about the most dangerous game being played here.

JEFF PRAGER URGES PEOPLE TO TAKE STOCK OF COMMON SENSE.  However, he fails to systematically explain the existence of at least one person arrested that day, the man in the camo pants.  This is still a viable area for further scrutiny.  In fact, I would take Marlowe's list of major anomalies as the veritable one, and not the ones that Prager uses for examples, as he coherently argues that they are bunk.

Prager's major point withstands the test of reason:  any "anomaly" arising from the first two hours of the media coverage is strongly suspected of being a red herring, as they are both so numerous and hyped, yet many have fallen apart under scrutiny.

[youtube:24gw3u7b]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE_dOMDwtRo[/youtube]24gw3u7b]

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php? ... 2098720100

"Is Sandy Hook The PSYOP You Think It Is?" by Jeff Prager

A Sandy Hook Tale: How To Create A False Flag Without Getting Dirty

For arguments sake I have to assume the reader has seen the various videos and essays regarding Sandy Hook and that the reader is also aware of the almost 2 dozen alleged anomalies.

On the 14th of this month a young man, Adam Lanza, is alleged to have entered the Sandy Hook elementary school in Connecticut and committed what can only be described as a mass murder by shooting to death 26 people. Including his own death and the earlier murder of his mother the total toll becomes 27 human beings murdered in cold blood with one final suicide. There are allegedly numerous unexplained anomalies.

In an article titled "Did Mossad death squads slaughter American children at Sandy Hook?"[1] Dr. James Fetzer opens his essay with the first relative statement to his hypothesis and we read that Adam Lanza "was not known to have had any training in the use of handguns, much less assault rifles".

Shooting Ranges Don't Count

On the 16th a Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) spokesperson notes that Adam Lanza "and his mother both spent time at an area gun range." This contradicts Dr. Fetzers claim. [2] Lanzas mother was known to own a variety of guns and it's not a stretch of the imagination to believe she shot them and certainly no surprise that she would shoot them with her son at a local gun range. She was a responsible pro-2nd amendment gun owner from what we've heard so far.

Dr. Fetzer next says "and where the kind of accuracy in killing typified military experts, not that of young men of slight build who are most unlikely to have the marksmanship skills displayed in shooting 20 children and 6 adults."

4 Of 32

Is this true? We know already that ATF stated he had "spent time" at gun ranges with his mother presumably shooting guns which is what one does at gun ranges and he could obviously shoot a gun. Lanza also attended Western Connecticut State University at the age of 16 and maintained a 3.26 grade point average over the course of 4 semesters between 2008 and 2009 so I think it's safe to say that he resided in the upper realm of the learning curve. Whatever he decided he wanted to learn and learn well enough to complete and earn relatively high grades, he did. [2] Dr. Fetzer also fails to note that there are two survivors currently recuperating in the hospital and that two victims that died actually passed away at the hospital which means 4 of 32 victims survived. According to Dr. Fetzer Lanza killed everyone he shot at in the school.

As far as Lanza being slight, he is. Lanza was also a very intelligent and capable young man even if he was a little odd, and slight, and if a 9 year-old girl of very slight build can click off 19 shots in 7 seconds with an AR 22 conversion [3] with relatively good aim then I think Lanza could also have very easily done the deed.

Everyone Huddle

Shooting and killing 20 people in a relatively small room with a semi or fully automatic weapon; re-loadable, confined quarters, rapid fire, is simple. If all of the children panicked and ran to a corner as Lanza was entering the room fully armed and frightening to look at or if by the time he entered the room the teacher(s) had already huddled the children into a corner, which is very likely the case, they would have been sitting ducks. Confined to a horribly frightened mass of hysteria in the corner of what isn't an enormous room.

ALL of the teachers herded their children, their responsibilities, their charges into huddles, closets and corners as they're probably trained to do.

9 Year Olds Shoot Weapons

For those who might claim that the 9 year-old girl [3] is an anomaly Google and Youtube searches will put to rest the notion that small, slight people can't fire semi and fully automatic weapons with some range of coordination and accuracy. [4] [5] [6]

I've personally seen young people of all ages firing weapons of all types in the deserts in Phoenix. I frequented a popular public area where people went to drink a few beers and shoot at bottles, TVs and anything else we could think of for a number of years on many weekends. Anyone can shoot with fair accuracy in a small room with some minimal experience if they can point and squeeze the trigger.

Anyone can shoot almost any handgun, rifle or shotgun although some higher end rifles and shotguns pack a wallop that would indeed prevent younger and slight people from handling them yet those types of weapons weren't used at Sandy Hook. The weapons used by Lanza could have all been easily handled by people much slighter and even much younger than Lanza.

Lanza himself, a typical slender 20 year-old young man had more than enough physical strength and certainly more than enough determination to handle weapons effectively for the few minutes the Sandy Hook massacre might have lasted. Murdering a bunch of children huddled in a mass like sitting ducks (likely) or even spread out across a small classroom still as house mice under their desks they would have been easy pickings for a person with the worst aim and a semi or fully automatic weapon with a large supply of ammo and a couple of minutes to spare entering through the only exit to the room.

Next Dr. Fetzer states "Or the fact that two other suspects were also identified, at least one of whom was apprehended–and possibly both." Is this true?

Dr. Fetzer fails to acknowledge that at this point we don't know whether the person seen in the woods, the person discussed as having camo pants or the person seen by the child who states that person was handcuffed on the ground, represent 3 people, 2 people or one just one single person yet Dr. Fetzer claims two additional suspects were identified. Never mind that all three statements regarding the apprehension of suspects could refer to the same single individual or two or three separate people. In all likelihood the statements made refer to one person as I'll explain below yet Dr. Fetzer went with the middle figure, 2, deciding firmly against 3 and 1. Why? Maybe it represents 3 different people?

Next Dr. Fetzer writes "The circumstances are so blatant that I have been surprised by those who have been taken in. A friend who had read my piece wrote to tell me that he thought there were a lot of alternative explanations that made more sense than what I was suggesting. When I pointed out Adam probably only weighed around 120 lbs and would have had a hard time handling an assault rifle, he replied by observing that you can find photos of children handling assault rifles on the web, but where he discounts the difficulty in firing them with accuracy and in hitting many small and moving targets. That displays a high degree of competence and extensive training."

Who Took Whom?

I'm surprised that Dr. Fetzer allowed himself to be taken in. I didn't refer Dr. Fetzer to "photos" as Dr. Fetzer notes above but to the videos I linked herein which are just a small sample of the numerous similar videos on the internet and of course they all depict slight children of all ages much slighter and far younger than Lanza and they're all firing semi and fully automatic weapons.

I also addressed Fetzers "moving target" theory in thatwhen Lanza entered the classroom dressed like a ninja it's far more likely that the adult in that classroom had already been alarmed and frightened by the gunfire and herded all of the children into a huddle in the corner before Lanza entered and it's likely she had done so quickly and instinctively. I suspect we may come to find out that the teacher(s) were found shielding some of the children. I don't believe that by the time Lanza entered the first classroom he faced moving targets. I believe he faced the huddled masses.

From the New York Times on the 14th we get, "Witnesses and officials described a horrific scene as the gunman, with brutal efficiency, chose his victims in two classrooms while other students dove under desks and hid in closets." [7]

The children did what they were taught. They hid under desks and in closets. They weren't moving targets at all. They were stationary, frozen with fear, under desks, in corners, huddled with their teacher, the only adult they could count on. A mass of children huddled in a classroom or cowering but perfectly still under desks make for an easy target and certainly many of these horrified children clung to one another and the adults around them.

The disinformation is palpable.

Off Duty Officer Attempts To Save Day, Gets Arrested

In a previous article titled "Mossad 'death squads' slaughtered American children at Sandy Hook" by Dr. Fetzer [8] we have Mike Harris quoted to support his opinion that Sandy Hook was a staged event, a false flag event, as follows: "A three-man team entered the school, one was arrested in the school–cuffed and put on the lawn–two went out the back door, one was arrested, the third appears to have escaped. You can find this on helicopter videos." and "Those arrested are currently not in police custody; their names were never released. That is a telling sign that we are being sold a story that is based on fiction, not on fact. What else are the local police concealing?"

Here Dr. Fetzer once again ignores the most obvious conclusion; what if all three sightings were the same person? What if the person seen in the woods, the person seenby the adult described as having camo pants and the person seen handcuffed on the ground were all the same person?

If that person were an off-duty armed officer in street clothes living in Sandy Hook but working in another jurisdiction responding after listening to his police radio in his living room a block away he might have the right to remain anonymous after having been determined to be innocent which in the case of this mass shooting may have taken a while. I'm sure the first minutes were absolute chaos. The first hour certainly had its share of chaos.

Google Earth

Examining the school on Google Earth reveals a large park adjacent to the school and separated from the school by accessible woods. The park covers 30% or more of the schools perimeter along the extended entranceway to the school. The school is fenced at the park line. The park and woods also include a full sized regulation soccer field and basketball court, a baseball field, two half courts, several tennis courts, a pool, a large well appointed childrens playground, a clubhouse with a large gazebo and a large parking area. There's also a parks type building with offices and vehicle storage with almost 20 vehicles parked outside and several maintenance style vehicles. The school also abuts several private homes, one tucked well into the woods with a pool and several businesses surround it also. There is ample reason to believe that at least one or two people were within a reasonably short distance from the school that day and could even have ventured closer having heard shots fired. Being close to the school would have led to being detained and anyone eventually realized to be innocent would, I would think, have a right to keep their name from the media. The likelihood that an innocent civilian or even two were briefly detained that day is extraordinarily high after one examines Google Earth.

The Escape Route

There simply is none. Exit from the school is confined to Dickenson Drive which is the private drive or road that leads to the school and Crestwood Drive which dead ends behind the school and intersects with Route 34/Washington Avenue and was certain to be saturated with law enforcement. Dickenson would have been suicide. There really isn't a viable escape route for a team of 3 operatives and any other school, almost every other school in the country, would have been a better choice if a team of 3 people were planning this operation.

I Agree

Now I want to be absolutely clear that I don't disagree with Dr. Fetzers assertions regarding the ultimate motives of governing elites. I think he's right on the money when it comes to analyzing the final goals. When Dr. Fetzer refers to Zionism as being at the core of many ills I agree with him and when he refers to gun confiscation or control being part of the agenda I agree with Dr. Fetzer as well. It scares me just like I'm certain it scares Dr. Fetzer.

Yet let's not be foolish enough to jump to conclusions here. Didn't we learn about this from 911? What's the take away? Total control. They have that. They can massage the media and pervert the news.

As we'll soon see, there's no need to create a Sandy Hook when one can just wait for it to happen. It happens like clockwork. Taking over "news" during a mass shooting and perverting the dissemination of information just moments after it happens to turn it into the illusion of a false flag after the fact is a brilliant strategy, no?

Bozo Joins Special Ops And Gets Sloppy

I mentioned to someone who most of you know that there are two survivors, witnesses recovering in the hospital, and if it were an intelligence operation there would have been none. I also said that if this were an intelligence operation the Bushmaster would have been found by Lanza's side instead of in the trunk. His reply was that these people own Congress and the White House and they're getting sloppy. Yet that can't be true. The people he refers to as "owning Congress and the White House" wouldn't actually commit deeds like this themselves, ever. They would hire professionals. And professionals wouldn't have left the rifle in the trunk. Professionals wouldn't have left witnesses. Professionals don't "get sloppy". People that might have a mind to plan an event like this have more than enough money to hire professionals.

Undermining The Truth or Cassaganda™

Based on Cass Sunsteins analysis of conspiracy theorists in which Sunstein writes "the second challenge is to understand how such theories might be undermined" [9] and other significant theories expressed in that brief my analysis of current events regarding Sandy Hook differs from that of Dr. Fetzers. Sunstein works for Obama and we should pay attention to what he has to say.

If I were charged with undermining conspiracy theorists as we should and must assume many others have been I would develop a rapid response team just for starters. For unpredictable yet catastrophic events I would have a team of military analysts, military psychologists, military strategists and others immediately prepared to respond to these events when they happend. Except unlike first responders this teams agenda would be to take charge of the media response by injecting small bits and pieces of data to expose the "chatter" they wanted to monitor on the internet.

Like the Sandy Hook shooting and other similar events I would start my disinformation campaign within the first 10 or 15 minutes and preferably within an hour. We have computers capable of monitoring every police frequency in the country with algorithms designed to set off alarms for various sequenced events. As you already know there are agencies on standby capable of responding rapidly to these events. A team charged with "creating" the news could easily inject subtle nuanced pieces of data into a news cycle and cause a variety of responses.

Everyone that searches for and tries to investigate events that could or might be a conspiracy, like the several mass shootings we've already had, would immediately begin posting about them across the internet. That chatter can be recorded and it can also be mapped; Lines can be drawn between all of the positive contacts occurring on the internet during the event. Outright dissent can be monitored and recorded and there's plenty of dissent to record around Sandy Hook and similar shootings.

Injecting The Media

It would be much, much easier to rapidly inject media disinformation into an actual event with a rapid response team prepared for such things than it would be to actually stage a mass murder inside a local elementary school.

I believe the most lucrative and least threatening intelligence option would be to respond rapidly to mass shootings since they happen with relative frequency. A carefully developed program to impregnate the media within the first hour or so of every mass shooting in the US with small bits of disinformation, even the tiniest seeds of doubt, would fulfill the goal of continued fear and allow for whatever draconian measures were desired.

These would be often unverifiable but seemingly perfectly plausible bits and pieces of information that stir interest steeped with reasonable sounding conspiracy theory at first glance but that either fall apart or lead to even more unanswered questions after much further exhaustive investigation. By collecting, collating and mapping dissenters using disinformation, bad information, material that eventually proves false or forever unknown it would allow one to eventually ridicule the dissenters publicly after they've taken the initial false bait, or worse ...

Selective Misinformation

By listening to and watching all videos posted by Reuters, ABC and FOX, all seemingly reputable sources of both information and disinformation, between the dates December 14th and December 23rd and watching them in order in one sitting individually by station, one can see that the disinformation campaign is selective. [10]

I used an RSS feed for Reuters, ABC and Fox to watch videos between the 14th and the 23rd. I watched each media outlet separately.

The disinformation campaign becomes visible if it is a disinformation campaign. At least the points of injection of misinformation are exposed. For whatever final explanation there might be one sees nevertheless the point at which the misinformation or bad data was injected into the media system and was disseminated publicly.

Mapping Dissent

The principal calls the Bee and reports that there's been a shooting at the school. Yet if a clandestine operative, a member of a rapid response team made that call within the first hour of the event that would begin an avalanche of mis-reporting along with close scrutiny by interested people and then further dissemination of questionable data would create internet "chatter" so to speak. Actions across the internet, that chatter, visible and intimate actions by people across the country and the globe could be immediately tracked and recorded forever. That's what they're doing now, right? The data storage facility in Bluffdale, Utah speaks volumes doesn't it? [11]

Now, today, people are asking and stating, "where are the bodies?" and "what about the guns" or "the coffins were locked" and other questions that, like 911, may not have an answer just now. Some of the questions are obviously on the absurd side. I've seen no proof of nor mention of locked coffins in any media sources and somehow I don't imagine we'll see war images from the inside of a bloody classroom any time soon.

We might simply have to wait for some things to become clear. Certainly the many Reuters videos between the 14th and the 23rd linked below show numerous funerals at various funeral homes attended by many dozens of people. It seems to me that 20 children did get murdered and I say this because there are those that claim the children were all faked. I hardly think so.

Some Of The Kids Are Fake And If They Aren't, That Dad Is A Fake!

For those that claim one father is a fraud I ask why? What's the purpose of having one fake father? It serves no purpose at all. Or does this mean that all of the fathers are fake? If so, are all the various funerals and the 100s and 100s of guests all fake also? It's ridiculous. People making these claims have lost their minds.

Unlike 911 the Sandy Hook shooting was perpetrated by a capable young man and attended to immediately by a rapid response interdiction team whose goal was to inject unverifiable and questionable information into the event as it unfolded if there's any sort of conspiracy here at all. Sandy Hook thus could have become a pseudo false flag event. An event designed as a false flag after the fact; minutes after the fact, within the hour.

The False Flag Illusion

This makes it appear to be a false flag event and prepares those people attributing it to Zionism for the gas chamber or at least a long stint in federal prison when disparaging Zionism becomes illegal like it is in Germany. Short of Zionism becoming illegal here in the USA this exposes dissenting people and it causes people willing to believe slightly nuanced and enticing but wholly erroneous data too quickly to lose credibility with those who rely on them while opening themselves to ridicule or worse.

None of us can know for sure what happened at Sandy Hook just yet but based on the avalanche of evidence we do have now the likelihood that Adam Lanza perpetrated the event and that a team of operatives began injecting bits and pieces of deceptive data here and there during the first few minutes that the event became known seems like a far more plausible scenario for an established and professional intelligence agency than three men dumping Lanzas dead body in a classroom while shooting up the school and making their getaway through several layers of responding officers as some have proposed.

Two people survived. What will they tell us in the days ahead?

Cass Sunstein writes "Such (conspiracy) theories typically spread as a result of identifiable cognitive blunders, operating in conjunction with informational and reputational influences" and he's right, they do.

I'll stand behind 911 being a nuclear event because I have the evidence. Before I can be convinced that Sandy Hook was a false flag event someone is going to have to provide evidence I can't find a plausible explanation for. Innuendo and speculation doesn't count.

This Just In: Fri 12/28/2012 1:40AM

As I prepared to post this essay to Facebook some new information became available.

Enter The Latin Kings

To begin with I've received an email connecting the Sandy Hook massacre to the Latin Kings street gang. A little searching shows the leader of the Latin Kings was sentenced to 4 years in prison last April in a Connecticut court some distance from Sandy Hook and in a case unrelated to Sandy Hook. That doesn't seem like something he'd have 20 school children massacred for. He'll be out in no time. I think we'll leave the Latin Kings-Sandy Hook connection for the professionals.

In an article titled "Sandy Hook: Huge Hoax and Anti-Gun "Psy Op" (12) Dr. Fetzer continues the acceptance of poor data and continues to use poor science to evaluate his poor data.

He uses the Sandy Hook Bee's web page posting of a comment attributed to the Sandy Hook principle that was then removed from the web as his first supportive element. Dr. Fetzer doesn't bother to tell us how the comment appeared if this was an intelligence operation or most importantly why an intelligence operation would include this element that stands out like a sore thumb. Intelligence professionals don't make mistakes like this.

Internal Error - Reboot

If it was a mistake, why would professional operatives make such an error? If it wasn't an error what was the purpose? It was likely an over zealous reporter who phoned the school and ever so briefly spoke to a female in the heart of chaos and didn't know who he/she spoke to. An internal error. Up goes the story attributed to the principal only to be removed the next day. That story appeared soon after the chaos of that day began and in my opinion it's directly attributable to that same chaos.

Dr. Fetzer goes on to use the Bushmaster in the trunk hypothesis to again support his theories but this also fails miserably. Initial reports had 2 hand guns found, then it was 3 and then 4 so how many guns were found, what types they were and where they were located is still unknown. There's a report that a high powered rifle was found in a trunk and another report that a shot gun was found in a trunk. I don't think that the rifle found in the trunk proves this was an intelligence operation. The total number of weapons and their whereabouts are still unknown as are the number of vehicles searched, why they were searched and who owned them.

I Forgot The Rifle

If this were an intelligence operation by trained professionals why would they leave the Bushmaster in the trunk, as many as 4 hand guns with Adam Lanzas body and kill everyone with a rifle? What's the purpose? If they were trying to blame Lanza, set Lanza up as a patsy, why would they leave the Bushmaster in the trunk? What if the forensic data shows Lanza used a rifle that was found with his body that wasn't yet revealed in the short 11 day news cycle for this story. There's a mountain of evidence that will eventually be revealed and to shout conspiracy this early based on shoddy evidence that leaks like a sieve is poor journalism.

I'm not prepared to call Sandy Hook a false flag event on shabby information that has plausible explanations and that's the result of what was surely an hour or so of unparalleled chaos and unimaginable grief combined with sporadic and limited reporting.

The essay (12) goes into a lengthy explanation of guns and trunks making firm assertions based on incomplete evidence and provides the reader with erroneous conclusions that become fodder for wild and unsubstantiated conspiracy. They might be trying to take away assault weapons and severely restrict the ownership of guns but so far Sandy Hook fits the lone gunman scenario and my money's on Adam Lanza for now.

The Latin Kings might be a close second ...

References:

1. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/23 ... andy-hook/

2. ABC News, December 16th, The Blotter
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/connectic ... d=17992396

3. Nineteen shots in seven seconds begins at 2:40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OZAdJe5YwA

4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RZoO_EdgoY

5. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqGAZ62N3_o

6. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yECmG1Dn2M

7. New York Times, Region, December 14th, 2012
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/15/nyreg ... d=all&_r=0

8. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/23 ... andy-hook/

9. http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm? ... id=1084585

10. All Sandy Hook Reuters videos in reverse from the 23rd to the 14th:

Videos posted on the 23rd:

http://www.reuters.com/video/2012/12/23 ... t+Video%29

http://www.reuters.com/video/2012/12/23 ... t+Video%29

Videos posted on the 22nd

http://www.reuters.com/video/2012/12/22 ... t+Video%29

Videos posted on the 21st

http://www.reuters.com/video/2012/12/21 ... t+Video%29

Videos posted on the 20th

http://www.reuters.com/video/2012/12/20 ... t+Video%29

Videos posted on the 19th

http://www.reuters.com/video/2012/12/19 ... t+Video%29

Videos on the 18th

http://www.reuters.com/video/2012/12/18 ... t+Video%29

Videos posted on the 17th

http://www.reuters.com/video/2012/12/18 ... t+Video%29

http://www.reuters.com/video/2012/12/17 ... t+Video%29

http://www.reuters.com/video/2012/12/17 ... t+Video%29

http://www.reuters.com/video/2012/12/17/some-scho ols-reopen-as-funerals-begin-in?videoId=239935574&feedType=VideoRSS&feedName=LatestVideosUS&videoChannel=1&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FUSVideoLatest+%28Video+%2F+US+%2F+Latest+Video%29

http://www.reuters.com/video/2012/12/17 ... t+Video%29

Video posted on the 16th

http://www.reuters.com/video/2012/12/16 ... t+Video%29

http://www.reuters.com/video/2012/12/16 ... t+Video%29

http://www.reuters.com/video/2012/12/16 ... t+Video%29

Video posted on the 15th

http://www.reuters.com/video/2012/12/15 ... t+Video%29

http://www.reuters.com/video/2012/12/15 ... t+Video%29

http://www.reuters.com/video/2012/12/15 ... t+Video%29

Video posted on the 14th

http://www.reuters.com/video/2012/12/15 ... t+Video%29

http://www.reuters.com/video/2012/12/14 ... t+Video%29

http://www.reuters.com/video/2012/12/14 ... nel=117849

http://www.reuters.com/video/2012/12/14 ... r&utm_medi um=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FUSVideoLatest+%28Video+%2F+US+%2F+Latest+Video%29

http://www.reuters.com/video/2012/12/14 ... t+Video%29

http://www.reuters.com/video/2012/12/14 ... t+Video%29

http://www.reuters.com/video/2012/12/14 ... s%2FUSVide oLatest+%28Video+%2F+US+%2F+Latest+Video%29

http://www.reuters.com/video/2012/12/14 ... t+Video%29

http://www.reuters.com/video/2012/12/14 ... t+Video%29

11. http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/0 ... atacenter/

12. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/27 ... un-psy-op/

[Krag]

The Chris Rodia link appears to be very weak now and the points made that Lanza had on a very heavy military jacket has been dismissed by the official version, that it was a fishing jacket.  On the guy in camo clothes, I heard he was a parent of a kid who ran out of fear of the authorities or something like that.  You can expect an answer or several for every conspiracy theory, look what happened with the JFK conspiracy and how many confusing circumstances, mostly intentional were introduced.  There is a lot of money potentially flowing to those on the inside of this event, but if insiders start to squeal, they will be turned on.

There was this version of events that has been shown to be faulty:

http://wtvr.com/2012/12/14/timeline-of- ... -shooting/

There are many such versions that may show failures to prevent a coverup.

I was doing a search for gunshot damage exterior or interior at the school and have found nothing.  Surely with telescope lenses it should be possible to get such images, was no one taking pictures on that day of the exterior of the school?

[FrankDialogue]

RED HERRING ALERT !!!

Man, you take up a lot of space with the verbiage and links of this Prager...Have you have a reasoned opinion of your own?

Now, I don't mean to be hostile, but I notice all these links, and, unfortunately, we have all been clicking on links and following this story for two weeks now...Perhaps you can tackle the issue of the funerals: have you watched the videos of the funerals, and did they appear to be taking place in Newtown CT last week, or are there indications that generic footage is being used by the networks?

[Christopher Marlowe]

Michael K. wrote:RED HERRING ALERT !!!

WE MAY BE IN A MINEFIELD OF RED HERRINGS WHICH WERE PLACED THERE BY AN ELITE PSY-OPS TEAM INFILTRATING THE MEDIA AND DISSEMINATING "ANOMALIES" INTENDED TO BE DISCREDITED SOUNDLY AT A LATER TIME, LEAVING ALL WHO JUMPED TO CONCLUSIONS BASED UPON THEM EFFECFTIVELY HUNG OUT TO DRY, PERMANENTLY.

Yes. I agree with Prager's premise, and many points, but not his conclusion.

First of all, the story about the AR having been found in the boot of the car has thus far eluded a conclusive solving. Nobody out there has shown with any certainty what it was, so why is that the cornerstone of Fetzer's example?

That was the same thing that was passing through my mind as I was reading Fetzer's article. I don't know anything about guns, so I approached that video with much more caution.

Also, I linked to a video of a guy on youtube who did an excellent demonstration of what he thought were the two possible guns. That youtube guy said it was probably NOT the .223 "assault rifle" in that video.

Also, I have heard it repeated many times that the reporting ALL DAY BY OFFICIAL SOURCES was that the .223 was found in the car, and none was found at the scene.  But I never found links. This was a just that sort of information that is repeated until it is 'known'.  

But one point that Prager ignored was: WHY IS THE COP DESTROYING EVIDENCE AT THE CRIME SCENE? That is the loaded weapon in the perp's car. Hasn't that cop ever seen an episode of CSI? They are supposed to leave that sh*t alone, and then spray it with some fancy aerosol spray that glows purple, and then they put clear tape on it and feed it through a machine and measure the photons... or something like that.  Fingerprints, DNA, uhm... blood. Evidence. That cop is up there: "Do-Di-do!" <Pump, Eject, Pump, Eject> Bullets are flying everywhere. "What do you mean, 'Crime-Scene'? CSI? What's a CSI?"

JEFF PRAGER URGES PEOPLE TO TAKE STOCK OF COMMON SENSE. However, he fails to systematically explain the existence of at least one person arrested that day, the man in the camo pants. This is still a viable area for further scrutiny. In fact, I would take Marlowe's list of major anomalies as the veritable one, and not the ones that Prager uses for examples, as he coherently argues that they are bunk.

Yes, and this was also a point that was underlined by the Connecticut cop in the video on the last page: a guy gets arrested at one of the most horrific school shootings in history, and then he is let go?  No, no, no.  You are going to a holding cell until they are SURE that you have never done anything wrong. The Connecticut cops are closing off the crime scene INDEFINITELY, but they let 1 to 3 possible perps walk away? Those two facts do not compute. If the crime scene is so confusing, how can the cops be sure that those guys they found at the scene, at the time, wearing camouflage pants, had nothing to do with it?
 

Prager's major point withstands the test of reason: any "anomaly" arising from the first two hours of the media coverage is strongly suspected of being a red herring, as they are both so numerous and hyped, yet many have fallen apart under scrutiny.

The other obvious "anomaly", which seems like another deliberate plant, is that garbled audio from the Connecticut police, that JUST HAPPENED to mention Rodia's name at the same time they were mentioning the license number. Everybody took that and ran with it, and then started in with the "Rodia crime gang".... Connecting Lanza to Rodia....  Making a whole circle of people... But did anyone check that plate?  

If that plate is not Rodia's, this seems like deliberate disinfo.  

And then, anything relating to Dallas Goldbug is pure disinfo. All those videos started right away, trying to relate people on the video to famous actors. Goldbug's forte. One of the videos tried to say that one of the little girls was really the boy of 2 1/2 men.  That is over-the-top retarded.  

But Prager's analysis was very shallow...because he had to keep it under 9 minutes...  I agree with his premise, and many of his points, but not his conclusion. Too many things don't make sense. Like the police arriving in a couple of minutes. They find Lanza dead at the scene.  But that nurse is stuck in her closet with another lady FOR FOUR HOURS? http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/sa ... ories.html
And that same nurse told another reporter that she SAW Lanza, eye to eye, and that Lanza's mother was a kindergarten teacher? http://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/nat ... f7902434=1
Why does that nurse lie so much? Four hours in the closet?... She spent four hours thinking about all the lies she was going to tell. If that nurse wasn't lying, then the reporter lied. Somebody done lied.  

In addition to the total lack of any physical evidence or photos, what caused people to say such nonsense stories?  Like the "psychologist", who lives next door to the firehouse, who found four kids that had just narrowly escaped execution, and then invited them into his house to eat cookies and play with toys... But he didn't see all of the cars and commotion out in the street in front of his house?  Those kids ran out of the class... and into the school bus? And the bus driver man, who changed to a woman, drove the kids PAST THE FIREHOUSE WHERE ALL THE KIDS WERE BEING SENT, and let the kids off in front of the house next door ... so they could play with toys at the home of the STRANGEST MAN EVER.  

Maybe that psychologist and that nurse are red herrings. But their stories defy logic.  Maybe someday the MSM will release a video of Adam Lanza driving a rented tank through the security door, and then charging out with an several ammo belts... But no amount of video or explanations is going to explain why these people LIED about the facts of the shooting.

[Michael K.]

Man, you take up a lot of space with the verbiage and links of this Prager...Have you have a reasoned opinion of your own?

Now, I don't mean to be hostile, but I notice all these links, and, unfortunately, we have all been clicking on links and following this story for two weeks now...Perhaps you can tackle the issue of the funerals: have you watched the videos of the funerals, and did they appear to be taking place in Newtown CT last week, or are there indications that generic footage is being used by the networks?

Frank Dialogue:

No, it's too soon for me to have an opinion at this point about the forensic details, other than that there is such a lack of reliable witnesses and evidence as to make a cover-up seem apparent.  I would reason that everything is what it appears unless there is strong evidence otherwise, and this is why:  highly technical cheats are expensive and risky; staged funerals, actors playing parents, etc. all run the risk of easy discovery.  If the kike mindset is really to be understood, it is no more than to do simple cheats which are 100% deniable, and to do them at every opportunity.  Hence, destroying evidence by mishandling the crime scene and spiking the coverage with red herrings to discredit conspiracy theory is about a million times more likely than hiring a troupe of actors and expecting each and every one of them to remain a secret forever.

At the heart of it, I believe that Lanza was the victim of a high-profile pedophile ring, and that it is possible, although not necessary, that he had a backup shooter(s).  The discrepancies in the teachers' background checks I think point to the school being a bad place, not that any of them were involved per se (although maybe), but that the school is covering up a high turnover in the staff because that school was a hateful place to work.  There was at least some reason Lanza bore a grudge against his school, and that part is no conspiracy, but the essence of the whole story.

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http://neilallen76.wordpress.com/2012/1 ... -a-theory/

DETAILS & ONLINE PROOF OF THEORY:

The Lanzas moved to Newtown in 1998. See last paragraph at http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/for ... story.html

A known, convicted, serial pedophile priest named Fr John J Castaldo resided there from 1998 until 2001

Fr Castaldo's arrest for pedophilia by law enforcement in a sting operation http://www.bishop-accountability.org/ne ... aldo_4.htm

He got one week in jail. Search for Castaldo in the article at http://www.newstimes.com/news/article/A ... 306249.php

Castaldo was accused of attacking a boy under "extreme threat and intimidation", had been was expelled from his seminary for "remarkable bizarre behavior" http://www.ctpost.com/news/article/Dioc ... 823058.php

Article in the Harford Courant gives more details. He was an especially frightening pedophile. http://articles.courant.com/2010-03-04/ ... drug-abuse

One of many lawsuits against Castaldo http://www.wtnh.com/dpp/news/crime/ct-m ... NFfPW80V8E

More with pointers at http://www.bishopaccountability.org/ass ... John_J.htm

The Lanza's were Catholic, and went to Fr Castaldo's church http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/h ... FztFpWNEkN

Also, I might add, Jim Fetzer and Veterans Today fit the profile of CIA types, and the fact that they blame everything on the CIA should tell you according to reverse psychology what they really are.

[memory hole]

this guy has an interesting take on the Sandy hook pantomime

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[CrackSmokeRepublican]

This book's first chapter has some areas worth a careful look. It's has a story of John Graham who killed 44 people in Denver in 1955. There are similarities with the Lanza case in some ways. There might be more to this crime to uncover but I think the kid just lost it and sadly killed the kids and his mom.  Again I blame the Jew Media and Jewified American culture/values for contributing to Lanza's alienation.  Without the Jew Fed and Jew Wallstreet system-izing "capital" in society... this kid and the children would likely still be alive... IMHO.  I think the kid had some severe problems that came out violently.

In a lot of mass-killings like this the killer is often unexpectedly "cut-off" from the family either financially or emotionally.  

I know we are all pretty good researchers and want to get at the facts here, but just keep this one in mind. There are crazy people who do crazy things with very innocent and good people getting killed... but we can't let these tragic events allow for, or excuse, a programmatic "gun-grab".  

(edited out --CSR)  At the end of the day, I blame a selfish, "me-first", Jew "materialistic" culture for spawning this kind of madness.          

Mass Murder: The Scourge of the 21st Century (2004)

http://anonym.to/? http://books.google.com/books?id=nV5e5t ... A5&lpg=PA5

[Christopher Marlowe]

According to Michael K's articles above, if it is true that Lanza had suffered some kind of abuse then that could still be another straw for this kid to lose it.

ZERO proof of Lanza being abused. That sort of allegation doesn't even rise to the level of "red herring".  It's like thinking about going to the pier to fish for a red herring.

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[CrackSmokeRepublican]

According to Michael K's articles above, if it is true that Lanza had suffered some kind of abuse then that could still be another straw for this kid to lose it.

ZERO proof of Lanza being abused. That sort of allegation doesn't even rise to the level of "red herring".  It's like thinking about going to the pier to fish for a red herring.

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Very well then, let's strike it from the discourse.  It is not true if there are no documented facts behind it to support it.

[Krag]

Dr. Tracy has another update today on the timeline of Sandy Hook:  http://memoryholeblog.com/2013/01/06/sa ... -timeline/

[Michael K.]

Notice that the article in question about pederast John Castaldo describes itself as a "THEORY", although the proper word for it might be closer to "informed guess."  There is no attempt to counterfeit debate here.  What we have is some credible proof that Lanza, as a young boy, was in close personal proximity to a proven pederast for three years.  Considering the circumstances, I wouldn't call that nothing.  I wouldn't call it substantial proof that Lanza was molested, either.  It is not a "red herring" because it is not knowingly false, and being presented as true for the purpose of misleading people.  John Castaldo was a perverted priest, and he was Adam Lanza's priest.  Does anyone deny the credibility of the sources of record in this case?  The fact that Lanza eventually went nuts and also had a presence on 4chan only makes the circumstances of Lanza having been molested by someone more likely.  I'm sure we all know that people have been convicted for murder on circumstantial evidence.  It's not as though the Catholic Church is being put on trial here.

http://www.bishop-accountability.org/ne ... aldo_5.htm

Bridgeport Bishop Apologizes after Priest Arrested in Sex Sting

By John Christoffersen
Associated Press State & Local Wire
May 29, 2001

Bridgeport Bishop William E. Lori apologized to high school students Tuesday in response to the arrest last week of their spiritual director in an Internet sex sting.

Authorities in Westchester County, N.Y., said the Rev. John J. Castaldo, 42, engaged in sexually explicit online conversations during April and May. Castaldo said he was a gym teacher, gave out his phone number and described the explicit sexual activity he wanted to engage in to an undercover agent posing as a 14-year-old boy, authorities said.

He was charged with trying to send indecent material to a minor, which is punishable by up to four years in prison. Castaldo was arrested and arraigned Thursday and released without bail.

http://www.bishop-accountability.org/ne ... xAbuse.htm

Sex Abuse Lawsuit Says Bridgeport Diocese Knew Of Priest's 'Bizarre' Behavior

By Josh Kovner
Hartford Courant
March 4, 2010

http://www.courant.com/community/hartfo ... 6912.story

CONNECTICUT -- By the time the Rev. John Castaldo began molesting a boy named Brooks Thopsey at a Roman Catholic church in Trumbull roughly two decades ago, he had already exhibited behavior that should have kept him from the priesthood, according to a lawsuit filed Wednesday on Thopsey's behalf.

Despite his expulsion from a Long Island seminary for "remarkably bizarre behavior" and a psychological assessment that said he was "preoccupied with his own sexual urges," Castaldo was ordained by the Rev. Walter Curtis and given his first posting, St. Theresa Church in the Diocese of Bridgeport, in 1987, said one of Thopsey's attorneys, Joel Faxon of New Haven.

http://www.bishop-accountability.org/ne ... aldo_8.htm

Lawsuit Claims Priest Molested Altar Boy in Late 1980s

Associated Press State & Local Wire
May 1, 2002

A Catholic priest who served prison time last year for trying to entice an underage boy into sex via the Internet is now being accused of molesting an altar boy at a Trumbull church in the late 1980s.

In a lawsuit filed Tuesday in Bridgeport Superior Court, a 26-year-old man called "James Doe" accuses the Rev. John Castaldo of molesting him beginning when he was 12 years old in the sacristy of St. Theresa Church and during a trip with other altar boys to Florida, the Connecticut Post reported.

Bridgeport lawyer Christopher Goulden, who filed the lawsuit on behalf of the man, declined to comment.

Castaldo, 42, former chaplain at Stamford's Trinity Catholic High School, was sentenced last year in New York state to one weekend in jail and five years of probation for trying to entice an underage boy he contacted via the Internet to have sex.

The "boy" turned out to be a police officer who was part of an Internet sting operation.

Bridgeport Bishop William Lori later suspended Castaldo's authority to minister. Castaldo is undergoing psychiatric treatment at an undisclosed location, diocesan spokesman Joseph McAleer said.

Following Castaldo's conviction, Lori made a public apology for the priest's actions to students of Trinity Catholic and their parents.

McAleer declined to comment Tuesday on the lawsuit, the second filed by a former altar boy at St. Theresa Church alleging molestation by the priest.

The new lawsuit claims Castaldo forcibly kissed the boy on the mouth and molested him in the church sacristy between 1987 and 1991. The man also alleges that Castaldo forcibly kissed him on the mouth and molested during a trip to Florida in August 1989 with two other altar boys.

The lawsuit claims the plaintiff has suffered severe emotional distress, including depression and frequent nightmares.

The suit also contends the diocese failed to protect the plaintiff from molestation by Castaldo. It seeks unspecified damages.

Castaldo served as parochial vicar at the Trumbull church from 1987 to 1992. He also served at St. Mark's in Stratford from 1992 to 1994, St. Edward the Confessor in New Fairfield from 1994 to 1998 and St. Rose of Lima in Newtown until 1999.

He had previously taught religion at Trinity Catholic High School, then known as Stamford Catholic, from 1984 to 1986.

The Bridgeport diocese, like others around the country, has been criticized for its handling of sexual misconduct by priests. Many of the cases date to when New York Cardinal Edward Egan was Bridgeport bishop.

Seven priests have been removed or resigned in the Bridgeport Diocese as a result of sexual misconduct since Lori took over slightly over a year ago.

Last year the diocese agreed to pay about $15 million to 26 people who alleged they were abused by six priests.

[Christopher Marlowe]

Notice that the article in question about pederast John Castaldo describes itself as a "THEORY", although the proper word for it might be closer to "informed guess."

I think it would be more accurate to call it a completely fabricated FANTASY.

There is no attempt to counterfeit debate here. What we have is some credible proof that Lanza, as a young boy, was in close personal proximity to a proven pederast for three years.

The debate is counterfeit because the entire THEORY is based on something of which you have zero proof. You have some report the Lanza may have attended St Rose of Lima at some time, and that he was a student at the school AFTER Castaldo left. You have ZERO proof that Lanza ever met Castaldo, let alone having "close personal proximity". That sounds like a counterfeit debate.

--He who asserts must prove.
--He who passes off Fantasies as Theories with zero proof is a BS artist.
 

Considering the circumstances, I wouldn't call that nothing.

It's very little more than nothing. I could just as easily fabricate a story based on the proximity of any registered sex offender in Newton.

I wouldn't call it substantial proof that Lanza was molested, either. It is not a "red herring" because it is not knowingly false, and being presented as true for the purpose of misleading people. John Castaldo was a perverted priest, and he was Adam Lanza's priest.

--You haven't shown any proof that the Lanzas were attending St Rose at the time Castaldo was there.
--You haven't shown why Castaldo would have had an opportunity to be alone with Adam Lanza.
--During the time that Castaldo was at that parish, Lanza was younger than the normal age for a boy to be an alter server.
--What we do know about Castaldo was that he liked boys who were around 14, which was older than Adam was at the time that Castaldo was at that parish.

In other words, what we do know tends to contradict this completely fabricated fantasy.

This IS a "red herring" because it pretends to present evidence of something, but in reality is only fabricating a story. It distracts from the issue because it takes the story of an alleged school shooting and brings up the TOTALLY UNRELATED story of pederast priests. In other words, this story is attempting to confute two totally unrelated scandals.

Does anyone deny the credibility of the sources of record in this case?

I'm not sure what this sentence refers to. If you are referring to the MSM, I doubt many, if not most of the sources of record in this case.  

The fact that Lanza eventually went nuts and also had a presence on 4chan only makes the circumstances of Lanza having been molested by someone more likely.

This is really weak: People who go nuts and are on 4chan were probably molested?  

I'm sure we all know that people have been convicted for murder on circumstantial evidence. It's not as though the Catholic Church is being put on trial here.

That is exactly what is going on here. There is ZERO EVIDENCE, but a Catholic Priest and the Catholic Church are being implicated. I can only surmise that this is coming from an anti-Catholic bias.

[Michael K.]

Christopher Marlowe:

You're right, or more right, or I just plain hope you are right.  But I get a bad feeling that there is some greater pedo community in the area we are discussing, and that is what all of this alludes to.  To me it's not nothing nor, on the other hand is it established guilt for Castaldo at all; he is tangential.  It's just so weird, it's about the attempt to understand the motive ADAM LANZA had to enter a school and shoot it up all in just one area, just certain little kids, and almost all deader than dead, shot to hell.  I can't accept that its "random", as my kids call everything.  Unfortunately, New England has really got a lot of perverts and bullies, and there's a lot of old money, old poverty, mafia and socially introverted, insular thinkers, too.  The Catholic Church has got a problem on its hands in New England.  In fact the priest at the parish I attended as a kid was a pretty open-acting fag, which totally screwed up my mother's faith, by the way.  But he never got too near me, so whatever.  You and I both understand that the baptism I got was still Sacramental.

[Michael K.]

A PORTRAIT OF THE AUTIST AS A YOUNG MAN

(Referring to the book "A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man", about another fookin' perv., James Joyce)

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/h ... FztFpWNEkN

Some victims' funerals will be held at gunman's church

    By JULIA MARSH and DANA SAUCHELLI in Newtown, Conn., and PEDRO OLIVEIRA JR. in New York
    Last Updated: 10:40 AM, December 17, 2012
    Posted: 12:59 AM, December 17, 2012

The monster who massacred 20 first-graders in Connecticut belonged to the same Catholic church as eight of them — and it's where the children's funerals will be held this week.

Gunman Adam Lanza, 20, and his mother, Nancy Lanza, had been parishioners at St. Rose of Lima Roman Catholic Church in Newtown. Adam also had gone to the church's school as a child after his mother pulled him out of nearby Sandy Hook Elementary School, where he conducted his murderous rampage Friday.

Worshippers said they felt nauseous after realizing that the crazed gunman was a member of their community.

WHY DID NANCY LANZA REMOVE ADAM LANZA FROM SANDY HOOK ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND PLACE HIM IN ST. ROSE OF LIMA ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH'S ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN NEWTOWN?

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ada ... -1.1220752

Sandy Hook mass murderer Adam Lanza, 20, 'deeply disturbed kid'

Lanza, who friends and officials said suffered from Asperger's syndrome or a personality disorder, had a tortured mind.

By Matthew Lysiak , Denis Slattery AND Rich Schapiro / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Published: Friday, December 14, 2012, 9:55 PM
Updated: Saturday, December 15, 2012, 12:13 PM

He was dark and disturbed, a deeply troubled boy from a wealthy family who unnerved his neighbors and classmates.

Mass murderer Adam Lanza, 20, was a ticking time bomb, people who knew him told the Daily News.

"This was a deeply disturbed kid," a family insider told the Daily News. "He certainly had major issues. He was subject to outbursts from what I recall."

Lanza, who friends and officials said suffered from Asperger's syndrome or a personality disorder, had a tortured mind.

He was socially awkward and at times unstable, but also extraordinarily bright...

A "longtime" family friend said Lanza had a condition "where he couldn't feel pain."

"A few years ago when he was on the baseball team, everyone had to be careful that he didn't fall because he could get hurt and not feel it," said the friend. "Adam had a lot of mental problems."

Lanza's strange behavior was well-known among his well-heeled neighbors in leafy Newtown, Conn. His antics irked several residents.

"Adam Lanza has been a weird kid since we were 5 years old," a neighbor and former classmate named Tim Dalton wrote on Twitter.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news ... za-1492742

"Ticking timebomb": Gun maniac Adam Lanza rowed with four staff members at school where he massacred 26 victims
16 Dec 2012
By Keir Mudie

Friends of THE KILLER say that Adam had been on medication as a child to control his behaviour.

Olivia DeVivo, a classmate of Lanza's at elementary school, said he used to talk about aliens and "blowing things up" but she dismissed this as his childish imagination.

Olivia said: "I never saw him with anyone. I can't even think of one person associated with him.

Odd "I think he went so unnoticed that people didn't even stop to realise that maybe there's actually something else going on here, that maybe he needs to be talking or getting some kind of mental help." High school classmates described Lanza as a loner, with odd habits and a weird dress sense.

As he got older, Lanza grew into a pale, tall, scrawny child.

As a 15-year-old, he carried a briefcase to school and sat near the door in classes so he could slip in and out. He wore short-sleeved, button-down shirts with a row of pens in his top pocket.

And he walked with his hands glued to his sides.

Tim Arnon, 20, was a member of a school computer club with Lanza.

He said: "Adam was driven hard to succeed by his parents - especially his mother. She pushed him really hard to be smarter and work harder in school."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news ... ew-1492577

Connecticut school shooting "Perhaps he believed his mother was complicit in his demise": Psychiatrist's view of Adam Lanza

The fact that he killed his mother would make any expert wonder whether the 20 children represented what was "dead" inside him?

By Andy Rudd
16 Dec 2012



A troubled childhood and difficult family life may have driven Adam Lanza to kill, says a forensic psychiatrist.

Dr Keith Ablow said: "In every case I have ever treated in which empathy is in short supply or absent, it was eroded through suffering inflicted upon that person, usually early in life.

"Psychological trauma – whether chronic or acute – has been present in every violent person I have evaluated. We must imagine someone so devoid of empathy that he could shoot one child after another, ignoring the shock and terror on their faces. Such a person is severely mentally ill.

"The fact that he killed his mother would make any psychiatrist wonder whether the 20 children represented what was "dead" inside him.

"Perhaps he believed that his mother was complicit in his demise. He opened the door to a new kind of horror – the massacre of children.

"The likelihood he was destroyed just as early on is not 100% – but it is very high."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -page.html

'I am the devil': Former classmate reveals school gunman had 'online devil worshiping page' as childhood barber recounts how he never spoke and just stared at floors

 By Meghan Keneally and Rachel Quigley

PUBLISHED: 11:05 EST, 19 December 2012 | UPDATED: 11:51 EST, 19 December 2012

The Sandy Hook gunman worshiped the devil and had an online page dedicated to Satan, a former classmate revealed, as his childhood barber recalls Adam Lanza never spoke and would stare at the floor every time he had his hair cut.

Lanza's worshiping page had the word 'Devil' written in red, Gothic-style letters against a black background, Trevor L. Todd told The National Enquirer, something which he said was 'weird' and 'gave him the chills'...

Another working theory is that he was angry that his mother was planning to commit him to a psychiatric facility because he was becoming too difficult for her to handle alone...

Fox News quotes a neighborhood figure, whose father works as the pastor of an area church, as saying that the 20-year-old shooter found out that his mother was in the legal process of having him committed and was upset.

That news, coupled with his jealousy of the time she allegedly spent with a group of kindergarteners at Sandy Hook, is thought to have served as the basis of the killing.

One of the biggest questions remaining ever since the shooting was reported on Friday was Nancy's connection to the school which was clearly singled out as a target by Adam.

The majority of his shooting was limited to the reception, where he forced his way into the building and killed those standing in his way, and then to a single first grade classroom.

Those children are thought to be the ones that Nancy grew close with during the last academic year, when they were in kindergarten.

Initial reports immediately after the shooting claimed that Nancy was a full time or even substitute teacher at the elementary school, though as the chaos of the day slowed, school officials said that she was not on any records of having worked there in any formal capacity.

That option leaves the possibility open that she volunteered her time with the young children, though school board member Cody McCubbin could not confirm that role when asked by MailOnline.

That was echoed by Lillian Bittman, a former school board member who told the Wall Street Journal: 'No one has heard of her. Teachers don't know her.'

Though the court records will never back up the claim that Nancy was trying to have her son committed, her actions do lend credence to the idea because she had spent much time over the course of this year traveling to different schools to find a suitable place to send Adam.

Former babysitters of Adam's said that she warned that she could never turn her back on the young boy, meaning that when she went to visit prospective schools, Adam was either with her or very aware of the fact that she had gone shopping for his next home.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2012 ... t/1777525/

Classmate says Adam Lanza attended Sandy Hook school

Gary Stoller and Oren Dorell, USA TODAY8:09a.m. EST December 19, 2012

NEWTOWN, Conn. -- The gunman who killed 20 elementary school students in their classrooms had once attended the same school, according to a school administrator and a former classmate.

Superintendent Janet Robinson said Adam Lanza attended Sandy Hook elementary, although she could not remember the year.

"I know that he was a student at Sandy Hook at some point," she said.

Investigators have said nothing about a possible motive or why Lanza targeted the school.

Relatives have denied that Lanza attended the school. But at least one former classmate said that he apparently attended the school in fifth grade in fall 2002.

Lanza was home-schooled for some of his education, family members have said.

Fifth-grade classmate Dan Lynch, now a junior at the University of Connecticut, remembers Lanza at Sandy Hook Elementary.

"I was in class with him in fifth grade, and he was extremely introverted," Lynch says. "He was really skittish, always anxious and nervous."

Lynch says he remembers watching a sex-education movie, and Lanza saying he was about to throw up and needed to leave the room.

[Krag]

Hartford Courant was chosen by the police to release more details today that Lanza wore earplugs, as well as other details:  http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut ... 0630.story

[LordLindsey]

Lindsey

[LordLindsey]

This has been jokingly referred to as Gene Rosen's screen-test, and the absurdity of it all just exemplifies how much of a fantasy-land our world has become.

Fact becomes fiction, truth becomes lies, beauty becomes grotesque, good becomes evil, and on and on and on, it continues to go.

I swear-to-God that unless I had seen all that I had previously today, I WOULD NEVER have believed what on first mention seems absurd, but NOW...was any of what is claimed to have happened at Sandy Hook real!?  This is an honest-to-God legitimate question:  WAS ANYTHING THAT HAS BEEN REPORTED, INCLUDING THE "DEATHS," REAL AND ACCURATE?

Here is the comment from the poster: 

"Published on Dec 24, 2012


Video Source: Ghenghy

I have been very critical of this clown actor, and now we have what appears to be his practice session where he's just adlibbing all over the place trying to get his lines down. Watch this and tell me any of this is real.

BTW, note the helicopter in the background. If this video was made after the parents picked up their kids, or after he delivered them to the firehouse {its hard to keep up with his stories} then why are fucking helicopters still there after the school was secured?

Liars, all fucking liars.

BTW, the "psychologist" bullshit was exposed earlier today. Gene Rosen only has 2 years of college from North Texas State, that aint enough to become a "Board Certified Psychologist." I'll post the link when I find it.

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Lindsey