Sandy Hook Connecticut state police hold a news conference in Newtown

[sullivan]

He was a messed up autistic kid, was on SSRIs, and had a history of serious mental and personality issues. One day he decided to go on a spree killing and become famous. And all these media whores obliged. He's not the first and won't be the last to do this given that he's getting so much attention that's not letting up.

Like Frank Dialogue, I've worked with autistic people in an educational assessment setting and in my experience, one trait that is common to all from across the entire spectrum of autism is that they tend to be inward-focused and routine-driven. This just doesn't seem like the act of an autistic person. However, I'll admit that SSRIs can be a dangerous game-changer, particularly when it comes to withdrawal symptoms. That could have been a factor, but it still doesn't explain many things, such as how this kid got into a school with such a rigorous approach to security, particularly if the kid was wearing a flak jacket and carrying multiple weapons. That simply doesn't make sense, as do many other details of this tragedy.

[FrankDialogue]

And even if he was jеwish (which he's not), why does it matter? It doesn't.

Seriously, a jеw is not behind every killing that happens. Not everything's a conspiracy.  This is all typical Alex Jonestein bullshit paranoia thinking that's infected so many people. "Something bad happened, gov has planned this!" It's becoming ridiculous. Try to be rational, folks.

He was a messed up autistic kid, was on SSRIs, and had a history of serious mental and personality issues. One day he decided to go on a spree killing and become famous. And all these media whores obliged. He's not the first and won't be the last to do this given that he's getting so much attention that's not letting up.

No need to bring up his ethnic background (Italian, catholic) or repeat some bullshit about his supposed connection to LIBOR and other MK Ultra bullshit.

If you need to blame the jеws, blame the jеws in Congress and jеw governors who are using this tragedy to ask for gun ban laws! And blame the jеw media for glorifying these sick kids and encouraging them to do what this kid did.

Mike, these are intelligent comments, and the whole tragedy could have gone exactly the way it has been reported.

My concerns are primarily with whether the Ryan kid was the actual shooter, or whether there were others involved...The school supposedly had a top notch security system, but if it was just some guy in an office watching a video monitor, without any help, then it might have been pretty easy to break or shoot through a door.

Having spent some time in a number of New England towns in Maine, Vermont & New Hampshire, I can see an incident like this unfolding in isolation before anyone really has the time to react.

But, people need to ask questions because it seems as if all the witnesses are dead.

from Sullivan:

"I've worked with autistic people in an educational assessment setting and in my experience, one trait that is common to all from across the entire spectrum of autism is that they tend to be inward-focused and routine-driven. This just doesn't seem like the act of an autistic person. However, I'll admit that SSRIs can be a dangerous game-changer, particularly when it comes to withdrawal symptoms. That could have been a factor, but it still doesn't explain many things, such as how this kid got into a school with such a rigorous approach to security, particularly if the kid was wearing a flak jacket and carrying multiple weapons. That simply doesn't make sense, as do many other details of this tragedy."

Yes, I hear you.

[FrankDialogue]

Just watching a CBS video on the Lanza family called 'Putting the Pieces Together'...I would post it, except that CBS does not make it easy to post their videos; they keep them off of YouTube, and don't allow embedding.

In any case this video is carefully edited, with some interviews with Lanza family aquaintances: They interview a 'neighbor', talking about Nancy Lanza where the neighbor mentions that Mrs. Lanza 'was very kind and caring, but had some concerns about the future'...Well, don't we all?...Then the reporter says to the neighbor 'So she was a survivalist type?': Neighbor: 'Well, maybe I guess so..'...then CUT...They interview another neighbor about Mrs. Lanza's guns: N; 'Well, Nancy liked to target shoot...She took it up in the last few years...She enjoyed it'...Reporter: 'So she was a gun lover..'...CUT

Before this one there is a video of the infamous shill Charlie Rose: He describes Lanza as 'the killer from Connecticut'...Not alleged gunman, just the killer...Kid is dead, so is his mother, there will never be a trial.

No interviews with ANYONE from the school, like security personnel, who may have actually seen anything...There won't be, in any case, as 'no witnesses needed, case closed'....This is the most troubling part...IMHO, there will be no real inquest, because 'the towns people need to get on with their lives'.  :shh:

[FrankDialogue]

Apparently, what ever 'security' existed at this school didn't include anyone with a firearm to deal with armed intruders:

Larry Pratt, executive director of Gun Owners of America, responded to the tragedy Friday evening:

    Gun control supporters have the blood of little children on their hands. Federal and state laws combined to insure that no teacher, no administrator, no adult had a gun at the Newtown school where the children were murdered. This tragedy underscores the urgency of getting rid of gun bans in school zones. The only thing accomplished by gun-free zones is to insure that mass murderers can slay more before they are finally confronted by someone with a gun.

Common sense, no?

But why would anyone need armed security in a community of 'soccer moms' and their families?  :lolno:

[FrankDialogue]

'Eye witness' reports from inside the school: nobody saw any killing or shooter; they 'heard sounds'...Interestingly, it seems there was no security in the school, because 'why would you hear gunshots in Newtown CT?'...


Boston Public Radio

Sandy Hook Employees Open Up About What Happened Friday
By Nancy Cohen December 16, 2012


NEWTOWN, Conn. — The Connecticut State Police has released the names of the victims of Friday's shooting in an elementary school in Newtown. Twelve girls and eight boys lost their lives — all of them first graders. All six adult victims were women. But there were survivors.

Pam Midlik, an educational assistant, has worked at Sandy Hook Elementary for 14 years. On Friday morning, she was inside her first-grade classroom when she heard a loud noise that she didn't recognize.

"It didn't sound like gunshots because who would ever think there were gunshots in our town?" Midlik said.

Midlik said it sounded like a roll of aluminum unfolding. And she wondered if someone was working on the roof.

"So I decided to walk up the hall to actually find out what the noise was because it was continuous," Midlik said. "It would stop and then it would start. It would stop and start."

In the hallway she met a father of a student. He was there to help build gingerbread houses. Then an art teacher walked by and recognized the sound.

"She said, 'Oh my God, guns! I hear shooting.' And so at that point I looked at the dad and I said, 'Go back to the classroom and tell the teacher it's a lockdown, and close the door and keep the kids safe,' " Midlik recalled.

A lockdown is a drill the school children practice often, where they hide behind a locked door.

"I ran back to our classroom and I told our teacher the same thing and I closed the door and turned off the lights and we got all our kids into the cubby," Midlik said.

The cubby is an alcove inside the classroom. The children huddled on the floor together and first grade teacher Vicky Kazlauskas did her best to distract them from the sound of gunshots by reading to them.

"The intercom had gone on and we could hear the static, but also hear like noise and screams and things like that," Midlik said. "So she kept reading to them to try to keep them occupied so they wouldn't have to listen to anything."

When library clerk Mary Ann Jacob heard gunshots she ran to the classroom across the hall and told the teacher to lock the room. Then she secured her group of 18 fourth graders.

"We all got down on the floor and were quiet and then we discovered that the door wouldn't lock we had them crawl across the room to this closet area, bigger than a closet, like a storage room. We settled them down with paper and crayons and asked them to color," Jacob said.

Eventually the police banged on the doors of both classrooms. The adults didn't let the police in at first.

"They had someone call us and then they also put a badge under door," Jacob said. "So that's when we moved file cabinets and started letting the kids out to them."

Midlik and Kazlauskas also checked before letting the officers in. Then they both walked the children out.

"We had the kids lined up in between us. I was in the back and they held onto each other's shoulders and they closed their eyes as tight as they could, they got their way up the hallway and out as fast as they could," Midlik said.

Midlik also averted her eyes as she walked out. Those who were inside Sandy Hook Elementary School on Friday are still grappling with what they lived through. One reporter asked Mary Ann Jacob if her fourth graders are old enough to comprehend the tragedy.

"I can't comprehend the tragedy that happened. Can you?"

Correction: A previous version of this story mistakenly identified the 20 young victims as fourth graders. They were first graders.

http://www.wbur.org/2012/12/16/shooting-2

Qustion: Nobody in this school noticed a black masked, camoflaged man, holding an automatic rifle, break into the school?; Were they too busy building gingerbread houses?.............................................Frank D.

[MikeWB]

He was a messed up autistic kid, was on SSRIs, and had a history of serious mental and personality issues. One day he decided to go on a spree killing and become famous. And all these media whores obliged. He's not the first and won't be the last to do this given that he's getting so much attention that's not letting up.

Like Frank Dialogue, I've worked with autistic people in an educational assessment setting and in my experience, one trait that is common to all from across the entire spectrum of autism is that they tend to be inward-focused and routine-driven. This just doesn't seem like the act of an autistic person. However, I'll admit that SSRIs can be a dangerous game-changer, particularly when it comes to withdrawal symptoms. That could have been a factor, but it still doesn't explain many things, such as how this kid got into a school with such a rigorous approach to security, particularly if the kid was wearing a flak jacket and carrying multiple weapons. That simply doesn't make sense, as do many other details of this tragedy.

SSRIs have been linked to serial killing some time ago. For example, this article that came out few months ago summarizes it:

http://www.cchrflorida.org/blog/ssris-c ... murderers/

This SSRI clearly did not assist in neurotransmission but in mass murder.

Before SSRIs first appeared in 1988 with the creation of Prozac the number of mass murderers (those killing 4 or more people in one continuous event) were rare in the USA.

The 1980's and 1990's saw twenty such cases.

From 2000 to 2012 we've seen 26 cases of mass murderers here in this country.

As for inconsistencies, again, blame the media. They take shreds of information and make up stories around them because they want to be first to report something so they get hits on their websites or eyeballs on their channels.

I have a good friend who works for a local paper. He mentioned to me that instead of spending days on a story (validating all pieces of information, scheduling interviews etc), they now spend mere hours with minimum to no fact checking. There's simply no money to spend on investigative journalism anymore.

Again, people should exercise their brains and leave this Alex Jones bullshit paranoia behind. Most people here listened to that idiot and got their brain messed up by him and now everyone's doubting everything and people believe that NOTHING HAPPENS WITHOUT SOME CONSPIRACY. That's lunacy. Absolute bat-shit insanity. They don't have to create these incidents. All they have to do is encourage them by giving these killers airtime. That's all! Do that and all these messed up nutjobs will crawl out of their basements and will find a bit of courage to do these acts to be famous. That VT killer, that batman killer and now this guy are all infamous. Everyone knows them. That's what they wanted and media obliged.

For example: say you want to get rid of your car and commit insurance fraud. Do you have to hire some guy to steal it for you? Do you have to find a way to meet him and pay him off to do it? NO! All you have to do is to drive the car to a shady part of town and leave it unlocked overnight. That's all it takes. No conspiracy needed! Car will disappear and will be either cut for parts of totaled by some junkies. No need for conspiracy.

Mike, these are intelligent comments, and the whole tragedy could have gone exactly the way it has been reported.

My concerns are primarily with whether the Ryan kid was the actual shooter, or whether there were others involved...The school supposedly had a top notch security system, but if it was just some guy in an office watching a video monitor, without any help, then it might have been pretty easy to break or shoot through a door.

Having spent some time in a number of New England towns in Maine, Vermont & New Hampshire, I can see an incident like this unfolding in isolation before anyone really has the time to react.

But, people need to ask questions because it seems as if all the witnesses are dead.

Well, he did force his way in. Police have said that much. This is not prison-type security system we're talking about. Shooting out a lock is not hard at all. One shot and a kick is all it takes.

Inconsistencies are due to media working on twitter-time where every second counts for $$$. And starting rumors is now easier than ever and all it takes is a single anonymous tweet and media will report it as "facts". They couldn't even get the name of the killer right and got his brother's name somehow.

Guys, get out of this bullshit Alex Jonestien paranoid mode of thinking and see the big picture. Alex doesn't tell that part because his listeners are fucking morons just like him and they waste their time doubting pointless, irrelevant and stupid shit.

The big picture is how sick this society truly is and how all these large corporations are making money off these tragedies, how they're encouraging them and how they're using them to push for more anti-liberty legislations.

[ada]

So the society meaning we are all sick? Hmm are you sure?
You do not have to explain us platitudes.
We all are sinful and sick in one way or another.

And we do not know the whole truth in this case, as far as i see.
We are just researching and gathering information.
But aside the possibility of a sick and brainwashed society
there is also blackmailing,bribery,corruption,propaganda,social engineering,
veiling,depravity,creating of chaos and permanent revolution.
An that is deliberate!
The question is, are they hiding something in this case?
I do not see anything wrong with it to question the sensational hungry but also occupied media.

[MikeWB]

So the society meaning we are all sick? Hmm are you sure?
You do not have to explain us platitudes.
We all are sinful and sick in one way or another.

And we do not know the whole truth in this case, as far as i see.
We are just researching and gathering information.
But aside the possibility of a sick and brainwashed society
there is also blackmailing,bribery,corruption,propaganda,social engineering,
veiling,depravity,creating of chaos and permanent revolution.
An that is deliberate!
The question is, are they hiding something in this case?
I do not see anything wrong with it to question the sensational hungry but also occupied media.

Why are you immediately changing my words and are resorting to ALL OR NOTHING and BLACK OR WHITE thinking? Why are you thinking in absolutes?

A society in which a guy kills dozens of children and the media glorifies it is indeed sick and there's something wrong with it. No one is saying that everyone's sick. Again, no need to think in absolutes. World is full of shades of gray.

There's no need for these conspiracies surrounding this event. No need to resort to magical thinking and AJ style paranoia. "Ohh... some guy said something different from what media said so everything the media is saying is wrong and it's all a GIANT CONSPIRACY!."

Here's a good article explaining how the media works and why they got all these facts wrong: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/wor ... le6454337/

No need for "illuminati/globalists/jews did it with mind control" explanations.

Edit: REAL issues are:

1) The role of media (TV, movies, games) in glorifying violence and glorifying these killers and their failure to report truth due to time constraints

2) Role of medications (SSRIs) and big pharma's role in creating these killers

3) Lack of any real mental treatments for all these sick people (no insurance etc)

but you won't see this debated.

What you'll get is more talk about gun control and conspiracists will waste time on inaccuracies of various reports and other irrelevant details.

[ada]

No i do not change your words, but again you want to sell us platitudes we all know already.
And no, if you want to find truth you do have to think in black and white!
Why? It helps to find the truth!

Did i say something like the jews did it?
No i did not, you are just assuming here.
Did i say conspiracy. No i did not!
You seem to have a problem that people are question official media lies.
If you do not want it. Fine for you. But let the others do what they want.

[ada]

And here is something to ponder..

http://www.consciousbeingalliance.com/2 ... n-america/

[MikeWB]

No i do not change your words, but again you want to sell us platitudes we all know already.
And no, if you want to find truth you do have to think in black and white!
Why? It helps to find the truth!

Did i say something like the jews did it?
No i did not, you are just assuming here.
Did i say conspiracy. No i did not!
You seem to have a problem that people are question official media lies.
If you do not want it. Fine for you. But let the others do what they want.

I never even replied to you before YOU engaged me! I haven't even read your comments in full before the one you directed at me.

I see you're one of the paranoid ones who thinks that this is all just another conspiracy. Fine. Just don't expect me to waste my time debating you and all these pointless "facts" that are out there on twitter and which twitter/media reported or made up.

[FrankDialogue]

1) The role of media (TV, movies, games) in glorifying violence and glorifying these killers and their failure to report truth due to time constraints

2) Role of medications (SSRIs) and big pharma's role in creating these killers

3) Lack of any real mental treatments for all these sick people (no insurance etc)

but you won't see this debated.

Mike WB, you won't see these debated because there is nothing to debate about these points...All are absolutely true, and as for media, their paychecks are issued by corporations that have HUGE connections to pharmaceutical companies who are some of their major advertisers.

As to treatment, 90% of doctors are really employees of insurance companies, hedge funds etc indirectly, and the whole system of medical care is no longer founded on the Hippocratic Oath:

Excerpt: "Whatever houses I may visit, I will come for the benefit of the sick, remaining free of all intentional injustice, of all mischief and in particular of sexual relations with both female and male persons, be they free or slaves."

Now, as to the mass killings: It may have happened just as reported, with this young Lanza being the perp, but, if he suffered from a mental disorder as reported, WHERE IS HIS DOCTOR?...What medication was he taking; under protocols of doctor-patient privacy, well, now the patient is dead, and the dead man of accused of mass murder, it might be incumbent upon the doctor to provide the public with some kind of overview...And beyond this, doesn't anyone in the community know the doctor?...Is anyone asking him questions privately?...If the medication young Lanza was taking led to this act, then, as a warning, the doctor has a responsibility to alert the community.

Mike WB, this whole thing has set off alarm bells with me, as we have had absolutely no statements from any of the victims relatives...Maybe we will in time...But what I see is a community that has been told to give up, shut up, no questions allowed unless cleared by the authorities first (for their own good).

Until I see some proof, I have to presume Lanza innocent of murder...I haven't even seen circumstantial evidence yet, just hearsay...For instance: when did the police actually enter the building in relation to the crime?...I want to hear some real police testimony, because there will be no trial.

If they can lie to us and spent a trillion dollars and sacrifice a million lives in Iraq, then what does Sandy Hook School matter?

Unfortunately, this reminds me of Herod's 'slaughter of the innocents'.

On TV, they are now calling the dead Mrs. Lanza a 'crazy survivalist/doomsday type'...

Take a look at this video:

http://beforeitsnews.com/2012/2012/12/what-really-happened-at-sandy-hook-2441420.html

The state police cop in charge, Vance, states that unless information reported is coming from the microphone he is speaking into, the FEDs have told him that the reporting parties can be prosecuted.

[sirbadman]

the strong gun control push indicates this is another psy=op. Jesus, every tv report in Australia seems to focus on why US needs tougher gun control.

This massacre in Australia which resulted in tight gun control policies remains the textbook case they want to implement in US and other gun-liberated countries:
http://www.whale.to/b/viallspam.html

[Ognir]

Predictive Programming - Sandy Hook in Batman Dark Knight Movie
http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/7696 ... r-disaster

[ada]

No i do not change your words, but again you want to sell us platitudes we all know already.
And no, if you want to find truth you do have to think in black and white!
Why? It helps to find the truth!

Did i say something like the jews did it?
No i did not, you are just assuming here.
Did i say conspiracy. No i did not!
You seem to have a problem that people are question official media lies.
If you do not want it. Fine for you. But let the others do what they want.

I never even replied to you before YOU engaged me! I haven't even read your comments in full before the one you directed at me.

I see you're one of the paranoid ones who thinks that this is all just another conspiracy. Fine. Just don't expect me to waste my time debating you and all these pointless "facts" that are out there on twitter and which twitter/media reported or made up.

Now i am paranoid in your opinion..This is telling.
So you decide with your personal verdict about others who is a paranoid investigator and who is not?
This reminds me of something..

[ada]

...
http://www.vaticproject.blogspot.de/

[ada]

[FrankDialogue]

How about a little levity this morning: I think all of us are upset about the lies and misinformation that the media has given us about this tragedy.

I don't know if we have any music fans here, but here is a song by Ray Davies, formerly of the Kinks: Davies is one of the great songwriters of the past 50 years, and he wrote this song in New Orleans, where he lived for about 2 years before Hurricane Katrina hit...One day, Davies was having lunch with his girlfriend at an outdoor cafe when a thief came by, smacked his girlfriend and stole her purse...Davies got up and chased the guy and after about two blocks, caught his ass...The thief pulled out a gun and shot Davies in the leg, fracturing a bone...Luckily, Davies didn't catch a bullet someplace else...But here was a 50+ year old man who stood up to a criminal, unlike all the dreck in Sandy Hook school who 'practiced drills' and 'watched video monitors'...The song is 'Other People's Lives' (See the Reporter)...And the police never get there until the bodies are getting cold.

[youtube:qyi7n50d]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGAZRps-fq0[/youtube]qyi7n50d]



Diane Sawyer ABC: See the Reporter/Feed the Reporter

See the reporter fill the gutter with other people's lives: Nancy Lanza


Reporter say: "Nancy Lanza was obsessed with guns and preparing for the collapse of the world economy..."

Read more: http://www.bellenews.com/2012/12/16/wor ... z2FQ5l7rxX



http://www.bellenews.com/2012/12/16/world/us-news/nancy-lanza-was-a-survivalist-preparing-for-the-end-of-the-world-economy-by-stockpiling-food-and-guns/

[ada]

Connecticut shooting without a doubt a false flag
Jim Stone, 17 December 2012

Through the comments readers sent in, and a little work of my own, the Connecticut shooting has been sewn up in a body bag. It's been shot dead, worse than the Sikh temple shooting, Bengasi, or Aurora, please take the time to go through what is here, it is EXTREMELY important, it's all new, up until the headline THE END. I did not need to do a huge investigation of this to totally wipe it clean, as if God sent me a gift. The best stuff is toward the end, farther down the page but it's all good, including the stuff at the beginning.
I am not able to be online much right now, but these news tips came in through the contact form, and I am posting them, with comments.

"Jim, it's Paul from your forum. This school shooting has pro attack written all over it. The ratio of dead to wounded is way off. 27 or 28 killed and media is not reporting how many others injured. Infowars commenters say from 8-12, but I can't verify those numbers.

Presstv has a report up at the following link about 22kids being stabbed at a school in China. WTF, on the same day as the CT shooting with a similar number of casualties? I don't know the connection, but something is wrong here".

My response:

I have absolutely no doubt this was a professional hit by either the Mossad or some other agency. Wanna know why? Read the next comment!

"Punk had 2 9mm's.....ABC reported .223 shell casings at scene, but Bushmaster was in mom's car.

If true, there was more than one shooter."

My response:

You bet there was more than one shooter, and that is how the main "shooter", THE PATSY ended up dead. .223 is the standard U.S. military round, and the same goes for the IDF. IDF? How about It's Damn Fishy.

Here is another good one, from Paul
"That is NOT the work of a crazed 20yo spraying bullets around for a few minutes like the media depicts, that is a series of precision killshots that would take time. The kill/injured ratio is way off.

I also found out that the social media buzz got started minutes afterwards by a bunch of twitter people whose accounts were only days old. They started calling for gun control and abolishing the 2nd ammendment instantly through an initial network of newly set up accounts. Search for calloutjoe's wordpress blog to see examples of how this is done.

This is without a doubt a planned event."

My comment:

Paul came up with a clue, for anyone who does not realize this yet - Any time you get new twitter accounts rattling off for a gun ban, the entire thing is a setup. The reason why is because people tend to be proud of who they are on places like twitter, and they will keep their current accounts and blab and brag about how great they are because they hate guns. No one genuine would have shown up new on twitter with a new account over this.

I did not check yet, but I'd bet that every one of those kids also now has a facebook page in their honor, another key indicator of a government hit job.

And by the way, the prez made me puke when I saw the fakery, I have been sick for days now over it!

Take a look at this one!
"Im not sure if you know this, but the name of the school the 12/14 shooting happened in is Sandy Hook. When I saw the name I knew the shooting just had to be orchestrated. Seems too coincedental to me that a school with nearly the same name as a haarp'd up storm would have the worst mass shooting in American history."

My comment:

Really good connection here, just like a "holmes" shot up the theater, and the Sikh temple shooter lived on Holmes Avenue. The elite do play games like this, it's the same as the number games, 3/11, 4/11, 9/11. And this time, it was Sandy the hurricane, and a "Sandy Hook", Yep, they want us to take the bait, get "hooked" by their B.S. false flag, and give up the last thing we have providing a barrier between us and the fema camps, our guns. And if you think "they" are not capable of this kind of behavior, remember, "they" killed over 40 million in the Ukraine and millions elsewhere, most recently in Iraq. If they can drone strike a wedding, they can shoot up kindergarten just as easily.

And now, it's time to spring THE BIG ONE, AND HANG THEM.
First, I will start with this comment.

"I am searching but I can't find pictures from inside the school building... the actual scenes... This makes me think of the Aurora shooting. Of course I am an amateur and therefore this fact may not be important at all."

MY COMMENT, AND IT IS WHAT I PROMISED I HAD TO HANG THEM WITH

I was given the excuse that with the Aurora shooting and the Sikh temple shooting, that pictures were not released because they would interfere with court cases. BUT WITH A DEAD SHOOTER, THERE WILL BE NO COURT CASE. So tell me, ELITE SCAMMERS, FALSE FLAGGERS, DOG WAGGERS, WHERE ARE THE PICTURES?

You had no troubles airing the beheadings during the Iraq war, or the abu ghraib photos, and you have no troubles doing special effects of people being shot to pieces in PG-13 movies, so WHY NO PICTURES OF A SHOT UP SCHOOL, Think we can't handle it? Or is the problem that there really was no shooting at all, and therefore you have no photos to show for it? Is this really all a load of B.S.?

A dead shooter means you won't have a court case, where a girl will come forward with a story of the police shooting her and ordering her to say Holmes did it, to avoid getting arrested for something else. Could not have a blunder like THAT again, could you? Obviously you will not, with no court case! Takes a while to learn how to put the polish on a scam I guess. And THAT is what I waited to say. Too much time has passed now, they can't say the pictures are forthcoming.

Here is a nice slam dunk, sent in by K.J.

"I found different aerial pictures from different buildings but all stating it's the same school in Newtown Connecticut...

Here's one:

http://www.capitalbay.com/headline/2817 ... mpage.html

And here's another:

http://rt.com/usa/news/shooting-reporte ... -085/full/ (at bottom of page)

Finally there's this:

A former school board official in Newtown called into question earlier reports that Nancy Lanza had been connected to Sandy Hook Elementary School, possibly as part of the teaching staff.

"No one has heard of her," said Lillian Bittman, who served on the local school board until 2011. "Teachers don't know her."

http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2012/12 ... ol-gunman/

" My comment - Ha ha ha ha ha! That is exactly the type of thing I look for, it's as damning as Jessica Ghawi's tweets! Good job!

Whoah, TAKE A LOOK AT THIS, IT'S A BOMBSHELL.
I just found out in the Youtube comments that a map of the region which had the Sandy Hook elementary school was used in the bat man movie that was playing in Aurora during that other "shooting" so I googled it. This region, which contains the Sandy Hook elementary school was used as a map to represent a portion of the city of Gotham during a setup of one of the bad guy's dirty deeds in that movie. It's true.

You cannot find the accurate link to this in the Youtube comments, you have to google it. It is linked below.

This is the be all end all bombshell. TAKE A LOOK AT THIS LINK! THEY HAVE BEEN NAILED.
A reader with a popular radio program sent me this:

"I am troubled by some of these shootings -- how come we never hear about the lives of all the victims weeks after? Already I am hearing rumors of photos of the school shooting victims seen as actors, and that the father of the alleged shooter was scheduled to testify aginst the Cabal the way James Holmes' father was...if any of this is true, how the hell do they get away with it?"

My comment -

They don't get away with it. They get caught every time. But the problem is "they" own the media and our government, so they can lie to the public while skirting accountability from law enforcement. Our system has failed. It is not rounding up the real criminals. And when a system fails to that extent, the public has to take action independently and round these people up. That is what the word "revolution" really means, to revolve out of corruption by force. This won't change, there will be no accountability for these criminals until people force it. When the same people who are hurting you are the ones writing the laws, revolution is the only choice or you absolutely will be destroyed by them. And that is precisely why these criminals are pushing for a gun ban, to reduce the amount of force the law abiding people can exert. Wait too long, and they will succeed in destroying us.

http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/

[ada]

[Ognir]

And the Jewish angle in all of this


'You're going to have Christmas and Hanukkah': Heroic teacher's promise to her class that she saved from school massacre gunman - by hiding them in bathroom


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... hroom.html

the *so called*  killer must ALSO HAVE BEEN an anti-semite

[FrankDialogue]

And the Jewish angle in all of this


'You're going to have Christmas and Hanukkah': Heroic teacher's promise to her class that she saved from school massacre gunman - by hiding them in bathroom


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... hroom.html

the *so called*  killer must ALSO HAVE BEEN an anti-semite

Hang on, buddy; it gets better...So many spins, MY head is spinning...More 'Jewish':  :crazy:

From Press TV



Israeli death squads involved in Sandy Hook bloodbath: Intelligence analyst

Days later, the Sandy Hook Massacre, the iconic slaughter of twenty small children, is now looking like a terrorist attack, not a "murder suicide." Was "lone gunman" Adam Lanza a "patsy," the same word Lee Harvey Oswald used to describe himself before being "silenced" in November 1963?


Today, Michael Harris, former Republican candidate for governor of Arizona and GOP campaign finance chairman, in an internationally televised news broadcast, cited "Israeli revenge" in, what he called, "the terrorist attack in Connecticut."

Harris cited Israeli "rage" against the US and against President Barack Obama. By "Israel," we mean "Netanyahu."

The mission was to teach America a lesson, knowing that "America would take the punishment, keep "quiet," and let a 'fall guy' take the blame."

A "fall guy" is another word for "patsy."

Harris, citing the flood of inconsistencies in the "cover story," pointed out the following, "The facts are now becoming obvious. This is another case where Israel has chosen violence and terrorism where their bullying in Washington has failed. Israel believes the US "threw them under the bus," particularly after the recent Gaza war, allowing Israel to be humiliated in the United Nations. Their response was to stage a terror attack, targeting America in the most hideous and brutal way possible, in fact, an Israeli "signature attack," one that butchers children, one reminiscent of the attacks that killed so many children in Gaza?"

Washington is terrified of Israel, their powerful lobby and its relationship with organized crime. Now, a key former Senator, Chuck Hagel, who has helped expose this fact, is likely to be nominated as the secretary of defense, despite vocal protests from Israel.

Today, Israeli news gave further credence to Harris' analysis when they issued the following statements regarding the probable nomination of Hegel:

"Chuck Hagel's statements and actions regarding Israel have raised serious concerns for many Americans who care about Israel," said the Republican Jewish Coalition (RJC) Executive Director, Matt Brooks. "The Jewish community and every American who supports a strong US-Israel relationship have cause for alarm if the president taps Hagel for such an important post."

"The appointment of Chuck Hagel would be a slap in the face for every American who is concerned about the safety of Israel," he asserted

Citing a 2006 interview with Hegel, the news continued, "The political reality is...that the Jewish lobby intimidates a lot of people up here. I have always argued against some of the dumb things they do because I don't think it's in the interest of Israel. I just don't think it's smart for Israel."

Hagel also said he didn't think he had ever signed one of the letters the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) regularly circulates to demonstrate support for Israel or tough stands against parties such as Iran.

"I didn't sign the letter because it was a stupid letter...I'm not an Israeli senator, I'm a United States senator."

Read the rest, if you wish:

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/12/18/278706/israeli-squads-tied-to-newtown-carnage/

You see, I'm looking for hard evidence, like video of the supposed 'shooter' smashing or shooting through a door or window to enter the building, as there were supposedly cameras there; eye witnesses that saw Lanza; video or photos of body bags being brought out: nothing like this so far.

This all seems like a grade 'B' Hollywood movie...

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Here's FoxNews with their take:  

EXCLUSIVE: Fear of being committed may have caused Connecticut gunman to snap

By Jana Winter

Published December 18, 2012

FoxNews.com

NEWTOWN, Conn. –  The gunman who slaughtered 20 children and six adults at a Connecticut elementary school may have snapped because his mother was planning to commit him to a psychiatric facility, according to a lifelong resident of the area who was familiar with the killer's family and several of the victims' families.

Adam Lanza, 20, targeted Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown after killing his mother early Friday because he believed she loved the school "more than she loved him," said Joshua Flashman, 25, who grew up not far from where the shooting took place. Flashman, a U.S. Marine, is the son of a pastor at an area church where many of the victims' families worship.

"From what I've been told, Adam was aware of her petitioning the court for conservatorship and (her) plans to have him committed," Flashman told FoxNews.com. "Adam was apparently very upset about this. He thought she just wanted to send him away. From what I understand, he was really, really angry. I think this could have been it, what set him off."

A senior law enforcement official involved in the investigation confirmed that Lanza's anger at his mother over plans for "his future mental health treatment" is being looked at as a possible motive for the deadly shooting.

Flashman was told Nancy Lanza had begun filing paperwork to get conservatorship over her troubled son, but that could not be confirmed because a court official told FoxNews.com such records are sealed. The move would have been necessary for her to gain the legal right to commit an adult to a hospital or psychiatric facility against his will. A competency hearing had not yet been held.

Adam Lanza attended the Sandy Hook School as a boy, according to Flashman, who said Nancy Lanza had volunteered there for several years. Two law enforcement sources said they believed Nancy Lanza had been volunteering with kindergartners at the school. Most of Lanza's victims were first graders sources believe Nancy Lanza may have worked with last year.

Flashman said Nancy Lanza was also good friends with the school's principal and psychologist—both of whom were killed in the shooting rampage.

"Adam Lanza believed she cared more for the children than she did for him, and the reason he probably thought this [was the fact that] she was petitioning for conservatorship and wanted to have him committed," Flashman said. "I could understand how he might perceive that—that his mom loved him less than she loved the kids, loved the school. But she did love him. But he was a troubled kid and she probably just couldn't take care of him by herself anymore."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/18/fe ... n-to-snap/

[ada]

http://sherriequestioningall.blogspot.d ... ed-as.html

[FrankDialogue]

Here's FoxNews with their take:  

EXCLUSIVE: Fear of being committed may have caused Connecticut gunman to snap

Well, here's the procedure in Pennsylvania: Before any long term commitment comes a short term one, called '302ing' somebody...If a family member or someone living with the disturbed person feels that said person is a danger to himself or others, he can '302' the person, which involves the police van coming and taking the person to a MH hospital/facility for a period of 72-96 hours, where the person is evaluated...302 papers must also be filled out and detail circumstances...Usually 302 happens only when actual violence, destruction of property or meaningful threat of violence occurs...Paperwork for police and complainant.

Then, the person and the person requesting commitment go to a 'mental health court' which is usually just a conference room in a hospital, and a 'judge' weighs the documentation, let's both sides speak, and makes a decision....If person is deemed 'not a danger', person is released...If deemed a danger, person is committed  to a short term facility for further evaluation, which could last 2-4 weeks.

Long term commitment requires a judges order, but the action will take place in a real court room, and process is more involved.

And yes, complainant must have some sort of legal relationship or 'custody' over person for whom commitment is being considered.

A person who is already resident in a low security MH facility can be 302ed by a staff member if the administrator signs the papers...With a person living at home it is more complicated.

Flashman:

Flashman was told Nancy Lanza had begun filing paperwork to get conservatorship over her troubled son, but that could not be confirmed because a court official told FoxNews.com such records are sealed. The move would have been necessary for her to gain the legal right to commit an adult to a hospital or psychiatric facility against his will. A competency hearing had not yet been held.

Adam Lanza attended the Sandy Hook School as a boy, according to Flashman, who said Nancy Lanza had volunteered there for several years. Two law enforcement sources said they believed Nancy Lanza had been volunteering with kindergartners at the school. Most of Lanza's victims were first graders sources believe Nancy Lanza may have worked with last year.

Flashman said Nancy Lanza was also good friends with the school's principal and psychologist—both of whom were killed in the shooting rampage.

"Adam Lanza believed she cared more for the children than she did for him, and the reason he probably thought this [was the fact that] she was petitioning for conservatorship and wanted to have him committed," Flashman said. "I could understand how he might perceive that—that his mom loved him less than she loved the kids, loved the school. But she did love him. But he was a troubled kid and she probably just couldn't take care of him by herself anymore."

All hearsay, but may contain truth...Flashman throwing out assumptions here...Mrs. Lanza is apparently dead, so she can't talk.

[ada]

Listen to the video folks,this is incredible...
Worldwide awakening is finally not stoppable
Game over very soon for the jews?!°

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Mike Harris On Israeli Revenge- The Terrorist Attack In Connecticut School Shooting (2min vid)
Posted on December 19, 2012 by ron abbass

Mike Harris is a former Republican candidate for Governor of Arizona and also a GOP campaign finance chairman. Presently, he is financial editor and prominent analyst with the online news website "Veterans Today". In an interview with Press TV, he strongly believes that Israel was involved in the Newtown, Ct. massacre of children.

I've embedded a short 2min clip featuring Mike Harris and his take on that shooting and a link to the longer version, which includes the two other analysts who were also guests along with Mr. Harris.

It's been noted that a General within the USA military has stated that "Harris hit the nail on the head and it's about time someone spoke up".

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Link to 24 min Press TV vid   

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[maz]

Days later, the Sandy Hook Massacre, the iconic slaughter of twenty small children, is now looking like a terrorist attack, not a "murder suicide." Was "lone gunman" Adam Lanza a "patsy," the same word Lee Harvey Oswald used to describe himself before being "silenced" in November 1963?


Today, Michael Harris, former Republican candidate for governor of Arizona and GOP campaign finance chairman, in an internationally televised news broadcast, cited "Israeli revenge" in, what he called, "the terrorist attack in Connecticut."

Harris cited Israeli "rage" against the US and against President Barack Obama. By "Israel," we mean "Netanyahu."

The mission was to teach America a lesson, knowing that "America would take the punishment, keep "quiet," and let a 'fall guy' take the blame."

A "fall guy" is another word for "patsy."

Harris, citing the flood of inconsistencies in the "cover story," pointed out the following, "The facts are now becoming obvious. This is another case where Israel has chosen violence and terrorism where their bullying in Washington has failed. Israel believes the US "threw them under the bus," particularly after the recent Gaza war, allowing Israel to be humiliated in the United Nations. Their response was to stage a terror attack, targeting America in the most hideous and brutal way possible, in fact...

What facts are offered here?

...in fact there are absolutely no facts in that article to prove that Israel was involved in the shooting. Is it a Jewish operation? I have no doubt that it is considering who owns the media and the fact that nearly all major anti-gun legislation since 1968 is Jewish sponsored or spearheaded by Jews.

That by itself is all we need to be concerned about without getting into bullshit about Israeli death sqauds with no evidence.

Guys please, Mike Harris and Gordon Duff are the next Alex Jones disinfo clowns trying to steer the alternative movement into fucking UFO's and space beams. Stop listening them and giving them credibility.

Lest we forget now...

Response to Gordon Duff, Kevin Barrett, Mike Harris and Jeff Rense's Lies on '40% False Information'

[ada]

The no1 institution that is making things up is the jewish media and their
jewish fore-running fathers of mass manipulation and reeducation like
freud,bernays,lukacs,marcuse,horkheimer,habermas,fromm,reich,adorno aka wiesengrund!
They have installed their propaganda manifestos from day one.
Like edward bernays for instance in his same titled book propaganda.

Here is just how he opens up the first chapter.

CHAPTER I
ORGANIZING CHAOS
THE conscious and intelligent manipulation of the
organized habits and opinions of the masses is an
important element in democratic society. Those who
manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute
an invisible government which is the true ruling
power of our country.
We are governed, our minds are molded, our
tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men
we have never heard of. This is a logical result of
the way in which our democratic society is organized.
Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in
this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly
functioning society.

http://www.whale.to/b/bernays.pdf

[FrankDialogue]

Days later, the Sandy Hook Massacre, the iconic slaughter of twenty small children, is now looking like a terrorist attack, not a "murder suicide." Was "lone gunman" Adam Lanza a "patsy," the same word Lee Harvey Oswald used to describe himself before being "silenced" in November 1963?

Yo, Maz, one thing: I never made or posted the statement you quoted me as saying...Please, be careful with your text editor!

I have big questions about Gordon Duff, and I have commented such when I see a story on his site either written by a shill or plagarized...SOME of his information is good...But one must always be careful regarding the Internet, which is why I did post the Ray Davies song.

As far as Harris, I was very sceptical about his statements when I first read them on Press TV...However, after seeing him on the actual video, He appears to be a sober man and quite reasonable...Israel and it's snooch pooch, the United States, are the biggest murderers of children in the world...As an American, I feel shame, and as for Israel, the United States should have brought regime change to that entity years ago, AND, if there is any credible evidence that the US President knows as to the truth about Israeli death squads, then he should act immediately to dismantle that 'government' or he himself should be prosecuted and severely punished for treason.

In any case, we still have absolutely no hard evidence in the Connecticut 'event'.

[ada]

Washington is terrified of Israel, their powerful lobby and its relationship with organized crime.
Now, a key former Senator, Chuck Hagel, who has helped expose this fact, is likely to be nominated as the secretary of defense, despite vocal protests from Israel.
Today, Israeli news gave further credence to Harris' analysis when they issued the following statements regarding the probable nomination of Hagel:
"Chuck Hagel's statements and actions regarding Israel have raised serious concerns for many Americans who care about Israel," said the Republican Jewish Coalition (RJC) Executive Director, Matt Brooks. "The Jewish community and every American who supports a strong US-Israel relationship have cause for alarm if the president taps Hagel for such an important post."
"The appointment of Chuck Hagel would be a slap in the face for every American who is concerned about the safety of Israel," he asserted.
Citing a 2006 interview with Hagel, the news continued, "The political reality is...that the Jewish lobby intimidates a lot of people up here. I have always argued against some of the dumb things they do because I don't think it's in the interest of Israel. I just don't think it's smart for Israel."
Hagel also said he didn't think he had ever signed one of the letters the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) regularly circulates to demonstrate support for Israel or tough stands against parties such as Iran.
"I didn't sign the letter because it was a stupid letter...I'm not an Israeli senator, I'm a United States senator."
During his interview today, Mike Harris explained his rationale for looking to Israel as responsible for Sandy Hook, saying:
This is exactly what Israel did in Norway. The political party that voted sanctions against Israel was retaliated against by a "lone gunman" who killed 77 children.
This is what Israel always does, they go after the children.
It is what they do in Gaza every day. It is what was done in Norway. It is what happened at Sandy Hook.
Nobody buys the "lone gunman" story anymore. Not with the Gabby Giffords' shooting. Not with the Aurora "Batman" shooting. Certainly not with Breveik. And certainly not in Connecticut.
Eloquent words.
After Harris' broadcast, key members of the military and law enforcement community contacted Veterans Today in full support of Harris' analysis.
One three star general is quoted as saying, "Harris hit the nail right on the head and it is about time someone spoke up."
As days have passed, key issues involving the Sandy Hook terror attack have been cited as "debunking" the "lone gunman" cover story.

http://www.darkmoon.me/2012/israeli-dea ... e-analyst/